Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works

>>123627653
No

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Hell yeah!

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No, but I'm prepared to see Sakura wallow in despair. I mean, Shirou's already confessed to having feelings.

>>123631123
We won't see her or Taiga for the rest of the show,anon. Just pray that they don't go full retard and do the Good ending with pet Saber, That shit was full on stupid.

>>123630730
>>123627653
This will be painful.

>>123631178
What if they combined both endings?

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>>123631178
I know, but I still feel a little bad for her. And I actually was surprised that Shirou already blurted out that he has a crush on her. I thought they'd play it more like the VN where neither of them can spit it out, until they get to the scene with Lancer.

Also, at this point I really doubt we'll get Good End. But they might play with it and change things up.

>>123631441
Combine them how? The only change is instead of Rin and Shriou leaving Fuyuki it's Rin and Shirou leave Fuyuki with their pet servant. Sakura dies off screen to worm abuse either way. IIya dies no matter what as well. Isn't that the point of the game? One of the heroines is screwed over no matter what?

>>123631490
>I actually was surprised that Shirou already blurted out that he has a crush on her.

He did the same thing in the VN though.

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>>123627653
Are you ready for Ufotable to fuck up Archer vs Shirou?

>>123631707
>Rin and Shirou leave Fuyuki with their pet servant.

How is being able to have sexy threesomes wherever they are not the best end?

>>123631123

She'll be sad, but it was something she expected. She'll have her turn, so it's cool.

>>123631842
I thought the flirting in that scene was originally more subtle than it was in the show. Maybe it's just because I haven't read it in a while.

>>123631954
Why would I be ready for something that won't happen?

>threesomes
>pet Saber

Nasu said Seiba was their guardian and mother in UBW.

Anyone thinking she had feelings for Shirou outside Fate BTFO. She always acted like his babysitter.

>>123631954
>no internal monologue
>some shitty specially tailored music instead of Emiya
>ufobaby fans will defend it to the death
hahahahaha

>>123632051
Yeah, this is why they eliminated any hint Saber has heroine like scenes with Shirou. Any admiration came from her side while she was obviously not interested. It makes more sense because she's older than Taiga.

>>123631954
Why would they? Fights have been great so far, and it sounds like Berserker vs Gil won't disappoint. The symbolism in the fight will probably be portrayed well as well.

>>123631954
Been ready since they announced this adaptation.

>>123632051
>Nasu said Seiba was their guardian and mother in UBW.

Nasu says a lot of things, and we know Shirou nor Rin ever listen to anything Saber sayss. She's their fucking pet Even more in HA where she dicks around playing with kids, eating and sleeping while Lancer, Rider and Caster actually try to make something of themselves in the world.

>>123631123

C'mon Tsukumo, give her a break. The jealousy jokes are getting old. This is just depressing instead of funny.

>>123632084
>Nasu confirmed that he wants to show everything by animation only
I'm already disappoint... why is Nasu so involved in this?

>>123632186
She's dead now. She's gone to a better place.

>>123632184
Rin and Shirou are rebellious kids, but she's still their guardian.

HA makes everyone out of character in the 'eclipse' daydream Avenger has. Specially Saber who was diligent and worked harder than anyone as a king.

>>123630730
Nice spoilers

>>123632266
Saber is their fucktoy pet in UBW Good, deal with it.

>>123632003
He quite explicitly confessed in that scene in the VN too. But he was also saying all the lines that Archer told Rin at the park bench in the beginning of the episode.

For some reason they gave Archer half of Shirou's scenes and divided the lines between the beginning and the ending of the episode.
Which I guess might have been good for pacing purposes, I don't know. But it was different.

>>123632184
Are you seriously bringing up FHA as something actually in character? Fate/Zero cafe comic strip is more in character than FHA and the superior SOL with Servants and Masters. They are recognizable.

>>123632379
Pretty sure that she's only around to find out her answer and beat the shit out Shirou when she trains him.

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>>123631123
She'll bounce back, maybe.

>>123632440
Keep crying, Saberfag.

>>123632399
I don't recall anything particularly wrong with the characterization in hollow.

>>123632440
She still has the mind and body of a girl in her youth, she'll get around to succumbing to her carnal desires sooner or later.

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>>123632084
>>123631954
>some shitty specially tailored music instead of Emiya
h-have faith

>>123632586
Shirou, Retarded dense and dumber than he used to be
Rin, goes from nice to violent gorilla in less than 3 seconds
Sakura, jealous incarnate, actually scares and intimidates peoples, actually in a position of telling people what to do.
Rider, sex slut and book nerd. Total bully bait now.
IIya, drops all her adult personality traits for Kawaii imotou shit.

