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New Fate Thread because why not.

This OST deserves it.

FLAC:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=668529

MP3/320:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=668530

Protip, Flac is the only right option
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7.5 minutes of new content.

Fuck me.
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>>122913883
Well, it is not that was needed more. We had three 1 hour episodes.
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>>122914031
The whole fucking show should of been that way.
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>>122914031
It's just the fact that they advertised more. There was no need to throw the OST into the run time when Zero's boxes didn't.
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>4 good tracks in the entire OST
>Two composed by Kajiura
>one is a vocal song by Lisa

Why is this allowed?
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>>122913838

> b-but muh perfectionist vision of the way this adaptation should have been ;_;
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>>122914129
The whole OST is good though.
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>>122914135

meant for

>>122914031
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>>122914129
>Why is this allowed?
You mean, your shit taste?
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>>122914115
It's not like
"With 8 minutes of new content!" is good advertising.
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Hehe
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>>122914206
They advertised new scenes, they put a bullet point that the episodes would be "uncut", and they had the run time at 480 minutes. We got less than 10 minutes of new stuff.

It's kind of slimy how they did it, honestly.
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I am more interested in the quality improvement. All screens I've seen so far looked like some QUALITY.
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>>122913883
Reminder, you were warned.
https://archive.moe/a/thread/122822658/#122824984

Anyone who took the runtime on the store page as 100 minutes of deleted content was fooling themselves. Something like that would have been advertised. It would be a huge selling point to have the equivalent of 5 OVA's bundled. But it was not even mentioned once, just extrapolated from the runtime as well as the 2 confirmed deleted scenes from early on.
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>>122914289
Improvements lol. Yes this is the BD
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>>122914326
>But it was not even mentioned once

That's wrong though. They were advertising new stuff as early as episode 2 on Twitter.
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>>122913838
btw, Zero OST is here, since the one in nyaa is dead. Both Vol's in flac:

http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4199669

Based russian bros
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>>122914417
Rin's nose. Every time.
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>>122914400
SEIBA STAPH
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What was everyones reaction during the midseason finale when Disillusion came on? I nearly peed.
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>>122914326
How delusional do you have to be to believe that they would include 100 minutes of extra content, and not air it?
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>>122913838

I think the OST is decent by itself.It didn't really fit some of the scenes, yet it sounded great in some other places. Zero's soundtrack fit its show better overall, but it had less variety.

I'm still hoping that Fukasawa steps up his game this season, and judging by some of his work, he's pretty talented. Let's just hope this turns out good.
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>>122914417
They mentioned the one uncut scene. And people from the theatre viewing of the prologue mentioned the reality marble scene. That was the only two we knew of.

They never advertised 100 minutes of deleted content, only that the runtime was longer than the tv airing. But that runtime included all content on the cd's such as trailers, cm's and soundtrack.
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Is Achilles a Gilkiller?
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>>122914513
Look through the archives
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>>122914565
It's not unfair to think the OST didn't factor in when it didn't with Zero.
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>>122913838
It feels like the characters drawn by Takeuchi are reaching the singularity of Fate/Zero Caster with every illustration he does.
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so miura fucked it up like Knk6
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I'm watching the show for the first time through the BDs.

1st episode mostly just covers a day in the life of Rin, her servant summoning, and a few things afterwards. The run time is perfect in that it allows events to play out without feeling rushed or condensed. I think it also helps with characterization and atmosphere. By letting Rin have a normal day, we're introduced to her personality, the world around her, and her relationship with certain people and Masters. Much of Fate/stay night is about the characters so I think scenes like those are important. Rin is a fun character so her reactions to some of the events was great as she gets so flustered at times.

The background work is some next level shit. In fact it might be a bit too good, in that the composition of the characters juxtapose against how intricate and detailed the backgrounds are. That's mostly an issue indoors as outside is gorgeous. It's really exemplary how much work went into the background art. I should also mention the lighting is fairly decent at times and you can tell some time went into that.

