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Dragon Ball Z Revival of F Chapter 2

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http://www.mangaumaru.com/archives/380750
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>>122696372
That's clearly fanart.
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>>122696465
Just like gold freezer
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>>122696372
Why must Whis be so homosexual? Why couldn't Whis be a cute girl instead? Why does Toriyama hate cute girls with high power levels?
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Well, it's confirmed trunks time machine is the most OP thing in all of dragonball. Even whis can only travel back a few minutes.
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>>122696372
yamcha is so irrelevant now they can't even be bothered to put him in anymore
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>>122697638
>tfw Yamcha is absorbed by some wird remains cell in the next movie which couldn't act actively until then and then Yamcha-Cell trains five months and becomes Golden Yamcha-Cell
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>>122697709
>not
>Gero implanted dormant Cell cells into Yamcha when he absorbed his energy as a back up plan one day he gains god like powers because it awakened and is slowly taking him over
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>>122696372
The page doesn't load
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>>122698002
Try a different browse
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>>122696617

because all his girls are skeltal mode
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>>122696372
Beerus’ planet
Goku and Vegeta are training with Whis
He easily dodges their individual attacks, and when they try and hit him together, he dodges out of the way and they smash into each other instead.

Vegeta: “Kakarot!! Your aim’s way off!!!”
Goku: “No it isn’t, Vegeta!!!”
Whis: “Oh my…”
Vegeta: “Just stay out of this, Kakarot!”

Vegeta goes at Whis by himself, but Whis dodges and eggs Goku on.
The face of [Super Saiyan?] God faintly appears above Goku's own.

Whis: “Oh!”

But Whis dodges his attack, and once Vegeta returns the two of them launch another pincher attack.
Beerus shows a slight response

Whis: “Alright, stop stop. This is no good. You still aren’t nearly fast enough. Look, I even autographed you.”

His character design picture is signed on Goku and Vegeta’s clothes

Goku: “Ah, when did he-?!”
Vegeta: “Kuh”
Whis: “Both of you are still thinking first, then acting. Vegeta in particular. It takes time for your nerves to convey things from your senses or brain to your body.”
Goku: “Haha…I guess Vegeta really is like that!”
Vegeta: “Put a lid on it! How do I know you’re not just an idiot!?”
Whis: “You need to have each part of your body think and move on its own, but this is very difficult. Even Lord Beerus hasn’t perfected it yet. If you can master this, then you’ll be able to avoid any danger. Well, it’ll take a lot of time and hard work, but I’ll teach you how. If you give me something tasty in return!”
Vegeta: “Are you trying to tell me you can move like that?”
Whis: “Of course.”
Goku: “But Whis, you’ve stepped in some poop.”
Whis: “AAAAHHHH!!!”
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>>122699854
Whis: “Hohoho…Well, my shoes can’t think for themselves, after all. *cough* Anyway, Vegeta.”
Vegeta: “Wha…What?”
Whis: “Even though you’re a gifted fighter, Goku is always one step ahead of you.”
Vegeta: “Khh…No beating around the bush with you, is there?...”
Whis: “Do you understand why?”
Vegeta: “H…How should I know?!”
Whis: “You’re always too tense, so you can’t move at full speed when it really counts. Resting when you need to relax is important too. Like Goku does.”
Goku: “Haha, he’s right Vegeta.”
Whis: “But on the other hand…”

He catches Goku off-guard and hits him in the side

Goku: “Guh!!! Kahaaaa…!! Ow! What’d ya’ do that for…?!”
Whis: “Getting too relaxed is also a problem. Another problem is how you overestimate yourself. No matter how strong you may be, your body is weak if you let down your guard. It’s common to see people caught off guard when they’re overconfident.”
Vegeta: “Hmph…I suppose you’re right.”
Goku: “Ow…owy o wow…N-No way!”
Beerus: “…Why is it so noisy...”
Goku: “L-Lord Beerus!”
Beerus: “How am I supposed to sleep like this?!”

He fires energy blast and destroys a sun (?)

