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Post your favorite UBW OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHaCmbhM6U
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Episode 11 has no extra scenes either. Three episodes to go, only 0 and 2 have extra scenes so far.
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>>122901269
Are you serious?

If this is true I'm never buying anything TM or Ufotable related again.
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>>122901269
did you really download that 150gb file
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>>122901469
You don't need to download all of it to have the episodes.
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>>122900965
Who's the faggot on the left and why is he with Gil?
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>>122901458
The thing that hurts more is that there's no Taiga falling before the class.

>>122901469
20 GB, and I'm just looking at the duration of each episode. For some reason even that takes a lot.

5, 7, 9 and 12 still haven't loaded, so it's four more to hope for, not three.
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>>122901542
Some pharaoh I forgot which one. And because all kings of ancient civilizations were fuccbois.
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7 has nothing either, three more to go.

I'm really disappointed, at least the new scenes are good.
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>>122901542
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>>122901584
I guess you got the download off of AB then? I wonder how long until a smaller one comes out on nyaa.
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>>122901696
How much new scenes were promised, again?
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>>122901822
6 gorillion hours
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>>122901785
Yep.

>>122901822
Some people believed we would get 100 minutes, but that must have been misinterpretation of info. It's still way too little for even being announced as part of the set. It was all a ruse to bait buyers.

I hope that they don't do the same for HF BDs, in that case any extra material will be very important.
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>>122901269
Thanks or the info anon.
How long were the new scenes in 0 and 2?
Has anybody done any quality comparison yet?
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>>122901542

I am Ozymandias, King of Kings,
Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!
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>>122902040
Play the VN faggot
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>>122900965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBh4_cf7uU4
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>>122901822
It was never said anything specific, people just love to overreact.
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>>122902040
2006 anime is garbage, play the VN
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>>122900965

Is there a BD Torrent up somewhere? Where can I get it?
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>>122902061
sorry I thought I was on the anime board faggot
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>>122902040
http://pastebin.com/BxZKmaaw

Follow the guide.
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>>122901638
What's a fuccboi?
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>>122902040
Fuck off, casual.
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>>122900965
He's and the loli are the main reasons why I want a F/P translation.
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>>122900965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-H8kAKKkTI
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>>122902040
Oh boy here we go.
Basically he was right except for one thing: you should really read the original visual novel. The new anime is fine but VN is better.
It's long and kinda flawed but it's still quite an experience. Try it out.
The new anime is decent but it still isn't completely finished anyway.
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>>122902166
Who's the guy in front? Is he a member of Ayako's harem?
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>>122902055
In episode 0 there's about 3 minutes of extra content, and it's the Reality Marble scene on the ruins of the old Shinto. We knew that from before the series started airing.

For episode 2, there's a scene at the beginning where Rin fixes Shirou's window, and there's a scene where they are walking to the church. They total to 2:40 minutes.

Keep in mind we knew about this three scenes from the BDs advertisements.

No comparison yet, you'll have to wait until it finishes, I'm currently at 29%, and I don't think I'll do that.
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>>122902131
No you fuck off.
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>>122902282
No, YOU fuck off
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>>122902268
So 5, 9 and 12 are left right?
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>>122902379
No, OP fuck off.
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>>122901542
Gil ripoff from Fragments. They're pretty much the exact same except he's not quite as much of an arrogant asshole and he summons monsters instead of weapons.
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>>122902131
>>122902282
>>122902379
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>>122902251
I have no fucking idea to be honest. I only saved it because it looked nice and was some new official stuff.
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>>122902282
You're the one coming into our thread. You fuck off.
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>>122902379
>>122902282
>>122902424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FVuPjczio
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>>122902456
It's not your thread. You fuck off.
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>>122902414
Yeah, I hope that there's not too much left until we know. It would at least give us peace of mind.
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>>122902427
So, original Gil is the original Pokemon trainer?
This actually seems even more OP than Gate of Babylon. Monsters are kinda dangerous in Nasuverse.
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>>122902544
OP here. It is my thread, you fuck off.
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>>122900965
>mfw I realise that every theme was made just for specific scenes
Pro as fuck.
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>>122902605
Monsters died to NP prototypes all the time.
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>>122900965
Fate/stay night turned out to be a huge disappointment for me, I expected a lot more. Don't even get me started on the cost of the DVD/BD sets, I don't know anyone who would bother paying that much for a series as underwhelming as this. It's just catering to the lowest common denominator of the fanbase who have enough money to get it and gloat about how great it is, despite how mediocre it really is. It's just the like worst of the Naruto fanbase: They love it and won't shut up about it, but there's absolutely nothing special about it.
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>>122902632

>>122902424
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>>122902605
>So, original Gil is the original Pokemon trainer?

Original Gil is the original GIl, this is like his own clone born a few centuries later. Reincarnation of the Gilgamesh, got his ass kicked by Moses.
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>>122902779
Nice pasta >>122893653
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>>122902268
Well, to be fair, F/Z I had like 35 minutes extra content but the series didn't have the second double lenght episode.
Still a disappointment, especially since we don't even have any other animated extra stuff like the chibi Taiga episodes for F/Z.

How long until we'll see the first sale numbers?
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>>122902779
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>>122902877
Maybe when it's actually on sale. So at least two weeks
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New Fate stuff coming out all the time in the last few days. With it comes new interviews as well.

>Q: For Berserker's Noble Phantasm "God Hand," it says that he'll gain resistance to any attack he's been dealt, but does it require for him to "die" for this to happen? Would the same attack work multiple times so long as he doesn't die from it?
>Nasu: There's no need for him to die. It's something like...for example, if he is damaged by flames, after his wounds heal he'd gain +100 fire resistance or so.
>Takeuchi: Hey, seems like it's been toned-down. Wouldn't it have rendered flames completely ineffective before?
>Nasu: I said it wouldn't work, not that it would become completely ineffective.
>BB: "I nullify all attacks, and Mr. Macho there triples his defense! How are these two any different?!"
>Herakles: "(I'm not hacking the system like you are!)"
>Takeuchi: Either way, it's a pretty broken skill.

>When will I get a route? -Illya
>Nasu: "You already have one, it's Prisma Illya."
>Takeuchi: "Are you sure it's okay to say that?"
>Nasu: "Of course, if I can't do something myself somebody else will do it for me, aren't humans amazing?"

>Q: Why do you like drawing Saber-faces so much?
>Nasu: I'd like to know that too.
>Takeuchi: Huh, what's with this atmosphere? You're making me seem like I'm a weirdo, like I'm a perverse dude or something.
>Nasu: You've been doing this for over 10 years; you're plenty perverse. "Doing what you set out to do" is a handy expression, isn't it.
>Takeuchi: Oh man, I just got told by the guy who's still adding stuff to the Fate canon even as he keeps saying he "doesn't wanna"...
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>>122900965
>Fate/Stay Night
>Kajiura still has the best track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN_tBBWbTA8
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>>122902932
>>When will I get a route? -Illya
>>Nasu: "You already have one, it's Prisma Illya."
>>Takeuchi: "Are you sure it's okay to say that?"
>>Nasu: "Of course, if I can't do something myself somebody else will do it for me, aren't humans amazing?"

Ilyafags BTFO
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>>122902932
>>Q: Why do you like drawing Saber-faces so much?
>>Nasu: I'd like to know that too.
>>Takeuchi: Huh, what's with this atmosphere? You're making me seem like I'm a weirdo, like I'm a perverse dude or something.
>>Nasu: You've been doing this for over 10 years; you're plenty perverse. "Doing what you set out to do" is a handy expression, isn't it.

Fuck my sides.
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>>122902932
Nasu and Takeuchi are such good buddies. I wish I could hang out with the two of them over dinner and just chat about shit.
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>>122900965
Gil will never hang out with a wannabe like Ozzy
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>>122901542
>>122902427
He is actually a pretty nice character. At first he seems like a Gil ripoff, but it is seen later that he is more like a mix of Gil and Iskandar.
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>>122902932
BB banter.