Now that I have it all in one place, it's time to dig in and watch it.
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>>122914637
The adaptation is fine, it's just the BDs are a bit of a let down.
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>>122914628
That's nice to hear. I want to believe the Gillesboom is real.
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>>122914616
>didn't factor in when it didn't with Zero.
Not that I'm doubting you, but source? I've seen it mentioned a few times but has anyone actually done the leg work to see if that's true or not?
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Threadly reminder that Excalibur is now a TYPE-killer, Merlin is now a white knight Inuyasha, the Round Table is a mystic code powered by Excalibur, and fossil fuels are made out of dragons.

Welcome to the new age of Type-Moon. Watch your step.
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Who are we rooting for?
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>>122914794
http://fatezerousa.com/product-default.php
>Total Run Time: approx. 330 min.
http://fatezerousa.com/product-br-disc-box-2.php
>Total Run Time: approx. 215 min.

Both came with an OST.
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>>122914685

According to certain people on MAL, this adaptation is the worst thing to happen to Fate since sliced DEEN.
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>>122914818
I'm really not surprised. TM was always like this anyways
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>>122914913
The only bad thing about it is the lack of internal monologues.
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>>122914818
>Excalibur is now a TYPE-killer
what
>Merlin is now a white knight Inuyasha
meh
>the Round Table is a mystic code powered by Excalibur
Oh nasu
>fossil fuels are made out of dragons
what
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>>122914913
Fate fanbase is filled with greedy assholes, we know.
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>>122914680
>Almost 130 Gb
>1 seed
>119 leechers
Shit, I don't know if it's already on AB since is down for maintenance but I guess it would be similar.

Also, tell me that it included all the episodes.

>>122914913
>implying
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>>122914945
I agree, especially during the hostage scene and dreams.
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>>122914959
>聖剣は星の内部で生まれ、星の手で鍛え上げられた神造兵器 いわばこのか星が作り上げた、星を滅ぼす外敵を想定して作られたものだ。
>The holy sword was created inside the planet. The planet forged -- created -- this Divine Construct in regards to foreign enemies who sought to destroy the planet.

Of course the TYPEs in Notes aren't enemies of the planet, but yeah, it's built to kill aliens. That said it went on to say it won't do that unless the battle being fought is one with the world at stake. It's wank for Grand Order stuff, probably.

As for the dragons, apparently they went underground when Common Era hit and fell asleep. There souls were long gone in the Backside of the World. They're oil and minerals now and earth formations.
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>>122914884
>$700
I would buy it, if I have the money ;_;
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>>122915094
why do I still bother with TM's bullshit
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>>122914877
>No Saber
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>>122914877
of course saber and ayaka
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>>122914877
Either Black Death loli or Enkidu.
I really want Enkidu to defeat Gil or them dying together, but please not Gil alone. He won often enough.
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>you will never "nibble" her "rye bread" or "sip" her "rock-salt cabbage soup"

why live?
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>>122915441
There is a Saber. He's a grumpy bishonen guy.
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I wish Urobuchi made more characters for the Type Moon universe.
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>>122914877
Bacteria Loli & Birthday Ghost or Flat Escardo & Jackserker.
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>>122915094
>Excalibur also functioned as battery to Camelot which actually is spaceship built by fairies.
Is this for real?
I was searching for spoilers and found this.
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>>122914877
How could you choose anyone but Enkidu and the dog?
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>>122914989
AB has all the episodes yes, but at 25-ish GB, since they're actual mkvs, not BDMVs
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>>122915094
Foreign enemies of the planet can be anything. That does not mean it can kill TYPEs.
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>>122915675
Because those guys are pretty vanilla in this cast.
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Is the animation material booklet going to be translated for the English version?
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>>122914913
>>122914970
If you really like the Saber wanking, bastardization of Shirou's character, shitty Berserker fight reimagining, overabundance of firework effects instead of actual fights like F/Z, that crappy, nonsensical new scene where the girls mistake Shirou for Shinji, the derpy Rin designs in the first few episodes, etc, I don't know what to tell you.

People aren't being greedy, they expect BASIC things from Ufotable like including important scenes (projection foreshadowing from the common route and Shirou's monologue after the date are still not in) and including monologues or at least alluding to them through other means.

