>Araragi states numerous times that Hanekawa is the perfect women
>only ever says he likes Senjougahara for her abrasive bitch personality
Remind me again, why does Araragi put up with crab? She's pretty shit.
>mfw low-test betas like the abrasive attitude of crab
>mfw high-test alphas like cat
Because Araragi was worthless virgin who thought no girls love him so when a girl wants to be his gf, he immediately ok with it and stuck with her till now because he knows if he dump her he'll be in deep shit. Araragi now just cope with her regretting his past decision.
> Remind me again, why does Araragi put up with crab?
Araragi is an idiot that’s stuck in his puberty.
His libido, repressed by the strict Japanese mentality, forces him to imagine a juvenile girl who he fondles whenever he wants in his ‘dreams’ throughout the series, except the last ones when he gets used to it. One of his little sisters would appreciate his intentions, but not the harsh way he does it. Thus Araragi’s sexual energy has no ventage, and that probably makes him masturbate 17 times per day, leaving him exhausted so much that he can’t act properly in new series, which makes Shaft postpone Kizu yet longer and longer.
Hanekawa said that she’ll hate him forever if he uses the ticket to touch her breasts, while Hitagi told him she’d change his diapers. Just imagine what it looked like in semen-intoxified Araragi’s brain.
Because crab is flawed, human and interesting.
Likeable? Fuck no.
But if I was in the shoes of Araragi, I wouldn't pick the literal "perfect girl". It's not only suspicious, but it gets old fast.
Why don't you try worshipping an actual God instead?
Is she the biggest cuck in anime?
Does she enjoy it? She did want monkey to tease RRRG in Bakemono.
Nah I guess she just enjoys thinking what face RRRG would make if she caught him in something like that. Old Gahara at least.
>yfw you realize that crab is actually full dere
>the only tsundere in the series is snail
Official god tier ranking snake>bat >mumaragi>ougi>bee=monkey=phoenix>corpse>snail>cat>crab
p-good taste, but I'd still place snail a lot higher than that. She may be tsundere, but she's still really loving and fun. There are basically no scenes with Snail that aren't memorable
Snail is best girl. You don't need to make excuses for her.
Black Hanekawa is god tier in Kuro though
You mean Shiro? I think she's great in both though.
>you realize that crab is actually full dere
Even that isn't sufficient to be a cuck. A cuck is someone who remains in a relationship with their significant other after finding out they are unfaithful.
It's also used on places like /pol/ to refer to white men that marry outside of their race and adopt non-white children, even if there are no signs of infidelity.
She is now.
>To put it simply, Senjougahara Hitagi has turned dere.
>To the point where even Karen can't match up to her in terms of dere.
Look up cetranslation snippet of nisemonogatari. 4chan won't let me link.
Araragi is just afraid that Crab will staple his balls to his eyelids. He then subconsciously mistakes this fear for love. Classic Stockholm Syndrome.
Cat best girl.
It's really simple, but no one ever seems to understand the point of *monogatari. Hopefully we all at least realize that the "abberations" are literary incarnations of mental illnesses.
Araragi's vampirism is a sex/porn addiction. He is almost over it, and not getting involved physically with Hanekawa is a big part of maintaining that. He says himself, as you point out, that Hanekawa is his ideal woman. The problem is that he would lose all the self control he has built up if he became involved with her.
There's another side of this, though. Araragi has developed a femdom fetish that only Senjougahara can satisfy. By dominating him, she satisfies his urges in a healthy way that doesn't cause a relapse. He has learned to enjoy having his sexuality controlled by someone else, because on his own he can't really control himself.
Senjougahara and Araragi are literally a perfect couple even though both of them are far from perfect as individuals. I think the depiction of their relationship is actually quite an achievement. It's the most believable case of "destined lovers" I've ever seen, because it actually makes me understand why they are perfect for each other without requiring them to be fairy tale princes and princesses.
Crab too good. Best girl.
All the monogatari girls are top tier though. The reason Crab wins is because she saves herself rather than Araragi doing all the work, as well has having chemistry with Shuraragi.
Snail and Crab have the most chemistry with Araragi and are best girls
>Araragi has developed a femdom fetish that only Senjougahara can satisfy.
"femdom" is a bit too much. She doesn't even berate him like she used to do before anymore. Bitch got domesticated after she took his D.
Psychological moments in monogatari are undeniable but your interpretation of the whole thing is just absurd.