They fucked up big time.

>>123631123
At the very least her brother will survive, and even straighten out his act some.

>>123632758
>IIya, drops all her adult personality traits for Kawaii imotou shit.

But she becomes a caring oneesan in the end. ;_;

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>>123631954
>no flashbacks to Archer's past with the UBW chant
>no This Illusion Piano
>no EMIYA
>no monologues of Shirou fighting back at his future
Fuck.

>>123632758
>character development means they are out of character

The only two valid complaints are Shirou and Rin's generic tsundere shit. Sakura and Rider are different because their situation is vastly different than before. Your complaint about Illya makes no fucking sense since she acts mature multiple times, and most of the time when she is acting cute it's exactly like Fate route when she stayed at Shirou's place.

>>123627653

Who cares? Did you really need to make a thread to ask something so pointless? Can't you fucking fate fags contain your autism in one thread?

>>123632928
>Making someone act out of character is now character development
Just kill yourself.

>>123633049
>i have no argument so i'll shitpost instead
Good to know.

>>123632929
>stop liking things I don't like

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>>123632758
>Sakura, jealous incarnate, actually scares and intimidates peoples
But that is what she is.

>>123632758
>Rin goes from comatose to bitch in 3 seconds flat
As if Extra didn't warn you enough.

>>123630730
>Gil's face

Everytime.

>>123630730
Why is Gilgamesh such an ass?

>>123633168
Extra is non-canon.

>>123632800
King of Jobbers

>>123633401
Haha.

>>123633247
Maybe he has something against artificial humans due to Enkidu.

>>123632266

Except that Saber truly does act like a NEET, in every peaceful setting. And we learn in her backstory as king pretty much every else did the legislative stuff whike she did the fighting. Kay was in charge of finances for campaigns, for example. She isn't alone though, all the other kings are NEETs too.

And if Saber is the mother, what does that make Sakura, who ends up putting the house on a strict diet and teaching that "mother" how to cook and bake? I would say Nasu meant her to be a "guide" in the same way parents are.

To be honest, I think Ideal White is the catchier song.

>>123627653
I'm not even prepared to watch those sidemouths every single week

>>123633123

Sometimes. You get just as many examples of her being comforting and understanding. The thing about flanderizing characters is not that they don't have those traits, but one trait gets hilariously exaggerated to stupidity, making the character one dimensional.

the highjump is the best thing ever

The new OP and ED are the most generic things I have heard in a long time.

>>123634350
Go away Sakura, Rin and Luvia.

>>123634393
What anime have you been watching during that timeframe?

>>123634422
That was Issei.

>>123632928

Shirou does act kind of insensitive and gruff at times, and Rin does get really standoffs and overbearing because she is a competitive person, sometimes she takes it a bit far and is sort of a bully.

You are right that Sakura and Rider's circumstances changed, but Sakura had her smart-ass moments in FSN, and Rider did have a slightly more submissive side if embarrassed enough.

You just have look past skin deep misconceptions and there are multiple parts to them.

>>123634526
that was kirei

>>123634471
Cross Ange, FMA Brotherhood, Samurai Flamenco, WUG, Space Dandy and SnK.

I know there was more but his are the only ones I remember right now.

>>123634578
That was the track trio.

>>123631178
>Just pray that they don't go full retard and do the Good ending with pet Saber, That shit was full on stupid.
Nasu's pretty much killed UBW Good possibility already since he requested ufo "to not animate Saber's inner world." Kind of depressing that she won't have her conclusion though.

>>123632861
There were 2 monologues this very episode

>>123634561
They completly flanderized Rin, Shirou, Saber and Sakura.
And they invented completly new personalities for Caster and Rider

>>123634649
no that was kuzuki

>>123632861
They had sorrow at least, but it wasn't a particularly good remix, in my opinion. Fit the mood alright though.

>>123634746
No that was Raiga and ghost Kerry.

>>123632758
Smug Scary Sakura is best Sakura.

>>123634796
no that was that bartender

>>123632767

Oh goody. Now instead of a spoiled brat who is also a rapist with an inferiority complex, she gets to have a spoiled brat who whines about getting restaurant quality food, spills soy sauce on his little sister's new dresses on purpose, and whines about his allowance being reduced below "unlimited".

