Yuri Kuma

I'd pull her twintails

The real OTP of the show.

Gesu is love.

>>123297410
She should have been more relevant, I love lesbians with twintails

>>123297410
does becoming a bear mean accepting your sexuality

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>>123297410
>Wanting anything to do with bears at all

>>123297661
It means coming out of the closet.

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>>123297570
If gesu could turn back into a human, would she be part robot still? I want to see that.

Please don't bully a nasty.

>>123297661
You could interpret it that way, but I felt like it's also becoming individualistic as opposed to collectivist like the girls of the invisible storm.

>>123297410
I liked this ending
These days (well all previous days probably too) you usually get some sort of open ending with random S2+ tease or "quick! we have to play it safe" ending or combination of both.
Yurikuma ending is the way it should be

>tfw kumaria-sama couldn't outsmart the mitsuko

>lovers suicide ending
I thought Ikuhara said he wasn't going to play straight 30 year old tropes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC8UkpAemtg

>>123297967
This and the OP and ED are up on nyaa. Some kind anon posted it the other day.

>>123297780
so from a wolf to a lioness to a bear

what next?

>>123297932
They didn't die, they ascended to yuri paradise.
Lulu and her otouto were in heaven, they would see Ginko and Kureha there if they were dead.

>>123297932
you know how ginko got shot through the door
they went through the door in the same manner to outer space

So, OST when?

>>123298091
April 24th.

>>123297932

Nigger nobody died, holy shit.

>>123297661
Bears and people are just 2 separate groups that hate each other and exist in constant conflict.

Kureha became a bear because she realized making Ginko into a human didn't solve anything and was just playing into the invisible storm. If pulling them over to your side doesn't fix anything, then cross over to their side.

Bears and people could be Capulets and Montagues, japanese and koreans, or any 2 groups of people that irrationally hate one another.

The schoolgirls were all gay as fuck, bears have nothing to do with sexual orientation.

>>123298118
I guess they went to heaven and came back 3 days later.

>>123298116
That's far enough to make me impatient but not enough to despair. Oh well.
>>123298118
Pretty sure Lulu did.

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>mfw this was basically the plot of shrek

>>123298135
>bears have nothing to do with sexual orientation.
heh

>>123298187
They bear some resemblance.

>>123298187
It actually was reverse meta LRRH with gay bears instead of wolves

>>123298135

i wish i could become korean

>>123298187
holy shit

>>123298118
Lulu was somewhat ambigious until they show her together with her dead little brother, it's made pretty obvious at least those two are in some sort of afterlife.
Kureha and Ginko is left open to interpretation.

>>123298187
Wasn't the plot of Shrek just getting his swamp back?

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This scene was unexpected and wonderful.

After seeing Kumalia-sama (even if it's a metaphor for love) I wonder how Sumika haters feel

>>123298282

Nah, she was just visiting his grave and telling him what happened.

My dignity was gone from the moment I wanted a Ginko plushie.

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>>123298294
Squirrel-chan is adorable, but my god that concentrated moe almost killed me

>>123298294
Perfect way to end the series.

>>123298341
Please do not do lewd things to Ginko plushie

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>>123298294
It's important to never give up on boxes.

>>123298294
it's the entire staff's favorite character(gesu)

YURI VALHALLA!

>>123298187
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking of Shrek when Kureha transformed

Why were Squirrel and Class Representative humans?

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>>123297680
I know, right? People actually believe that there's nothing unnatural about a human falling in love with a bear.

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>>123298376
I'll rub myself on it.

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>I found you.

>>123298332
It was not her. You know, just kinda like in Babylon 5 these...err what was the name again? Anyway ancient order guys show up and younger races see them as angels and deities of their choosing

>>123298447
They were just disguised as humans, like Lulu and Ginko (Ginko never actually became human).

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>>123297661
No, it means being trans-species.

Wasn't there a very old promotional image featuring the silhouette of the 3 bears shown at the end?! Why do I feel like I've seen it before?

>>123298447
Because they wanted to eat humans.

