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How can one character be so based?

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How can one character be so based?
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>>122959154
The threads are gonna be so shit with secondaries, normalfags, and the bloggers.
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>>122959154
Is "based" the new "edgy"?
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>/r9k/
>based
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>>122959154
What did he accomplished? other than being a self proclaimed loner when he's surrounded by popular girls, with their own circle (service club)

Sounds like generic LN protag to me.
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>>122959154
Based on what?
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I would have said he was acidic.
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>>122959154
Anon, quit your hero worship. That show was all about the girls.
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>>122959214
this
i demand a mod on all threads
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>>122959305
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Imoutos>wives
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>>122959220
>based
>new
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>>122959450
but imouto is my wife
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>>122959214
Try making the best of it and post LN spoilers in the S2 threads.
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One of the few shows where I was genuinely tempted by the cake.
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>>122959636
I'll try.
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He is dark like my soul
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>>122959154
is this a new maymay
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>>122959214
Don't forget the elitist faggots
Just wait, when the "secondaries" latch onto Iroha she suddenly won't be so popular anymore
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>>122959934
Hopefully spoilers will be enough to keep them out.
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>>122959154
But he's not Hayama
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He is so stoic and intelligent just like me! So based!
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Someone post that "I hate nice girls" speech
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>>122959781
>>122960264
samefag
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>>122959220
No, it's the new "epic".
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9 days to Season 2
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>>122959154
Because he's an idealized gary stu written for otaku to fantasize about being.

Every otaku wishes they could live a life where they genuinely didn't envy "normalfags" and could get through the day without stumbling over their words and making fools of themselves.
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>>122959154


Who else was the 8man of their highschool?
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>>122960432
>could get through the day without stumbling over their words and making fools of themselves.
It's easy to do that it you keep interaction with other people to a minimum and plan what you're going to say in advance.
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>>122959934
Someone sounds like a secondary.
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>>122960432
Not to mention getting surrounded by hot girls by doing nothing.
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>>122959154
He's intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
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>>122960502
>plan conversation in your head
>it actually goes pretty well
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>>122960576
good work anon keep it up
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>>122960505
Not that guy, but I'm no secondary and yet I must say that the fanbase of this show is more toxic towards secondaries than average. In my experience it's only topped by the Kantai Collection fanbase (they really fucking hate secondaries)
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>>122960576
It's a good feeling. You get better with practice too as you learn to anticipate what array of replies the person you're talking to might give and have responses prepared for each possibility.

It's autistic but it works for the majority of conversations.
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>>122960658
>toxic
>>>/tumblr/
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>>122960658
I'd say it's justified. Animeonlyfags tend to have poorer understandings of the characters and/or fuel more waifu wars.
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>>122961091
>muh animeonlyfags

You fucks are so easy to troll. Don't you realize you're just doing what the shitposters want with your fearmongering?
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>>122961013
Is "toxic" another word Tumblr have claimed?

>>122961091
Yeah, but that goes for secondaries in most fanbases. It's something you just grow to tolerate. But this fanbase just can't accept that. Between intentionally spoiling plot details to just generally being dicks, I've seen more threads ruined by primaries than actual waifu wars (although there have been a lot of waifu wars).
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Yui a shit. A SHIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT
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>>122961193
Fuck off secondary. Secondaries of any fanbase that has the source material easily available deserve to get shit on.
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>>122961306
Not everybody reads manga/LNs though. Surely you don't expect people to force themselves to engage with a medium they have no interest in? (let me guess, you do?)
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>people actually brag about reading shitty novels aimed at 15 year old jap schoolboys and look down on people who don't

Jesus christ, what a shitty fanbase.
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I
CAN'T
WAIT
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>>122961306
>proving my point
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who /secondary/ here? Gonna watch this and enjoy the fuck out of it fuck LNfags
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>>122961239
I find that hard to believe when it's the same shitposters spamming these Hachiman threads and Yui vs Yukino waifu wars.

