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Nanatsu no Taizai 121 Spoilers

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WTF.
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Holy shit this can't be real.

No fucking way this shit can be an illusion too, Merlin's magic couldn't even reach him, no way Gowther can do any of it.
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>>123609082
noooooooope
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>implying any of the Sins will die this early without having resolved any of their sins
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>>123609082
Who's that in the lower left panel? Gil?
Seems like the Sins are going to train in the kingdom of dead, then come back with 30k+ powerlevels.
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The ride that keeps on riding.
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>>123609082
chance for liz to shine?
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>>123609082
Who is that on the bottom left?
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>>123609523
>>123609577
Merlin, maybe.
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>>123609577
>>123609523
That's Merlin.
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>>123609577
Pretty sure it's Merlin
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>>123609523
>>123609577
Stone Merlin? Not Meliodas, not Diane, not Elizabeth, not Threader, not Arthur, not Gowther, who else is left?
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>>123609082
Think there will be a season 2 of the anime?
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>>123609645
It also looks like Threader was protecting petrified Merlin. Maybe this is like a vision Merlin has of what happens if they fight him here, Gowther's still in doll-mode so can he do anything? Unless Merlin releases him.
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>>123609645
Gowther is freed in Lust mode near the end according to spoilers.
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well the sins got right fucked
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>>123609697
Source for spoilers and OP image? What is this Lust mode, I must see.
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>>123609788
Surely Elizabeth will just res everyone and disintegrate the demon guy.
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>>123609082
Please let it be an illusion and no revival bullshit that saves them!
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>>123609788
Probably chinkscans
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>>123609082
shitty asspull incoming after that

dropped.
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>>123609834
See you next week, anon.
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>>123609082
>WTF
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>>123609834

Ya know, regardless of whether or not an asspull happens after this, this was a very realistic scenario that many of us were thinking would happen. But for Nakaba to actually do it? Props to him.
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>>123609877
keep eating nakaba's shit
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>>123609948
Will do. Anything else to declare?
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>>123609944
yeah im kinda hoping it does happen and its not some bullshit illusion or the kings vision of the future
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>>123609082
>>123609535
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>>123609827
>no revival
>onee-sama
>pig
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>>123610031
Um, the MCs HAVE to survive or at least come to live again at some point, so what are you suggesting instead of an illusion?
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>>123610166
*come back to life again
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>>123610166
They train in capital of the dead, meanwhile ban and king collects the 7 sin balls to summon the ancient dragon who will revive his dead friends
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>>123610166
Or Nakaba could grow a pair and make Arthur the protagonist along with Elizabeth and King
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>>123610288
Nah
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>>123610288
Killing off enjoyable characters for good is the most autistic kind of edgy
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>>123609683
Possibly, although I don't know how they'll start off since they've left Liones with Gowther still active, so no Guila mindbreak.
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>>123610375
Samefag here.
If they haven´t fulfilled their role I mean
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>>123610288
hi, edgelord-kun
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>>123610275
And then Mel and co will meet with confirmed knight in Capital of the Dead. He then gets revived and proceed to become best girl.
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>people actually, unironically believe that it isn't a dream/illusion/whatever

Do us all i favour and stop posting.
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I haven't read this in like 80 chapters, is it worth catching up on?
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So the spoiler was right. Petrification power/all sins are dead
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>>123610482
yes
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>>123610476
Well, Nakaba really likes revivals, as shown in the last arc.

But I do hope you´re right anon.
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If the vision really is real i cant wait to see kings face after he learns of Dianes death ooooh boy
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>>123610557
Gowther, King, Ban and Escanor are alive anon
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>Implying Elizabeth won't gain to power to revive and heal anyone and any condition at will
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>>123610762
Well you know what I mean.
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>>123609645
Hawk is still left.
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>>123610798
That´d be literally the worst thing that could happen to this series right now
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>>123610878
hawk confirmed to be 8th deadly sin which is the sin of doing all the 7 sins.
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>>123611058
Sin of leftovers.
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Oh goodie now we'll have to wait a week to see what asspull saves them.

Either Gowther got Galan in a illusion or Elizabeth is gonna pull a Orihim, u'm not sure which would be worse.
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>>123611262
I'm fine if its a Gowther illusion
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>>123611262
It's about time Gowther gets shown in the limelight fighting off a strong threat by himself.

I mean, Gowther's Invasion does deal with the spirit. And since Galan's spirit level hasn't been shown, there's the way to evade battle with him.
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>>123611262
Gowther saving the day would actually make sense.
You´d only have to explain how he got out of his puppet-state (which isn´t hard with Merlin around) and how he was able to hit Galan with one of his arrows. (Which could work because Galan didn´t know of him, thus giving Gowther a big surprise-factor)
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>>123611262
>Either Gowther got Galan in a illusion
That would be reasonable
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>>123611356
>It's about time Gowther gets shown in the limelight fighting off a strong threat by himself.

He murked Dreyfus
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>>123611366
Merlin used magic cancel on Diane the last chapter, maybe she used it on Gowther too
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>>123611366
>how he was able to hit Galan with one of his arrows
It's not as if Galan can dodge all attacks. He got hit by Meliodas' initial attack, after all. He noticed Merlin's teleportation spell since it's purely magic, but Invasion is channeled through Herritt's arrows. While Herritt is probably magically formed, it's magic usage is probably at the same level as Lost Vayne's clone creation, which Galan didn't notice.
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>>123611366
It would be an asspull for him to actually hit Galan with an arrow. He was so slow that Hendricksen could decapitate him before he could land the arrow, and Galan has both very high awareness (like how he spotted the real Mel and dodged Merlin's spell) and is ridiculously fast. The only time Gowther was able to use the arrow was by getting himself impaled upon Dreyfus sword.
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If you see a walking sun that means escanor is there to safe the day
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>>123611428
Yeah, that would make the illusion even more reasonable
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>>123611439
>The only time Gowther was able to use the arrow was by getting himself impaled upon Dreyfus sword.

Wrong, Dreyfus was already hit by the arrow.
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>>123611356
Dude has 26000 in Strength and Spirit only, his Spirit is high. Gowther will use his magics without limiters
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>>123611439
Galan is also too prideful
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>>123611439
Hendricksen aimed for Gowther since he's one of the Sins and prioritized him as a threat to take down because of his power that targets the spirit. Dreyfus knew that too and considered him a high threat among the Sins.

>>123611460
Yeah, he was hit by the arrow when he was about to kill Guila. It made him mess up with his aim.
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>>123611439
>The only time Gowther was able to use the arrow was by getting himself impaled upon Dreyfus sword.
Dreyfus knew what Gowther was up to, that´s why Dreyfus was able to get a hit in on Gowther.
But Galan is totally unaware of his presence in this battle, making Gowther the best man to deal with this dire situation
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Why are you all under the impression that they harmed Gowther? He does not care about being pierced by a sword or getting his head cut. Gowther is a fucking doll, for christ sake.
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Oh snap, the symbol at the center of this spread is on Galan's chest. Symbol of the Demon Clan?
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>>123611675
Also, tentacleloli is wearing NOTHING. Or at least, isn't wearing anything over her body.

