So they're lesbians, right?
>literally one of the first suggested google image results for "mako and ryuko"
tumblr's a coincidence
>I rewatched the whole anime and documented every single interaction between Mako and Ryuko that seemed noteworthy
You never used google image search to mine for images? You can just paste the url link into the image field when posting. Not everyone is so anal that they scrutinize what the host site of every image they post is.
At least pretend you read the thread
>your friends and loved ones will never watch KLK with you because they can't get past the sex comedy and cheesecake
even some of my anime buddies couldn't get past the first couple episodes, fuck
it's a great show... it's a shame most people only see the fanservice and don't understand it's there for jokes/it's part of the plot/it's part of the whole "everything is exaggerated" thing.
I don't see why everything needs to be shipped these days.
I mean, whatever happened to having a tender, meaningful, friendship?
Next thing you know, we're going to start assuming that Sam and Frodo were gay.
If they're not gay, Ryuuko and Mako still have the closest and most caring platonic relationship to ever exist. It's cute enough either way
Gamagoori's crush was completely ignored in the OVA though, even with all the other pandering and running gags brought back. That tells you that Trigger regretted it and wants to emphasize Ryumako more.
Honestly I have to admire this level of dedication. Also surprising to see this level of nitpicking from a yurifag, usually it's the fujoshi who seem more into going over every interaction to find gayness.
I gotta say I find it funny that a hundred female characters--some of them just about outright stated to be lesbians--jumping on a male MC's dick apparently makes perfect sense but a female MC's closest person jumping on her vag is just an unreasonable, totally out there conclusion even when they're literally asking the MC out on a date
>some of them just about outright stated to be lesbians--jumping on a male MC's dick apparently makes perfect sense
No one ever said that this wasn't a problem.
>even when they're literally asking the MC out on a date
Never heard of a girl date? Happens all the time.
That's not an excuse, you can always download the episode, take a shot of the image that you want instead of searching on google and downloading it from tumblr you fucking retard.
Go back to >>>/v/
I've seen it.
Even if the word used has a stronger connotation, Mako is absolutely ridiculous.
It's not beyond her to overact something to get a lesser point across.
>you can always take the time to download something and skip through to the point you want and take a screenshot
>even though that exact screenshot you want probably already exists
>and can be found in seconds
>because you must avoid images uploaded to that tainted domain
please be a troll
>Mako is absolutely ridiculous
This is your issue, every character in the show is ridiculous, it doesn't mean they didn't truly meant it, she would have used other word otherwise. This was already discussed multiple times.
Doubt it, and if so that ending wasn't very convincing.
The even bring Satsuki along. Though, I am entirely convinced that they wanted to keep the nature of Ryuko and Mako's relationship somewhat ambiguous for funsies.
>This entire thread
Ryuko loves Senketsu, and Mako has always supported them. Even taking the hallelujahs seriously, the ones immediately before and after the one in question she calls them a perfect couple. It's literally her driving motivation throughout the show.
For the actual date, even if Mako didn't use the phrase for a friends date, it's shown to be explicitly that with Satsuki coming along too and the Devas planning to join up as well, while Ryuko daydreams of the aforementioned Senketsu. Ryumako is a construct of tumblr burying their heads up their own asses.
You know, I have a question. Is it possible to have a thing for a samegender without being gay per se? You know, kinda like when there are people who are into /y/ stuff which is straightforward gay, and there those who appreciate traps who look feminine but actually have a dick somewhere, and there some people who have a thing for a good'ol female anus which is supposedly psychologically gay or whatever; and Ryuko/Mako is something among these lines but in reverse or something
Senketsu said Mako could calm her down, Mako said Senketsu was the person she loved the best.
They're not really comparable. And to add to what I said before, Mako endeared herself to Ryuko in the first place because she's the only person who always took them seriously.
You could try not categorizing your sexuality. It's the kind of thing that gets /a/ and other boards arguing about traps and futa and what-have-you.
You know what you're into(e.g. girl-on-girl), and you know what you're not into(e.g. dicks in your ass). Why label it?
Ryuko said she put Mako and Senketsu at the same level, but Mako is the actual person. Senketsu was always a father figure for Ryuko, meanwhile Mako always tried to get in her pants.
Mako might be a ryukosexual, but Ryuko is a clothingsexual through and through.
Ryuko never said she put them on the same level she just said they're both people that go beyond friends for her, and Mako never tried to be. Senketsu isn't a father figure either, that's something again pushed by Tumblr to justify Mako breaking them up in their mind.
Specifically, Ami Koshimizu said Ryuko thinks of Senketsu as her best friend, her family and her lover and that it's not the kind of relationship two humans could achieve.
