Are these really the guys that gave us Haruhi?
Shit show after shit show, sequel of said shitty shows.
They are beyond salvation now aren't they?
Euphonium could sell 50k and people would still call Kyoani a pile of shit.
I like Kyoani a lot, all of their shows are pretty enjoyable and some are just fantastic.
They're a bit too happy staying in their comfort zone IMO. All they're really doing is ensemble cast hijinks in a highschool setting across a variety of genres. I wish they'd venture a bit farther away and do entirely different settings. Scifi adventure, or something set in a university, fantasy that's not sooter in out world, or something with an entirely adult cast. I don't have anything against highschool settings, but Kyoani does nothing but those.
They also made a 1.3 million USD profit last year. If profiting is a sign of bankruptcy, I'm going to declare bankruptcy right now.
If you've been watching [email protected] Cinderella Girls, you'll realise that nothing of value was lost.
Takao's one of the better episode directors Kyoani ever has.
Sure, [email protected]:CG isn't anything amazing but the 2 episode she storyboarded were better than anything KyoAni put out on TV recently.
The show could've been a lot better if it's not ruined by A-1's horrible schedule management.
I'm not sure, to be honest.
I'd assume net, because with 150 employees, a gross profit of 1.3 million means that they're getting a slave wage and I doubt the studio with one of the most enviable working conditions in the industry would be able to keep staff happy when paying them peanuts.
And nothing of value was lost. Kadowaki Miku is a better character designer than her anyway.
Kyoani still have plenty of animation heavyweights, Ueno, Sekiichi and Ishidate all comes to mind.
According to most of /a/, every Kyoani show has Horiguchi's designs. Her leaving does nothing.
That's what they said about him over 10 years ago. Then Kyoani started making anime
>didn't like Free
God damn, what a huge faggot!
Does anyone in this thread even realize KyoAni has the highest average sales out of any studio? Not like that affects that much other companies since they usually are just contracted to animate stuff, but if KyoAni was on the verge of bankruptcy like an idiot up there said then quite literally all studios would be dead.
I still don't rate CG's first episode as highly as most people. It had some really nice touches, sure, but it didn't click with me as much as it did others. The animation was pretty good, though.
And this is coming from somebody who is ordering every G4U volume, regardless of how good or bad CG turns out to be.
Seeing as half the people ITT quoted the retard up above, I'd assume that most are aware, or at least not that stupid.
Animation production is not a competition between the staff. Everyone contribute to the overall quality of the show.
Kadowaki is a better designer than Kamoi?
So fucking what?
Kigami is probably the best animator at KyoAni but that doesn't mean he can carry the production alone.
With KyoAni handling more projects at a time, they need more experienced staff than ever.
Losing several experienced animators in a short period of time can only hurt the quality of their production.
>And nothing of value was lost. Kadowaki Miku is a better character designer than her anyway
Kamoi is a talented animation director, never forget this.
>Kyoani still have plenty of animation heavyweights, Ueno, Sekiichi and Ishidate all comes to mind
Ishidate is busy with directing KnK. How many animation cuts did he draw last year? 20?
>According to most of /a/, every Kyoani show has Horiguchi's designs. Her leaving does nothing
Same with Kamoi, she's not just a character designer, she's one of the best animation directors at KyoAni.
For the retard who kept reiterating Kyoani isn't going to bankrupt, stop being retarded. Almost everyone knows that without you being so butthurt.
Only one faggot was stupid enough to say that here >>123318825 and he's probably from reddit.
Only retards listen to uninformed plebs.
Kyoani is basically the most successful studio outside of sunrise right now. And they are doing it without getting their balls squeezed by production committee.
They can choose what they want to do. Well this could be bad news for keyfags and haruhifags though, hahahaha.
If they are so good then why aren't they making the new Haruhi/Yukie anime?
Exactly. Kyoani has their own fate in hands post Hyouka by heading all the project themselves.
Amagi is the only outlier because they are bff with Gatoh.
SHAFT is just aniplex bitch.
What about KnK movie?
Anyway, that's already 2 anime being produced simultaneously. Back in the day, they only do 1 at a time.
>Their schedule is pretty comfy actually
Their schedule might be better than the rest of the industry but still rough enough that an animator called it "hell". I wouldn't say it's "comfy" at all.