These realizations I'm having are blowing my mind.
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>>123610762
>Gowther
>alive
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>>123611747
Let´s just hope these tentacles aren´t protruding out of anything lewd
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>>123611675
Demon clan's symbol is known since forever, it's the mark Meliodas has on his forehead when he uses his Demon powers.
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>>123611374
Literally how does he pull that off in a doll state or even without his doll state when Merlin couldn't do jack shit with her magic?
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>>123611864
That's not necessarily the mark of Demon Clan, but the mark of his specific caste. Hendricksen and Fraudrin had marks too, but it's different for each of them. Hendricksen's mark was a mere slash while Fraudrin's was kinda scythe-y looking.

Meliodas' demon mark looked similar to Zeldris and Estarossa (whose marks are on the opposite side)..
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>>123611747
Am i bad for thinking she should be fighting King? and then some lewd stuff?
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>>123611965
From the spoilers, Merlin seemed to be trying to negotiate with Galan when, after lying to him, she got turned into stone. So let's just see if the chapter leaves any time for her to do any background action like reactivating Gowther during this scene.

That or Gowther naturally regained enough power to reawaken and act again. Merlin did say the return to his original form was only temporary.
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>>123612047
It'd be quite convenient timing though.
Also a really short while, it's like it's not even worth it to use AC on him.

I'm thinking Merlin might've used Absolute Cancel on him at the same time she cast it on Diane last chapter.
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>>123611984
I think she should "fight" all the attractive people in Britannia, if you know what I mean
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>>123612047
Well i mean, even if Gowther is in his original form, Merlin's magic couldn't even reach him and her magic is radius of a few miles. but given how Gowther does reactivate its very likely this is his illusion

>>123612149
Merlin did use magic cancel on something
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Where are the full chink scans?
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>>123612217
Yeah, she cast it on Diane to make her grow back to giant form.

I'm thinking she might have predicted getting fucked and used it on Gowther at the same time
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>>123612217
It didn't reach him. Merlin's magic was an area of effect spell that specifically only targeted the unfriendly. By the way Galan reacted, we can tell that he was able to sense the magic being used.

Galan was hit by Meliodas' initial surprise attack when the former had just finished annihilating a part of Camelot and was returning his attention to the people in front of him. So Galan can be hit by surprise. He didn't notice the clones being made, although that didn't really matter much since he can react quickly. Anyway, surprise attacks can hit him and maybe magic usage under a certain level.

>>123612260
Magic Cancel shouldn't work on helping Gowther return to normal since she used Absolute Cancel on the magic that animates Gowther. What he needs is something that makes the magic cast on his doll body recover faster, right?
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>>123611747
she just might be a he.not that i have an issue,but ya know.
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>>123612318
>It didn't reach him. Merlin's magic was an area of effect spell that specifically only targeted the unfriendly. By the way Galan reacted, we can tell that he was able to sense the magic being used.
To clarify, what I meant was that rather than "reaching" him, it was more like it didn't activate fast enough before he could react and move out of its way.
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>>123612318
She canceled the Absolute cancel anon
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>>123612318
>What he needs is something that makes the magic cast on his doll body recover faster, right?
Merlin does have "Power Amplify" in her repertoire.
Maybe that spell helps Gowther recover
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>>123612375
Oh yes, that's a better idea.

>>123612364
It's not a persistent spell. Otherwise, she could indefinitely force Gowther to remain inactive.
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>>123612430
And why didn't she just use absolute cancel?

clearly all this is an illusion
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>>123612460
I suppose if Mel has to go full demon mode then it's not a dream.
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>>123612337
I don't know, Nakaba draws his shotas in a particular manner. Take Orlondi and Simon, for example.

Octololi's got a certain amount of softness to her features.

>>123612460
Oh, berserk mode Meliodas again. Although I wonder if this is before or after he gets stabbed through the brain.
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>>123612486
Ok yeah, if it was an illusion this wouldn't make sense unless the illusion is only on the finishing part.
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Gowther's ability, yes.
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guys it's true that the obnoxious pig is dead? I would pick up f it's true
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>>123612519
BASED GOWTHER
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E
D
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>>123612519
I´m grinning so much right now
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>>123612489
>>123612492
Ah, there we go. Probably before, after all.

Seems like Galan will be the one to create that huge black hole in Bartra's prophecy after all.

>>123612515
Not necessarily. Galan just has to kill people AFTER demon mode Meliodas has failed.
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>>123612486
C'mon, Diane did not do anything. She didn't use any of her technique.
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>>123612525
>talking shit about Sir Hawk the strongest of the sins
you best be joking son
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>>123612578
No shit he even revived himself after getting killed
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>>123612558
Either the demon form happens before the arrow or it's something else, the thing is Mel's demonic is not something all the Sins 100% know about. I suppose Merlin knows about it but other than that everyone else keeps a very 'eh whatever' or 'it's not something to think about' attitude about it.
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>>123612486
Gowther uses Galans memories and expectations to create an ideal conclusion in his mind.
He doesn´t have to know that Meliodas can go demon mode beforehand, because he knows everything that is needed to know to mindfuck someone once he hits them with an arrow
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>>123612519
Best "boy" saves the day
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>>123612601
I miss mini-Hawk
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>>123612608
Gowther knows.
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>>123612611
Gowther knows Meliodas can turn into a demon anyways.
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>>123612668
Yeah, the point is that it doesn´t really matter either way
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>>123612525
No, he's fine.
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FedSubs or ISS?
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Man, Gowther makes all the other MCs look bad.
His power is pretty OP though.
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>>123612729
irrelevant
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>>123612905
Zeldrix warned Galan about overestimating his opponents. And he was right.
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>>123612960
I think you meant underestimating anon.
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>>123612999
Right. Really sleepy here.
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>>123612960
In hindsight they will ultimately lose because they were too careful. If everyone just went there than this would all be over.
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>>123613079
As if. Diane powered up by Merlin would be able to wipe and hurt most of them. They wouldn't see it coming either since they'd be tripping like motherfuckers.
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>>123613102
>Diane ever not jobbing
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http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/121/page/1
RedHawk delivers
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>>123613119
Team effort!
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>>123613119
That´s because she only found herself in unfortunate situations up till now anon.

Either way, I think Diane needs to grow stronger to be of use against the demons. Giant clan training-arc when?
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>>123613190
Samefag here.
The Seven Sins probably all need a powerup to compete against the commandments
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Let's dump it.
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>>123613167
Galan got played like a fiddle.
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>>123613256
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Meliodas is so fucking weak, his brothers are probably 50000 times stronger than him and don't forget that one of the weakest demon lords is literally shitting on them solo with no magic at all while Meliodas is pumped with magic and strength.

B T F O
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>>123613275

>>123613263
Sexy, sexy Gowther.
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>>123613263
Or did he?
Maybe everyone is actually dead and now we watch the hilarious, albeit rapey antics of Gowther.
Then he proceeds to kill the Commandments.

I, for one, welcome our new overlord Gowther.
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Holy shit fuckign Gowther
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>Galan says Meliodas has become weak as shit
>Galan can't break through the perfect cube, why didn't Merlin cast it around all of the sins to figure out a plan?
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>>123613298
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>>123613328
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>>123613314

He was like an inch near her so she couldn't to anything funny I guess.
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>>123613314
exactly what i was fucking wondering
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>>123613211
They're probably already powerful enough we just haven't seen it yet.