Truly best girl.
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Which is the best version of Emiya and why is it Prism Illya?
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>>122902779
It's enjoyable if you ignore the retardation that is the fanbase.
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>>122901542
>Who's the faggot on the left
Owner of a giant golden spaceship that shits lasers
Rides a sphinx into battle
Can project a RM to summon Egyptian phantasmal beasts
Loves his brown waifu
Hates a certain Jewboy who shat on his kingdom
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>>122903435
He also wants to defeat Manaka to save everyone and conquer the world to create an utopia. But he fails.
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>>122902932
>Takeuchi: Oh man, I just got told by the guy who's still adding stuff to the Fate canon even as he keeps saying he "doesn't wanna"..
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>>122903258
They only made him a bit of Iskandar because being a Gil clone is not really a character at all
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>>122902779
Fate/stay night may be quite a juvenile fantasy story, but calling it a "huge disapointment" is wrong in my opinion. Given the ratio of sex scenes compared to the rest of it, and their importance (or lack thereof) in the overall plot, that would also make A Song of Ice and Fire a collection of "porno books", and the recent Game of Thrones adaptation a "porno series". (In fact the latter certainly has more gratuitous sex per hour than FSN)
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>>122902932
>>Nasu: I said it wouldn't work, not that it would become completely ineffective.
What? What the fuck does he think ineffective means?
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Newest info from Gardens of Avalon.
>Dragons are oil
>Excalibur is an Anti-Type weapon
The Saibahwank won't stop
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>>122900965
Most of the FSN OST was pretty terrible imho

The only stuff that matters are Realta Nua additions and/or tracks that haven't shown up in the route yet.

And yes, Church on the Hill is overrated.
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>>122903531
Not him and I don't get what that has to do with anything.
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>>122903544
>f I can't do something myself somebody else will do it for me, aren't humans amazing?"
>dragons are oil
Huh?
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>>122903544
Does Merlin have stats? I would want to add him here
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>>122903544
>Round Table was a mystic code powered by Excalibur
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>>122903520
It was kinda the point. At first when you saw him for the viewpoint of other characters he seemed like a Gil ripoff, but once his chapter was released his real personality was shown.
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>>122903543
Maybe he means it would be effective at cutting his nails?
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>>122903589
No.
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>>122902779
Fate is puerile wish-fulfillment pablum aimed with laser-like precision at surprisingly affluent and easily mollified demographics which contains extended, lavishly-illustrated scenes of explicit penetrative sex. It's totes porn, from stem to stern. Whether you consider that to be a pejorative is up to you, but claiming it isn't is straight-up bananatown. Ain't no amount of PG-13 spinoffs that can change that.
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>>122903589
I don't think he's even a Servant.
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>>122903543
The thing is that he never said ineffective.
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>>122901269
I do hope they add additional scenes for Kuzuki though. As interesting as he was in the expanded material, UBW kind of underdeveloped him.
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>>122902455
>The holy sword was created inside the planet. The planet forged -- created -- this Divine Construct in regards to foreign enemies who seeked to destroy the planet.

>It goes onto to say that it won't display it's true power unless it's a planet threatening thing.

Really? That's what the novel is about? Even more Saber wank?
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>>122900965
Was not a fan of the VN at all, but loved ufotable's F/Z so I'll give it a shot.
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>>122903727
It is also about Kay being awesome.
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>>122903585
>Dragons went underground when Christian Era hit and fell asleep. There souls were long gone in the Backside of the World. They're oil and minerals now and earth formations.
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>>122903727
Look at the fucking cover.
Noone expected anything besides Saberwank and it managed to make the Nasuverse even stupider with the Dragons = Oil thing
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>>122903834
No, that one actually makes sense.
That's why there's no physical record of dragons. They just died and became fossil fuels.
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>>122903834
That is not bad actually. Their bodies were left behind and as the mythical earthly creatures they are their bodies turned into minerals and oils.
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>>122903543
Ineffective means all damage is reduced to 0.

Wouldn't work means it doesn't even register as damage.

No, I don't know the difference.
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>>122903834
I can live with the Saber hype since the novel was centered around her anyway. But I wish they wouldn't have mentioned the dragon thing. It sounds stupid as fuck.
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>>122903834
How is that bad? I love how people call things bad without even thinking for a second how they could make sense or not. And that actually makes sense.
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>>122903908
>>122903876
The simple fact that this happened around 30AD
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>>122903805
>Dragons went underground when Christian Era hit and fell asleep.
Gee, I wonder who purged them and sent them to the foul abyss
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>>122903544
>The Saibahwank won't stop

You're complaining about a FREE novel written by the creator of a franchise you NEVER gave money to.

Fucking christ, Type-Moonies.
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>>122903657
>not sure if ironic or not
Though thanks for teaching me a few new words, I guess. Non-native speaker here.
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>>122903979
You have claims of Saint George killing a dragon around that era. Lancelot killed some according to Arondight profile, so it probably was not something sudden.
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>>122903979
You have historical records of the Nasuverse that it happened in 30AD? In the Nasuverse where gods were everywhere, King Arthur was a girl, the origin of life was a giant that could break the world, and the planet is one big reality marble and clearly isn't our Earth; you have records from there that prove it was from 30AD?
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>>122903979
Christian era was about 300AD anon.
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>>122903997
>Type Moonies
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>>122903702
That would be awesome, his background was really one of the greatest moments in HA.
Though I wonder if they even will have enough time.
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>>122903657
Regardless of whether this is bait, irony or not. Do these types of people think they sound intelligent when they state the obvious in the most unnatural way possible?
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>>122904072
>You have claims of Saint George killing a dragon around that era
I can assure you that Saint George wasn't around 30 AD
>>122904102
Jesus slapped everyone's shit
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>>122902932
>Takeuchi: Hey, seems like it's been toned-down. Wouldn't it have rendered flames completely ineffective before?
>Nasu: I said it wouldn't work, not that it would become completely ineffective.
Takeuchi calling Nasu out and Nasu backpedaling like a little faggot.
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>>122903979
This is a fantasy setting. Mythical creatures being around at that point is logical. And this provides an explanation to why nobody found dragon fossils.

>>122904129
He was 300 years later, so the dragons were still around.
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>>122902080
By fair my favourite Emiya track useage was During Archer vs Shirou were stands up and his narration is saying just as you reject me I shall defeat you with all my powers and states "I am the bone of my sword", then Emiya begins. Such an awesome moment since it's personal theme named after him and plays just as he makes his comeback against his future self.

No joke, that moment should be the highlight of the entire franchise.
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>>122904173
But God Hand is better now that it doesn't even need a death to grant resistance to something.
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>>122903953
Maybe it's like this story about a small bird sharpening its beak with the stone, except the stone is Berserker and the bird is the unfortunate Servant who is fighting him?
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>>122904072
I am still sad they removed George and David from Apocrypha. Instead we got even mor Greeks.
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Someone asked in English if Gilgamesh washed his clothes after being touched by Dirty Shinji.
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>>122904212
If ufotable doesn't have a good Emiya remix to break out in the second cour I'm going to kill myself. I honestly sort of want them to just pull out the original theme, that would be fun.
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>>122904303
>I'm going to kill myself.
Go ahead and do it now
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>>122904288
Well, Achilles is kind of cool in Apocrypha.
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>>122904339
ufotable have one job.
Do you really think they will screw it up?
I kinda fear they will.
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>>122904212
Not him but i think exactly the same.
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>>122904339
You're not a very nice guy anon. I will kill myself though, I must go to Gensokyo some day.
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>>122904289
I'm now interested.
Did he really?
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>>122904303
>>122904401
Given that Archer's theme here is a remix of Emiya's first minute, I'm pretty sure there is going to be a remix at the least.
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>>122904212
Highlight of the franchise, definitely no.

Highlight of this anime, maybe, but even that's questionable.

Even a week or two later people will have already moved onto Shirou vs Gilgamesh even if its less of a fight.
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>>122904478
yes
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>>122904270
>God Hand is better
>can't even tank Invisible Air
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>>122904478
He sterilized his clothes.