That rank E luck must have been a lie then.

>>123634831
>taking HA at face value

>>123634734
>And they invented completly new personalities for Rider

This is a good thing, though.

>>123634831
>who is also a rapist with an inferiority complex
Maybe an inferiority complex, but Shinji's not a rapist. Can't rape the willing.

>>123634734
Rin and Sakura are not that bad in hollow. They has a couple moments each, but it's hardly like it's every scene.
I honestly didn't notice anything different about Shirou other than the times Avenger took over a bit.
The Servants acting differently in peacetime is not surprising or unexpected. Rather than "completely new", it's just that they can let their hair down and relax.

>>123634824
No it was Gatou.

>>123633123
Yeah, I'm sure those weird marks I've never seen on her before means she totals normal right now.

>>123633123
What's wrong with your screenshot?

>>123634949
no no no it was the acht

>>123633123
Why do people post this scene as if it says anything about her real character?

>>123634898
>Rin and Sakura are not that bad in hollow.
The drunk scene
The Tohosoka stand off scene.

It's almost like they've known each other for years compared to how they normally act. The game even says each day is a battle in that house because in that timeline Shirou didn't pick a girl.

>>123634898
Rider straight up doesn't have a personality in F/SN.
And Rin hits Shirou multiple times in every scene not written by Nasu.

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>>123635113
Better?

>>123635090
no it was Kirishima.

>>123635218
Not really

>people think EMIYA won't be played during the Archer/Shirou fight even though parts of it's remix have already been heard in the OST already
>people are acting like it will be a totally silent fight
Jesus Christ guys have a little bit of hope. Don't you want to be upset about it on the Internet later and not just disappointed you were right?

I prefer Illya from Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya if only for the fact that we know she is a delightful bundle of fetishes pretending to be a normal elementary school girl. Fate/Stay Night Illya is just a psycho.

>>123635221
No it was the ghost of Nanaya Kiri.

God, I forgot how much HA made hate Rin.

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>>123635251

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>>123635245
How about this?

>>123635287
*made me

>>123635326
Not even sure what you're trying to say

>>123635251
>Don't you want to be upset about it on the Internet later and not just disappointed you were right?
Can I be upset about it on the internet all the time?

>>123635280
nononono it was liz

>>123633971
>And we learn in her backstory as king pretty much every else did the legislative stuff whike she did the fighting. Kay was in charge of finances for campaigns, for example.

That is actually pretty normal historically speaking. Feudal monarchs did not have huge amounts of power beyond the battlefield and law was largely a matter for the whole court. Absolute monarchs with the whole divine right of kings crap didn't hit Europe until much later.

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>>123635362
God damn you Sakurafags are hard to please.

>>123635326
That's not true at all

>>123635383
Actually it was Sella.

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>>123635278
>delightful bundle of fetishes pretending to be a normal elementary school girl.

Oh yes indeed.

>>123635116

Comparitively, they do, one has been stalking, and the other has been watching the stalker. For years.

Also, siblings. If they started making out, then it would be something unrealistic. The drunk scene is just that, them being drunk. The standoff scene was an admitted joke they wanted to play on everybody, they were fucking around.

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>>123635287
Having read KT before HA I already knew that the characterisation would be all over the place.
Take the good scenes and ignore the bad ones just like the fanservice it's meant to be.
Rin's Eclipse is the best Nasuverse H-scene

>>123635497
no it was ciel, i'm sure.

>>123635620
It's just as mediocre as all of the other H-scenes in HA

>>123635625
Nah it was Archer, watching in first person.

>>123635563

If only she could get oniichan in a maid outfit her life would be complete. Or her head would explode. One or the other.

>>123635310
Yahtzee generally doesn't go around to forums and imageboards bitching about how X game is going to be shit and you're retarded for liking it.

Even for spunkgargleweewee.

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>>123635620
>Rin's Eclipse is the best Nasuverse H-scene
That's not Flowers of Thanatos.
Mollusks > Jars of Menthol.

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>>123635620
I enjoyed both KT and HA, didn't notice much of a difference in characterization since the mood was much lighter.

>>123635444

Blame the Tohsaka accounting classes she and Rin got before kindergarten, they both knew what compound interest was before most kids stop believing in Santa.

Rin became a loan shark, Sakura balances her households budget.

>>123635620
Agree, it feels less like a sex scene and more like a love scene.

>>123635684
wait whut? are you impliying that shirou is archer?