>With KyoAni handling more projects at a time, they need more experienced staff than ever.
But that's completely wrong? Just compare previous output to current.
2007: 4 consecutive cours (second half of Kanon 06, all of LS, first half of Clannad)
2014: 1 cours -> break -> 1 cours -> 1 cours, plus a short film
>>I'll gladly accept shit anime as long as Kyoani is the richest studio
Who are you quoting?
Being a kyoanifag, I still think that Chuu2 s2, KnK and Amagi are shit, especially Chuu2.
>You will never work in late 2000's Kyoani as an animator of Haruhi working closely with Aya.chan while lipsincing her lips to your handrawns.
>Losing several experienced animators in a short period of time can only hurt the quality of their production.
Hey, they lost Yamakan, which was probably their biggest talent at the time, and their shows today still look better than ever. So you'll have to excuse me if I think losing a few "up and coming" talents results in little more than a scratch on Kyoani's overall output.
Also, still waiting for that source of Horiguchi leaving Kyoani for good anon. Burden of proof is on you and one year later you still haven't given any hard evidence.
>Also how is KnK so bad?
The ending was unsatisfying. I like what they did in ep 10 and 11, the sunflower field was beautiful and all but the ending completely ruined it for me.
The last TV anime they had airing was Fall's Amaburi and that wasn't particularly heavy if you look at the general quality of the show compared to KyoAni's usual output. You can tell it was a low priority, as they'd have also been doing KnK movie two at the time.
>Their schedule might be better than the rest of the industry but still rough enough that an animator called it "hell". I wouldn't say it's "comfy" at all.
>Asking what her typical day was like, the blunt (and inadvertently hilarious) answer was: she gets in at 0930, works, has an hour for lunch, works, then leaves at 1830. This of course was a leader for the question as to whether KyoAni indulges in crunch time, or "killer weeks", which Jonathan explained was almost a policy for studios in Tokyo, with the women and married staff allowed to catch the last train home, while the single men were expected to work through the night.
>Naoko responded by saying that image of sleeping at your desk was so cool! But KyoAni was nothing like that and sometimes worked slightly longer hours but on the whole not. There was the unspoken question as to whether this was simply the company voice but it's certainly hard to fault the studio for its continuously superb quality of output, a question an audience member would follow up on later.
Its up to you whether or not to believe it. But considering it has been said time and time again that they're basically one of the most enviable studios in the industry with regards to working conditions, I'd assume it isn't anywhere near as bad as say, A-1 literally working somebody to death.
If you dont like knk, free or chuushit you dont have to watch it.
I know I didn't and I enjoy TLS nevertheless. Stay upset that your favorite studio is in a much worse condition than kyoani and produces flop after flop.
Jesus, what is /v/eddit doing here? Get the fuck out.
I dropped one of those and wanted to believe another one would pan out. Not sure how pointing out I can drop a shit anime is supposed to prove that I should be optimistic for their next one.
Well, I mean, that used to be Kyoani. And, I mean, something like Tamako's movie proves they have talented people there who can put out quality stuff still, but I'm past the point where the name "kyoani" already makes me optimistic. They've lost that faith.
>while the single men were expected to work through the night.
And then they get to take credit for really putting in the work and get the promotions while the others who worked hard don't. The system works.
>According to Dengeki Visual Arts magazine, Baba Takahiro, the President of Visual Arts, said he wanted to ask Kyoto Animation to produce Little Busters! anime, but Kyoto Animation has been quite busy in producing other titles and Visual Arts could not wait for their turn to come
Look,who was begging
Kyoani has a huge female staff ratio.
Let them do what they want.
There is no pleasing you guys.
>all they do is k-on
>then when they do something different
>sell out, kyoani is finished, bankruptcy imminent etcetc
>Kyoani has a huge female staff ratio.
Okay? Don't know how that' related to what I posted.
>Let them do what they want.
Sure. Doesn't mean I have to like it, though.
>There is no pleasing you guys.
I named something recent of theirs I liked a lot.
Did you mean to quote someone else, because your post confuses me otherwise.
They stopped pandering to you and instead focused on a less fickle audience.