Seriously.
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>>122904495
I will still buy some popcorn when the episode airs, just in case.
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>>122904478
Apparently he sterilized them
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>>122903657
Nice pasta:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29970285&postcount=86
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>>122904501
Archer vs. Shirou is the best scene of F/SN
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>>122904528
After the first hit it can.
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>>122904528
>Nasu: There's no need for him to die. It's something like...for example, if he is damaged by flames, after his wounds heal he'd gain +100 fire resistance or so.
>if he is damaged by flames, after his wounds heal he'd
>after his wounds heal he'd

Resistance only kicks in after healing
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>>122904501
Well, Shirou vs Kirei IS probably a better moment overall...
But it is still one of the highlights and the few things everyone remembers after reading it.
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>>122904528
Anime Godhand is shit tier.
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>>122904270
It always worked like that.

In Fate, Saber takes a swing at Berserker that 'knocks him back'.

Later, when Berserker is squashing Rin, Saber attacks Berserker again but her attacks just bounce off him.
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>>122904575
For me it is tied with Shirou and Kotomine's "All Evil of this World" scene in HF.
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>>122904501
I love Shirou vs Archer, but something about seeing Gil get fucking destroyed resonates inside me. I also can't wait to taste zerofag tears when Shirou beats him.
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>>122904534
>>122904541
I now feel sorry for Shinji.
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>>122903983
You're welcome
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>>122903544
>Anti-Type weapon
That's interesting. I remember the true ancestors being referred to as fairies in Tsukihime Prologue. If they made Excalibur, it would make sense for it to be an Anti Type weapon.
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>>122904668
Good, Shinji is the fucking best boy.
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>>122904543
Why do you bother googling posts?
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>>122904650
I actually kinda fear a thousand Frodo threads with "Gil should have been invincible" headers.
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>>122904650
Shirou beating Gil is kind of bullshit. If Nasu justified it by saying Gil's grailmud physical body is shit tier it would be perfect, but he stupidly gave Gil the parameters of a High tier Servant.
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>>122904773
It's pretty easy to spot, especially since this happens so often.
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>>122904773
So I know not to respond to something not worth the effort. Would you respond to pasta?
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>>122904501
Shirou vs Archer is probably the single most important scene in FSN. You remove it, and the route literally doesn't work. You can remove Shirou vs Gil, and while a significantly lesser product, the core message and story still works.
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>>122904740
Wait, did True Ancestors really create Excalibur?
I remember them being fairies but it never clicked in my head.
If it's true, it actually makes a lot of sense, what with them being as powerful as they are and disappearing god knows where nowadays.
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>>122904799
It's fine, since Shirou gains servant tier stats when he traces Noble Phantasm's.
>>122904778
There will be, it'll be great.
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>>122904811
A lot of these threads are the exact same thing every time, why bother responding to any of it?
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It seems there really is nothing but the scenes on Episode 0 and 2. I'd say ufotable disappointed, but they did give use three double length episodes, and that's ridiculous. I hope there's at least one on the second season to make up for no extra scenes.
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So wait, the 100 minutes thing is bullshit?

Isn't that false advertising? They specifically said the run time was 480 minutes. Even rounding that's not even close to the broadcast time.
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>>122904839
No Gaia did and for someone reason gave it to some random english warlord because seemingly the Saxons were bent on destroying the wrold
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>>122904875
Yeah in reality it was 3 minutes.
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>>122904850
The last episode will be one hour going with the time slots.
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The wish I concealed in my left hand is ?????
???????
An incomprehensible memory, and a world no one knows
I can't stand this anymore, the rain has been falling on me
The weakness of no longer believing in
the strength to protect what I want to protect
I'm searching for a tomorrow where I can accept everything
Brave shine!
If you extend your hand, ?????
This wounded ?????
Beyond the blades that were my goal
Lies a prayer drenched in wishes that will surpass time
Your brave shine
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>>122904839
Well, that's just head canon, connecting possibly unrelated pieces of info. Would be cool though.
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>>122904899
The episodes generally look better, right?
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>>122904611
Shirou vs Archer and Shirou vs Kotomine, even Nasu says that both moments are the biggest contrasts in the series basically. Archer is the spot-light that shines upon Shriou's flaws exposing them, while Kotomine is the wall hidden in the darkness that can't be seen readily as a large hurdle. Both of them are built up throughout their respective routes in dozens of different ways, and both test Shirou to his limits.

>Kirei Kotomine [Person's name]
>The arbiter appointed by both the Mages' Association and the Holy Church.
>He was Archer's Master during the previous War, but he maneuvered behind the scenes during this War as Lancer's Master.
>When Kotomine was in his early twenties, his father was appointed the arbiter of the Fuyuki Holy Grail War. After that, he was transferred to the Mages' Association under the Holy Church's "formal dispatch".
>As a survivor of the Fourth Holy Grail War, Kotomine inherited the mantle of arbiter.
>He bore the title of Executor from the Holy Church, and was proficient in Spiritual Healing.
>Even though he was a member of the Executors, he would not be a match for the Number Seven of the Burial Agency.
>His anti-spiritual attack power was exceptional, thus demonstrating that his faith was unwavering (albeit distorted).
>Although he favoured destruction, he was a "creation" type magus like Shirou. The skillfulness of his spiritual and psychological healing had reached Priest level.
>He was villainous but not wicked; cruel but not deviant.
>The ultimate antagonist of Fate.
>If Archer represented Shirou's flaws that were exposed under the spot light, then Kotomine could be called a wall you could only perceive in the dark.
>His initial concept was "the evil mastermind that was instantly recognizable".
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>>122904933
The episodes look much better
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>>122904895
Didn't they kinda win in the end? The world still seems kinda undestroyed.
Their plan must have not worked out. Probably.
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>>122904645
>All Evil of this World

Where'd you get that translation from?
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>>122904845
He gets buffs but he's still far from Servant tier. Only with Archer arm he comes close to having parameters of a Servant.
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>>122904899
Couldn't that get them in legal trouble? That's a typo consistent with all the sites selling it.
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>>122904933
They don't have that annoying sunglasses vision, for one.
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>>122905042
There has been tons of translations of that line across the years.
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>>122904989
What kind of stuff did they fix?

Also what could the 100 extra minutes be some staff interviews or some shit?
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>>122905007
Their evil beamspam obviously got countered by Excaliblast.
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>>122904839
more likely fairy is a catch-all term for elementals/nature spirits so whether it's True Ancestors or Primate Murder they all work for Gaia and thus are all "fairies" in the sense of absurd alien lifeforms the planet shits out whenever it's dealing with something it doesn't like very much

but for the purpose of discussion True Ancestors peaced out sometime during or after the 13th century so I think, they could have been around for Merlin and the Camelot gang to dick around with
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>>122905047
"Slightly less powerful than Servant tier" works too when you're literally inside your own RM and basically want more to kill the opponent before he has a chance to do anything at all.
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>>122905113

Or Taiga Dojos.

I Wish.
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>>122904799
Well this is the perfect opportunity to rectify it!
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>>122904895
The more you think about it, the more this is bullshit. The fact that it gave this to Saber, that it gave the blade that represents the planet and all warriors throughout history, to someone who was squabbling over a territorial dispute that was doomed anyway. She doesn't represent all warriors in history first and foremost, she just represents her few guys. Second an English King doesn't really need the super blade of the planet at all here, not just to failingly fight off the Saxons.

It could have given her anything as long as it was strong, but the more they go into detail on how this is the greatest thing ever and could destroy the universe and is really the crystalized Akasha Records in its true from, the more this is incredibly unfitting for Arthur.
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>>122900965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYN8qJvVyO8
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>>122905124
Evil beamspam sounds like an incredibly boring method of destroying the world.
The Holy Abortion War was better.
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>>122905176
Welcome to the Nasuverse
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>>122905165
>implying they need to fix anything
All they need to do is make sure Shirou is very calm like he was in the VN.
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>>122905161
>Taiga Dojos
I would forgive everything.
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>>122902251
>Ayako
Her name is Ayaka. Please remember her.
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>>122905092
Which voice actor do you think did the best performance in UBW anime?
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>>122905200
Everything is a beam or fires beams in the Nasuverse until proven differently
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>>122904875
They obviously included the soundtrack.
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>>122905176
And still King Arthur is one of the most popular and known legends ever.