Couple in the fact that apparently Hachiman as a character pisses off so many people on this board that they need to go out of their way to shitpost every thread. Also, the Gary Stu shitposter.

The only ones who scream self-insert, edgy, harem, wish-fulfillment bullshit are the animeonly fags and it shows. Not that I agree with this secondary bullshit spam, either.
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>>122961364
Yeah, these people are called retards.
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>>122960432
This.
Anyone who unironically calls 8man based is no older than 16.
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>>122961417
>Couple in the fact that apparently Hachiman as a character pisses off so many people on this board that they need to go out of their way to shitpost every thread

Have you considered the fact that a lot of people simply think he's a shitty, blatant wish-fulfilment character and are just voicing their opinion?
Why do you feel the need to throw a tantrum and scream NORMALFAGS/SECONDARIES/UMAD at anyone who doesn't suck 8man's dick like you?
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>>122961419
>not reading the otaku equivalents of a harlequin paperback makes someone a retard
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>>122961419
That doesn't really make sense though, like I read some books you are not interested in so I can call you a retard.
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>>122959154
>gary stu character
>Based


Good one
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>>122961364
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to be familiar with an easily accessible source material if they're discussing a given series, yes.
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>>122961611
>you are not interested
But the secondaries are interested in Yahari, why else would they watch the anime?
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>>122961666
Reading is for faggots, fuck off Satan.
This is an anime/manga board, not a shitty book board.
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there will never be a sensei end
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>>122961666
>you can only participate in adaption threads on /a/ if you have also read the source material
That's a shitty policy. I read manga, some people don't. I don't hold that against them.
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>>122961666
I think we should split the anime/manga/LN board so anime-only people can discuss in their own threads and no need to worry about spoilers.
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>being buttblasted because people want to enjoy the anime without wasting time on poorly-written books like you did

I can't wait for your tears of impotent rage when S2 rolls around, LNfags.
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>>122961785
Although a reasonable idea in theory, it would never work. /a/ is essentially one of the cornerstone boards of 4chan - there would be bloody murder.
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Has anyone actually tried discussing LNs on /lit/? I bet that would be hilarious.
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>>122961761
there will never be a shitpost-free thread ever
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>>122961554
>shitty, blatant wish-fulfilment character
Like every character in every anime ever, right? This argument doesn't mean really mean anything.

It's fine to have an opinion, but when you're so obnoxious about it that you have some obligation to shitpost in every thread because other people like characters you don't, it's fucking stupid.

And you can keep denying it all you want, but there IS thought put into his character as well as the others.

And yes, I don't agree with the secondary/normalfag/umad bullshit either as a LN reader. The last thing I want for these Oregairu threads is to become like the Fate threads.
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>>122961761
I really enjoyed that OVA. They more or less delivered exactly what I wanted.

>>122961851
>going to /lit/
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>>122961851


/lit/ only talks about GOOD books like Atlas Shrugged
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>>122961724
Maybe they are interested in the anime but not the original?
Like most people watch movies and discuss them without reading the originals?
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>>122961554
That said, can one still like a character despite the fact that they are a Gary Stu?
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>>122961368
This season is going to be so good I'm starting to feel guilty. I like I don't deserve it.
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>>122961872
>Like every character in every anime ever, right?
Actually, not at all. Not my fault that's the only kind of anime that you watch.

>And yes, I don't agree with the secondary/normalfag/umad bullshit either as a LN reader. The last thing I want for these Oregairu threads is to become like the Fate threads.

I guess you're alright then.
And yeah, the shitposting has been pretty bad but you can't just pinpoint it on one particular group of people.
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>>122961931
They obviously aren't interested enough to read the LN so why would spoilers bother them?
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>>122961925
>/lit/
>actually discussing books
Anon, /lit/ is a board where people compete to be the most pretentious. It's like /mu/, but at least /mu/ occasionally genuinely discusses music.
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>>122961946
Sure man.
As long as you don't identify with 8man too much and don't take him too seriously then you're good.
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>>122961872
Considering even the translator posts about how bad the anime threads are, we're already a step away from being Fate threads. It's just that there's typically an LN thread so people don't have to deal with those who only watched the anime and vice versa.
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>>122960331
*ahem*

This is gonna take a while.