>>123298341
I actually ended up ordering both plushies.

Kureha bear plush when?

>>123298289
>>123298289
>People are irrationally afraid of ogres (bears) and think they're disgusting and must be eliminated
>Ends with a kiss that turns his princess into a full time ogre, Shrek originally thought she would be happier as a human
>But they're happier this way because love
>Fuck off to their swamp (yuri paradise)
>Sumika is Donkey

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Ikuhara start selling this ice grinder or you suck at marketing!

>>123298294
Somehow I called earlier in the episode twintails would be important, I don't know how but I think I have yuri intuition. When I saw her sitting at the computer I said to myself "This girl seems important"

If it was Kureha who gave up on love, why was Ginko in a court trial being told that stuff about forgetting here and her giving up on love?

Trials are so confusing, like the rest of the series when Kureha got several calls and fell rolling to the court but Ginko and Lulu were the ones to show up before the judges.

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>>123297680
Consorting with bears will get you killed.

>>123298602
Really? Wasn't that like +200$?

>>123298361
>>123298294

So basically:

Konomi was a lesbian who hid her tendencies and became Yurizono's underling, but was exposed. Instead of being kicked out she started ratting out the other lesbains because she was a coward, and the girls let her stick around because she was useful, symbolized by them using her as a cyborg weapon. After Ginko and Kureha left she was abandoned again, but twintails ended up falling for her in the end.

How happy.

>>123298731
The trial where Ginko chose to forget Kureha never happened, it was just shown to us to go along with Lulu's (incorrect guess) that that was what had happened. Also, Kureha never gave up on love, she "relinquished what was most important to her," which happened to be her love with Ginko and therefore her memories.

>>123298447
Chipmunk was a human because she went to yuri court to promise her love for Yurizono.
Turns out not all love is meant to be and Yurizono was a top bitch, so she died and lost but lucky her she came back as a cyborg bear and found new love in someone with an ungodly fetish for cyborg bears who are also girls.

Yurizono was a human because she wanted to fuck everyone in the school.

>>123298731
>If it was Kureha who gave up on love, why was Ginko in a court trial being told that stuff about forgetting here and her giving up on love?

That was part of the story Lulu told Kureha, it never actually happened. A lot of the flashbacks are events that particular characters think might have happened this way but there is no guarantee they actually did.

>>123298749
>Geshu
>Dead

>>123298731
Ginko and Lulu were actually going to court to see if it was okay to kill whoever was the head of the Invisible Storm in the first and second episode at least. That way they could protect Kureha by murdering whoever hurt her feelings.

>>123298332
I'm sick of seeing her.

>>123298828
She was killed in episode 2.

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>>123298638
>Sumika is Donkey

>>123298754
They were about $110 together. I'm dreading the shipping costs, which might just put it in that ballpark.

>>123297930
>>123298332

>>123298874
She came back through anti-yuri science.

>>123298477
That's bestiality!

>>123298332
I'm happy she's the new goddess of yuri

>>123298898
Nice, lucky. They were more expensive where I found them, I'll search better.

>>123298956
A walking and talking corpse is still a corpse.

>>123298999
>talking
Well

>tfw you will never save Lulu from death
Feels bad, man.

>>123298999
So if twintails fucks and loves that corpse you're gonna be the one to tell her she's a necrophiliac? That sounds a bit exclusionary to me.

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Time to wait four more years for another show from Ikuhara.

I teared up when I saw Lulu with her little brother.

In fact, the entire credits sequence was absolutely beautiful.

I was expecting Ikuhara to betray me
but things went better than expected

how is penguindrum ?
is it better than Utena ?
also, do you consider YKA was better than Utena ?

>>123298999
It is my impression that corpses do not talk, anon

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>>123298968
Yuri for the yuri god!
Bears for the bear throne!

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Do you think Yuriika met up with Reia when she went to bear heaven?

>>123299356
Nothing is better than Utena

Utena is the best, Penguindrum is close, YKA is a worthy addition to the catalog but not quite as good as Penguindrum.

>>123297410
Twintail-chan was cute, too bad that she is a degenerate now.