UBW 2014 will always be something you just watch to see the fights animated, standalone it's barely average. Hopefully HF gets better treatment.
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>>122915681
>0 seeds
>mfw
What?

Also, are those subs the ones included on the BD?
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>>122914884
http://fatezerousa.com/product-blu-ray-box-set-2.php

I think I just realized where they changed their approach. The non-import release of Zero's second box lists 290 minutes, which is 75 minutes longer than the import version of the same set.

Now how long do you think the second OST was? Sneaky fucks.
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>>122915922
>including monologues
>In a mainly visual medium
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>>122915922
>Saber wanking
Literally one move in the Berserker fight

>bastardization of Shirou's character
What? No inner monologue I give you, but everything else follows the VN pretty well

>shitty Berserker fight reimagining
Once again, one move

>overabundance of firework effects instead of actual fights like F/Z
I mean, it saves them a little budget, and it looks cool. Not like talking heads is any better

>that crappy, nonsensical new scene where the girls mistake Shirou for Shinji
Fair enough, I guess. But doesn't really matter in the long run

> the derpy Rin designs in the first few episodes
Only point I fully agree with. Actually, the design is still a bit wonky in the later episodes.
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>>122915989
Yes, jsum seems to be a guy who uploads BDMVs on U2 or something, the subs are retail
The uploader has really bad internet it seems
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>>122915665
Different guy, but sorta. It was more like people built Camelot, but fairies modded it a lot. The round table was like the core of the place, and Excalibur was the battery that slotted into the core.

>>122915745
Pretty much. Everyone's freaking out about it being a TYPE-killer while forgetting that TYPEs are perfect beings and killing them is way harder than killing "normal" aliens. Still, Excalibur being able to kill things foreign to the planet is a pretty big boost in wankpower.
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>>122916036
Watch Oregairu, Hunter x Hunter, Kaiji, or SAO II

Just because Ufotable aren't talented enough doesn't mean it can't be done
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>>122915441
We get Ayaka instead with five disposable Servants. First guy is Saber, probably Richard the Lionheart. >>122915588

Hope we get Cu's teacher and the hydra instead of some boring ones. Maybe the mange will change up the story a bit with different ones.
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>>122916128
The Player mechanic's been changed, this isn't the old April Fools thing anymore.
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>>122915922
>There's no way Ufotable will mess it up!
>Fucking DEEN, UFO have this down!
>Come on guys, Heaven's Feel is going to be perfect! It's way too big to fall!
>They'll fix it in the BDs!
>Fucking Type-Moon! They forgot about the TRUE fans who stuck by them, the guys who downloaded and discussed powerlevels for years and years! What about us?!
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>>122916077
Any idea if it's downloadable?
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>>122916059
>Literally one move in the Berserker fight
pic related

>What? No inner monologue I give you, but everything else follows the VN pretty well

Nope they ruined the Rin dynamic by altering scenes and not making stuff clear (like when Rin wants to have lunch with Shirou, he is intentionally trolling her. The anime makes it look as if he's obvlivious)

They have his motives down but his actual snarky personality is nowhere to be found.
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>>122915922
>Hopefully HF gets better treatment.

HF is fucked and you know it.
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>>122916178
No, it's the same. Arai or someone mentioned that the prologue scene where the player is entering town is the same, except with Ayaka. She has the five command spells and a bunch of voices wanting her to contract or something.
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>>122916096
And all of those monologues are weary to watch.
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>>122916096
>Just because Ufotable aren't talented enough doesn't mean it can't be done
You don't get it at all. I would prefer monologues, but you should realize that Ufo prefers to show not tell. It's part of the medium, and they try to use monologues only when strictly necessary (even less I'd say).
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>>122916202
According to the UBW Q&A "justification" from Nasu (read: someone said "this is how it happened, right?" and Nasu said "uh yeah sure"), Saber was able to escape from full Tsubame Gaeshi by combining her Instinct and Barrier of the Wind King. Nasu also said the only reason it was the full one instead of incomplete is because they didn't have time to spend the whole episode rambling about Tsubame Gaeshi so they shuffled things around.
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>>122916096
Those are terrible examples. Not to mention they also abuse narration.
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>>122916201
There was a guy in these threads downloading it. Wasn't able to get them full though. You should be able to get to whatever % the seeder was able to upload before the left
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>>122913838
>FLAC
I rather have squillions of MP3/320 to fit my A&K120II than just a few songs with FLAC