The series is basically the author's delusion of what his world would be if he ever encounters such psychological enigma in his life. Same goes to his other logical reasoning/deduction based novels.
Over time Araragi and Senjougahara mature as people and mellow out. Characters in *monogatari have never been static. By now Araragi doesn't require nearly so much force to keep himself in line. But the time he and Senjougahara shared has brought them even closer, much more so than he could be with anyone else.
However, it's still good for him to know that Senjougahara would literally kill him rather than let him be with someone else. It prevents a relapse. Like a recovered alcoholic, he can never go back.
Jesus Christ, I didn't know there was so much left to watch! I've only seen Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari.
I've got to finish
Kill la Killfirst though, I don't like watching more than one series at a time.
Crab is simply the best. Behind her strong exterior there's a fragile girl that just wants to be loved
Also she is dependable and cares about those she loves. The way she declares what she needs or wants makes my heart penis twitch. When she confessed her love I got goosebumps and startend feeling hot and cold... Crab is a gift to us filthy 3D pigs.
Thank you based Shaft.
Thank you based kami-sama.
>However, it's still good for him to know that Senjougahara would literally kill him rather than let him be with someone else
Why does she let him cuck her with other girls if that is true?
I'm not sure what you mean. I agree that the series is the author's exploration of abnormal psychology with fanciful manifestations, but it looks like our point of departure is on what Araragi's ailment was before he "recovered from beimg a vampire." Myself and many others seem to agree that Araragi's internal struggle has something to do with repressing his sex drive. Since Araragi's vampirism was certainly an abberation, it seems clear that its psychological counterpart would be the main struggle in Araragi's mind.
Because there is never any risk of him leaving her. The point is that she is in control of how he can express his sexuality. She's not tryimg to torture him by preventing him from even flirting, for gods sake! He has just agreed that she should be the one holding the keys in case he can't trust his own judgement. Essentially Senjougahara is his moral canary. As long as she is around, Araragi can believe in his own sense of right and wrong.
Not by far. Araragi was just playing around with his sisters and Hachikuji, judging by the nuances Nisio left in his writings. If he ever have that struggle, he would have lose his cool when
being left alone with Ougi in the classroom that evening. Like I said, while you are free to interpret the whole thing to your like, the actual thing doesn't come intact with your deduction for the characters.
Also, this what happens when Shaft omit that one Araragi's remark on his relationship with the girls from Kabuki anime. Casual people will never learn about his thought on those waifus.
Can monkeyfags please stop shitting up every gatari thread?
Snail was gone before the talisman ever made its way to RRRG.
Also, I think there needs to be a special procedure to turn one type of kaii into another. There didn't need to be with Snake because she was a normal human to start out with.
While reading another Nisio book I realized that the situation described was very similar to that of Araragi and Hanekawa at the end of Neko Black. Basically it comes down to this.
>Hanekawa can't save herself
>Hanekawa didn't even seem to want to save herself, didn't even ask for help.
>If she were to become Araragi's girlfriend Araragi wouldn't be able to not help her so she would never have to face her problems by herself.
In other words: You have to love yourself in order for someone else to love you.
oh yes, I got them mixed up
I really like Black Hanekawa, but I like her best when she's started to work alongside Hanekawa rather than just fucking shit up for stress release. Before that she was cute and hot, after that she was cute, hot and likable.
Hanekawa got more likable too after she merged with Black Hanekawa, but she's still not as likable.
I think he enjoys the pseudo torture. Like when she's got him locked up and is tormenting him with the water once he knows Karen is in danger he breaks the fucking chains like a boss.
He enjoys that shit. Some guys are just like that I guess.
Because Crab would be okay with him fucking Cat.
I actually thought she Hotaru from Non Non Biyori from the thumbnail. There's something weird about her face too. It just doesn't look right.
>shitting up the thread with best girl
I'm just improving the thread's general quality.
can't you just post her without shitting everywhere
here, have a peace offering
It's usually more a grudge between monkey and snake fags
>The reason Crab wins is because she saves herself
To be fair, all of them do eventually. Araragi can't actually save any of them, so all girls other than Hitagi end up having more than one arc in order for them to clear up their own problem, even if doing so requires some assistance.
Hitagi was just the only one who did it immediately.
rrrg isn't man enough to take a girl with issues and baggage. Gotta play it safe, no fun, no fun at all.
Because a relationship with cat would be boring and uneventful. hanekawa working through her issues without getting what she wants is what created her interesting character moments.
