Which archetype is better?
I like Genki done right better than a tsundere done right though the latter is good in its own way. Mostly because I'm a dog person.
and though Genki done wrong is sort of annoying they aren't completely infuriating like a tsundere done wrong
so it's like
good Genki > good tsundere > bad genki > shit > bad tsundere
Genki all the way. Tsun is arguably the worst dere.
If you take the genki girl out, the show becomes boring.
If you take the tsundere out, the show becomes watchable.
When she's just an annoying spaz.
Did the janitors seriously believe the shitposter crying about ID harvesting?
Still better than Taiga.
Worst girl always wins.
Tsundere best dere and you'll never convince me otherwise
How could it not be? A lot of tsunderes are tsuntsun because they view the love interest as a rival too. There aren't that many co-ed sports, but a tomboy could be tsundere towards a sports rival?
>not liking Yandere
what the fuck, when i was 16 i thought every Yandere girl was an absolute goddess, but now they're going for their moe imouto trash from "comedy" shows like Oreimo and that shit.
I wonder if there are any anons that see these charts and "switch" to saying they liked something up top on the 25-30 bracket in order to appear more mature.
I'm willing to bet at least one did.
SnK is good because so many like it too, yes?
SnK is a shit manga shit because it's a mindless action shonen, therefore a lot of teenagers like it.
Tsundere is a shit archetype because it's entire point is slapstick comedy and Rumiko Takahashi's crusade of "let's get as far as possible from the submissive woman image men idealize, temperamental teenagers are much more enpowering".
Figured. Anyway I concluded that you're more level headed then I expected or wanted to give off the impression that you were at least.
If you meant >>123709725
yours as well :^)
Apparently not, if you believe a tsundere can be solely defined by a cold personality and no hostility, and the cool of a kuudere doesn't refer to her coldness. I bet you call Hitagi a tsundere and Yuki a dandere, despite Japan having always tag and refer to them otherwise.
Tsun-tsun in it's original definition implies indifference rather than hostility. That is the origin of the term tsundere. Cool is pretty damn self-explanatory, but if you want examples think Tear from ToA. Shit changes because of the dynamic nature I know, but the in the post I was replying to I was just correcting you on your mistaken impression that cold implies hostility.
The links >>123709571 had linked you would explain it to you, and even Minoru defined tsun as hostility years ago. Japan has defined cold characters, wether it's Rei, Yuki, Hitagi or Yukinoshita, as kuuderes in any site with a tagging system or as a term in context, like it or not.
"Hey, you guys wanna hear a funny joke?"
"Sure. Fire away."
"LESBIAN!" <Jazz hands and shit-eating grin>
"T-that's the err...the err-um...the punchline...She is a lesbian."
There's nothing wrong with using your own defintions for such open-ended terms, but you can't ask people to comply to them. Misinformation spread in western communities aside, one of the characteristics of a tsundere that hasn't changed since the first one is that the tsun refers to a hostile behaviour, same with kuudere and a cold (cool used as a synonim synonym here) behaviour.
>let's get as far as possible from the submissive woman image men idealize
Well, I might be weird, but the one thing I cannot stand in a women is her being submissive. That just makes me violently angry, not infatuated.
If she cannot stand with and above her peers, why even bother with her?
Genki tsundere tomboy.
But the tsun part is kind of there already with tomboy, since part of their appeal is their them getting and flustered and angry before they go deredere.
With an OP like this how can anyone still be saying Tsundere?
Put Kagami or someone up there and it might be fair, but Tomo just outclasses Biribiri by so much I'm not sure I could overcome my bias if I did have any doubt about this.
That's ok, that's an opinion. But submissiveness has often been seen by men as a very positive, yet unrealistic characteristic in women (especially outside of modern, culturally revolutioned USA), to the point of being a common trait of the utopic perfect woman in many cultures. It's a matter of subjectiveness, both of taste and social context.
Not at all. I would say the only rarer combination than a tsundere tomboy is a yandere tomboy (And thankfully so, a tsundere personality would ruin the entire character). And I say this as someone who consumes a shitload of tomboy eroge.