Until memory sizes grow exponentially FLAC belongs to my rig and not my music player
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>>122915922
>overabundance of firework effects instead of actual fights like F/Z
Sure there are more flashy effects, but UBW's animation is much better than F/Z's.
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>>122916202
Time constraints, apparently. Makes some sense that it would be weird for an infodump on the move.
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>>122915922
>including important scenes (projection foreshadowing from the common route
That's really not that important unless UBW is literally your first exposure to this franchise, which it shouldn't be. I've said it a million times, ufotable isn't spoonfeeding people stuff they should already know, you're supposed to have already read Fate. This is pure nitpicking.
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Hey look on the bright side guys, at least they didn't add in a bunch of forced Saber scenes.
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>>122915922
>including important scenes (projection foreshadowing from the common route

UBW is not a standalone because there is no fate route anime doesnt mean they need to add this in UBW
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>>122916187
>Come on guys, Heaven's Feel is going to be perfect! It's way too big to fall!

No, no, no!
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>>122916201
Just wait for potatoe or some other guy with seedbox to be done first.

It'll still take shorter time than camping on nyaa.
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>>122916289
sasuga Nasu
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>>122916178
No, Ayaka still has that same thing going. She summoned one of her temporary Servants and apparently he wants to set the Grail War straight.
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>>122916289
Basically, it doesn't fucking matter stop having conniptions you losers.
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>>122916289
>my nigga Kojiro getting shit on due to time constraints
>he's barely even on any of the promo art
Best Assassin never gets any love.
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>>122916299
So, no chance of getting it to 100%, right?

>>122916492
I've got a seedbox my self. But, how shit the speed is atm. That's what worries me, since I'm afraid of not getting it all an incur on a H&R for not seeding it.
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>>122915588
Kinda funny how the Strange War is so broken they end up summoning Servants classes that were supposed to have been excluded by design. It's so broken it ends up kinda right.
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>>122916594
That's not really getting shit on if we at least got to see his full attack animated, and it was cool-looking.
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>>122916616
Hit and runs don't cost that much, and if the initial seeder keeps being that crap you'll probably get to 1.0 ratio fast, since you have a seedbox yourself
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>>122916078
I don't know if it's even that much a boost. We always knew Excalibur was pretty ridiculous when Nasu said it was only somewhat below Ea. Since Ea trashed Excalibur in Fate, it makes sense that it wasn't at its fullest.
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>>122916616
>an incur on a H&R
That only happens after you download it 100% and didn't seed it after 3 days.
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Meanwhile, at Type-Moon...
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>>122916187
Oh I can see that... it could bring someone like me, who only played HF for more Illya, to tears.
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>>122916616
You won't get H&R because that's not how it works.
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>>122916732
No, it happens if you download more than 10% and don't seed it to a 1.0 ratio, OR if you download 100% and don't seed for the time you have to (3 days for <10GB torrents, more for larger ones)
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>400 dollars for 7 minutes of new animation
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>>122916648
It diminishes the strength of the attack, perfect Tsubame Gaeshi was supposed to be something that's completely unavoidable and was even compared to Gae Bolg without the luck role. The fact that Saber can survive it without his blade being bent diminishes how deadly it is.
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I think I've come to a conclusion from all the confusion - F/SN is one of those VNs that are much more difficult to adapt to a more linear narrative, because it's much more dependant on its non-linear nature to actually tell its story, despite being barely more interactive than a regular novel. That, and the VN has a ton of content (the English translation trumps the Lord of the Rings trilogy in terms of word count), so even a less time-compressed adaptation would be hard-pressed to do it justice without taking an equivalent amount of time.