>>123299437
but Reia never left her

>>123299356
Most people agree that Utena is the best thing he's ever made.
I think Penguindrum is as good as YKA, but they both have their strengths and weaknesses.

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>>123299147
Anyone who can't follow social cues, like for example "don't fuck dead animals," must be excluded.

So the invisible storm was homophobia?

That ending made me so sad :(


the invisible storm is the cruelest thing


>Butterfly-chan allowed to LIVE

:(

>>123299437
She gave up on love, so she's probably going on the the demon mask elevator to hell.

>>123299549
That is some weak-ass reverse trolling

>>123299547
It was any societal construct that encourages conformity and discourages free speech.

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>>123299547
No, they spell it out for you at the very end.

>>123299589
fuck butterfly chan i hope she gets cancer and dies.

I'm not trolling. SHE is evil.

>>123299547

it was groupthink.

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>>123298187
Bears are like onions

>>123299547
The invisible storm could be the circlejerking on /a/ and reddit

>>123299547
At this point if you don't already know what the invisible storm was, you shouldn't even bother trying to watch anything that involves metaphors or symbolism since you clearly will never get it.

>>123299468
Chouko, please go

>>123299649
LULU

GET OUT O' MY HOUSE

>>123299680
Hey, being a bear loving scum is super heretical

>>123299732
I can't help it if the bears are that cute.

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>>123299640
Mitsuko was even more evil and sluttier. Too bad she was trapped in such a shit series because she was so much fun to watch.

>>123298749
fuck butterfly chan. throw her off a building >:(

the ultimate big bad was her all along. just another identical leader of the invisible storm. a nobody who will never matter, who will be forgotten when bears eat her and she is immediately replaced like all her predecessors.

>>123299770
Mitsuko was the best villain. It's a shame she died so early.

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>>123299755
Would you give your body over to the bears?

I kind of feel like Ikuhara does these sorts of endings because he doesn't really know how to properly end a story in a way that doesn't involve the wall between reality and fantasy breaking down. Now, in this series, the wall was never particularly strong, when he uses fantasy as a deus ex machina, it isn't particularly interesting.

I mean, Kureha knew Ginko for maybe a few months as a very young child. But the plot basically made it incumbent on her to return Ginko's love even though she really barely even knew her. Are they just going to skip merrily through the sky-world together for the rest of eternity? Is that really a good ending? What about the fact that no matter whether Sumika was really Kumaria, Ginko still let her die? I don't know about you, but even if I had some sort of childhood tryst with a girl, if I forgot about her (like most people forget about friends they had when they were 5) and found out that she stood by while the woman I currently loved was killed and did nothing, I don't see how I could ever even LOOK at her, let alone love her again.

I really want to like the ending, but it just feels wrong. It's not just because its surreal - Penguindrum and Utena were like that, but at least there, there was a sense of reasonableness. Shouma came to love Ringo and sacrificed himself for her; Kanba had his love returned, but he still had to pay for all the people he killed.

>>123299812
i'm so glad they kept dieing. immediately hated each one of them after their heel turn, each time.

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So aside Chouko and Tomboy, did anyone else lose?

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>>123299795
>emoticon
I think that it's time for you to be excluded, anon.

>>123299844
no it's not a good ending, it's bittersweet. it's depressing and cruel.

And I appreciate it.

>>123299872
Headband.
And Butterfly won in the end.

>>123299872
Yurika lost pretty hard.

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Is Utena really that good?
Gotta say, I can't see anything topping Penguindrum in my opinion for a long time.
It already feels bad to know I'll never be able to see Penguindrum for the first time again.

>>123299770
Hopefully Aoi Yuuki gets more villain roles in the future.

>>123299894
i hope you get eaten by a bear

>>123298332
I'm curious by the way things played out who REALLY won the Kurebowl, Ginko or Sumika. Kreuha saying Sumika taught her she was looking for "true love", not sure how to interpret that. Plus Sumika coming down as the yuri goddess (even though it probably wasn't really her) I wonder Kureha will be banging her behind Ginko's back or it just becomes a 3 way relationship.