I mean all sorts of shit has happened to Ban but everything has healed except for whatever Meliodas did to his face. We haven't seen Meliodas pull anything like that yet.
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mfw ive never been this hype since frieza vs goku

GALAN
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>>123613348
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>>123613300
Gowther seems to be playing the "happy" emotion.
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>>123613314
He did say that he can't do it easily.
So I guess he could do it, he just can't be assed to do it because Arthur and the other leftovers are weak shits.
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>>123613374

>>123613314
The Sins would be safe, but what about the people of Camelot?
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>>123613374
>This is when Merlin gave his orders to Gowther
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>>123613407
Galan seems like a great enforcer to insure loyalty amongst their vassals.
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>>123613413

Either that or her death broke the spell
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>>123613167
what page is it where gowther use his illusion?
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>>123613292
Don't worry, I'm sure he'll get a power up in the future.
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>>123613428

>>123613439
No spell to break. Absolute Cancel isn't a charm or anything. It just cancels the spell.
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>>123613439
See, no. The cubes were still there. She ain't dead, she just turned to "stone". Ban was turned to stone too.
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>>123613456
Seems like Meliodas' controlled release of his demon mark only raises him this high.
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>>123613444
We don't see the moment Galan got hit.
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>>123613428
>Demon King is immune to his power
>He just lied
>Turns himself to stone
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>>123613480

>>123613488
Probably after Merlin got turned to stone, but before everyone starts getting killed.
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>>123613480
Damn Galan is one scary fucker.
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>>123613428
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"
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>>123613509
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>>123613488
i meant this image >>123612519
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>>123613509
>Nakaba hiding Galan's neck

Motherfucker!
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>>123613531
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>>123613523
wonder what the adultery and NTR commandments are like.
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>>123613550
At the end. p. 28.
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>>123613571
"Thou shalt not cuck"
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>>123613560

>>123613571
>Commit adultery
>Get fucked by tentacles
Hm?
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>>123613560
>Back of his neck still hidden
NAKABA!
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>>123613592
So, even stronger than King's ultimate.

>>123613571
Ah, just remembered that stoning is the traditional method to punish adultery.
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>>123613509
Which would mean Merlin did get turned into stone. Just how on earth will they get her out if she herself didn't dispel it?
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>>123613615
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>>123613615
>We don't see the back of his neck that got touched by the arrow
Fuck, Galan could have been hit at any time.
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>>123613550
I think Galan got hit shortly after he appeared behind Merlin.
Merlin had more than enough time to revive Gowther while Diane and Meliodas got their asses kicked.
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>>123613633

>>123613631
Well, maybe Gowther's Invasion can show an illusion of what "would" happen, based on the knowledge and memories of people? That would be an even stronger skill than what I imagined.
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>>123613667
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>>123613667
Maybe that means he knows what Meliodas is capable of and we get to see that but none of the other sins know.
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How hard will Escanor wreck Galan once he learns he turned Merlin into stone?
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>>123613667
>Well, maybe Gowther's Invasion can show an illusion of what "would" happen, based on the knowledge and memories of people? That would be an even stronger skill than what I imagined.
That´s exactly what Gowther can do, hence why he can fool practically anybody
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>>123613667
Well an illusion was cast on Galan and we all heard Merlin speak and her own internal monologue so that scene did happen, which would mean she did turn to stone given Galan ability. She might of dispelled it but that part was the illusion.
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>>123613691

>>123613693
Elizabeth and Arthur can see the carnage, so everyone has been affected by the illusion.
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>>123613699
Hold your horses man, we don´t even know how much of this chapter was actually an illusion
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>>123613714

>>123613708
Because if it's after, it would mean Diane and the others who got killed wouldn't have "seen" themselves getting killed by Galan, but if it's before, they'll have "experienced" death since everyone was already in the illusion.
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So Galan is the " You will not kill" commandment?
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>>123613663
>>123613607
>>123613558
do you are autistic?
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So Gowther has proved excpetionally useful.

is Diane the only one which hasn't done something meaningful? And i don't mean just one "impressive" fodder kill but actually something very useful
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>>123613723
I think everything was an illusion except the turn to stone part, hard for Gowther to predict an ability like that and fake memories
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>>123613746

>>123613747
He's the "truth". No lying, or be stoned.

Maybe King can de-petrify Merlin? His weapon seems to be capable of reversing its own petrification, so why not petrification performed by others?
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>>123613755
It will soon makes sense.
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>>123613747
Lie
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>>123613777
Oh, also
>Possible gaiden about Gowther next chapter
Seems like he's the most probable Sin to get one, considering how much of the spotlight he's been getting.
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>>123613767
She scared Helbram away with her "Mother Catastrophe", saving everyone
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>>123613802
Wait, just realized the Gaiden might not come out next week. Oh well, still looking forward to it.
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Who hype for the third Gaiden which was annonced? Will it be about gowther or mel, what do you think?

>>123613777
>Maybe King can de-petrify Merlin?
oh shot, forgot about that completly, so King and Ban are going to fix the mess
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>>123613802
>>123613777
>Mel is far away from Slader
>Turns out they are close as fuck

ILLUSIONS!
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>>123613825
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>>123613782
>>123613777
Is lie even part of the 10 commandments? I don't see it.

And holy shit i don't remember the do not covet your neighbours wife one. It takes a much more different tone now given being accustomed to ntr
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>>123613770
If Gowther hits you, your memories and expectations are his playing ground.
He could´ve easily preticted the turn to stone part
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>>123613852
and people thought he would job.
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>>123613852
>Dreyfus has a younger sister
I wonder if her hair is as fabulous as his and Griamor's.

>>123613841
What do you mean?
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>>123613802
The Info written at the right of the page means we'll get a backstory
possibly for Gowther judging by the end of the chapter
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>>123613876
Twist ending.

>>123613864
They believe he'll be the first to die. Probably to Escanor, considering what happened to Merlin this chapter.
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>>123613876
Meliodas was all alone in that scene whereGalan killed him and pushed him. But, it turns out, he actually is close as fuck to Slader (as seen when Dalan goes away). Meaning, it was all an illusion.
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>>123610705
>as shown in the last arc.
only pig did and likely he is plot relevant... somewhere

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The idea that all is an illusion of Gowther is not impossible but it means he did it before Merlin used Perfect Cube, which means he did it at the moment Galan arrived, when even meliodas got a free hit on him before he started to fight good
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>>123613902
It's great to see him so happy.
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>>123613747
Zeldris seems to be "thou shalt not kill"

>>123613861
see
>>123613523
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>>123611965
maybe he can undoll himself, merlin was forcing him into that armor and drugs for some reason but he decided to no do it
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>>123613896
Don't you mean left?
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>>123613933
Keikaku intensifies
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>>123613923
It would make most sense for it to have happened when Treader stood up to Galan.

And yes, Hawk revival probably has more to it than "Elizabeth asspull".
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>>123613933

Gowther secretly wanted the other sins out of his way and allowed Galan to slaughter them whilst manipulating his memory to avoid being attacked himself.
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>>123612318
>Magic Cancel shouldn't work on helping Gowther return to normal since she used Absolute Cancel on the magic that animates Gowther. What he needs is something that makes the magic cast on his doll body recover faster, right?
she said the absolute cancel on Gowther animatio spell only could stop it for a while, not erase it
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>>123613933
Gowther confirmed for not having a dick?
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I love Galan's design.
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>>123611965
His body is an illusion, not a powered up form. Who's to say that he can't cast illusions while in a doll-state?