Hell, even by dying you can learn information that you wouldn't know otherwise - fun fact, in one of the bad ends in Fate, Saber, upon seeing Kirei, actually wonders how the hell he survived being shot in the heart in the previous grail war, and earlier on, she makes a reference to using Excalibur in the harbour, and Gilgamesh makes a reference to Kiritsugu interrupting his 'wedding ceremony'. Fate/Stay Night has a shocking amount of call-backs to Fate/Zero before F/Z was even a thing, though F/Z does retcon certain minor details here and there.
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>>122916799
Neither of which will apply if the issue is slow uploader.
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>>122916838
No, it's 400 dollars for 5 BDs, one CD, one light novel, and a magazine
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>>122916838
I'll buy the localized copies with the dub.
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>>122916879
>replying to shitposter
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>>122916797
>>122916732
>>122916695
Ok, I just started the download.

Also, don't you get a H&R for not completing the torrent and no seeding it? I mean, implying that I download something with no seeds, then I can't finish it and since it has no seed, no one will download it.

Or I'm wrong?
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>>122914818
Oh TM... how much I love thy works, but how much I hate thee...
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>>122916926
If you don't complete it and can't seed it to 1.0 ratio, you can get a HnR, but it's rare, and you could just report the torrent/talk to staff since it's more the uploader's fault than yours
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>>122916697
It's not a power boost as much as it is a mechanics boost "conceptually", sorta. The reason aliens outside of TYPEs are hard to kill is because they play by their planet's rules and not yours, so generally you need to use something from their planet, something pre-planetary like Grain (Knight Arms in Notes and etc), or something from [ ] like True Magic. Excalibur's now managed to join that list. Even if the power of the beam hasn't changed (unless it's a battle where the world's at stake), the "mystery" of the beam has.
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>>122914818
What are they smoking at type-moon this time?
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>>122916926
Just download if you want. I've seen that same question asked too many times so tl;dr is you're alright because the issue is on the uploader, not you.
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>>122917026
Nasu's just slowly going for Lucas.
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>>122917026
peyote
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>>122914818
I don't understand why the fossil fuel thing would bother people. Frankly I don't see why any of that would bother anyone.
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>>122916858
No, the main storyline is fine and intact without that dead ends. F/SN routes are largely a linear story, you only gain nonessential information that is easily added to an animated medium with the nonlinear parts. The bulk of the story lies in the main route itself.
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>>122917026
I think Nasu stopped giving a shit about Fateverse after Zero and HA, and again with CCC, I think he just wants to leave but they can't let him.
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>>122917026
The green, you know what kind of green
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>>122917010
Except that's still totally unfounded. All we were told is that Excalibur gains an undetermined amount of power against threats to the planet; that's it.
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>>122917096
>Q: Why do you like drawing Saber-faces so much?

>Nasu: I'd like to know that too.
>Takeuchi: Huh, what's with this atmosphere? You're making me seem like I'm a weirdo, like I'm a perverse dude or something.
>Nasu: You've been doing this for over 10 years; you're plenty perverse. "Doing what you set out to do" is a handy expression. isn't it.
>Takeuchi: Oh man, I just got told by the guy who keeps adding to the Fate canon even as he keeps saying he "doesn't wanna"...
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>>122917081
It takes a lot longer for fossilization to occur.
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>>122917108
Money?
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>>122916857
The only reason we are ever given to believe that Saber wouldn't be able to survive the perfect version is that she thought she wouldn't be able to after seeing the two-slash version. Honestly I don't think it makes much of a difference when all she could do against it is run the fuck away by falling down the stairs. People just hype it up for something we never actually observed.
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>>122915196
I still fail to see what is the problem with that. We all knew that Excalibur was made from fairies and that it was the best illusion ever made, so it being a Gaian superweapon to fight enemies of the plant actually ties with that.
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>>122917096
Why would he want to leave? He gets to sit around with his bro Takeuchi and play Dark Souls instead of working.
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>>122916984
>>122917032
Thanks, then I'll wait until it starts to download, since it really has no seed at all. Hope to get it to a 1 ratio faster than normal.
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>>122917096
He wrote a 100-page Saber novel for the BDs, that doesn't bespeak indifference or weariness to me.
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>>122917081
It doesn't bother me, but it is pretty retarded. Yeah, it's magic and all, but there's no point to blatantly contradict geology this much.
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>>122917167
It's not made from fairies, it's made by the planet. It was just given to the fairies to hand out, because they're the planet's sense of touch.
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Too bad this OST sucks compared to Fate/Zero.

