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A combination of overly busy worldbuilding and affected, utterly

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A combination of overly busy worldbuilding and affected, utterly self-serious dialogue makes the show's more dramatic moments often verge into self-parody, with characters' discussions of honor and power levels feeling more like a price of entry than an asset. This can't be understated - unless you find dialogue like “impressive - I should have taken your head seven times, but it remains attached” either thrilling or at least funny, Fate's writing will present some roadblocks. And beyond the individual lines of dialogue, in contrast to Fate/Zero's complex narrative web and clear themes, Unlimited Blade Works is both more simplistic in plotting (it only really follows two Masters as they wander about their days) and more half-baked in ideas.

The frequent betrayals and dramatic turns can sometimes feel based more in videogame logic than anything tangible. Characters will defeat others with powers they've only just introduced, rules of mage combat will be established only to be broken, and villains will repeatedly pull that “I'll get you next time!” trick before spiriting themselves away.

And on the thematic front, the show's reflections on justice and the meaning of a hero never really rise above the identities of the characters expressing them. The treacly fantasy writing attempts to dress up personal disagreements as philosophical battles, but the ultimate effect often just comes off as needlessly obtuse or totally incoherent. We know Shirou's naive, we don't need lofty speeches from every other character expressing that fact.
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>>122712990
The lines in this episode were so terrible they were passable. Some were probably “helped” by the translators, especially early in the episode, but some were just chuuni delusions delivered straight. Then again, it’s a fantasy shounen show, that’s sort of where you expect such lines to appear.
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>>122712990
1) “I don’t know who he is, but to hold Saber at bay he must be a master swordsman indeed.” – This reads like entry-level fanfiction. Such awkward phrasing, especially if you know what era Archer is from.

“I should hardly call him a hero if he failed to stop the likes of you.” – Make this stop, please.


2) “That man lacks the skill to make a master swordsman reveal their name.” – No, he just chose he doesn’t care to hear it.

4) “I have the advantage, so how can I not break his defense?” – “Impressive, I should have taken your head seven times, but it remains attached.” – Such amazing lines. Much wow.

1) “You impress me, Caster,” he said with a roguish smirk upon his face.

“And you failed my test, lowlier even than my current Servant-dog,” said she, the loathsome witch.

“If you but give me another chance, I’ll try harder to meet your expectations,” the master of witty repartee retorted.

4) “Fighting for others but not for yourself is hypocrisy.” – How so? Because you won’t admit fighting for others is your selfish goal? “You’re not fighting for victory, but for peace.” – An important distinction, and some would say exposes a contradiction, how does one literally fight for peace? But is it so bad of a goal? Perhaps, when there can be only one winner.

Fate/Stay Night is a chuuni show – for chuuni fantasy having, and filled with chuuni characters. At least three characters, only thus far, went and said something to the effect of, “It’s a rare thing to find a worthwhile opponent, shouldn’t waste it by fighting them when they’re injured.” – Sort of missing the point. Also, the Holy Grail War is all about summoning such worthwhile opponents to one place.
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>>122712990
i agree
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>>122712990
agreed
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>>122712990
oi agree
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>>122712990
>>122713106
>>122713242

i agreed
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>>122712990
Agreed.
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>>122713242
you impress me, OP
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>>122712990
i disagree
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>>122712990
I know this show is shit. For fatefag weebs.. watch HF
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>>122712990
you withstood my secret attack..
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Wow, you can use thesaurus to write a passive-aggressive insult towards a show.
Witty indeed, or so you would believe.
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That's why Fate/Zero is superior anime in all Fate franchise. The ones who prefer otherwise are only rinfags.
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>>122712990
i agree bro.
>>122713922
Nice argument
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>>122713997
F/Z has way better writing than F/SN, yeah. No chuuni shit like >>122713911
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No.
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>>122712990
i agreed with you cutie
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>>122712990
yup
>>122714088
fuck off fatefag
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>>122712990
>>122713106
>>122713242

not really
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>>122712990
fuck off
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>>122712990
coming from a tripfag
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>>122712990
i agreeo
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>>122712990
spot on
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>>122712990
rorico pleasr go
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>>122712990
fuck me harder fuck my opinions in the ass
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>>122712990
Fate hate thread?
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>>122714624
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>>122712990
agreed fu
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>>122713801
>baww someone is ironic to me on the internet!
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>>122712990
>>122713106
>>122713242
maybe
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Big fucking deal OP, I mean if you aren't watching Fate just for the action then you're retarded.
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>copying posts that reek leddit
>people falling for it

this is what /a/ has come to
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>Adaptation of a VN
>A VN that uses words to describe what's going on
>Describes details of character movements and actions and facial expressions
>People from old ages speaking in such a manner is bad
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