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>>123635747
Why are the Tohsaka family such jews? Even Gil had to escape from Tokiomi because he was jewing all the wine.

>>123635778
>not knowing about the redman

>>123635444
How do the matous get income again?

>>123635846
Zouken has loads of cash stored away.

>>123635577
That's freaky, like, if they hadn't be seperated at kids they would of been known as the sisters who terrorize Fuyuki High with their weird pranks and sneaky ways of getting people indebted to them.

>>123635736
>didn't notice much of a difference in characterization
Sorry but you are incapable of reading.
I mean just look at Kohaku in KT

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>>123635904
Please reconsider for what they would be known

>>123635846

Zouken is a magical landlord. He has assets all over Japan. He also saves money because he is a specter who gets nourishment from souls.

Shinji spends it all on taking chick's to expensive Italian restaurants. Nasu pretty much says his groupies are really goldingging and will forget him by the time he gets to college.

Sakura just uses what she gets to split the food bill with Shirou.

>>123635972
Oh my god, they look like they're getting ready to bully somebody.

>>123636010
>He has assets all over Japan
Citation needed.
Wouldn't his assets be in Russia?

>>123635972
Poor Shirou is going to get raped

>>123635972
>>123636055
>>123636130
I want to be bullied and raped by the Tohsaka sisters.

>>123630730
That is fantastic, bravo.

>>123635921
I mean, the circumstances are all different, so everyone's more relaxed. For example, Kohaku, once she's out of her doll mindset, would be much more fun and prank-loving. It makes sense to me.

>>123635972
Guess Nasu was right in Sakura's bio:


>As everybody knows, she seems passive, but when she does do something she devotes herself to it completely. She's the girl in the story most suited to using seduction to get what she wants.

>A devilish woman with a strong maternal instinct, she'll pamper a man to the bitter end and ruin him with her charms.

>

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>>123635972
Not even the best bullies in F/sn

>>123636055

They are about to bully Shirou's dick.

>>123636262
So what did they talk about anyways?

>>123636262
I agree, but those aren't either.

>>123632201
N-no. Anon please tell me this isn't true.
I'm freaking out here

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>mfw Zero secondaries complain saying that the characters in stay night talk too much when Zero's last episode was all talk and had two fucking flashback episodes

>>123636423
What ere the Fate bully power rankings then?

>>123636534
Suck my cock.

>>123635444

I think that skit only proved Shinji is so annoying he'd make Belldandy take him to the woodshed, rather than Sakura being a doormat.

>>123636495
It's true, it's from the production booklets which came in the BDs.

>>123636616
>rather than Sakura being a doormat
That wasn't the point I was trying to make.

>>123636534
Why do you care? Just tell them to read the VN or something

>>123636682

You weren't? My apologies then.

Speaking of that scene, who complains about cutting corners by using cherry tomatoes in salad? Using whole tomatoes is just wasteful.

>>123636626
Well fuck everything then. the adaption has been passable so far but if they are going to fuck the best part then it's all for nothing. I'll watch this, get disapointed and reread the VN.

FUCK

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>>123636850
Another anon but here is the relevant Interview.
Keep in mind that the translation quality Aniplex standard

>>123636779
It's an issue about reading the VN of not, they're literally shitposting. They're all maymay masters spouting ANN-tier shit.

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>>123636971

>>123636850
Anime's a visual medium. The most basic, fundamental rule of visual mediums is "show, don't tell".

>>123631954
If I don't get EMIYA I'm gonna be pissed.

Kajiura already robbed us of that the first time during Kerry's fight in Bruce Wayne's room

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>>123636971
>>123637023
This interview just makes me trust ufotable and Nasu even less.

>>123637075
EMIYA was never Kiritsugu's theme you shit. Putting it in the sound drama was the mistake, not failing to put in in the anime.

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Wow they pulled the "I can totally demolish you right now but I'm not going to because reasons" card again

episode was actual garbage. screw this shit i wanna see servants doing servant things I don't wanna see cringe inducing tsundere shit

Followed by five pages of fellating SoL and declaring Shingeki no Kyoujin the best action anime of the decade. NeoGAF is fucking adorable.

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>>123637023
Nasu and Ufotable are just OTP.
Did a great job with KnK, they're doing great job with F/SN.

>>123637085
>ever trusting Nasu in the first place

>>123632504

The only parts of Sakura bouncing are her tits. Sorry, anon.