Senjougahara's wild gyration between tenderness and callous brutality on the other hand creates enjoyable situations almost whenever she's on screen.
At least in the anime (haven't read the source material) it was made pretty clear that the characters can be whatever the author wants them to be at any given time so Ararararara puts up with whatever the author believes to be best for the show.
Watched the entirety of this overrated pseudo-intellectual faggot franchise because the visuals were enough to carry me through the absolutely pointless Nisioisin verbal diarrhea self-fellatio dialogue
Determined crab was worst girl, could not understand the appeal. Araragi is just a beta cuck who puts up with her retarded shit even though he essentially has a harem
He put up with crab issues for a while before she went dere:
>For example, she will call me randomly without rhyme or reason (even though she used to reject my calls depending on her mood). She will mail me messages with emoticons in them (even though all she had done till then was to send me spam). She even addresses me by a really cute nickname (even though my nicknames were nothing more than all sorts of venomous words by her). However, all of that is just the beginning.
>She will no longer crush flowers when she sees them.
>Nor will she step on insects.
>She will not start her sentences with harsh words.
>She will honestly praise the good and beautiful things that she sees.
>The way in which she uses stationery has changed back to the way it should be.
>And of course, that does not apply for only the stationery. She'd take out the fruit peeler in an attempt to peel my skin off should I say anything bad about the dishes she made — she no longer does things like that as well.
>the show is pseudo-intellectual because it uses entry level philosophy
Don't be angry because you are too retarded to be able to understand even that.
>stop bullying me
>calls another anon autistic
>calls people masochistic turds
you're a special kind of person anon
No, you don't understand the term. Cuckold implies that the person is ok with their significant other fucking another person. The ones that seem in such a position is the rest of the harem.
But he would had walked her home roughly. Cat is for tender loving.
>So, japan is full of rapists?
with good taste I might add
>Ever had an intimate moment with a girl
>loving someone just because they are perfect
Anon, you love someone despite their flaws not because they have none.
How does Snake's haircut even works? Are there any real life examples of people with pasta-like hair strands like that? I'm assuming it wouldn't be possible without using sprays or some shit.
>Ever had an intimate moment with a girl
They are just dreadlocks with a different shape. If Snake was a real girl she would be one of those smelly hippies like pic related who never wash their hair in order to maintain it.
Crab has sufficient pity points to compete with Cat, and Hanekawa only tried to play after she already lost.
Also, RRRgi isn't a prick, like OP, so he's not going to break up with the girl as lonely as him who asked him out.
Why do you even care about this?
You should be focused on character development and seeing how the girls become able to deal with life without RRRgi .
That's why he started dating Crab at the very beginning, so you wouldn't even have to worry about who wins or loses.
Even Crab agrees that Hane's Kawas are superior.
Now that I'm thinking about it:
All apparitions seen thus far are thrown into a deathmatch: Who wins?
If they possess someone assume that they are in through that person (so the Cat has Hanekawa's body to use, etc.). No anti-apparition swords either.
Hanekawa was better with long hair and glasses. Prove me wrong, faggots. Oh wait, you can't.
Loli cat a qt.
>tripfag with shit taste
Her short fluffy hair looks a lot cuter, specially Black Hanekawa's. She's one of the few girls that pulls short hair just fine.
Terrible taste, pls.
Worst taste. This is the only time her hair should be long.
Alpha's 100% prefer Cat. That sharp knife in her head doesn't scare us in the least.
Final form hanekawa with glasses might be the best potential hanekawa, although we don't see it in the series.
No need to state the obvious.
I'm intrigued to say the least.
Hanekawa is literally made for breeding.
Jokes on you there is only
Real men know a real woman when they see her.
>you'll never have a loli-vampire-overlord give up her immortality and status as a god to spend the remaining centuries of her life in your bicycle basket as you ride around post-apocolyptic japan
why even live
Choosing love over power...
She has a good heart.
Also great taste in desert.
That's fanart for you.
She wasn't raped by her stepdad. He just hit her a couple of times. She says she's a virgin in Kizu.
They need to fucking fuck. I'm tired of seeing Hanekawa sprawled out in post masturbation obscenity.
Not really, but they should still fuck.
I think Kanbaru is smarter than she appears when she says she thinks Araragi is going to marry her.
>He thinks Kanbaru is right.
>He ignores what Araragi said.
I suppose that's true.