I mean, cmon ...

https://youtu.be/vVYCU2dhwIY?t=2m

https://youtu.be/8mK_0up-LMc?t=2m25s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S-UpM7dbcg

Where are those in UBW ? I hope the second cour will get this shit fixed.
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>>122916476
>implying HF would be shit
Anon please...
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>>122917221
fuck off
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>>122916187
Nothing of that applies to the UBW anime, so I don't follow.
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>>122917212
Why did the planet's sense of touch try to eat a mage in KnK?
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>>122917221
Too bad that your taste sucks
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>>122917290
Why can the planet's sense of touch be used as grenades?

The planet has some weird tastes.
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>>122917290
Those were not real fairies. It is explained in Oblivion Recording.
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>>122917221
Yeah, it's not that great but I think it still has its merits. It's just not the sort that you'd want to listen to on its own.
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>>122914877
I want to see more of Jester and Assassin. It takes a special kind of crazy to want to wake up ORT and destroy the world.
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Reminder that it's Kariya's birthday
at least he tried
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>>122914818
>Threadly reminder that Excalibur is now a TYPE-killer
Wat how, somebody please explain.

>the Round Table is a mystic code powered by Excalibur
Eh... I can dig it.

>and fossil fuels are made out of dragons
Oh my.
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>>122917290
Those weren't even actual fairies.
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>>122917290
We don't know what the fairies that kidnapped Kurogiri really were.

And the ones in the school were just fakes.
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>>122917194
where I can download too ?
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>>122917167
Yeah, I'm totally okay with the whole Excalibur stuff, I don't really do powerlevel discussion anyways. What I don't like is that Nasu changed the legend so much, but oh well I'm glad we're getting more Arturia.
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>>122917250
They'll need a lot of movies to cover it in it's entirety. Some of them will be "boring" as fuck because of wormslut babysitting and non-fight things. They'd try to condense it into few movies and the things they cut or modify WILL backfire horribly
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>>122917221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHaCmbhM6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyr4vehSjYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvpDqBFFc7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBh4_cf7uU4

There are lots of great tracks.
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>>122917379
See >>122915094 and >>122916078
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>>122917366
But know Jester wants to defile Girl Hassan.
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>>122917379
There's nothing to explain because the passage in question never said Excalibur could kill Types.
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>>122917379
>Wat how, somebody please explain
It just means Excalibur is a weapon created by the planet to defend the planet, so under the right conditions it can be used as a really powerful defensive weapon. It means absolutely nothing in the context of the HGW.
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So if Sakura dated Makoto Itou, would she be as tolerant of Makoto's cheating as Kotonoha? Everyone calls Sakura a doormat and all.
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>>122917210
How so? Regular geology certainly don't provide ley lines, mana etc. MAGIC geology producing magic resources on the other hand, makes more sense.
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>>122917445
see >>122915745
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>>122917367
You tried Kariya, you tried
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>>122917203
Wow, really? Nasu has way too much going on, yet everyone expects so much out of the guy.

>Mahoyo Trilogy
>Tsukihime remake
>Melty Blood HD
>Fate/EMIYA
>3rd War LN
>Illya route
>F/SN epilogue feat. Waver and Rin
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>>122917502
The second post I quoted is a response to that which says the same thing but also mentions the camelot stuff, so I used that instead

>>122917517
Nasu confirmed that he's not making an Ilya route because Prisma fills the category as far as he's concerned. It's in the Q&A that came out with UBW stuff the other day.
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>>122917367
Thank you for trying Kariya!
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>>122917517
>>Illya route
prisma is illya route
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>>122917517
>>Illya route
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