Goku: “Y-Yikes!!! If that had hit me head-on, I’d have been blown to bits…!!!”
Whis: “He always gets like this when he’s sleepy. Once, he destroyed two of those suns over there, so everything went pitch dark. It was just awful.”

Beerus goes back to sleep

Goku: “How’d you put the suns back to normal? Can you create stars?!”
Whis: “No, in cases like this I simply do things over again”
Goku: “Do it over again?”
Whis: “I just turn back time a little bit to before he messed up, and give him a good smack.”
Vegeta: “Just what the hell are you?!”
Whis: “Hohhohohoh, how I should I put this?...I’m a life-form called “Whis”…I suppose.”
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>>122699894
Earth
Freeza’s spaceship arrives on the outskirts of North City

Piccolo: “So my nasty premonition was right…”
Gohan: “Dende! Tell everyone about this!!”
Dende: R-Right!”
Gohan: “It’s near North City!”

Gohan and Piccolo fly towards the direction of the ki they sense

Freeza: “Hold on…I’ll clear things up over there.”

He fires a Death Beam at East City
East City is wiped out

Freeza: “Hohhohohoh! That’s just my way of saying ‘hello’!”

Gohan and Piccolo arrive

Gohan: “E-East City…”
Freeza: “Heh”

Tenshinhan arrives

Gohan: “Tenshinhan!”
Tenshinhan: “I left Chiaotzu and Yamcha behind. It seemed too dangerous.”
Gohan: “Bulma ordered me to tell Trunks and Goten not to come, since they’re too reckless.”

Kame-sennin and Kuririn arrive

Kame-sennin: “Sorry I’m late. I went to fetch some senzu from Karin’s tower.”
Kuririn: “Are Goku and Vegeta here yet?”
Tenshinhan: “Doesn’t look like it.”
Kuririn: “Darn them…Well, at least we’ve got Boo…Huh? Where is he!?”
Gohan: “He can’t come…Apparently once he goes to sleep, he doesn’t wake up for quite a while…”
Kame-sennin: “What?! That’s a big miscalculation…So we’ve got 5 people then, huh?...Gohan! Have you kept up your martial arts training?”
Gohan: “Sadly no…My apologies…But I can still become a Super Saiyan…Probably…”
Freeza: “Looks like the gang’s all here…”
Tenshinhan: “F-Freeza…”
Piccolo: “So, it was you who got resurrected with the dragon balls. I suspected as much.”
Freeza: “Hasn’t Son Goku arrived yet?”
Piccolo: “He’s left this planet to go train elsewhere.”
Freeza: “He’s not on Earth? So where is he then?”
Tagoma: “Lord Freeza, is that…”
!
Tagoma: “Could that be a spaceship?...”
Piccolo: “?”
Gohan: “Huh?”

Jaco’s spaceship (?) flies in

Freeza: “I see, so he’s come in that spaceship…I’ve been waiting for you, Son Goku.”
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>>122699854
>>122699894
>>122699938
From where did you steal this?
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>>122696617
i agree, it would be some nice fresh air and would cause more "controversy" (praise that the strongest in the universe is a girl etc etc and what have you) and therefore way more popularity in Ameirca.
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>>122699938
>Gohan: “Sadly no…My apologies…But I can still become a Super Saiyan…Probably…”

This is just sad.
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>>122699938
>Tenshinhan: “I left Chiaotzu and Yamcha behind. It seemed too dangerous.”
>Gohan: “Bulma ordered me to tell Trunks and Goten not to come, since they’re too reckless.”
Shit I just read that now, Chiaotzu, Yamcha, Trunks and even Goten BTFO, what the hell?
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>>122700528
It's hard to train like an autist every single day unless you are a neet like Goku and Vegeta.
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>>122699938
>Tenshinhan arrives
>Tenshinhan: “I left Chiaotzu and Yamcha behind. It seemed too dangerous.”