That's not an excuse to save shit fanart though. No one is forcing you to do that.
That's not a good example.
kanbaru thinkgs he would be better with cat
both the sisters were suprised he wasnt dating cat
cat threatens to go out with araragi and scares crab that way
like everyone knows they would be better together
When the sisters were surprised, they didn't know that Crab existed. Kanbaru is still a lesbo who wants Crab. Cat got turned down so I guess she has to go out with me then.
Araragi probably would have ended up with cat if Neko Kuro hadn't happened. He was seriously considering whether or not he was in love with her at the beginning and he was really disillusioned when he realized that Black Hanekawa was just as much Hanekawa as the normal one.
I'm not sure if it's just because of the disillusionment or something more complicated that he declares that he doesn't love her at the end of Neko Kuro.
Over the course of the SS these views that other characters had on the Araragi/Hitagi relationship change.
Hanekawa herself mentions while she's spending time with Crab how she now understands why she's capable of dating someone like Araragi (Which give a hint on her own inferiority complex).
Tsukihi then mentions how Crab is the ideal girlfriend for Araragi and then Kaiki finally says how Araragi is the one who is good for Gahara.
Even if there was not a single interaction between Crab and Ararargi for the entirety of the SS, these little snippets from other characters show that they compliment each other pretty well.
Actually, the words he used was that it was better that way for him to "not love her". He, like she, didn't have the courage to step up and they danced around each other. See the commentary for Tsubasa Cat.
There was also him being flustered and wondering what type of guy she likes in Bake. There was also the part where he didn't fight back against her kissing him, despite having a girlfriend.
So the truth of the matter is that he does love Hitagi NOW more than he loves her. But he still does love her. That is irrefutable. Their relationship changed over the course of the series, but it never stops being strong.
There was an aside in Owari that the guy literally grabs her legs and bawls like a baby at the airport begging her not to leave when she takes her trip around the world.
>There was an aside in Owari that the guy literally grabs her legs and bawls like a baby at the airport...
Yeah, I've heard about the scene and I want to see it animated.
Basically, he still 'loves her' in the sense that he's attracted to her (not just physically) and it could become a romance if he didn't resist his feelings. But after Neko Black he makes a conscious effort not to let it come to fruition.
It always bothered me how RRRG is a classic 'dense protagonist' in Tsubasa cat, but his denseness also comes from missing signs you normally wouldn't because he tries not regard her romantically.
Superior Taste. You two are indeed my brothers.
That ueda style is so good. Also, can't wait to see more of Gaen in Owari.
I can't wait for her and Kiss-shot to become the best of friends. It's just not a nice relationship when Gaen is the one being relied on. It creates "Bad Balance" ya know?
All girls are best girl, except snake who is shit.
Bat is best of the best.
Prove me wrong. You can't.
I wonder what other words she'll think 'sound dirty.'
I wonder if the "Muchi Muchi" "Family Hate" thing is endemic to everyone in that family.
I am going to enjoy it so much if Tooe turns out to have the exact same trait of finding certain words to be "naughty"
Crab is not as interesting as her alter ego though.
There would be copious amounts of hugging.
Tell me, anon. Do you have the fortitude to withstand that many hugs?
I bet she accidentally sends them to her entire network of exorcists on occasion.
Good answer. Nearly 100% correct.
She wouldn't lower herself to taking nude selfies.
She'd obviously get them professionally done by someone who owes her a favor.
Tadatsuru just deletes the pictures since Gaen isn't man-made.
Yozuru saves it as blackmail so that she can get Gaen off her shit once in a while.
Meme just ignores the photo and never mentions it again but he "forgets" to delete them.
Kaiki obviously denies fapping to them and pretending that Izuko is a Fake Tooe and as such as good as the real thing.
What does it say about me if I'm a
femaleand crab is my favorite?
>watch monogatari when it first aired
>go back and rewatch it later on
>suddenly realize I somehow skipped the end of the hanekawa arc when it first aired (where she absorbs the tiger)
I don't see what the point of showing him die at the end Hitagi End was if they're going to show he lives just a few episodes later. It's even worse in the books, since Suruga Devil was released before Hitagi End. Why care about anything that happens in the 3rd season at all? We already know that RRRG won’t become a vampire, that his family and girlfriend will be safe and that Shinobu is still with him. There’s no tension, no real risk or danger at all.
We also know that Ougi doesn't get his/her ass kicked and that's the biggest crime of all.