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>>123298187

DONKEY KASHIKOI

>>123299818
Would it feel good? If it would, of course.

>>123299812
Her best performance was after death, though. That scene when she acts as Ginko's desire is one of the best of the entire show.

>>123299844
I think you're taking the plot of the series too literally when it's meant to be abstract and surreal in the first place. Like in all Ikuhara shows, the development of the themes take precedence over plot consistency or characterization.

>I kind of feel like Ikuhara does these sorts of endings because he doesn't really know how to properly end a story in a way that doesn't involve the wall between reality and fantasy breaking down.
This didn't really happen in MPD.

I think it's kind of disappointing how many people think this show was some super transparent crusade for the homos.

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>>123299872
Yuriika lost her bride-in-the-box.

>>123299942
Yurika got to see "Reia" find her again so I dont think she felt like she lost in the end.

>>123299640
She did what she must, bears were eating her friends.

>>123299939
Butterfly once again showing her competence in getting the job done.

>>123299946
>Is Utena really that good?
It's a masterpiece. If you liked Penguindrum and this, you'll love it, so go watch it.

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Anyone else feel like this was originally planned as a two-cour show?

I feel like this fucker definitely was supposed to have more plot significance at some point.

>Reia meets Yuriika
>"I found you"
>Reia teaches Yuriika never to give up on love

>Twintails meets Konomi
>"I found you"

And the cycle continues

>>123300029
they all deserve it. i fuckin hate them they're all horrible. get eat by bears.

>>123300000
quints can't be wrong

>>123299844
I feel like the entire show was more surreal, so I don't know if you can complain that the ending was any more surreal than expected.

So,,, if Lulu and her brother were in,,, heaven? where are Hinko and Kureha? I was confused.

>>123300064
I sort of doubt it, and if it was they did a really good job of bringing it down to one cour.

>>123300070
The parallel was more to the scene where Kureha meets Ginko. In this case, it's Kureha's example that will continue to widen the cracks in the invisible society, as more and more girls don't back down on love and even dare to love bears.

>>123300086
it was a show about emotion and a very specific CONCEPT. It's also very EFFECTIVELY delivered.

>>123300025
see
>>123300015

So is being a bear just magic talk for being a gay homosexual gay person who is a homo?

>>123298495
This. Mitsuko was also obviously not actually a ghost. It makes sense to represent those concepts (desire for Mitsuko, true love for Sumika) as people who are connected to those concepts.

>>123300000

That's EXACTLY what happened in MPD. The entire ending scenario is about as surreal as the ending of 2001 with the hotel and the space tunnel.

>>123300064
It's one of those shows that would have worked really well with 15-18 episodes, but suffered from anime only being allowed to have 11-13 or 22-26 episodes.
This happens way too often.

>>123300091
Ginko and Kureha died and went to heaven.

>"I'll ruin bears!"
>Becomes bear

It's like how many of today's super homophobic nutjobs turn out to be the gayest of the gay

>>123300127
Which you know, was just a substitute for Reia's love in the first place.

>>123300163
Stop saying it it makes me sad :(

>>123300137
Yes, the ending is surreal, but thematically it is not about escaping the walls of fantasy in the same way that Utena and YKA are.

>>123300086

It was, but I'm not objecting to the surrealness in itself, just the fact that it was used as a cop-out so the characters would move as the plot required. Kureha shouldn't have forgiven Ginko so easily, it doesn't make any sense.

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>>123299872
I wouldn't say Chouko lost.
But Tomboy, Side ponytail-chan, Yuriika and headband-chan all lost pretty hard.
Arguably Mitsuko lost twice (once as a human, once as Ginko's desire)

And Life Cool lost every trial.

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>>123300197
Everyone's dead except for Squirrel and Butterfly.

>>123300163
Then, where are Lulu and her brother?

>>123300155
I actually do think it could have afforded to be longer. I feel like I was lacking emotional investment in the characters, particularly side characters, because we didn't get enough time to get to know them.