And the sword was given to her by the Lady of the Lake, maybe she was just biased.
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If Ufotable decided to plan out how they would animate Tsukihime, how would they handle the, uh, 'darker' scenes?
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>>122902251
>>122902455
He is not, he is Jekyll's Master.
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>>122903482
Remove Egyptians! Manaka stronk!
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>>122905341
That's a real bitch move from Aniplex.
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>>122905176
Can Shiki kill Excalibur?
I'm talking about Ryougi Shiki here.
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>>122905252
Suwabe as Archer, without doubt. He pretty much one-upped his previous performances in every possible way.
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>>122905404
knk ep3
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>>122905352

Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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>>122904875
5 Blu-ray discs, 1 Soundtrack CD. What were you honestly expecting, new scenes for the loyal customers? Get real.
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So since we've finally got a glance of Merlin, what other 'background' characters would people like to see?
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>>122904845
People keep misquoting this, the only time Shirou has ever copied stats even figuratively was in HF, when he had Archer's arm that granted him tracing far beyond anything he could ever do at his current level.

No Shirou isn't always servant level anything, he's never servant level anything really in any other route. In fact right before fighting Gilgamesh he says "Against any other servant I would lose, but against this guy I might win". In the other routes when he traces a blades history he says the sword is moving on its own, to the point that it's breaking his body to hold onto the sword. Only in HF does he trace far beyond that level to also advance his body to take the strain.

It's like most of the time the subtle difference is lost on people in UBW; he's not even close to servant level perhaps, but against this one guy, with the perfect weapon, with the perfect compatibility, and a little luck he can pull it off. If he was fighting Saber using a mock-up of Cu Cuthulain's fighting style he'd get his ass kicked instantly, if he was fighting Cu with a mock-up of Arthur's fighting style he'd get his ass kicked instantly. A true master of their craft would never fall for his mock-up fighting for an instant, against any other servant this would be a mild nuisance, but Gilgamesh falls for it because he's not a master of anything, he's just an owner of weapons.

In fact in Fate route he used a mock-up of Saber's powers against Gilgamesh and got cut in half instantly. It's odd how he wasn't phased by shit at all there but was in UBW, but we can chalk up part of it to him panicking.
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>>122905341
Here is the answer.
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>>122905341
The Fate/Zero box sets had the soundtrack and didn't do that, though.
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>>122905464
Well the point is anyway; it's like Shiki vs Nero, Shiki wasn't shit compared to Nero if we put it into actual numbers, but because of the compatibility at play there, he was able to dominate. Shiki isn't DAA tier by far, but against this guy in particular, it's a bad match for Nero.
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>>122902455
Who is this guy? A new caster?
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>>122904354
Achilles is the man. Atalanta should be ashamed of herself for turning this hunk down.
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>>122905241
Same.

>>122905404
They'd include them like they did with Remaining Sense of Pain.

Also, one movie per route would be perfect for Tsukihime.
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>>122905464
Gil has B rank strength. E rank strength is 10 times what a normal human should be capable of.

Bullshit Shirou isn't getting stronger from the weapons.
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>>122905547
Merlin

Read the posts
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>>122905463
Not a background character even if he pretty much is, but I'd like a bit more info on Herc during life. we never see him without mad Enhancement, so I hope at the least we see him in different classes in Grand Order.
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>>122905547
Merlin.
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>>122905552
Who'd win in a fight, Rin w/ Lancer or this guy?
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>>122905464
Him tracing stats is literally the only reason that him beating Gil makes any sense. It doesn't really matter, we can just chalk it up to plot armor either way, it's the same thing as the Fate route "miracle"
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>>122905589
Not Lancer.
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Which track is the one that plays at the end of episode 0?
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>>122905571
strenght doesn't matter if all you're doing is clumsily flailing at a guy whose entier thing is dodge rolls
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>>122905404
I am more interested in how would they even do the routes.
I guess they could just translate them 1:1 into anime format. This really reeks of "this is a VN adaptation" but any adaptation of Tsukihime that doesn't have both of the maid routes at the same time is automatically inferior to the novel.
Would it even work out in a series format? Wouldn't it work better as a series of films? The routes are a lot shorter than FSN's routes and there are too many of them.
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>>122905464
>the only time Shirou has ever copied stats even figuratively was in HF
Why do you assume he wasn't also doing it in other routes? His and Archer's magic is the same, why wouldn't they both be able to do the same thing.
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>>122905589
Lancer.
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>>122905571
Which is why Shirou beating Gil is a bit of a stretch. Shirou shows repeatedly that he is of no match against a Servant. Even a practically dead Archer was wrecking his shit hard.
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>>122905042
Accept all of the water of this ocean!
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>>122905686
>Even a practically dead Archer was wrecking his shit hard.
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>>122905642
All his stats matter when fighting a fucking servant. There's absolutely no way in hell Shirou is ever touching Gil unless he traces stats. A servant can beat any human to death with their bare hands, regardless of how well trained they are.
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>>122905686
I thought Shirou was in a perfect position as an advantage and if something went wrong he'd die immediately but that didn't happen because Gilgamesh was too busy having fun until

>uh oh, reality marble I saw this shit before!
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>>122905608
it makes sense because gil gets shit on every time anyone ever gets past his swordspam.

where Do people actually get the idea that his any good once you take away his toys?
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>>122905464
>the only time Shirou has ever copied stats even figuratively was in HF
False. He did that thing with Caliburn in the Fate route that allowed him to block attacks so fast that he wasn't even able to see coming.
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>>122905686
>thinking that Archer isn't invincible with infinite mana if the plot requires it
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>>122905552
Could Achilles defeat Gilgamesh?
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>>122905782
No.
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Why doesn't Archer just copy Gae bolg or any of Cu's NP when he fights him if he traces stat and skill?
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>>122905761
His sheer numbers? Going by the logic behind stats even beyond his sword spam the guy's a superhuman.
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>>122905761
It doesn't matter how bad you are with a sword when you're moving faster than the speed of sound and have hundreds of times more strength than your opponent.
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>>122905777
INDEPENDANT ACTION MUTHAFUCKA
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>>122905636
Why not?
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>>122905782
Yes.
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>>122905832
Read the VN.
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>>122905589
Lancer dies. Fucking E rank luck.
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>>122905743
I always wondered how Shirou was able to get close in the first place. Gil is pants on head retarded but I'd believe he'd start using that useless brain of his a little once the kid pops a RM.
>>
from Garden of Avalon

Excalibur is now an anti-planetary threat. a Final Phantasm

The holy sword was created inside the planet. The planet forged -- created -- this Divine Construct in regards to foreign enemies who seeked to destroy the planet.

Camelot was rebuilt by a lot by fairies. The round table served as the foundation stone while Excalibur powered the place.
Basically the round table was a Mystic Code.

Dragons went underground when Christian Era hit and fell asleep. There souls were long gone in the Backside of the World.
They're oil and minerals now and earth formations.

saberwank aside, this is pretty interesting actually
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>>122905782
Gil is the apex of servants if he actually tries.

So Achilles wins.
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>>122905782
Probably not. Maybe if Achilles uses Diatrecon at the very beginning.
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>>122904288
Saint George is a Greek Christian though

I can see him shitting on that crappy Sigurd clone
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>>122905837
>>122905840
Which we never see any proof of ever. Gil is never shown to be superhuman on anything but a statsheet, it's purely an informed ability.
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>>122905846
Independent action + Eye of the Mind (True) = OP = Batman.
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>>122905571
He isn't though, that sort of thing is directly talked about how it's tracing far beyond his level. Which is why its a big deal when he does it in HF when he has tracing infused into him so powerful that it's killing him.

Only exceptions to this might be Kansho and Bakuya, since it's noted in the data-book that they buff up DEF and SP.DEF when you're holding them both. That's a special ability of the blades in question. He isn't tracing stats at all though, it's a bit of a misconception when people think that.

>>122905649
>"How do we know that Shirou isn't casting UBW and launching hundreds of blades in Fate route, I mean their magic is the same so..."

Because we can see into the narrative every second, we can see Shirou's mind, and also the game itself explains what's going on in every point. this is one of the instances where we can indeed verify it. It's something far beyond him at the current level to do that without breaking. Which is why its noted that when the blades move by themselves normally when he traces someones fighting style and tactics he's breaking himself all over the place following the movements as it wounds the shit out of him to basically be dragged around by that car. In HF it's the first time we see him do this, and the narrative goes into how this is a big thing at the time that would normally be outside his territory and more into Archer's ability.