>>123613948
The armor suppresses his power. Possibly, the spell that powers him with life causes him to become more erratic over time. That's what people hypothesized back when he started brainwashing Guila and Zeal.
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>>123613966
It's early for me :C
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>>123613933
I'm almost tempted to believe he is being influenced by Galan. Galan was seen laughing on the last page and now he is too seems like an extreme version of the other possessed holy knight where this times hes actually getting feed back.
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>>123613592
Mel looks so fucking stylish in demon mode.
>inb4 that 10k power level was one of his 5 clones
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>>123614027
We'll he's a doll, actually it wuld be suprising if he did have one
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>>123614054
dolls need love too. Soon 90% of the dolls sold world wide will be love dolls.
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>>123613933
Holy shit
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>>123614044
Well his power did make a super small hole. That massive hole he made should be an indication of his full power. He probably has to give himself up entirely to use that.
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>>123614042
Are you serious?

>>123614044
Dude, we know his powerlevel augments while in demon mode.
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>>123614099
Why wouldn't I be serious? It may be dumb but thats what came to mind.
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Everyone was affected by Gowther's arrow, it was all a battle inside their minds.
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>>123609082
>They were all dolls

asspull at its finest
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So is the anime shit or why is no one subbing it after Chyuu dropped it?
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>>123613980
Yes? Why are you replying to me?

Magic Cancel cancels magic. Absolute Cancel can also magic, but probably to a greater degree since it's Absolute.

Other anon was saying that Magic Cancel will cancel Absolute Cancel, but that doesn't really change the fact that Absolute Cancel was used in the first place since it's not an on-going spell. It's like, say, using it to cancel Diane's ability after she shapes the ground. It won't do anything; the ground has already been transformed. If it needs Diane's magic to sustain the shape, it might crumple, but it won't change the fact that it's already been altered. As opposed to, say, a fire spell being used to burn up an object. The fire would continue as long as it has something to burn, so it's an on-going spell. Merlin probably used Absolute/Magic Cancel on the purgatory fire that was burning Arthur up during his fight against Hendricksen.
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>>123614130
fuck off with your headcanon
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>>123613971
problem is, Elizabeth and Arthur were already inside perfect cube.

only bullshit explanation will be that Gowther Attack is not physical, so it can bypass Perfect Cube.
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>>123614044
>>123614095
Yeah, the hole he made this chapter seems to be around the same size as the one he made in the Edinburgh special.

The one he made back in Danafor was MUCH larger.
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>>123613933
NAKABAAAAAAAAAA

This HAS to be an illusion. The question is why is Meliodas so fucking weak compared to the other demons?
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>>123614167
>problem is, Elizabeth and Arthur were already inside perfect cube.
>only bullshit explanation will be that Gowther Attack is not physical, so it can bypass Perfect Cube.
wasn't gowther with threader? he wasn't in the perfect cubes like arthur, elizabeth and hawk iirc
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>>123614095
It's more likely that his current weak power is connected to the thing Merlin took from him. She refused to give it even when she heard about ten commandments though, and with her manipulative nature there's no chance in hell she will return it that easily.

Really want to see what this motherfucker could do to Galan if he went full demon.
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>>123613933
So if Galan says he killed them all, which isn't true, does that mean he will turn himself into stone?
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Huh. Theory. Was Lost Vayne created by the same guy who made Gowther? Since Meliodas' clones and Gowther's body are illusions with a physical body, I just thought there might be a connection.

>>123614167
>>123614236
>only bullshit explanation will be that Gowther Attack is not physical, so it can bypass Perfect Cube.
Seems like the way to go.
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>>123614127
Why would Gowther need to mindfuck everyone into believing that they are dead? How does that even work?

I think everything that happened in this chapter happened in Galans mind, and Gowther will cancel the illusion after Galan has left, thinking he killed everyone.
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>>123614240
I mean you can hardly blame Merlin, they had no idea what they were getting themselves into and hardly had anytime to even devise any sort of meaningful plan, we'll they did get out alive in the end though.
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>>123613933
I was pretty angry with Gowther for what he did to Guile but this is just too perfect
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>>123613509
>>123613746
>>123613777
>>123613802

It keeps happening!

IT!
KEEPS!
HAPPENING!
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>>123614280
If you tell a lie you turn into stone. He truly believes he killed them, therefore he's not lying just ignorant to Gowther's mindfuck.
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>>123614235
He's 3000 year old.
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>>123614235
Time is cruel.

>>123614280
Probably doesn't work on him. Now, if his companions said so after he tells them, would they turn to stone? I'm guessing Galan's power only works when a person knows they're lying.
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>>123614235
>This HAS to be an illusion. The question is why is Meliodas so fucking weak compared to the other demons?
Galan said it, time is not kind, the other might not have its magic but still have their physical strength, compared to em, Meliodas Body aged 3000 (IF, its his real body)
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>>123614288
Same reason why he mindfucked Diane and King back during the Edinburgh mission? It's so much more dramatic that way.
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>>123614236
I mean, that Elizabeth and Arthur must be under Gowther illusion too, and for him to do so, he must have struck em before Perfect Cube activated
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Galan seems to be the only demon so far concerned with his age.
Maybe he's really old himself and tries to judge things from this perspective.
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>>123614349
>>123614341
Nah, it's just that while demon-mode is an instant powerboost, Meliodas power keeps increasing
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>>123614280
lies are matter of perception, error are not lies. claiming an error is right even when you know other wise, thats a lie
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>>123614374
Why do they have to be under Gowthers illusion if they´re only part of Galans illusion?
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It's pretty obvious that Gowther mindfucked Galan but still HOLY SHIT.
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We don't know what Elizabeth and Arthur saw.
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>>123614428
Yeah, because nothing that happened in this chapter is real
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I was thinking this is Nightmare Terror at first, but if I remember it right, then there would be obscurities and oddities hidden or camouflaged somehow on pages.Don't think there are any, right?Unless I missed them.
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>>123614054
How did he soil Guila then?
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I remember how some people said that Galan looks like a jobber when he first showed up.
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>>123614374
perhaps everything we saw right after me used his black power on galan was part of gowther illusion and we saw the event from galan's perspective? It would make sense when gowther struck him when galan was busy with mel, the only thing is that I don't understand at which point gowher free'd himself
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>>123614456
He only uses Nightmare Terror if he wants to break someones spirit, which is too big of a task for Gowther I guess.
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If only he had had time to use his sword in it's released state.
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>>123614470
Tribbing.
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Anyone else realized the importance of the chapter title?
"Impossible to predict"

Chapter 59 was Gowther's "Introduction" chapter was literally called "Unpredictable man enters the stage".
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So nobody cares that Threader lost an arm? Shit most probably happened before the illusion.
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>>123614574
Losing an arm in this series isn´t really a problem anon
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>>123614574

Just a flesh wound
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>>123612729
RedHawk Scans
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>demon meliodas power level 4,400.
>he used to be feared in the demon world

wat, why is he so weak
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>>123614655
10.300 actually in this chapter.
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>>123614655
He´s probably far beyond his expiration date
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>>123614655
He is sealed. Merlin stole his precious thing. He is using a crappy (most likely) human made weapon. He doesn't want to rage full power and go insane killing everyone. Maybe even more reasons we don't know of yet to boot.
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>>123614677
Still too weak. Is it because 3000 years passed and he became kinda rusty?
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>>123614655
yeah he sucks dick, even the demon says it
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>>123614655
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>>123614690
>expiration date
>demon
>his brother is probably the strongest there and will probably have a power of 1mil
>EXPIRATION DATE

come on bro
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>>123614455
So it was literally nothing happens - the chapter?
Way to use 30 pages
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>>123614573
Oh god, that's nice. Gave me a giggle.