>>123300235
well when you put it that way i feel better, except about butterfly being alive. (She would have been immediately replaced like all the others were, because that's what the invisible storm is)

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>>123300216
He actually won once, when Lulu spilled the beans about going to court.

>>123299946
>>123300054
I'm just going to say it.
I liked Penquindrum more than Utena.

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>>123300116
Whoops. Forgot to add that scene to the greentext. Makes sense too. The ideas of never giving up on love constantly being passed down. Reia > Kureha > Twintails watching Kureha and Ginko

>>123300256
also dead and in heaven

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>did nothing wrong.

>>123300199

Okay, not "fantasy" then. But the fact that the characters problems all have to be worked out using bizarre symbolic imagery is basically what happens in all his stuff. I think it was more effectively done in MPD, but even there, it was overdone.

>>123300256
Bears heaven

>>123300286
And eventually she will be. The only people who were capable of participating in the storm but not be in danger of being consumed by it were those, like Mitsuko, who knew the whole thing was a sham and used it to their own ends.

Butterfly's on borrowed time.

>>123300344
>ate sumika

sumika the dead fucking dead

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>>123300327
Really, I could imagine any of his three originals being someone's favorite since they're all very good. It's all a matter of what speaks to you personally.

So is there actually no magic in anything and everything is just symbolic imagery for grounded real life problems?
I guess this applies for all his stuff.

>>123300379
ova where butterfly gets eaten by cyber bear plz

>>123300364
I think most people are drawn to that aspect of his works because it's what differentiates him from other directors of TV anime and makes his shows so interesting and endearing.

Theory: is ep4 the better first episode for the show? (the lulu princess episode) I didnt REALLY love the show until then

>>123299356

Utena > Penguindrum > Yurikuma

All good shows.

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The ending is really just this, straight from Morishima Akiko.

>>123300510
The first episode did an amazing job of setting the stage.
I liked it more than both Utena and Penguindrum's first episodes.

>>123300510
I thought the 4th episode was the best too.

Now that it's over, what would you rate YKA?

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That character song album number

My fucking sides

>>123300633
OK/10

I can't say I cared for most of the characters, but I was interested enough to keep on watching it.

>>123300633
4/5, I loved it.

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>>123300440
I agree absolutely. I honestly cannot chose between the two series. Like for me Utena was just a real masterpiece that nothing else can touch, but the fact Penguindrum really struck a chord with me personally makes it impossible for me to properly compare or chose between the two series. If that makes any sense?

>>123300633
8/10

>>123300510
Nah, I think the humorous tone of it doesn't work well until the overall tone was already established.

The rest of the show would just feel weird if it started off with that.

>>123300484

The thing is, he always kicks it into overdrive at the end. I guess it depends on what you think of ambiguous endings - I tend not to like them, which is why I'm much less satisfied with how he ends things than how he sets things up.

Like, between the last two episodes of Eva and EoE, which are two different interpretations of the same events, Ikuhara always gives us the last two episodes treatment. Just once, I want him to know what the shit I'm seeing actually means.

>>123300582
ep 1 sets the stage, but ep 4 sets the mood.

>>123300633
8.5/10. I loved it and I'm sure I'll gain an even greater appreciation of it after several rewatches.

>Still waiting on Asenshi
Fuck

>>123300633

8/10

Penguindrum was a 10 though, so it feel more like a 7 by comparison.

So, was this show good or bad? I've held it off since watching the first episode.

>>123300633
8/10 was fun, not the best but really good.

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>>123300510
I wouldn't say it's a better first episode, but it's my favorite episode from the series and one of my favorite episodes from any of Ikuhara's shows (along with Penguindrum episode 9 and Wakaba's duel episode)

>>123300197

>:(

Stop that.

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>>123300742
Almost there, anon

>>123300709
True, it's what really gave the show its storybook vibes that carried through to the end, but I was just so fascinated with the general visual design and style of the world by the first episode I feel like it would have been a waste starting it in a different setting. Plus, starting the show with an episode focused on a side character would've hurt the pacing quite a bit.