Archer is like 50x Shirou's level in tracing, projection, ability. He doesn't need to copy skills or tactics as much these days because he's honed his own style to a point where few can beat it, but he's got all the core abilities down far beyond what Shirou could do either way. There's a reason Shirou says he couldn't keep up with other servants even at his peak in UBW, but in HF he's able to do just that, at the cost of it killing him in a big way. He's obtained power far beyond what he should have at that point, at a particularly mortal cost of breaking down.

Read it
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>>122902961
>not posting the original track in the original scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAq4XbE2gA8

this was so fucking perfect
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>>122905761
From the fact that Nasu explicitly gives us his parameters. It's problematic because he needed good stats to go against Saber in Fate, which leaves him way too powerful for his match-up in UBW.
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>>122905915

Technically, Arturia is a Roman-Celtic Christian.
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>>122905890
Isn't the round table stuff how Excalibur works in Prototype?
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>>122905464
It's not a misquote, that's how his power works. His body is breaking because he can't handle that much power. Remember, it's not Shirou that does the fighting, it's the weapon that does, hence the whole his body moves with the flow of the weapon.

Something that people actually keep misquoting is the caliburn scene since they keep thinking that Caliburn became so strong due the sword and Saber being reunited, but nothing in the text supports that at all and the whole point of that scene is actually about Shirou's power hence it being titled "So as I pray, Unlimited Blade works."
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>>122905740
Two can play at this game

Archer during that fight was 1/10th of his real power
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>>122905963
>giving a fuck about what the stats say
>>
あれなー。原作だと「今まで躱す必要もない攻撃だったが、これだけは致命傷になるので迎撃した バーサー 力ー→宝具爆発による大惨事」。一方、アニメだと「セイバーによる致命傷でバーサー力ー反応できず→素で喰 らってさらにワンライフロストからの回復」とお考えください。都合、2機も残機減ってるんです ね。
ああ、アニメ版のゴッドハンド、3日で回復にしたのはその為かー

Well the Berserker thing was answered yesterday. In the VN Calabolg was fatal and Herc knew that that's why he intercepted.
In the anime he took the hit because he was still recovering? Anyone else want to give it a spin?

from BL
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>>122905928
He fights Saber in close combat in Fate. He is not good at it, but decent enough.
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>>122905928
>being this retarded
Gil is a servant, even if we assumed he had straight E stats he would still be far greater than any human.
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>>122905928
So either way we have to ignore something with the plot for this stuff to make sense. Either Shirou is getting boosted, or Gil is weaker than actually stated.
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>>122905949
Where, specifically, does it say that Shirou cannot normally trace stats?
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>>122905946
Independent Action + Fuyuki gay bar.
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>>122906003
Archer is 10times as strong as Herakles.
You heard it here first
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>>122905890
>a Final Phantasm
What?
>round table was a Mystic Code
What did it do? Was it really-really sturdy or something? Or really-really round?
Were its chairs really well-behaved?
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>>122906019
Even ignoring the stats, he one-on-ones Saber in Fate.
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>>122905890
If Gaia could make anti-planetary threat phantasms, why didn't it make one to kill Crimson Moon instead of getting Zel to do it?
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>>122906044
It doesn't say that anywhere. Him tracing stats is quite literally the only explanation for him beating Gil, or blocking Berserker's strikes in Fate, or keeping up with Kuzuki.
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>>122905963
He loses to Saber in a single blow and Shirou points out that Gil is actually a terribly clumsy fighter compared to the others his fought so far.
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>>122905949
Dude, just stop with those wall of text and go read the complete material. It has been confirmed that copying stats is a natural part of tracing.
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>>122906028
My spin on it is that it's a bullshit change that happened for no reason other than to make Saber look good.
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>>122906089
It stopped the evil saxons from destroying the world
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>>122906120
Maybe Zelretch IS the anti-planetary threat phantasm
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>>122906003
How are they going to animate Archer's death from Gilgamesh? If I remember right, he is stormed with swords piercing every part of his body until he is rubble.
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>>122905782
If Achilles' Dual Field works against Gil's NPs, yes.
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>>122906028
The VN route and the anime are different because we're not telling UBW story in the anime, as the name suggests.

S2 will make it clear, Nasu is involved in the script and he is creating something new, some thinks that he's creating a backstory for Archer, I do believe Nasu will deliver us a new ending.
>>
Question. How popular were the VN's before you got the FSN anime?
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>>122906043
Wasn't he stated to be boosted in the VN itself?
I am pretty certain he did become stronger and faster by tracing weapons. Does anybody have a screenshot from where the VN talks about it?
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>>122906120
Stop thinking too hard about the Nasuverse
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>>122900965
>Egyptian pharoah hanging out with a Sumerian warlord from Mesopotamia

I somehow don't think they'd be partying.
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>>122905643
For Arc, Ciel or Satsuki plotline I think a 25 ep. series would be fine, with new scenes here and there obviously as expansion is desperately needed thanks to Kagestu, MB, interviews, and so on.

The Mansion plots is where it can get really complex. I don't know how they'd do that.
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>>122906136
If Shirou can copy stats, then why is it stated that any other servant would beat him? Why would Nasu go out of his way to make that point during the Gil fight?
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>>122906076
That is called hyperbole. Nasu loves them.
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>>122906169
Popular enough to be the first or second VN anyone here read.

Outside 4chan? Less popular but still pretty much known by any shitty weaboo that adventured himself into VNs.
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>>122906159
>death
>Archer being killable in the UBW route
>ever
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>>122906205
Because copying stats and skill don't mean you hold a candle against a hero.
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>>122906168
>backstory for Archer
good, I wanna that too

>new ending
FUCK NO
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>>122906168
>we're not telling UBW

We're not getting Unlimited Blade Works' story, in an anime called "Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works"?

>I do believe Nasu will deliver us a new ending

Why? UBW True is perfectly fine.
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>>122905890
>>122906089
The whole Excalibur being a Last Phantasm is a thing from years ago. From the very first side material actually.
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>>122906169
FSN VN was highly anticipated before it even came out because Tsukihime was a doujin smash hit. The anime didn't make it popular, it got an anime because it was very popular.
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>>122905893
Fucking kek'd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7BYJu3YoKg

I can't believe it's only one minute.
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>>122906205
He probably can't actually get up to a level high enough to be even with Servants, it's just enough to barely keep up. Or something.
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>>122906245
Yeah, and I doubt that Nasu will stop playing his vidya games to write a new ending anyways.
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>>122906049
I could see him passing himself off as a male prostitute and then telling his "clients" to send the money he got to Shirou, just to screw with him.
For maximum effect, Rin should be the one who sees it first.
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>>122905770
Read what I've been saying, that's not copying stats, that's copying fighting style.

He likens it to the blade moving by itself, not "Copying stats". If you can't get the difference between those that's a bit on you, but it is entirely different. Shirou isn't able to perceive shit at that point, the blade is just acting on its own by its previous owner's will.

Difference is that he's calling upon the memory of the blade to act upon its true owners ability, and in Fate route it did that for a moment, but Shirou was shoved along for the ride while breaking his body, he did not trace Saber's stats in that moment, he traced the memory of her fighting style.