>>123614574
He didn't lose his arm, did he? It was just crushed.
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>>123614740
In the next chapter it is revealed that it was the sacred sword thing that she took away after leaving, and pawned it away before getting it back.
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>>123614792
But Merlin said "we will talk about getting 'that' back later" when they were fighting that sand giant.
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>>123613933
W-whats he going to do with them?
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So Honour thy father and thy mother will be Estarossa right?
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>>123614792
I think there was still something else.
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>>123614813
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>>123614808
Yah I found it
http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/115/page/18
for this guy
>>123614792
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This chapter was a way for the author to get more monies by trolling the readers.
Dumbass demon got trolled by Gowther.
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>>123614792
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I'm guessing Slader somehow helped to turn Gowther back.

Merlin did note in 114 how she'll give him the specialized case after handing him Doll Gowther.
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Zeldoris = Kill (he sealed the vampires)
Estarossa = Adultery
Galan = Truth
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>>123614818
I'm more interested which one of them was Mel. He was obviously a part of Commandments.
Thou shalt not murder?
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>>123614911
forgot to add Fraudin for stealing Dreyfus's body
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>gowther showing emotions
Could it be true?
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>>123614944
His voice box is still square.
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>>123614944
It's only natural to laugh after you've pulled off a prank on someone.
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I dont really know what anyone else thinks, but i personally think that estarossa and meliodas were once the same entity, but when sealing the rest of the demon clan, he forsaked most of his demonism which manifested into estarossa, thats why he can only use his demon power every once in a while and why the poster looks like estarossa, i mean considering how powerful a demon meliodas mustve been, he had to have been a member of the 10 commandments, i doubt anyone in there was an actual replacement, so it only makes sense to assume that they didnt need a replacement because of estarossa, cuz i doubt they would have a name like the 10 commandments and only have 9 members
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>>123614944
No. It's still their twisted imitation.
He has a long way to go to become Machine Banchou.
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>>123614911
Why would Zeldris be tasked with executing the vampires if his title was thou shal not kill?
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If only Galan was targeted by the illusion, why are Elizabeth and Arthur still seeing things after he went away?
Also if the illusion was made to cater Galan desires,shoudn't perfect cube have been shattered too?
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>>123614911
doubt Estarossa is adultery, the birds were sitting on him. Remember to keep holy the sabbath?
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>>123615003
The illusion has to be realistic so that way he will believe it.
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>>123614986
>demon lord got angry after Mel's betrayal
>separated Mel from most of his power, transforming this power into an entity called Estarossa
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>>123615004
stealing Elizabeth on herdream
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>>123615003
No. Because it's a "secret demon technique". It's only normal that as a proud demon, he'd have trouble breaking it. It's even spelled out for you.
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>>123615003
>Also if the illusion was made to cater Galan desires
What gave you that impression?

It showed off the reality of the situation. Galan could easily kill everyone; that's not just what he wants, but the truth.
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>>123614986
I'm guessing whoever made the wanted posters as well as "why" could be of importance?

Cause whoever made them, they knew Estarossa.
And despite that, it doesn't depict the Meliodas we know as well.
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>>123615057
>Easily
>Implying if worse come to shove, DIane wouldn't have done more

She layed there for hours when we know she is a fucking tank. It ain't a fucking blow to her head that'd put her in this state. It's more complex than that.
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Threader best husbando,it's just adorable how he tried with all his might to protect Merlin
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Holy shit, Gowther NOYES
Well that was a pretty nice way of showcasing the 10 commandments powers without having to kill off any of the sins, we still know that Galan could have pretty much killed everyone there but now they're still alive. And it also leads into a Gowther backstory, I was actually expecting his to come next, then probably Diane's will happen if/when they encounter Matrona. Well done Nakaba.
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You can all stop asking questions now..
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>Merlin is petrified
>she's the one who stole some very important shit from Mel that possibly unlocks his full control over demon power
>implying Nakaba will bring her back any time soon
This is going to be rough for Mel who can only release his incomplete power that hurts everyone around him right now.
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>>123615186
What? Who are you even talking to?
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So,here is the deal:
Galan was still sealed. He likely had 1% of his real power and still thrashed everyone. Even Demon Meliodas didn't hit half of Galan's powerlevel.
Aside from Mel,Merlin and Gowther that could pull some magic/demon hax out of their asses,how are the rest of the sins going to beat them?
Especially Diane.
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>>123615202
>implying Nakaba will bring her back any time soon
Probably when they reunite with King and Ban. King could un-pretify her.

>>123615214
Er, he was only drained of MAGICAL power. His physical strength and spirit shouldn't represent 1% of his power.
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>>123613292
>don't forget that one of the weakest demon lords
When was that stated?
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>>123615214
That's probably not the case.
It's implied the demons lost their magic.
Galan not only seems to be a very physical fighter, but he also stated he hates magicians.

I could see him having really little magic, so he probably wasn't too badly hurt by the seal.
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>>123615214
For Diane, we haven't seen her backstory yet, so maybe it'll come up when she gets a power boost, like if they ever come across Matrona or any giants.
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>>123615206
To the guy asking about Estarrosa, probably was obvious since he called Zeldris 'BROTHER'
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>>123614773
Actually it´s "Gowther makes Galan leave"- the chapter
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>>123615295
I don't want this to be the limit though. These are supposed to be the cream of the crop of the strongest of the clans. I really want them to get stronger.
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>>123615348
More like "Gowther trolls again".
His wild ride will never stop.
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>>123615283
Never.But seems like the typical thing to do.Party encounters the weakest member of an antagonist group getting a taste of the power, making it seem hopeless when considering the others are stronger than the one who just trashed them.
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>gilthunder and jobber crew ever being relevant after powerlevels escalated this much
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Meliodas could powerup and fight the ten commandment yes, but other sin except for maybe Escanor will now become eternal jobber.
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>>123615442
>implying that won't pull a dbz and have the maximum limit achievable by humans increase by leaps and bounds
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>>123615488
I'm really interested to know how strong Escanor is at noon
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>>123615303
>Diane will take part in a giant-fighting competition and earn her place as the warchief of the giant-clan
Yes please
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>>123615341
Ah, yeah.

But you shouldn't have just taken a screenshot of the wiki page as evidence. Zeldris calls Estarossa brother (and mentions his name for the first time) at the end of Revelation.
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>>123615388
It's probably not the limit. Galan's dialogue implies he's fairly old, and... I guess age does matter in terms of power based on what he said about Mel for demons.

So while right now, before the seal restoration, he might be the among, if not the strongest Commandment, but that'll probably change when they regain their magic. He might end up being on the weaker spectrum.

Then again, who knows what the third arc will be and how much stronger the enemies there will be.
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>>123615544
>I guess age does matter in terms of power based on what he said about Mel for demons.
It matters for EVERYONE. Getting old means getting weaker, at a certain point. There's no special meaning beyond that at this point, given how Galan delivered that line.
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>>123613933
Gowther just fucking die already
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So what precisely was Merlin's lie?
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>>123615521
over 50,000
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>>123615610
Without him everyone in at image except him would of been dead.
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>>123615539
king of fairies x leader of giants OTP

>>123615610
pls no bully
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>>123615635
the deal, she had no plans to tell him anything and made up on the spot to simply buy time
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>>123615635
Lying that she'll tell them EVERYTHING she knows to help them?
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>>123615656
Oh King!
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>>123615598
Well, that depends.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Demons just didn't get weaker with age.
So I more meant that Demons don't have some kind of saiyan thing going on where they'll never age physically, so even when they get really old, they retain their strength.
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>>123615674
>>123615681

That cannot be it.
She wanted him to leave to avoid destruction not buy time.