> I hate nice girls. Just exchanging pleasantries makes me curious, and texting each other makes me feel restless. If I get a call, for the rest of the day, I'll keep checking my call history with a stupid grin on my face.

> But I know the truth: they are just being nice. Anyone nice to me is nice to others too. But I always find myself on the verge of forgetting that. If the truth is a cruel mistress, then a lie must be a nice girl. And so, niceness is a lie. I would always hold expectations; I would always misunderstand. At some point I stopped hoping: an experienced loner never falls for the same trap twice. A lone warrior, surviving hundreds of battles. When it comes to losing, I'm the strongest. That's why, no matter what happens, I will always hate nice girls.
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>>122962021
That's good. Because I enjoyed him as a character, but I'm well aware that such a person could never function in real life.
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>>122962014
Because season 2 is coming.

>>122962060
Aw, I wanted the video.

>>122961947
We don't. But that's not going to stop me enjoying it.
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Someone spoil me for S2
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>>122962060
>If I get a call, for the rest of the day, I'll keep checking my call history with a stupid grin on my face.
>I would always hold expectations; I would always misunderstand.

8man confirmed for closet normalfag, how the fuck has all of his fanboys managed to overlook this for all these years?
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>>122961366
Your statement might hold some weight if there weren't people who couldn't understand shitty novels aimed at 15 year old jap schoolboys.
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>>122961872
But how do you define between voicing an opinion and shitposting? Is there any difference?
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>>122962142


YUKINO IS BLIND
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>>122962149
How are you getting that from what you quoted?
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>>122962171
I KNEW IT!!
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>>122962142
Yui and Yukinon both get strong and popular alpha male boyfriends after getting bored and fed up with 8man's betaness and indecisiveness.
Yukinon's boyfriend is Hayama, while Yui gets some other guy.
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>>122962159
It doesn't really hold weight to begin with because he's dismissing something as bad without having read it to come to that conclusion.
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>>122962142
you get to see komachi's anger
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>>122962149
Anon, do you even understand 8man at all?
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>>122962211
How are you not getting that from what I quoted?
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>>122962291
Clearly he actually wants a nice girlfriend, but has convinced himself that it's impossible for him so he might as well stick with the loser role.
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>>122962142
First arc they go on a school trip and before that Tobe come to the service club because she want help confessing to Ebina. Ebina knows Tobe likes her but she doesn't like him back the same way and doesn't want to reject him so she separately asks 8man to do something about it. Shit happens, 8man and Yukino go out for ramen at night with sensei and the arc ends with 8man confessing to Ebina, getting rejected, preventing Tobe from doing so, and making Yui and Yukino mad in the process.
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>>122962303
How are you?
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>>122961975
>Actually, not at all. Not my fault that's the only kind of anime that you watch.
Give me a MC that isn't. I'm sure someone will give you a reason why he's a "shitty self-insert". That's why, I think it's a pointless label.

Either way, Hachiman is his own character and people are too busy spamming "muh edgy self-insert" to actually get a proper discussion about him.

>>122962160
The difference is that one aims to discuss, the other aims to shit up the thread.
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>>122962432
Ebina annoyed the fuck out of me in S1, seems like I'm skipping S2 after all.
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>>122961975
>Actually, not at all. Not my fault that's the only kind of anime that you watch.
nice opinion. Too bad you can't actually substatiate it.
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>>122962432
I fucked up that first sentence pretty bad.
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>>122960576
>>122960757
I'd say the best way to have it come naturally is to become extremely damn confident.

The easiest way is to start taking pride in the smallest things and using high-power body language.
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>>122959154
He is an edgy, pretentious faggot that I just happened to identify with because of his little loner flashbacks.
His sister is god-tier imouto material though.
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>>122962364
Essentially. But what you're misunderstanding is that many non-normies can't just delete their desire for a girlfriend even if they are living the polar opposite of a normie life.