How considerate, let yourself get killed before your weaker brethren.
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>Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection "F"
>Chapter 1: http://readms.com/r/dragon_ball_z_rebirth_of_f/1/2705/1
>Trailer: http://youtu.be/HdkcNO3YqGY
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>>122700580
Just train a bit so you can keep SSJ
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>>122700576
It's simple, Toriyama doesn't want to end up with the same problems the Buu saga had where they were way more heroes than villains. So in this movie:

Goku and Vegeta will handle Frieza

Piccolo and Gohan will handle the top henchmen

Roshi, Krillin, Tien and Jaco will handle the fodder.
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>Frieza never trained
>Cell never trained
>Buu never trained
Guess evil is just naturally strong.
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>>122700706
No cuckcha?
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>>122700706
>doesn't want to end up with the same problems the Buu saga had
This is even worse, just to bring that manlet back, he just BTFOed half of the fighting cast, that's worse writing than bleach has battlewise. And all those nostalgia-autist are still hyped after all the shitwriting the new movie revealed. This can't even be considered as a bunch of gags like pretimeskip-DB.
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>>122700706
we one piece now
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>>122699938
>Yamcha confirmed for less useful than an immortal old man
How sad can it get?
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>>122700780
They never had any reason to do so

Well in theory Frieza must have when at some point.
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>>122696372
Why doesn't Krillin bring his wife? She's stronger than him, Tien and Roshi combined
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>>122700780
Seems like Buu has been fighting for all his "life" using one of Toriyama's interviews. As for Cell, well, he rather absorbs to get more easily stronger and it's not like he stayed that long.
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>>122701034
No women allowed, manly fighting time.
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>>122696372
I really like it that they train under the same master, that gives Vegeta the perfect opportunity to get on Par with Goku with a good explanation (Whis just fucking told him why Goku is a step ahead, and Vegeta is willing to learn it seems). So future movies (god help us all) could revive their rivalry, since around the Cell Saga Goku just skyrocketed away from Vegeta.
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>>122701034
Bulma: Hey, Bulma here!
39 days to go until the premiere!!
Today No. 18’s swung by.

No. 18: So, why am I here exactly?

Bulma: Come to think of it, do you even know about Freeza, 18? He’s the one who destroyed Planet Vegeta way back when, and later he attacked Namek, and even gave Son-kun and Vegeta a tough fight. In fact, he killed Kuririn! He’s pretty much everyone’s archenemy.

No. 18: He killed Kuririn?!
I’ll make him pay for that…
Anyway, I may not know much about Freeza, but I’ll definitely go fight too. Since I’m stronger than the others.

Bulma: Huh? I really don’t think Kuririn would be OK with that. What with Marron and all…

No. 18: You think he’d mind? But then, Kuririn’s grown out his hair now, and he’s even got a job as a police officer. He’s pretty much become a regular Joe.
Should I be worried?…

Bulma: Ugh…well, anyway…(Geez, she may be the tsun-dere to end all tsun-dere)
Th-There’s just 39 days left until the premiere of this film! This film which may, or may not, feature a tender scene between 18 and Kuririn!
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It's funny how all of this makes Uub's fight against Goku even more ridiculous in retrospect. Some punk-ass indian was able to keep up with a god.
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>>122696372
>No montage of Frieza training at the space gym

Confirmed shit movie
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>>122701174
>Frieza
>training
Please. He did all of about 4 pushups (one for each month) to get to where he is now.
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>>122701034
Toriyama seems to be going for the original cast minus Yamcha.
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>>122700780
That's the theme, yeah. They're born the most potent beings in their environment, never needing to exert themselves, just doing whatever they want with nobody to stop them right up to the climax. Meanwhile heroes grow up humble and getting their shit pushed in by worthy rivals.
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I miss him
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>>122701123
>This film which may, or may not, feature a tender scene between 18 and Kuririn!

MOTYAY
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>>122701281
He'll never be strong again.
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So at this point DBGT has been entirely retconned, right?

I haven't seen Battle of the Gods yet, but it seems like they're just continuing with DBZ continuation and forgetting the GT stuff.
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>>122701388
No need to retcon something that was never canon
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>>122700706
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2015/02/dragon-ball-z-revival-of-f-character-art-and-profiles/

Looking at this it seems that Bulma, 18 and Videl will also get to do something at some point in the movie.