In HF he traced Berserker's fighting style for a brief moment, but also traced the power to keep up with it so it wouldn't just break his body as he was pushed along for the ride in the same manner he was in Fate route. The body gets worn out with the blade pulling it along for the ride fast unless you make the body able to handle the strain. He'd be dead trying to lift up Hercules sword without that much.
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>>122906169
FSN was one of the best selling VNs of all time even before the DEEN Anime existed.
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>>122906169
F/SN has been the best selling VN in Japan way before the anime. And it has always been popular on /a/. I don't know about the rest of the west though.
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>>122906043
Gil is weaker than his stats show for the same reason Archer is stronger.
Skill and training aren't stats. Gil fought godzilla sized monsters with his bare hands, he has no idea what to do in a swordfight.
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>>122906076
Bullshit. Was he using Durandal for that strike?
Only logical explanation is that he's downloading the strength stat from it's original user, and that said user had like A+ or higher STR.
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>>122906205
Because even if he copies the stats it doesn't mean he can keep up with legendary heroes with legendary skills and experience.
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>>122906120
Will we ever see that fight?
Really I just want more Zeletch in general. I like what we've seen of him so far.
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>>122906245
Just wait and see.
The ending is good, no one is telling otherwise. But at the same time something new from the author is always more enjoyable than repeating what I've seen already.
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>>122906394
Or >>122906208 is actually what is that line about.
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>>122906388
>Gil fought godzilla sized monsters with his bare hands
No in the Nasuverse he spammed swords at them.
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>>122906388
That's ridiculous. If you are packing strength 10 times stronger than a human, no matter what you're swinging a regular guy is dead, but Gil even goes beyond that: he has B rank strength.
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>>122906388
>he has no idea what to do in a swordfight
He fought Saber in Fate just fine.
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>>122906200
I honestly think a 2.5 hour movie per route is probably enough. Tsukihime is actually really short and a lot of details can be portrayed faster in visual format.
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>>122906364
Honestly the difference between "the sword remembers how it was used to it moves really fast pulling me along" and "I trace the stats of the sword's user so I can use it like they did" seems mostly academic, either way he's doing something superhuman.
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>>122906430
>But at the same time something new from the author is always more enjoyable than repeating what I've seen already.

No, that's retarded. I want what was on the label, "Unlimited Blade Works". DEEN shoved in original content and no one liked that.
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>>122906453
You are assuming that Nasu can into numbers and logic
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>>122906430
Nobody liked what DEEN did, though.
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>>122906182
>Wasn't he stated to be boosted in the VN itself?

Not once, it's kind of fanon really, with people saying "Well can you tell me he wasn't always boosted, just because nothing says he was?". That's just how they've rationalized Gilgamesh losing here.
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>>122906514
He is just spouting bullshit, so why care?
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>>122906486
THIS CHAIR.THIS CHAIR.THIS CHAIR.THIS CHAIR.THIS CHAIR.
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>>122906205
Because obviously Shirou's power isn't ridiculously OP to the point of always being an instant win. The reason Gilgamesh can easily beat any servant is because he has a counter to every hero. Shirou isn't a hero, so there is nothing to counter. And due to how UBW works, he can match Gilgamesh in fire power forcing Gilgamesh to use his close combat skills or rely on weapons he can't fully use, creating the opportunity for Shirou to win. Any other servant would have superior skill and knowledge with the weapons they use and be able to defeat Shirou for that reason. Just look at the Archer vs Lancer fight in UBW. It takes everything Archer has to stop Lancer, and he loses that battle because Lancer uses an ability with Gae Bold Gilgamesh would never be able to use since Gil is just an owner, not a user.
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>>122906205
Because the stats, fighting style, skills, techniques, etc. are borrowed, not his own. They're also degraded, the NPs can be broken and they also put a huge strain on his mind and body from having to keep the image of the weapon intact. There are many flaws in tracing, which makes Shirou only equivalent to a flawed servant.
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>>122906459
He lost the minute she got close him. That was rather the point.
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>>122906629
Well it has to be rationalized somehow man, you can't just ignore it and say "eh, Gil had a cold that day".
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>>122906601
>>122906514
There's a big difference between DEEN doing it and Nasu himself.
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>>122906694
You know Nasu was on board the DEEN anime too.
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>>122906146
Was it specifically an anti-saxon phantasm, or something?
>>122906271
I didn't read the side material yet, to be honest. I just picked up a lot in these threads, and also read all the VNs.
Could you elaborate, if it's not too hard? I know it's my problem if I didn't read it but I'm just really curious.
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>>122906693
He did have a human body. And viruses are always evolving, so the oldest cure in GoB wouldn't help him.
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>>122903531
"Its the Game of Thrones of anime"

Yes I agree. And tsukihine is the walking dead. Both shit.
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>>122905147
>but for the purpose of discussion True Ancestors peaced out sometime during or after the 13th century so I think
They didn't "peace out," they were slaughtered by Arcueid after she drank Roa's blood. The only survivors were Arcueid herself and her half-breed "sister," who hung out with Dead Apostles more anyway.
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>>122906769
But surely he has the prototype for the ancient Babylonian uber-tylenol.
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>>122906694
Nasu wrote bondage Sakura.
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so is a workable bd up yet
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>>122906751
It is just called that, a Last Phantasm or ultimate illusion. Nothing is explained about it.

Basically is a way to say that Excalibur is actually really special in a conceptual way.
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>>122906751
>anti-saxon phantasm
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>>122906670
They seem pretty close here
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>>122906860
So did gil ever manage to get a panty shot?
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>>122906810
Not sure if kidding but F/Z is legitimately the Game of Thrones of anime. F/SN is more comparable to His Dark Materials or something
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>>122906827
Sakura is shit in every way, Nasu wrote her, you have a point.
>>122906750
Well, Can I at least pray?
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>>122906817
Well, Gil's the kind of person who would refuse to admit to weakness, so he wouldn't take medicine anyway.
>>122906833
AnimeBytes only, it seems.
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>>122906932
>Well, Can I at least pray?
No.
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>>122906845
I mean, that's really unspecific. What exactly did it do?
From what was said so far, it could as well be a Phantasm that gave every saxon in the world a terrible headache, or something.
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>>122906932
No______
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>>122906913
Probably, Saber was passed out for a while.
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>>122906750
>>122906932
He never wrote anything directly, not in the DEEN anime nor in the Ufotable one. He just gave them some ideas.
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>>122906860
That's from after Saber gets hit with Ea. It is stated multiple times that Saber's skill in CQC is superior to Gilgamesh's. That's why when she shows up in UBW after defeating Assassin, Gilgamesh has to step back because he knows that he won't be able to beat her in such a fight.
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>>122906364
>that's not copying stats, that's copying fighting style.
Copying a fighting style is useless if you don't have the stats to back it up.
You're just arguing semantics right now anyways. It doesn't matter what shit Shirou is downloading from the weapon, the facts are that wathever it is, it allows him to fight a servant with B rank strength and C rank agility and endurance, a being that is tens or hundreds of times stronger, faster and more durable than him.
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>>122906932
Rude
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>>122907041
And people say he was in jobber mode during UBW.
Atleast Shirou wasn't unconscious during the fight
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>>122907041
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>>122906953
I wonder if anyone will upload anything on something else before tuesday
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>>122906932
Sakura is perfect.
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>>122906827
I heard the opposite in the last thread and now I don't know what to believe
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>>122907128
I wonder whether my download finishes before tuesday
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>>122906120
If I had to guess, the Crimson Moon wasn't a threat to the planet until after he and Zel were already fighting. A threat to humanity, sure, but most of the time Brunestud was on Earth he was just dicking around, killing humans, and making some of the first Dead Apostles.
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>>122907116
Truly, a Chaotic Good hero.
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>>122906399
Didn't Nasu say he would need tons of money just to do this fight any justice?
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>>122904875
Is it confirmed that they actually said that and wasn't just some misinformation by fans?
They didn't actually lie for F/Z - they said it would contain 40 minutes of new footage and it had like 35, which isn't 40 minutes but it isn't too wrong either. F/Z had the OST as well so they can't mean this.
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>>122907150
TRULY A PERFECT SLUT.
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>>122907158
Is your internet unbearably slow or something? With Fate, it's bound to have at least an insane amount of peers.
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>>122907199
Every single site selling the BD lists 480 minutes in both English and Japanese.

The only logical explanation for that stretch is the soundtrack, but like you said, they didn't inflate the number with F/Z, so this is an odd change.
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>>122907220
It's literaly one seeder.
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>>122907151
That's how TM threads work. People say some made up thing one thread and then it gets repeated a lot until someone puts in the effort to disprove it.
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So is the new ending by LiSa is out?
I loved the original version by I somehow liked the new one too.
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>>122907295
Whole OST is out. Check Nyaa.
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>>122907195
Well he has money now. He just doesn't want to work. besides, that's one of those events that works better when you only hear legends of it.
How about a series of Carnival Phantasm skits about Zelretch universe hopping?
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>>122904850

^ Is this the same guy who posted
>>>122902268 ? So there's no discernible amount of content that was added beyond episode 0 and 2?