In many cases people stop trying to be normies due to abject failure with girls.
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>>122959154
>people haven't read this LN yet

For what purpose? It's actually good and translations are fast and accurate.
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>>122962574
Because reading is for faggots.
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>>122962591
And watching cartoons isn't?
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>>122962591
Enjoy always being a filthy secondary.
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>>122962540
I'm bizarrely confident when talking to people because I've fully abandoned the normalfag life and don't give a shit about what people think of me. That said, I still plan my conversations as it just makes things easier.

>>122962574
It's not that great to be honest. There's nothing wrong with it, but if you're new to the franchise, with season 2 on the way you're probably just better off watching the anime.
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>>122962591
You're reading text right now.
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>>122959214
What else can you expect from that shitty OP?
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>>122962591
You speak Nip since you apparently don't read subs?
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>>122962627
I'll enjoy your tears LNfag.
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>>122962657
Anon, that OP was baiting us and we all fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

>>122962662
I thought once you've watched enough anime you stop processing subs by actually reading them/
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>>122962655
>implying I'm not blind and aren't using a text to speech program
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>>122962014
>why would spoilers bother them
Why did you suddenly bring up a point I never mentioned before? If someone gets spoilered here they are asking for it.
I was saying it doesn't make sense to call someone a retard just because they are not interested in your novels.
Did you read every single original of the anime you've watched? If you didn't, did you have an opinion? You sure you didn't discuss them at all?
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>>122959648
>One of the few shows where I was genuinely tempted by the cake.
this show had some very high class girls in it. Between Cake, Yui and Imoto there were some incredible options outside of Main girl.

And yes, best end for 8man would be cake.
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>>122962697
Enjoy the spoilers.
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>>122962718
>And yes, best end for 8man would be cake
Do Senseifags actually believe this?
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>>122962715
>If someone gets spoilered here they are asking for it.
But what if they just want to discuss the anime?

>>122962718
The cake was probably the best teacher I've seen in a highschool anime in a very long time. Her outfit did things to me.
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>>122962432
Note that Yui was implied to be getting ready to confess to 8man so 8man confessing to Ebina destroyed any chance of that happening.
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>>122962715
If it's not spoilers then what are the secondaries complaining about? And if the source is available in english I usually do read them.
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>>122962753
No. But it's nice to dream.
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>>122962149
>8man confirmed for closet normalfag, how the fuck has all of his fanboys managed to overlook this for all these years?
wait. what the fuck are you talking about?

The man hates nice girls for perfectly valid and rational reasons. Frankly he talks like 90% of /a/ all the fucking time. not just about nice girls but about people too. How does this make him a closet normal?

you know what. no point talking to you, you're clearly irrational.
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>>122962724
There are so many fake spoilers no one will know which ones are real until they actually show up in the episodes.
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>>122961851
Light Novel threads appear on occasion but don't last long because "muh shitty writing". While that's not an entirely false statement, it's still a form of literature and that in itself is a merit for discussion.

There are diamonds among the rough.
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>>122962785
I'm pretty sure other sites like MAL or reddit enforce spoiler free threads. They can go there or read the source.
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>want to self insert with 8man
>can't because I was actually a popular guy in high school who had tons of friends
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>>122962432
And at the end of the volume, Ebina admits that she could see herself in a relationship with Hachiman if she was ready to date. I loved that rooftop conversation scene.
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>>122962499
But you can't know what people are thinking, there's no difference just by seeing the content. It's just you agree with it or not. I can say OP's opinion is purposely shitposting too because I don't agree with it.
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>>122962919
Fuck off normalfag. Go kiss some girls or something!
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>>122962432
>Shit happens, 8man and Yukino go out for ramen at night with sensei and the arc ends with 8man confessing to Ebina, getting rejected, preventing Tobe from doing so, and making Yui and Yukino mad in the process.
you somehow missed the main point of that novel. bravo.