If Galan would tell her what he knows, she would have to talk to, cause it was about making him leave.Not doing so, would go against her intentions to save Camelot.
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>>123615803
She never had the intention to tell him anything. She's just bluffing to buy times. She'll just lead him on goose chase with more irrelevant questions.
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>>123615766
It's not as if that can't be the case, but why would you think that? It's not implied, that's for sure. All he said is that "time is a cruel thing". He was actually surprised that Meliodas had become weak, you know.

>>123615803
She could tell him some stuff for sure, but she can't really tell him everything. Plus, she'd have to give him any aid he requires. She has to give her all to help them, basically.
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>>123615186
>wiki

Really now?
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this shit was no different from uchiha genjutsu bullshit
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>>123615803
I think the point was regardless if whether or not she would have told him anything is that she made that deal or said those things without any of that intention and was simply to buy time
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>>123615803
It was buying time to figure out a way to make him leave.

And by the looks of it, she came up with releasing Gowther.

And hey, it worked. Too bad all of Camelot will now be raped by him instead.
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Wasn't Galan power supposed to be sealed? Wasn't that the whole point of this page and the one before?
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>>123615843
Pay fucking attention, she has a fucking inner monologue pondering that she has to make him retreat to save everyone not buying time or bluffing.
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this chapter was great until the ending

I knew only an asspull would save them but this still sucks
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>>123615892
Gowther has been using illusions and brainwashing for a while, anon. In fact, it's the majority of everything he's done. He uses it in all fights.
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>>123616002
Someone like Galan shouldn't have been affected or should have noticed
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>>123615972
It's not sealed. Not sealed anymore, anyway, after Hendricksen temporarily opened up the Goddess Seal. His "power", that is, his magic power was drained. His physical strength and spirit weren't affected, except perhaps by disuse.

Power level is composed of power (magical might), strength (physical ability), and spirit.
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>>123615996
twist=/= asspull dumbass
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>>123614204

Are you blind? Hole at this Chapter was like 1/10 of the Edinburgh hole.
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>>123616045
>Power level is composed of power (magical might), strength (physical ability), and spirit.

That's what makes me confused...if he has no magical power, how did his "truth" power still work?
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>>123615994
Not coming up with a better argument?Thanks for conceeding.
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>>123616076
Passive skill
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>>123616076

Illusion.
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Why did Nakaba kill off best girl, and when will she return?
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>>123616042
>shouldn't have been affected
Why? Because his spirit is over what exactly? Aren't you just making an unnecessary assumption?

>should have noticed
Like when Meliodas attacked him by surprise at the beginning of their battle? He noticed Merlin's teleportation spell because the entire area was saturated in it. He didn't notice when Meliodas used Lost Vayne to create his clones, so why would he notice Gowther's illusion magic when he couldn't tell apart Meliodas' clones except through his sense of battle?

>>123616076
Ah, I see. Maybe it's not his power, but some sort of enchantment that the Demon King placed on him?
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>>123614792
didn't he sell his sword so he obliviously didn't get that taken off him
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>>123616042
what decides whether this is an asspull or not will not be the illusion but how someone like Galan even got affected when he easily got out of Merlin's magic radius
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So did Mel actually go Demon mode or was that an illusion?
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>>123616186

How the fuck should we know?
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>>123609353
>OMG THIS CAN'T BE REAL.
One chapter after clone ability is revealed.
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>>123616177
10 seconds, buddy.
He was standing there for a little while, a short as it may have been.
Getting hit by that black beam can also have acted as the moment where he got struck.

Matter of fact, Galan seems to like toying.
He's fast as fuck, but if you look, you can see there are moments where he is standing momentarily.
If he doesn't anticipate Gowther, let alone aware of his existence and powers, there are plenty of chances.
Cause I don't think Galan was aware of him.
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>>123615996
>asspull
>Gowther has never used illusions
ok
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>>123616148
>Maybe it's not his power, but some sort of enchantment that the Demon King placed on him?

Probably the case, Galan even said.

>This commandment given by the King of the demons is absolute.
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>>123614677
that power levell was an illusion

Nothing that happened in this chapter was real
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>>123616292
true, but gowther still has to shoot something, and that arrow he shoots is by no means super fast. Either way next chapter we'll know
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>>123616370
This entire manga is fake and everything is just Gowther using his mind fucking on the readers
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>>123616376
>by no means super fast
Why not? It's an arrow created from magic. Possibly from his Sacred Treasure, if his ability to create those projectiles are because Herritt is integrated into his body. With his precision, there's no reason why he can't get a surprise attack to hit like Meliodas in his unempowered form.
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The Sins should just have Gowther hide in the background and have him use his bullshit powers on people they can't beat
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>>123616368
>10 Commandments
>Given by Demon King

So it basically confirms they are the answer to the commandments.

Don't speak falsely of others - Lie to Galan and you turn to stone.
The "Don't murder" commandment could be broken as fuck then, try to kill that demon and you are affected with something.
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>>123616437
Well we know he got hit, and we've seen how fast those arrows are, i find it strange that someone like Galan would still not even notice it being shot let alone be hit and still not know.
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>>123616376
Do you know how powerful is Gowther right now? Why do think he needed an armor?
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>>123616529
About 3000
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>>123616511
We haven't really seen how fast those arrows are, but there's no reason their speed can't be changed if Gowther can also turn them into homing arrows.

>would still not even notice it being shot
Lots of characters never notice they've been hit.

Why would they even notice they were hit unless Gowther incorporates that into the illusion, anyway?
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>>123616529
how powerful IS gowther?
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>>123616529
>>123616601
Well, his power level was given before. Around the 3000-4000 range, like everyone else in the Sins.
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>>123616489
>try to kill that demon

Attempted murder isn't murder.

You would have to kill for his power to trigger, probably he tricks you into killing someone else to trigger it like when Aizen made everyone stab momo.
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>>123616588
They are fast but relative to Galan it's super slow hence my suprise, but this is all pointless since it will be showed next chapter anyway
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>>123613691
So many great panels in this chapter. This one is probably my favorite. Mel posing in the foreground, while he sets off his signature move in the back look just damn good. Love that composition. Close seconds would be Galan slicing things up in >>123613509 and of course thew hilariously outlandish cliffhanger page >>123613933, which I think is a great contender for one page threads.

As for the chapter itself, seems the king of Lyoness chose well, when he appointed the sins with his foresight power. Without Gowther they would have gotten creamed at this point.
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>>123615494
>dbz
>humans being relevant
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>>123616588
Broadcast was pretty fast.
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>>123616648
>but relative to Galan it's super slow hence my suprise
You can say the same thing about Meliodas, can't you? Without his demon mark, Meliodas is on the same level as the other Sins. If Meliodas can get a surprise hit in, why can't Gowther?
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>>123613691
Now I realized that Meliodas's belt has a pig.
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>>123616724
I don't even think that was a surprise hit , it didn't really look like it but more like ill just take it.
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>>123613509
I'm curious how anyone would even have a chance against the Ten Commandments if Galan is this strong. A group battle between the Sins and the Commandments would be way too one sided.
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>>123616625
Power levels vary and his armor was a limiter to control his powers and not lose reason.
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>>123616777
I'm curious how anyone would even have a chance against Frieza.
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>>123616753
Ooh, Meliodas takes advertising his bar pretty seriously.