Just embrace it. Don't let a fanbase hold you back from what you love. Just because they're acting like animals doesn't mean you have to climb the same tree.
>They stopped pandering to you
The Free! team is separate from their others, it seems to have been at least partially based at AniDo in Osaka (Utsumi, the director, is AniDo staff not Kyoani staff)
Daily reminder this is kyoani future project soon and the only title to receive a grand prize from them.
>As a result, we have elected to award a "Grand Prize" in the novel category for the first time in this 5th award. This work truly moved our judge's hearts. It was a work that made them feel "I want to send this out into the world." "I want a lot of people to read this." The judges also chose to award two encouragement awards to works that might have the possibility of upsetting the general notion of the award winners up until now.
>It's difficult to create something that is original, entertaining, and something that could be entertainment for others. However, we believe that there are works that will surmount those difficulties, capture a lot of peoples' hearts, and become magnificent stories.
That was because Vava didn't trust their VN being adapted nicely by any animation production but kyoAni.
Still I think he still does this since in certain tweets he said that he still begs Rewrite to be animated. And I think, he would not do this if it's not either kyoAni, or Sunrise.
She has nice lighting direction which is nice tbh.
Out of the key staff only the director is from AniDo. Free didn't have any particularly high ratio of AniDo staff working on it compared to the rest so I guess the label 'co-production' is only because of the director being in Osaka.
Haruhi is shit and you know it.
Kyoani has been getting better and better. Their animators have become more experienced, so they are masters of fluid and cute movement and sakuga. Their shows are cotton candy and icecream for the eyes.
They gave us Free and Free Eternal Summer and they are going to give us Free prologue movie so they are still good.
but really most of their recent shows are meh, I liked Amagi but Chuu-2 was garbage
That's because people call it gay despite never watching it.
Never forget the great stab in the back. The rats must be rooted out for this cowardly act.
Yamada drew Horiguchi.
Horiguchi drew Tamako.
And Horiguchi drew her self-insert character.
>there will never be an anime about KyoAni staff doing KyoAni staff things
Shirobako was nice and all, but I'd rather have that.
When will Kyoani try to move away from using k-on's chararacter design as a base for every single show they make? I get that their animators are used to it so they can get more average quality with it, but they are litterally the only sutdio that reuses character designs this much
But anon, Nichijou was a masterpiece. And Chuuni first season was also really enjoyable.
K-on had catchy music.
Though I must say that I fucking hated Hyōka.
And I couldn't care less about the new Haruhi filler. I guess the only ones that cared were people that REALLY liked disappearance Nagato.
Well yeah, OVAs usually have more fanservice.
I haven't seen it yet because there no BD rips, but from what I saw it's just comedy without any shitty drama, so it's probably much better than most of the main show.
I don't see how people say they're still good then point to sales as if that's an indicator of anything but decent pandering (Free! being the most blatant example).
The writing on their shows have been of a significantly lower quality ever since they started streamlining novel adaptions. If this new show is boring then I don't know how people will continue to defend them.
This one? Don't know if it got updated recently though.
It's not just them - basically every major studio has been inconsistent at best the last few years. There is no longer any studio that gets me hype when they announce a new project.
I remember there once being a portrait gallery of all of the classmembers from K-On, with just their faces and no hair. It was pretty surprising how different each person was made. Most studios wouldn't go to those lengths, especially for irrelevant background characters.
A string of top tier amazing shows at the start of their careers made them look like untouchable gods. It couldn't have lasted anyway.
It's sad that My Ordinary Life was their downfall series, it was an almost perfect show.
>it's popular therefore there can't be legitimate criticism of it
Ufotable's animation is garbage. People are dazzled by the digital effects, but that doesn't make it good animation. If your only rebuttal is "it's popular," then you know I'm right, you just don't like that I am.
Fujoshi are the most fickle fucks in existence. They have short memories and base their opinions on really small shit, so there's no fan loyalty. You could make T&B S2 right now, and there'd be a 50% chance they'd just ignore it.
They abandoned DRRR because Narita sunk their favorite ship (which to be honest wasn't even sailing in the first place).
Free isn't a long-running series so of course the hype will go down. On the verge of dying KyoAni can just create another fujoshi-pandering series, make cute-grills-do-cute-things anime with fujomoney, rinse and repeat.