Yui was going to confess to 8man on that same trip. She made it 100% obvious to everyone including 8man. When 8man confessed to Ebina he preempted Yui's confession.

YES he solved the issue the club was asked to solve

He also broke Yui's heart, and made an enemy out of pretty much everyone, including the girls in the club. Even Yukino couldn't forgive him for what he did to Yui.
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>>122962919
>want to be call like all the /a/ outsider non-normies
>can't because I was the alpha dude in high-school who seduced the other guys sweethearts and took their virginities only to toss them all aside once I grew bored of them

Life is suffering.
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>>122962837
And you're a fucking idiot too, he doesn't hate nice girls, he hates himself for putting unreasonable expectations on them.
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>>122962876
I don't remember /a/ being solely for people who have read both the source material and the adaption of any franchise. There was a time when people were actually somewhat considerate about spoilers, believe it or not.

Or maybe it's just that this fanbase is particularly shitty.
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>>122959154

it's a non-gamer Kirito
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>>122963010
Haha, fucking Jap highschool drama, I can't take this series seriously because of shit like this.
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>>122962919
I've been in so many relationships that I grew bored of them and now choose to be alone.

I even have a waifu
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>>122962919
>implying 8man isn't a normal harem MC with an edgy otaku brain
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>>122963057
Anon, he most definitely hates nice girls. He gave very clear reasons as to why he hated them, and although he criticized the expectations he placed on them, that certainly didn't counter his hatred of them.
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>>122963130
>claims he hates nice girls
>still falls for them every time

He hates himself, not the girls.
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>>122963096
Evolution at its finest.
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>>122962753
>Do Senseifags actually believe this?

no, cake makes a great match only because she's the only character who seems to understand what 8man is doing and where he comes from. no one else grasps his character as clearly as she does.

>>122962785
>The cake was probably the best teacher I've seen in a highschool anime in a very long time. Her outfit did things to me.

Well, the character design doesn't really do it for me. but she does make me rock hard. then again i've always been a sucker for the xmas cake in any anime.
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>>122959154
I didn't like Holden Caulfield the first time I saw him.
I still don't.
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>>122962962
You can tell when all they do is shitpost with one liners and buzzwords like the OP. Also the frequency of said threads being made.
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>>122962724
>spoilers
>working

Have you been to Saenai threads?
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>>122963083
I witnessed a similar drama in hugh school. My friend liked a girl. She prevented him asking her out by saying she only dates Mormon boys. She still does to this day. she's not even Mormon she just wants fuck them
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>>122963130
No anon, use reading comprehension. In substance, basically everything negative in that whole monologue comes from himself and from the way he builds up common kindness into something specific to him, he hates how he reacts to them, what their interactions with him results in, but the core of the monologue is self-hatred.
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>>122963238
I have and I don't anymore. Not because of spoilers since I read the manga of the only arc I cared about but because the memesubs take so long.
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>>122963200
I've read Catcher but not Yahari, are they actually similar characters at all?
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>>122963194
>because she's the only character who seems to understand what 8man is doing and where he comes from
Half the main cast has at least some grasp of Hikki's character, what makes Sensei unique in that regard?
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>>122963327
Here: The entire series described in an image.
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>>122963299
I'm not denying that there was self-hatred there. But I'm telling you, there is most definite lingering hatred of nice girls in what he says. He hates how he reacts to them, but he also seems to hate them for being nice to him in the first place.
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>>122963455
That picture is actually why I preemptively decided this series was shit and decided I wasn't going to have any of it.

People have told me that he gets less retarded in the future, though.
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>>122962919
know that feel
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>>122963494
>he also seems to hate them for being nice to him in the first place.

He wouldn't mind them being nice to him if only they let him stick it in afterwards.
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>>122963076

This.
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>>122963543
Yet you are in this thread right now.
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>>122963543
Much of the story revolves around the main character growing out of his cynicism and realizing that people aren't as shitty as he makes them out to be, so yes.