>>123616763
Stealth attack, then. All that matters is that Gowther was unaware and unprepared to take the hit.
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>implying mountains exert pressure
Is Slader retarded.
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>>123616826
With asspulls.
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>>123616832
>Gowther was unaware and unprepared to take the hit.
What?
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>>123616885
Galan, heh. G names.
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>>123616841
If they drop on you, they sure as hell fucking do.
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There will be three arcs, this is the second arc so the characters are guaranteed to win against the Demon Clan, there is no point in arguing about shitty powerlevels and asspulls. In fact, there is no point in reading this manga. Why am I even reading it? I think I'll stop today because I'm intelligent.
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>>123616841
If you're lying under one it does. Are you being willfully obtuse? Besides, I'm sure Slader will think up something better for your reading pleasure, once he isn't in the middle of a death match, getting bitch slapped.
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Well lets guess I guess.

>Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Estarossa
>Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them
Big Mask Guy
>Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
Fraudrin
>Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy
Floating Demon Souls Monster
>Honour thy father and thy mother
Blondie with the cloak
>Thou shalt not kill.
Zeldris
>Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Female Ban
>Thou shalt not steal.
Rapier guy
>Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Galan
>Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass
Octo-loli
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>>123613428
this has me wondering.. if someone were to say, "I will kill you Galan." and they aren't able to, do they immediately turn into to stone upon saying that or not only until after their actions are deemed futile?
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>>123617003
>I think I'll stop today because I'm intelligent.
Are you also nihilistic and do you have a wicked sense of humor?
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>>123617009
>Thou shalt not commit adultery.
>octololi
>Thou shalt not covet [...] his ass
>Female Ban
ftfy
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>>123617038

What you believe is what determines a lie.

If you say "I will kill you Galan" and you believe that you will be successful then you are not lying.
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>>123616943
>>123617005
He's talking about spiritual pressure, though.
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>>123617009
Please, the Commandments have just become fucking unpredictable in terms of what they stand for.
Galan is the one guy who insisted on causing bloodshed and murder and this guy is Truth.
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>>123617038
No,because they sincerely believed that they could kill him. That's just an error,not a lie.
Lying is when you know that what you are saying isn't true,but you say it anyway.
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>>123617038
Being wrong =! Lying
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>>123617038
Might be more of a mental thing? Can't say for sure.

>>123617074
Like in this case, what if someone is just putting up a strong front? False confidence and all that.

It might just be a contextual ability that triggers when someone is willfully trying to deceive Galan. That would be the simplest interpretation, anyway.
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>>123617003

Some characters can become evil, die, etc. And a lot of mindfuck incoming.
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>>123617038
Well, I think that you need to have the Intent to lie to Galan. If you try to kill him, but simply are not able to I wouldn't count that as a lie.
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Why they just didn't all get into a perfect cube?

Reminder that just 1 of the 10 raped everyone easily without been on his full power... how the fuck they are going to win especially now that they are all dead
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>>123617106
>Actually having to explain what a lie is.
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>>123617086
You can't lie to the Demon Clan seems to be the interpretation here.

So the 10 Commandments may be the ones who punish those who commit crimes against their clan.
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>>123617086
>Please, the Commandments have just become fucking unpredictable in terms of what they stand for

Yeah I know, its a complete mystery.
What if though... hold on a sec and bear with me here...
What if The Ten Commandments stood for The Ten Commandments! And each one of them stood for one of The Ten Commandments!
I know, its out there.
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>>123617119
but to galan, the person just lied. they weren't able to kill him but claimed otherwise.
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>>123617163
There was still the rest of Camelot to protect. Galan only destroyed a part of it; there were still citizens that needed protecting.

Merlin couldn't use magic to get into Perfect Cube, so if she put herself into one, she might not be able to cast magic to affect the area outside.
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>>123617038
No point in time specified, so he could still end up killing Galan in the future, so not a lie. It's useless to think about such fringe cases, since we don't know how it's supposed to work. Same as those dudes asking whether female Ranma can get pregnant, or trying to make predictions based on powerlevels in any given shounen series.
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>>123617163
Cause then they are within the Cube and can't do shit while Galan is fucking up Camelot.
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Is OST II available somewhere?
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>>123617079
It's a figure of speech in the middle of a fight. Get over it.
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>>123617121
>Like in this case, what if someone is just putting up a strong front? False confidence and all that.

Are you trolling? This is like watching a replicant take the "am I human" test.
If you say "I will kill you" and you believe it, then that is not a lie. You are telling the truth.
If you say "I will kill you" and you don't believe it, then that is a lie. You were not telling the truth.
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>>123617241
youtube
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>>123617211
hey, that makes sense. good on you anon.
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Thones Runes are really ruining this manga
Just pop one and you're all good, no matter if you're dismembered or if you're in the verge of death.
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>>123617263
No, I understand that, but it has a different context.

"The person doesn't believe they can kill the other person, but tries to anyway" is different from "trying to deceive the other party".
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>>123617328
Maybe they arn't full heals just physical like this guy when he healed alot.
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>>123617009
Here's my take
01. "God" - Cold Steel/Adult Mel

02. "Idol" - Cold Steel/ Adult Mel (I'm guessing all three Mels are directly related to the demon king so they get the god related spots)

03. "Blasphemy" -FemBan (Potty mouth)

04. "Sabbath" - Blob (He seems like a chill guy.)

05. "Honour" - Rapier Guy (Most knight-like)

06. "Kill" - Giant dude (most killtastic looking guy)

07. "Adultery" - Octololi

08. "Steal" - Fraudrin (body snatcher)

09. "Truth" - Galan

10. "Cover" - the chick with shadow arm cloaks
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So is Gowther the next great Aizen?
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>>123617264
Only OST 1 is on youtube. It's probably just a question of hours now.
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>>123617351

You are talking about two completely different things.

A lie depends upon intentionality.

>The person doesn't believe they can kill the other person, but tries to anyway

This is not a lie or a truth.
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>>123617167
>this thread
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>>123617462
I'm talking about this in the context of a person saying "I'll kill you".
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>>123617418
Since when were you under the impression Gowther isn't Aizen?
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>>123617488

Did the person who said "I'll kill you" believe that they would be successful?

If yes, they told the truth.
If no, then they lied.

Intentionality.
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Gowther vs Aizen, who wins?
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>>123617488
That´s a prediction.
If you don´t know that the prediction will come true or not, it won´t be a lie
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RUNES
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>>123617545
>If you don´t know that the prediction will come true or not, it won´t be a lie

Actually, if you are not sure if it will come true or not. It IS a lie.
It's only not a lie if you honestly believe you will be successful.
If you are not sure, or don't think you will be successful, then it's a lie.
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>>123617488
>>123617530

Just stop this pointless shit.
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>>123617541
Aizen has a insanely retarded plot armor that Gowther doesn't have.
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>>123617497
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>>123617530
Yeah, and there we go. That's what I was talking about in my first post.

It's a lie, but to themselves. They're not trying to deceive Galan, but putting up a strong front. They're not trying to deceive Galan into thinking they're capable of killing them, they're just shouting out some bravado. A separate scenario would be if they were lying to make themselves seem tougher, but that's different from what I'm saying.
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So pretty much we've seen so far all the sins get rekted except Escanor.