But definitely confirmed that Chichi, Goten, Trunks, Chiaotzu and Yamcha are all no shows.

Mr Satan as we all know will show up near the end and kill Frieza by himself.
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>>122701388
Multiverse. GT is canon as an altverse, but not canon relative to the manga.
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They should dub 'Son Goku and his friends return' as an appetiser. Maybe as a pre-feature.
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>>122701490
I wouldn't mind this, to be honest.
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>>122701461
>Trunks
>no show
>in a goddamn Frieza-oriented movie
What gives?
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>>122701490
I like the idea but feel it is way too long. It was made as a standalone after all.
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>>122697638
He's just watching Trunks and Goten...right?
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>Roshi is actually useful in the movie
Color me surprised
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>>122701595
Because the Trunks that killed Frieza is in some other dimension and the most kid Trunks could do in the movie is to get killed or hurt in order to piss off Vegeta. And that already happened against Cell.

If they go with nice guy Vegeta fighting to save his family they'll do it with pregnant Bulma.
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>>122701595
>Freeza sees Trunks
>Has wartime flashbacks
>Tries to attack Trunks
>Vegeta stops him and starts to wreck his shit
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>>122701868
They could have had a decent comedic bit there though with Kid Trunks and Frieza.
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>>122701852
>Roshi does more shit than Yamcha, Chaozu, Trunks and Goten
Not that im complaining
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>>122699938
>Gohan: “Sadly no…My apologies…But I can still become a Super Saiyan…Probably…”

Is he going to get weaker and weaker with each appearance? His Mystic form's power isn't meant to just "go away" like that
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>>122700826
>, he just BTFOed half of the fighting cast
If they were there you would complain they are useless. Freezer is supposed to be stronger than Goku here, so he's obviously stronger than Yamcha, Chaoz, Goten, Trunks, Gotenks and Buu. It's literally doing what Dragon ball haters want(which he already did in battle of gods)

> that's worse writing than bleach has battlewise
The entire current Bleach arc has been retarded fights without nothing else, you can't get worse than that, unless you're Araki.

>still hyped after all the shitwriting the new movie revealed.
Bog was top tier.
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>>122699894
>Beerus is strong enough to destroy a star
>and Whis is implied to be a Creation God

Oh shit.

>Tenshinhan: “I left Chiaotzu and Yamcha behind. It seemed too dangerous.”
>Yamcha

WHY?! He's much stronger than Roshi is.

>Gohan: “Bulma ordered me to tell Trunks and Goten not to come, since they’re too reckless.”

WHY?! They could be of serious help with this battle!

I swear, if Yamcha and Goten/Trunks don't appear at all...
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>>122701946
I'm kinda worried about this movie being too light in comedy because of the butthurt Zfags that hated BoG for not being grimdark and serious enough.
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>>122701852
Did Roshi leveled up or something? He can now kill guys with power level of 1000+ easily, he is now probably around Nappa level?
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>>122702005
I thought his Mystic form made super saiyan transformations obsolete.
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>>122702005
>Heroes become weaker without constant training
>Villains dont need training at all
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>>122701470
>GT is canon as an altverse, but not canon relative to the manga.
Alternate universe=/=not canon, learn what the words mean.

GT is not canon, and is not another universe.
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>>122700706
You see, Jaco is the problem. We could have had the Human Z-Fighters (except fucking Chaozu, weak ass nigga), but Toriyama wants to push his alien manlet over everything else.
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>>122702071
Yeah, it's the entire point of having heroes and villains, heroes are supposed to overcome villains.

Why are dragon ball critics so fucking retarded?
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>>122702058
The power of fanservice
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>>122696617
I'm just counting Whis as a girl like I did with Pitou
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>>122702058
It's never stated those specific henchmen have a power level around 1000 or anything.
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>>122702058
Freeza's henchmen didn't lift.