This one is newer.
Free is by Nishiya (who also did Hyouka).
KnK and Amagi are by Kadowaki.
Vermin, vermin, vermin. You didn't make any points.
>I'll accept your apology, though.
On second thought, you conduct yourself improperly for me to just forgive you for shitting up this website. On your fucking knees and beg, mutt.
Firstly, that's an odd comparison because Kaiji is likely to only move people who are in or have been good-for-nothings.
Second, Hyouka's writing is for the easily entertaining. I wouldn't say that makes it bad, but having a vaguely interesting concept thinned out over the course of what, 22 episodes? It's liable to put some people right to sleep.
To be fair, ufotable's animation is above average and decent as far as anime goes, although that is not really saying much when you know how many shortcuts are taken with regards to animation in anime.
They get a decent blend of stills and occasional movement for the current focus character (i.e. the speaker) every few seconds, so that most people will not notice how static some of their scenes can be. Same goes with stuff like talking heads, most people don't realise that stuff like that is an animation shortcut.
Their digitial effects are some of the best in the industry and like you said, people are dazzled by them. Perhaps a bit too much, in that a shit load of effects and filters gets a lot of people who don't know what animation is, to regard such flashy effects as being enough.
I wouldn't say they are bad, but they are vastly overrated in the animation (movement of their characters) department, especially outside of action sequences, which do look fantastic.
Why will this never be an anime?
To be fair, ufotable's animation is great which above standard anime's quality. But I just don't really like their shot angles-- sometimes it hits, sometimes it fails a hard. SHAFT are the best animation studio which has great shot angles, too bad SHAFT are fucked up really bad with their time schedule.
You don't even have to be a faggot to find it enjoyable. It was pure silly fun with some cute friendship at the end.
Utsumi's style of direction truly shines the most in SoL comedy after all. She only needs to lay off the drama.
Kyoto "Kyoani" Animation is the greatest studio in the world.
Only the cutest studio can produce the cutest anime
I HATE most trap designs as they just design a loli a say there is a dick down there despite feminine body and growth
ATLEAST make it convincing by making them look male at one point
this is the truth. every anon is a cock craving slut, some just don't know it yet.
plus I'm an ERP faggot
I will patiently wait for the day Japan stops having shit taste and creates a trap with an Adam's apple + slightly broader shoulders. And maybe an armpit or leg shaving/waxing episode.
Same here. I fantasize about being a girl and getting fucked by guys at times, but there's no actual 3D guy I've ever been attracted enough to to want that. I just really like the idea. But I'm basically only into 2D boys.
Pretty much the same for me. At this point, I only read doujin/eromanga so I can self insert as the girl getting fucked, the sluttier the better. If 2D guys were real, I'd crave so much cock
>watching Haruhi for the first time
>for some reason always wanted to watch it but didn't
>Some scenes are so amazingly animated and so many things happen at once that I have to rewatch most scenes to fully apreciate them like if it were a movie
S..so this is the power of Kyoto Animation...
People can't be serious with that.
Munto had a whole bunch of problems, especially the lazy tv "port", so saying it was the fantasy setting would be a pretty assbackwards conclusion to draw. Besides, even that series was about a bunch of highschool girls at its core. Holy fuck, that shitty "I'll cross the river" episode.
I should watch that show. The screenshots are great.
>struggling to make ends neat
Is this a pun that I don’t get?
>It's just K-On with woodwinds/brass right?
1) that would be as good as K-On!, i.e. great
2) Because this isn’t a lighthearted sol comedy, or at least it would not be the main focus.
I would assume it was a back burner project pushed to the fore by an author (or authors) not wanting / negotiating for rights.
They may have easy access to these author's but they still have the final say. Rather than do nothing in the interim they'll do an original.
It’s not like they’re dogmatic about this. They prefer to do their own stuff but when something like Euphonium comes along they’ll happily take it if they like it. The novel is set in Uji, they’re the perfect studio to do this.
There was Tamako, not much else.
That's because somebody was making fun of the actual translated chart.
In the books he comments on Haruhi being attractive all the time, it's just her personality he doesn't like. Asahina's personality makes it easier for him to fawn over her but I doubt he actually had any actionable intention of being with her any further than that.