Will anyone be able to do that to noon Escanor?
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>>123617328
Well, that guy from Dawn Roar never bothered reattaching his limbs so I guess they stop doing that if you wait for too long.
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>>123617645
Nope
Sir Escanor is almighty.
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>>123617645
Early morning Escanor seems to be around Meliodas' max demon mark level here, so I've got some expectations for him at his maximum power.
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Escanorfags got BTFO. Gowther is our one and true lord and savior.
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Friendly reminder, anons.
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>>123617737
>Early morning
That means he's the strongest for 1/2 the day, morning->evening.
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>>123617616
i ask one question that's already been answered and there are people arguing about it. + that one guy who actually explained what a lie is
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>>123617777
>>123617787
God damn it Gowther, stop being so awesome already.
There are other characters that are in desperate need for some spotlight too y´know?
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>>123617777
>implying Escanor won't have a more grand and specular appearance than this.
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>>123617806
>That means he's the strongest for 1/2 the day, morning->evening.
What? No, I'm just saying it was early morning by the end of the Sins' battle against the vampires. From 00:00 to 12:00 AM onwards, his power climbs up. Then from 12:00 to 00:00 PM, his power descends.

Escanor's power probably gradually changes by the day, but let's separate his power by the hour since that's how Merlin did it in the special. He's at his peak strength at 12, so from 11:30 to 12:30 would be the area around which he's at his peak strength (or the closest to it).
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>>123617904
The entrance he made in the Edinburgh special was already good enough dude
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>>123613934

So this guy and Melodias suffered from a curse like the "don't lie curse" from a commandment and became chibi. So the grown up Melodias from the wanted poster is the original form?
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>>123609082
R E K T
E
K
T
Now he can end this series by slowly killing off all the characters.
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>>123617970
>Early morning Escanor seems to be around Meliodas' max demon mark level here
Would mean early night would be the same, 06:00->18:00 meaning he's the strongest sin for 12 hours a day.
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>>123618090
He's going for 40 volumes, not happening.
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>>123618063
And how exactly did the guy that made the posters know about what he looked like if that the case? Melodias was also still small centuries ago when King was arrested.
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>>123617631

You and some of the other people in this thread are trying to make this way too complex because you keep shifting the point at where the wheel turns.

His power can can potentially trigger three ways;
- He believes you told a lie
- You believe you told a lie
- The power itself (a third party, this would be God traditionally) knows that you told a lie

The second version is the weakest version of this power, and that's presumably the version in Nanatsu no Taizai. This version depends upon what YOU believe. So if you say "I will kill you" and you believe it completely then you told the truth. It also potentially gets much more complicated because it depends on what you can CONVINCE yourself that you believe. For example you could flee from the fight and escape, and then when you realize that you didn't kill him then you would turn to stone, unless you could completely convince yourself that you will kill him the next time you meet, and that's what you meant. Like George told Gerry before he took the lie detector test 'Remember, it's not a lie, if YOU believe it!"

The first version is a little more powerful, but does have week points because now it depends on what Galan believes. If he hears you say "I will kill you" even if he thinks you are wrong if he's honest with himself he doesn't know 100% so he would have to fight to find out.

The third version is the most powerful, but it also means that there is no free will and everything is predestined and there is only one unchanging future. That way the power itself (god) hears what you say, looks into the future (or the past or the present) and determines if you told the truth or not. This version could be used for all kinds of tricks if you were smart. It also dispenses with intentionality because know it doesn't matter what someone believes. Only what will happen.
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>>123618167
source?
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>>123618134
His power peaks at noon, 12:00. 12:00 is his peak strength (disregarding whether or not the sun is at the "highest" point in the horizon at exactly 12:00, especially given that the orbit the Earth takes can change its light's position at whatever time of day depending on what time of the year it is, it does here within the story).

Anyway, either his power rises at midnight (00:00), or else it wouldn't match.

>the strongest sin for 12 hours a day.
I wasn't really arguing against this, you know. I'm just talking about the time of the day at which his power rises and at which it declines.
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>>123618063
He said the demon king gave him the power, so it's entirely possible the demon king can take away the power (which he would do for a traitor).
Makes you wonder what kind of beast the demon king is if he can hand out shit that strong on a whim.
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>>123618167
One of his interviews.
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>>123618471
he isn't saying that the series isn't going for 40 volumes. He's saying that they arn't being killed off.
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>>123618471
Meant to quote >>123618282
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>>123618302
It was openly stated he's at his strongest at noon and weakest at midnight.
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Holy fuck, the spoilers were actually true. I will never doubt them again.
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>>123618530
Oh, I just realized what the other guy was saying.

>It was openly stated he's at his strongest at noon and weakest at midnight.
I wasn't arguing against that, though.
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>>123618302
>>Anyway, either his power rises at midnight (00:00), or else it wouldn't match.
It starts rising the moment the sun rises. They raid Edinburgh at around midnight and he was still Wimpcanor then.
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>>123618203

I can't respond to that, I just thought that it could explain why Melodias became a weakling compared to what Galan expected as seeing two manlets is kinda weird.
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Would be nice if they actually stayed dead for a while because Gowther is being a little bitch and the story focuses more on Arthur.
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>>123618616
>It starts rising the moment the sun rises. They raid Edinburgh at around midnight and he was still Wimpcanor then.
His power peaks at noon, which means the sun is at its highest at noon.

It starts rising after midnight because, otherwise, it would be mismatched and he'd get weaker everyday.

>They raid Edinburgh at around midnight and he was still Wimpcanor then.
Yeah, because it was still close to midnight. But as time passed, he started getting more and more of his power back.
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>>123618699
>seven deadly sins
>it's about Arthur
Arthur pls go.
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>>123618780
The sequel could be about him, though.
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>>123618867
But why would it be?
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yfw the sins die and Arthur marries Elizabeth
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>>123618895
Because that'd be a logical follow-up, with Arthur recluting Meliodas and Ban's sons and going on adventures.
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>>123618944
Baltra pls go.
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>>123618999
They don't have kids.
And it'd no longer be the seven deadly sins at that point.
And even if the name was changed they'd get curb stomped because Escanor is the only fighter left that would even stand a chance against the 10 commandments.
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>>123618944
That makes me wonder, will Nakaba ever introduce Guinevere in NnT?
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So basically nothing happened in this chapter, it was just an illusion.
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>>123619103
Probably.

>>123619104
We don't know how much was an illusion.
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>>123618594
Out of the 3 spoilers I read over the last days, the one that turned out true was the one I dismissed outright as being too outlandish. That'll teach me.

So far, Suzuki had a knack to keep me satisfied at the end of a chapter. Like a roller coaster ride. You want more, but only because what just happened was already a great ride.
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>>123618702
Yeah, I understand what you're saying now. Though, from my understanding the power boost happens instantaneously as soon as the sun rises since Buffcanor is implied to be a split "being". So it's more like
>6:00 - Buffcanor awakens, power gradually rises
>12:00 - power peaks
>6:00 - Buffcanor is at his weakest, instantaneously reverts to Wimpcanor.
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>>123619080
>They don't have kids.
If we go by the legends they do. Meliodas and Elizabeth have Tristan, Ban and Elaine have Lancelot. You're right though, it wouldn't be the seven deadly sins anymore.
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>>123619104
Gowther wouldn't know about the petrification ability, it's possible everything since then was an illusion though.
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>>123619104
I think the illusion kicked in when Merlin got petrified. Her absolute cancel on Gowther stopped working and then Gowther immediatly shot his troll arrow.
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>>123619104
The whole story itself is an illusion, as it's not real. As long as you were entertained, what does it matter how the entertainment happened?
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