Ever since I heard about the 'additional 90 minutes of content' I feared that the OST was considered as being a part of it. Gonna be disappointed if that's how it ultimately went down, and with no Taiga dojos to show for it.
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>>122907268
There are fags that actually believe that he used this version of Ea in Fate/Stay Night.
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>>122902991
having a series which contains a manga and an anime and fairly huge fanbase is better than having a route
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>>122906810
>tsukihime
>bad
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>>122907367
>Tsukihime
>Not serviceable at best

One day the remake will come, and polish it into the jewel it was meant to be. Maybe.
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>>122907367
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>>122905424
Seems like one of the BL users is actually translating this for real now, but only the Beautiful Mind part it seems.
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>>122907323
As much as I'd love that, if Prisma Ilya is any indication TM is avoiding giving him a voice yet. The manga had him directly address Rin and Luvia over the phone, but in the anime they added Waver as an intermediary. So it'd either have to be a manga, or the anime would have to narrate all of Zelretch's actions. Which could actually work, if they do it like a children's storybook.
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>400 dollars for two minutes of new animation, the removal of some dimmed lighting, and trailers
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>>122907097
>It doesn't matter what shit Shirou is downloading from the weapon,
>semantics

I'd say that's a bigger digression; like "Pfft, that's stupid, I mean Rin using magic, Zelretch uses magic, same shit". There's stuff that Shirou can do as the basics before he understands how his magic works, stuff he can do right after learning how his power works, and stuff he can do ten years later when he's in his prime or even has been summoned stronger than his prime self potentially.

Data books
>Thaumaturgy: C-
>During his life time, the sorceries learned by Emiya are unremarkable. Before becoming a Heroic Spirit, even “reinforcement” was quite difficult.

Archer is better than any Shirou from his life, even during alive he never really came to grips with even reinforcement.

There's basic projection, intermediate projection, and advanced projection; Shirou in most routes is in the basic or intermediate program, Archer is advanced. You're saying "Pfft, same shit, Shirou can do anything Archer can do already", but he can't. He's a world away that was killing Shirou if he tried to use his abilities when it was too advanced for him at that point, like a kid taking first grade math trying to suddenly read calculus. When Shirou copied Archer's skills and power it was far beyond what he would ever get for years to come, stuff he might never learn even, stuff that would blow his brain trying, it wasn't just "Well whatever, same shit, Shirou can do all the same shit".

Also note, Shirou from life always had trouble with reinforcement until he became a heroic spirit, which is what he would use to strengthen himself in the first place. It's not "Well Fate and UBW Shirou could easily" says there they had trouble with it. HF is Archer's power though.
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So what I should watch? The old stuff or the new anime and waiting for season 2?

Is there some sort of order?
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>>122907559
http://pastebin.com/BxZKmaaw
Take this and leave quickly.
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>>122907546
UBW Shirou downloaded experience from Archer in UBW. He got UBW ten years earlier than Archer did.
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The entirety of FSN would benefit from the removal of explicit servant stats. They never actually come into play in the story, and only lead to dumb conversations like this.
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>>122905875
Eh all i remember was Archer was having a hard time with Cu in front of the church, why doesn't he just trace his skill and stat so he can fight equally instead using K&B and tanking a gae bolg to the face?
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>>122907476
I really like the idea of a storybook. Kind of like the narration for Berserkers first errand.
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>>122907445
>>122907458
Hey, it wasn't ideal, but Hisui route was pure gold, and you know it. And the whole game was really good all throughout.
As flawed as it was, I love it to death.
It's genuinely great.
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>>122907546
He has difficult with reinforcement, not projection.

And when was Servant Emiya shown using reinforcement in the first place?
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>>122907624
Because tracing is always weaker than the original. If he traces Cu's skills and stats he'll just become an inferior copy and lose even harder. He also suffers even more penalties if tracing something that is not a sword or not directly related to swords.
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>>122907609
I'm inclined to agree with you, but understanding of how God Hand works relies on stat ranks being a thing. And without a Luck stat, Gae Bolg not killing Saber in the common route becomes even more bullshit.
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>>122907664
Yeah, definitely. I wasn't particularly hooked by Arcueid's route, but Ciel's got me somehow. After that all the Far Side routes were great. If the remake had a Sacchin route to fill out and differentiate the near Side routes a bit, I'd be happy enough.
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>>122907624
see >>122907745
Also he would never be able to copy the heart-stab anyway
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>>122907745
>not surpassing the original
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>>122907678
He either has permanent Reinforcement on his eyes, or he recasts it whenever he snipes or observes something at long distance.
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>>122907445
They ruined ciel's design
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>>122907609
I like them, you just have to take them as what they are. An abstraction that it is not exact.
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>>122907886
Who fucking cares for ciel?
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>>122907886
>Caring about Ciel
Arcuied's the problem.
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>>122907886
That's nothing compared to the travesty of what they did to Arc.
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>>122900965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWJIA5VF58

I wish.
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>>122907834
Have you missed the part that this only works because Gil is a shit?
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>>122907205
Far too often people make this mistake. She's used goods rather than a slut.

A slut is someone who goes around all around taking in whatever dicks she can find by her own will, doesn't care. A whore is someone who does something similar but they get paid to do it, or maybe that's a prostitute. Used goods are anyone who has known the touch of the other gender no matter how it came about. Christmas Cake is someone who has never known the touch of the opposite gender even past 25, because there really is no winning here.

Sakura isn't going around looking for all kinds of dicks, she just wants that sempai penis, but can't have it and never will because fuck it, you're barely a heroine. She's solid on her path, everything else is just her getting raped a lot by various animals similar to Kohaku's story. Everything about this is a matter of semantics and autism.
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>>122902455
>>122905463
Why is Merlin's outfit so very Japanese? Are we just going with "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit?"
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>>122907678
Projection, strengthening, reinforcement; those are the three pieces of UBW, all are part of the reality marble and are necessary for creating blades

You ask "When's the last time he..." all the time, any time he makes a sword its pat of the process basically. Any magic Shirou uses in the story is him pulling off a small part of UBW and using it individually. All magics are the same magic.
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>>122907886
Ciel's original hairstyle was awful. They made it look pretty decent.
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>>122906285
So you think it deserved better?
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>>122908098
I just ignore everything that has anything to do with Gardens of Avalon to preserve my sanity
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>>122902040
Lancer is Shinji from the future.
Sakura is a reincarnation of Rider.
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>>122906238
The VN specifically says that Gilgamesh murdered him, I was wondering how they would have played that scene out
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>>122907474
I'm mostly just interested in Paracelsus anyway. Kinda wish Strange Fake would get the attention instead.
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>>122907951
I'm honestly okay with it. Still prefer the old look, but really all new Arc is missing is air intakes.
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>>122908098
It doesn't look very Japanese to me, but the chest piece reminds me of Karna.
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>>122908208
Spoiler that shit, faggot.
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>>122907995
I thought Christmas cake were former sluts. Female witches don't exist.
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>>122908098
Why is he a futafag?
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>>122908208
It all makes sense now
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>>122905890
inb4 Ea gets upgraded to Anti-Universe
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>>122907745
Why don't he traces Herc or Kojiro?