>So they're lesbians, right?
They're just doing that "cute" thing girls do when they go and hang out and call it a "date" when they're just actually friends going out and hanging around.
If you were around women for more than 5 minutes in your life, you would have gotten this.
Ryuuko is probably into chicks, but only sees Mako as a friend.
>Senketsu is not above Mako
Yes he is.
Because they aren't humans.
>Mako never tried to be
She found Ryuko sexy and obviously wanted to fuck her here, something that senketsu never addresed.
It's pretty hilarious people are trying to apply logical reasons to an already prove illogical character. Mako is Mako,you'd have better luck making sense of people who eat peanut butter with their hot dogs.
She never tries to come between them. Whether Mako wants to jump her bones, or whether that's just the kind of clingy person she is (and the show leans on the latter), it's irrelevant Ryuko doesn't respond the same way, she responds platonically.
Or do you think just because Gama wants to jump Mako's bones her feelings are the same?
Why are you people still trying to find any logical meaning in a show that exagerates every little thing? I loved it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to rewatch it 10 times with the purpose of finding out if Mako wants the pussy.
You have to remember that the west construes basic friendship as gay
In the pic, Ryuko wasn't comparing them she was telling Nui that she wasn't alone. The conclusion Ryuko comes to throughout the show is that more than revenge, knowing what kind of person she is, or even having the life she never got, her firstmost wish is to wear Senketsu.
It's funny because when western director gets asks if it's gay he's like OF COURSE THAT WAS MY PLAN ALL ALONG, and when japan directer gets asks he's like "pfft no, there's only friends here"
Gamako was a fucking amazing pairing, but Trigger is basically tumblr so they picked le ebin yuri
I wonder how Gamagoori took the rejection
Of all the possible conclusions you can get from this you choose that? I mean, I can easily say her wish is have her date with Mako because that's the reason she gave to Ragyou, but I don't. In no part of the show Ryuko reached one single conclusion.
Closer than friends and family, everything points they have a romantic bond.
I am guilty of watching Korra (one of them not so bright decisions of my life) and this ending was NOT about friendship. They did not kiss, but overall it was the ultimate cheese romantic ending
That's her way, the thing she gave up hatred for was to be able to wear Senketsu, wearing him is the thing that defines her. Ryuko was willing to kill herself twice rather than not be able to wear him, and in the end she realizes she's always wearing him in her heart.
I'm going to marry Ryuko!
Mako is so absurdly strong because she doesn't give a shit, but not giving a shit is why she can never solo Ragyo or Nui
Absolutely no one has given something to contradict the end of the show, or the behaviour the characters had through it though. Meanwhile people post complicated explanations, you can just say what actually happened without having to say anything more.
Whenever someone asks Trigger about the deeper meaning in Kill la Kill about empowerment they basically went "Uh no? You're reading way too much into this", and they said it's not yuri, they said there's no romance.
No, Mako wants the Gamagoori dick.
YOU FAGGOTS ARE NOW IN A SATSUKI THREAD. BOW DOWN TO YOUR QUEEN
Yeah, three friends who are basically sisters go on a girls day out, a guy who likes sister C plans to ask her out by giving her his lunch, and sister A talks to the disembodied spirit of her boyfriend.
But then Senketsu is part of her. What you don't get is that her and Senketsu were supposed to be separated, that doesn't affect her bond with Mako at all, it's not Mako fault that she can't be "wear" like Senketsu, either way Ryuko has a bond as strong with her.
Thats because they won't directly say anything because it might hurt sales. Its easier just to say "nooo that's totally not it, they're just fucking as friends", and let the fans pretend its what they want.
The sister C rejects him because she never showed any interest in him through the whole show and then at the end of the day returns to their home alone with sister A to do alive things like the alive girlfriends they are.
But Ryuko and Senketsu can never be separated inside, and their bond is the absolute strongest force in the KLK universe. In the words of Simon and Ryuko, they are two as one.
It doesn't affect her friendship with Mako, but no one in the world can be to Ryuko what he is to her.
The difference is that you see their bond as "friendship", but it was clearly romantic, Senketsu can be part of the same entity as Ryuko, but Ryuko needs a bond with someone that isn't part of her too, and that bond is Mako
Yeah, but what I wrote is exactly what happened, and what you wrote is your headcannon of what happens right afterward.
If this >>123725514 is evidence that Mako and Ryuuko are canonically lesbians, then this is evidence that Mako is canonically a Ridley Scott alien.
>The difference is that you see their bond as "friendship", but it was clearly romantic,
The difference is you are making asspull logical hoop jumps to justify you yuri wank.