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>>123637164
I guess you're right. Mushrooms are untrustworthy!

>>123637031
While I agree with you, a director and staff working on a show has to have enough skill to properly convey information visually for that to work, and in the case of F/SN, an adaptation of what is basically a written medium, there is so much that needs to be included in that scene that there is almost no way to properly execute it without the use of monologue.

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>>123637085
Why are you trusting Nasu in the first place?

>>123637031
I'm just afraid that they're going to show it badly, since Nasu seems to believe so much in this "getting down to the bare bones" thing.

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>>123637239
B-because I trusted ufotable at least

>>123637219
Eh, good enough

>>123637031
I have had this conversation many times already. I still don't agree with that statement at all. There are things you simply can't show. They need to be told. Even if the medium your story was written in was more visual, you should still tell things if it is necessary.

That "fundamental rule" can go to hell for all I care.

>>123637031
It's very easy to turn something into self-fellating, pretentious bullshit if you follow that one too hard, though.

>>123637364

Exactly. Look at what happened to Anno and Oshii.

>>123637085
I'm glad to hear they aren't attempting a dry copy-paste job from the VN. He's right about the impact of events in first person text versus third person visual having different criteria, and six years of discussing the source material leaves me eager for some fresh reinterpretations.

>>123637161
>Archer cockblocking Rin
>all that tsundere
I don't remember being that pissed at Archer or as moved by Rin's admittedly mild breakdown when I read the VN. The directing and voice acting are fantastic, and now I'm more convinced that we're going to see plenty of Lancer teasing Rin to make up for DEEN's failure. Based Ufotable.

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>>123637505
I liked Old Nasu better. I'm not sure what New Nasu is doing with this.

>>123637364
what would've happened if shaft was in charge of the adaptantion?

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>>123637593
>Archer cockblocking Rin
Even the comedy anthology manga does it

>>123637075

That would be the director and/or producers fault, not the composer.

>>123637593
I'm glad to have a fresh interpretation too, but Miura thinking Shirou is just "stubborn" seems to me that he doesn't understand his character entirely, and Nasu speaking of attaching "new anime graft" on the skeleton of UBW seems like he's going more for flashy scenes rather than the meat of UBW.

In addition, I don't know why the question of Miura having read F/SN and F/HA was necessary, since that's something that should be naturally expected

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>>123637715

>>123637667
>Trace, on
Black screen with the word "Projection" in the middle

Six frames of Shirou flying backwards

Red screen with "Holy Grail War" in black while Archer talks for fifteen seconds

>>123637716
Yeah, you're right

>>123637593
Rin's VA really did a great job, could hear that she really cares for the red man.
The ending will hit hard.

>>123637756
>Shinji shot by Archer
I don't remember this.

>>123637724
Actually is quite rare for a director to read the original work.

>>123637593
>I don't remember being that pissed at Archer
Yeah they captured how much of an asshole he is.
I think the difference is that he betrayed Rin before the fight started in the VN.
>>123637724
>since that's something that should be naturally expected
It isn't.
For example Rider's VA never read the VN.
>Nasu speaking of attaching "new anime graft" on the skeleton of UBW seems like he's going more for flashy scenes rather than the meat of UBW.
The "meat" of UBW would be the "skelleton" though.
I mean do you have a problem with how the betrayal and Graveyard scene played out?

>>123637829
Great, how much longer before we can blame Miura for everything?

>>123637889

Why wait?

>>123637816
you are qualified to work at shaft
nice job anon

>>123637882
scratch that, is almost unheard

>>123637882
>>123637885
>is quite rare for a director to read the original work.
Wait, really? I didn't know that

>The "meat" of UBW would be the "skelleton" though.
I meant more of the concept and ideology. Even though Nasu wants to play it subtle, I'm afraid ufotable will take it too far, and people will lose track of the concepts entirely.

>>123638112
>I meant more of the concept and ideology
But that is the "skelleton" or core of UBW.

>>123636157
Then it won't be rape.

>>123636284
How exactly do you bully an inanimate object? There's no point in calling it names, and in this particular item hitting it would just make it harder. I don't understand.

>>123638184
And Nasu said that he wanted to portray them almost exclusively visually.

>>123627653
Nope, but i'm prepared to see her visiting the doctor.

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>>123635972
Who would get raped first, the Tohsaka sisters or Shiki?

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>>123637856

I always thought the best VA was Shirou's.

>>123638382
Ayako Kawasumi is still my favourite. Her voice is so elegant