I just re-read the scene and Archer was barely keeping up even though Cu was kind of going easy.
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>>122908285
because he is a gentleman withokay taste
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>>122908202
But there is actually a lot of cool lore stuff on it. Just ignore the Saber wanking.
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>>122908295
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>>122908257
Archer is an alternate universe version of Kirei. Ever wonder where Kirei's blades come from? Rin just summoned him wrong.
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>>122908361
Kojiro's technique is too bullshit to copy
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>>122908399
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>>122908361
Kojiro's technique doesn't have an actual history. It's not something that even virtually or theoretically exists. It's nothing but grail magic.
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>>122908370
Honestly, the only real Saberwanking we have so far is the Excalibur thing. And we're probably never going to see it in full power anyways, so it's just an extra bone to throw to Takeuchi.
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>>122908212
I actually wondered how nobody ever licensed any Fate novels. Everybody who has heard of anime at least knows F/SN by name and the LNs would get a way faster translation than the fan projects, not to mention that a bunch of them doesn't even has any translators in the first place.
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>>122908396
Saved. Anyone want to add Sakura with Rider's dagger?
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>>122908465
>And we're probably never going to see it in full power anyways
We do at the finale.
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>>122908457
No, the technique exists. Fake Assassin is just a nameless hobo who lived on the mountain and perfected his technique trying to hit sparrows. He isn't Kojiro, but he fits the mold closely enough.
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>>122908465
No that is just info thrown into the Saberwank.
I kinda want to see how big the beams of Cu's castle are now
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>>122908234
The flowing sleeves and the poofy pant legs in particular remind me of a Shinto priest. All those ropes and knots feek very Japanese to me, too.
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>>122908510
The planet-busting Excalibast? Finale of what?
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>>122908439
I'm pretty sure it's physically impossible to hold that pose with an injury like that.
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>>122908562
And the animal ears
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>>122908525
The difference is that FA is just a facsimile of the actual hobo, and so his his ability.
>>122908574
>The planet-busting Excalibast?
That doesn't exist.
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>>122908361
>Why don't he traces Herc or Kojiro
Kojiro's sword is not a NP, it's just a sword, therefore it does not "contain" Tsubame Gaeshi, which is some bullshit personal skill he came up with himself.
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>>122908602
According to Garden of Avalon, Excalibur apparently has the dormant power to ward off planets. But like I said, that'll never actually be put into practice, and is just there to sound cool.
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>>122908588
Have you tried?
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>>122908600
What kind of animal has three-part ears like that? Hell, I'm not even sure those ARE his ears. They look like they might be some kind of flower he's wearing in front of his actual ears.
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>>122908574
The world, of course.
We need somehow to reach the plot for tsukihime 2 and NOTES.
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>>122908574
Read it well, it is not a planet busting Excaliblast.
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>>122908649
So, Excalibur = Ea now?
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>>122908625
Well Cu came up with the causality inverting heart-stab.
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>>122908649
I'm insinuating that there is no such thing as a dormant power to ward of planets, and such a thing is nonsense that couldn't possibly exist. That would put it on a level above Ea, which it is far far below. The sword itself is designed as not special aside from being a great mana conduit. If you put sorcery-tier mana in front of anything, sure it could blow up a planet.
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>>122908707
So?
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>>122908691
It got the power to protect the planet from things that can threaten it. Not a planet busting power.
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>>122908707
Not really, that was always black magic. Pre-medieval magic was necessarily better than a modern equivalent.
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>>122908730
I don't think you understand how truly insane breaking Reality Marbles is in the Nasuverse.
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>>122908813
Planets != RMs
read notes
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>>122908730
See it as a hero boost. That is just what it is.
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Fate/Stay Night UBW OST is absolute baloney. There isnt a single good comfy track that can even touch Madder red town. Its all edgy orchestral shit, who is the dingus that wrote it?
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>>122907594
>http://pastebin.com/BxZKmaaw

It does not explain at all if there is some sort of order or not.
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>>122908810
Age of gods magic ended 2000 years ago, magic (Thaumaturgy) has been evolving since, so Medieval magic is worse than modern magic.
Of course true magic and magic from artifacts/NPs don't count.
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>>122908813
What? RMs are really fragile, as the World is constantly trying to crush them.
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>>122908862
I don't think anyone who actually read Gardens of Avalon said Excalibur was a planet-buster, that was just other people misinterpreting what they said.
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>>122908906
>edgy orchestral shit

Yeah fuck off.
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>>122908875
See, it's not a property of the weapon, it's an enchantment.
>>122908906
Prepare to have a liberal art student tell you how wrong you are for having an aesthetic concept of art.
>>122908929
>Cú Chulainn ... is an Irish mythological hero who appears in the stories of the Ulster Cycle,
>The Ulster Cycle ... is a body of medieval Irish heroic legends and sagas ... taking place around or before the 1st century AD.
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>>122908649
No, that has never been said.
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>>122900965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kfrh_NVpds
Comfy as hell. Too bad it's only a minute long.
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>>122908970
Reality Marbles are only fragile because they're trying to compete against Gaia's much more powerful Reality Marble. That's what "the World" means in that context.

Meanwhile Ea can rip through Gaia's Reality Marble, which doesn't have to struggle against a more powerful one trying to crush it from the outside, like wet tissue paper.
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>>122908691
Ea is above Excalibur. The fact that Excalibur is much stronger than shown only validates the statement that the gap between them isn't so massive as the Fate route made it appear.
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>>122905955
11/10 scene
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>>122909028
Okay okay, enemies of the planet, my bad
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>>122909073
Now I'm confused.
Are you implying the world is a Reality Marble created by gaia?
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>>122909094
Further, anything Excalibur can be used for, Ea can be used for better, by a good owner. And yet Gilg is pure shit with actually using swords.
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>>122908906
WHERE CAN I FIND AN EXTENDED VERSION OF MADDER RED TOWN
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>>122909139
That is EXACTLY what the world is.
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>Excalibur is Anti-Type now

Isn't this basically a retcon? How are they going to explain that it was always referred to as Anti-Fortress?

Also, is it stronger than Ea now?
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>>122909139
He might have his terms wrong, I don't remember, but if you don't know what he meant, read notes.
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>>122909139
That's exactly what it is dude
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>>122909160
But Gil is a good owner, as far as Ea and Enkidu are concerned. It's everything else that he can't usee properly.
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>>122909222
Don't know whether it's valid, but good point.
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>>122909193
It has never been stronger than Ea. This just closes the gap between them somewhat.
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>>122908906
You have shit taste
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>>122908810
>By the way, Piercing Death Thorn was a technique Lancer developed himself.
Side Material of Fate
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>>122909193
Anti-fortress refers to its area of effect or whatever.
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>>122909336
What about HA?
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>>122909396
What's with HA?
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>>122909418
It gave a different explanation for lancer's development.
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>>122908588
He's a magical overpowered spirit with specific ability to selectively ignore death. He can probably manage somehow.
Not to mention, wasn't the original Cu in the Ulster Cycle standing when he died too? I'm pretty certain he did, so it's actually even a part of his legend.
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>>122909418
HA is sHAt
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>>122909193
It is not called Anti-Type, just that it was made to fight enemies of the planet. People just loves to blown things out of proportion.
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>>122908499
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>>122909454
No it didn't.
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>>122908707
And Sasaki practiced so hard at swinging his sword that the laws of reality just tagged out.
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>>122909472
He tied himself to a rock if I remember correctly.
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>>122909472
>standing when he died
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I'm still confused about Sasaki. Was it a trick or was it really the second sorcery?
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>>122909632
Yes
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>>122909588
>DEEN
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>>122908910
Slightly outdated.
HA is translated fully; UBW anime is decent.
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>>122909476
So are the Saxons confirmed as enemies of the planet?
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>>122909053
>Saber
>Marble Phantasm
wat
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>>122909688
No, the Lady of the Lake was just biased and gave such a sword to her.
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>>122909013
I might be mistaken but isn't the general consensus that the Ulster Circle is set aroun 1 century BC?
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>>122909668
Did you mean "DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!"?
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what is sabers weakpoint?
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I bet we're not getting Emiya next season.
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>>122908439
But that was when he got hit with Fragarch
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>>122909743
Remind me, what the hell did saxons do to piss her off so much?
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>>122909820
Shirou
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>>122909823
>literally zero tracks even resemble the original game ost
No shit
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>>122909820
Getting cucked
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>>122909820
Her head.
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>>122909875
>>122909823
Archer's theme is Emiya.
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>>122909053
I don't think we've ever seen a Saber with a reality marble, that'd be pretty op, that's like Berserkers having a RM which is impossible.
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>>122909501
I remember him learning magic and earning Gae Bolg from a magician-gone-witch. Is 刺し穿つ死棘の槍 not actually inherent to Gae Bolg?
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>>122909875
Nothing in the DEEN anime OST resembled the original game's OST, except for EMIYA.
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>>122909902
Quit forcing this meme
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