Look, no one is gonna mind if you go off and fap/schlick to these two over on fanfiction.net or tumblr or wherever.
But you perception of their relationship shows an alarming naivety and misunderstanding of regular female companionship.
Girls can love each other. But that doesn't mean they are dating.
Ryuko has made many bonds with people who aren't Senketsu, that's why she didn't kill herself in 24 like she was going to. But there's nothing to indicate any of those bonds are romantic, and there's everything to indicate none of those bonds are as strong as Senketsu's.
The smaller she gets, the bigger her eyebrows are.
Perhaps they are made of life fibers?
There's so much art of just this scene.
Well technically, he's her sister, her best friend and her lover all in one.
Mako was always included when Ryuko talked about having a bond in some way, she always included Senketsu too, but Mako not being part of her is the key. You can't have a romantic bond with a part of yourself. Ryuko never showed interest in anyone else, she left clear that her bond with Mako was stronger than the normal friendship she had with all the other people, by mentioning her separately, she even used that bond to win against Ragyo.
Why would I go to those cancerous places when this topic is for discuss it here, right now? Don't want to discuss? Go to other thread.
What part of Mako was gay through the whole show >>123725612 and she just cemented it at the end you don't understand? "Deito" is not the only evidence, it's just the final one.
You're the same shitter responding to every fucking sister post aren't you?
Threesomes are a thing
The problem really isn't that it's from tumblr, but that tumblr insists on using consistently low quality images.
I would rather spend the time downloading the episode to take a screenshot or not post the thread at all than make a shitty contribution to the board simply because isn't more convenient.
>The difference is you are making asspull logical hoop jumps to justify you yuri wank.
You realize you're doing the same, right? You're making all kinds of rationalizations to dismiss evidence, when the most obvious answer is that Trigger intended people to ship Ryuuko with Mako just like Senketsu and even Satsuki. They aren't stupid and they didn't do it by accident.
Eyebrows are life, Eyebrows are love
>You can't have a romantic bond with a part of yourself.
Why not? He's a part of her but he's also a completely seperate person, they go the full spectrum of two people in one body, not just literally but figuratively as well. And Ryuko thinks of him as his own person, and it's ultimately her choice.
And bonds are the name of the game all of Ryuko's bonds went into her to make Kisaragi. Not just her friendship with Mako, but her sistership with Satsuki gave her a reason to come back even after apparently losing her strongest bond of all. But of course the final episode is about how she didn't actually lose that bond, it's still stronger than ever.
Mako is goofy and slapsticky, that's her whole character, she will act serious because that would be out of character for her, so you have to take the way she acts as her character because there's absolutely nothing else coming from her. Her goofy and slapstick moments at the end always seriously solved the situation, so everything she does is what she truly meants, no matter how ridiculous it looks, that's her.
ONCE AGAIN UNDENIABLE PROOF OF LADY SATSUKI'S DOMINANCE! SHE TRANSCENDS BEAUTY IN BOTH THE 2D and 3D world!
>everything she does is what she truly meants
Actually false, everything she says is a pun it's not not necessarily what she truly means she's literally telling jokes. Sometimes the heroes extrapolate something useful out of it and sometimes she tells something like it is but it's not ironclad by any stretch of the word.
I thought this was the shitposting thread?
>you can't have a relationship with someone in your own body.
Says who? Who are you to tell some poor clothingsexual that she can't have feelings for her clothes if she wears them on the inside?
Either way that's her character, and you can't negate her just because you find it funny, that she wants to confess with puns? Leave her, that's her, that's something to expect from Mako because she's Mako, you know she truly wanted to do that specially if she remains in-character.
Eactly. More people need to understand that Mako's entire scenes are actual puns, they're not random or serious in any way. The words she's saying sound similiar to the things she's transforming to. If you see her being a duck shitting eggs in episode three, she just said a word similiar to it in Japanese.
They are tailor made for each other. Close-fitting and comfortable.
You know, I actually consider analyzing a story to this degree to actually be a good behavior. At least they give enough of a shit to try to use their brain in a hobby.
I just think they should choose a better anime to dedicate it to.
But what was represented in the show wasn't literal face value.
You are not understanding the cultural context of girls going out on "dates".
The misunderstanding is "yours", anon.
Yes, it was face value, there's a reason Ryuko is wearing a boy's uniform, she didn't meant the date as a the type of date that a girl goes with a girl, but the type of date a girl goes with a boy.
No she meant it as the type of date a girl goes with a girl (which exactly how it goes down) and she was being punny about it so joke was that it was the date of a girl and a boy.
Mako was projecting.