The point of that monologue is to emphasize how skewed his perception is.
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>>122963494
Yeah that's fair, you just see the occasional anons try to turn it into some sort of fedora tipping shit to live by without realizing how pathetic it is in the context of the story and it riles me up.
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>>122963574
Essentially. I'm not saying he's right to hate them, but to him their kindness feels like hypocrisy because of how he interprets it. He doesn't necessarily hate nice girls for being nice, he hates them for what their niceness does to him (which is where the self-hate comes from too).
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8man is gay.
Hell, anyone would turn gay after dealing with such high-level boypussy.
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>>122963641
I know what you mean. Just to clarify on what I said; to 8man their kindness feels like hypocrisy because of how he interprets it. He doesn't necessarily hate nice girls for being nice, he hates them for what their niceness does to him (which is where the self-hate you mentioned comes from too).
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>>122963543
>judging things without context
Exactly the problem with this board.
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>>122963641
We have an entire board that does this.
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>>122963685
>Hell, anyone would turn gay after dealing with such high-level boypussy.
I must admit, I was tempted. No guy should be allowed to be that cute.
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>>122963695
Right, agreed in full there.
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>>122963455
That was exactly how I thought when I was about 15.
>"I'm a loner. I will always be."
Damn, I feel so embarrassing right now.
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>>122963619
If I hid every thread for every series I didn't follow there would be very little left.

>>122963634
I suppose that's reasonable. I'm just not that big on watching MCs I don't like gradually become likable over series where the MC is someone I actually like.

Character development a shit, etc.

>>122963707
The context I saw that picture in was a thread where a bunch of /a/nons calling him the most based protagonist ever, which only made the impression worse.
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Just wondering, could anybody explain to me what exactly Yukino was implying when talking to 8man about the nature of their relationship at the end of the 12th episode? Maybe I was using shitty subs, but she seemed to first deny and then sorta confirm that they were friends.
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>>122963824
You don't have to hide a thread to not click on it, unless you are autistic.
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>>122963764
I was an edgy cunt with a superiority complex back then too.
I still can't stand most people, but I now recognize that I'm equally as shitty and that sex is kinds fun, even if I do have to pay for it.
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Who best and why Miura?
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>>122963826
Words don't mean anything, is what she is saying.

Thank the anime for not emphasizing the little prince.
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>>122963744
r9k?
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>>122963872
I saw a post on the front page that I wanted to reply to. Wasn't aware these threads were for fans only.
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>>122963764
Anon, I still think that now and I'm in my 20's. The funny thing is, I wasn't a loner in highschool - I just became one in college.
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>>122963890
Intelligent, caring, slightly fragile but will try her best.
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>>122963826
Yukino's grudging admission that she likes him, despite being as big a misanthrope as he is.
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>>122963890
Why is she named after a Lamborghini?
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>>122963914
You don't have to be a fan to have watched something.
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>>122963964
Huh, not that anon, but for some reason I thought they were talking about the car accident in that scene. I expected that to be brought up again between Yukino and 8man before the end of the season.
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>>122963890

Miurax8man is my crack shipping
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>>122963902
Who else?
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>>122963966
Because she's a high quality riding engine
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>>122964064
That loses frontal traction at speed?
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>>122963010
>Yui was going to confess to Hachiman
Wow, I need to reread vol 7, vol 8 and 9 make more sense now too
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>>122964064
Is her engine in the middle?
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>>122963966
Because she's a raging bull?
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>>122964032
The point of the arc was to show that Yukino wasn't as perfect as he thought she was and for him to accept that and be on equal grounds. Also, the fact that while she doesn't lie, she doesn't say the truth either. And a theme that got omitted was that words don't always mean what they mean hence the "Now I know you" from the "I didn't know you at all."
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>>122963915
Most people who become a loner/NEET are in college to be honest. You have to be very active to make friends in college.
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>>122963200
I just started reading catcher and holy shit, holden's a faggot. At least 8man knows what he wants to do with his life. Holden's just being the biggest piece of shit without ever thinking that he's at fault for his thoughts about life.
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