Her Ideal male "cool boy" dating partner would be someone "like" Ryuuko, and only Ryuuko is currently fitting the bill. She is projecting her ideals onto Ryuuko, seeing as no other man/person was showing much interest in her with the same level of "cool".
So until the right guy comes along, Mako will latch onto her "cool friend" as an emotional support.
Until the Gamagoori dickings, of course.
The puns and jokes are the way she talks, but she had no reason to use the visual representation of a boy and a girl if she meant a girl and a girl.
Ryuuko already came for her, there's no other person she showed interest at all in the whole show, and no reason for her to dump her for someone else, she's not just a "friend", what do you think her motivation for specifically choosing her (and no one else that was there) to go on a date before the final battle was?
I like how you guys are having intense discussion about her sexuality and I'm just wordlessly dumping pics of her with the most masculine man to ever man around the manhood.
>what do you think her motivation for specifically choosing her (and no one else that was there) to go on a date before the final battle was?
To let Ryuuko know she has friends and a support system that care about her a lot, and that she shouldn't kill herself.
>there's no other person she showed interest at all in the whole show,
Yeah, the man she showed the most interest in the whole show, who would've come with her on their friends date if he didn't have to raincheck on account of dying for love.
I also don't think it would have felt in character if she didn't meant a romantic date.
Ryuko used the date as her motivation to win, it was a completely selfish action from Mako and Mako only, she didn't meant it from all her friends, it was her portrayal of her own feelings to Ryuko.
I think the bigger question here anon is this;
Why do you "need" them to be lesbians, in your mind? It seems very important that this fits with your views.
You're over blowing it, Ryuko wanted to go home and have a normal life after Ragyo was beaten, she wanted to move on from all this. She wanted to have normal fun with Mako, but also with Satsuki and most of all with Senketsu.
You're just cherry picking scenes and twisting them for your own benefit without actually understanding a damn thing about any of these characters that aren't even that complicated.
Because that's what the show portrayed clearly? I don't like that people invent explanations and their own views to something that should be take as face value from the show, the show doesn't need interpretation, even after it ended people in twitter was congratulating Ryumako to win, because people on twitter has the simplest minds that don't interpret things, because this simple show don't need interpretations, you just need to take it as face value, don't make it complicated, the show said they're lesbos, so they just are, don't invent your own logic to it.
Believe me, I'm concerned about Mako's well-being in this scenario as much as anyone else, she's shrugged off worse I suppose.
Artificial Insemination is always an option...
The show didn't say they're lesbos, and it said a lot of things in the final episodes, the least of which was that hallelujah. It's not a complicated show, but you're just focusing on one fraction and ignoring the rest.
You're the one trying to say Mako didn't loved her trying to twist every scene about it, instead of taking them from what they are, the date was only the final scene about this, not the only one, you know?
>Because that's what the show portrayed clearly?
Only if you take things totally literal like a honest to real life person with Medically prescribed Autism, and lack the basic thought process for abstract thinking and understanding ideas from other cultures (in that case, why are you even watching Japanese Cartoons?)
>I don't like that people invent explanations and their own views to something that should be take as face value from the show,
This is exactly what "you" are doing, not us. We want to know "why"? Why is them being lesbians in your mind so important?
Are you a lesbian, anon? Did a Mako cosplayer leave you for a Gamagoori cosplayer, because they needed the hot dick you couldn't provide?
Because the rest wasn't about romantic relationships, the moment Mako choose to confess her feelings was that moment, so it makes sense I would focus in that moment, right? This discussion is not about everything the show said, just what the show said that's relevant to this topic, and only that scene is relevant to this
I'm not saying she didn't love her, I'm saying that her love may or may not be platonic (the large half-american gentleman certainly thought was), but the response to it was strictly platonic from a girl who loved a lot of people and the most of which was not her, it was her t-shirt. And the final scene of the girls date wasn't about Mako in any way.
>Because that's what the show portrayed clearly?
Only if you interpret it that way.
You don't have to asspull every interaction, they do play with the idea every now and again but it's more comedic than anything.
I fool around with guys all the time, doesn't mean I want to be more than friends with them.
I am gay as the day is beautiful... not entirely relevant, but just to set the record straight.
What's the need to abstract think or understand something from a different culture? Girls hanging out with girls happens in all cultures and Mako left clear she just didn't mean hanging out like that, not like the Japanese and western girls do, but more like a romantic date way, because she choose that representation and that word.
I'm taking it as face value
Don't mix Ryuuko discussions with Mako discussions. Ryuuko was always portrayed having a both with both, meanwhile Mako only with Ryuuko, there's no way Mako has just a platonic love for the person she insisted so much to get closer.
You don't need to interpret it, you just need to take exactly what it said and showed.