Except for this guy. Don't forget that piccolo is actually pretty strong.
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>>122701749
If that's the case then they should at least have some babysitting hijinks.
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>>122702257
Freeza's henchmen are supposed to be stronger than the Nappa iirc.
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>>122702231
Pitou actually is a girl, though.
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>>122702257
Raditz was said to be one of the weakest soldiers in Frieza's army, and he had powerlevel of around 1200-1500. So I guess even the shitties of Frieza's gooks wouldn't have powerlevel of less that 1000.
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>>122702345
Not really.
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>Piccolo fuses with Dende
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>>122702345
Nah, Normal Freeza henchmen are about as strong as Raditz.
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>>122702386
He's already got at least three people in there already.
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>>122702043
>If they were there you would complain they are useless.
>C18, Buu, Giten & Trunks
>useless against Freeza's Army who (as Roshi proves) are still Namek level
Alright man.

>Bog was top tier.
I was speaking about the new movie about Freeza.
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>>122700288
Kanzenshuu.
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>>122702046
Whis is implied to be a time god you mean.
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>having the fucking potential to be the best fighter
>not training that potential
>in a world where strong enemies appear every 3-4 years
>this enemies could destroy your world and you beloved family

Gohan is the ultimate lazy ass and a fucking cunt.
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Does someone have english scans for Jaco?

I found a link in the archive but it's dead.
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>>122700706
Krillin might get to fight a top henchman too.

The official website shows Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo and Krillin as the main characters of the movie.

http://www.dragonball2015.com/character/
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>>122702283
This demon dude actually has pretty neat design. He is strong too - he is greatly above semi-perfect Cell at least. Wonder where the hell did Frieza find him.
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>>122702456
>beating nameless henchmen is now "being useful"

fucking decide
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>>122702505
Met him at the space gym
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>>122702468
Why couldnt he be a cute little girl then?
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>>122702479
You would think that since the previous movie happened, Gohan would go back to training just in case shit went down again.
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>>122702505
So much for that "DURRR THERE CANT BE ANYONE STRONGER THAN FREEZER IN SPACE" shit GT haters usually say.
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>>122702479
Xenoverse makes me forgive him a little, because presumably he's studying to try to teach the masses on Earth how to fight and defend their own planet. That kind of completes his character, what with him only learning to fight Cell because he knew his dad wouldn't be there one day. He's trying to make Earth self-sufficient, just like his dad did with him.
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>>122702046
He didn't tell Roshi to come. Roshi came by himself.
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>>122702319
>Yamcha babysitting the kids
>Teaches them cool Yamcha moves

So that's where Gotenks got the Wolf Fang Fist from.
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>>122702505
>King Cold's number 1 soldier who was stronger than him
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>>122702502
>Freeza movie
>The Namek gang is doing shit
thats kinda neat
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>>122702502
>Krillin doing shit

Neat
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>>122701123
18 is cute.
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>>122702573
So Yamcha just sat out on purpose, instead of telling his nigga Tien that he can fight too?

Or was Toriyama so excited to insert Jaco in Dragon Ball again that he said "lol fuck that scar faggot" and excluded him, Goten, and Trunks?
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>>122702584
He hit Piccolo. It didn't mean it hurt.
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>>122702532
It's at the least better instead of being fucking offscreened.
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>>122702071
>>Villains dont need training at all
Frieza does.
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>>122702631
At least this gives more time for characters like Piccolo an Krillin to shine.
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>>122702566
>teaching humans how to be strong
That will have a bretty good end, Gohan confirmed for hating humanity.
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>>122701461

>Whis has the seiyuu of Ichigo Kurosaki

Well shit, I couldn't notice it.
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>>122701281
Doesn't he have Saiyan blood? Goku didn't train especially seriously for five years after marrying Chichi, but he still didn't get any weaker since the fight against Piccolo.

Honestly, Goku was right. Everyone just slacks off. If something powerful attacks the Earth after he passes on for good, that'll pretty much be the end of the planet. Even his own sons are so pitiful.
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>>122702662
It's still being useless by the retarded standards dragon ball haters had for the last 30 years.
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>>122702566
deepest lore
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>>122702386
Pls no
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>>122702479
Gohan had his whole potential unlocked by a dancing granpa. He couldn't be stronger even if he trained.
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>>122702566
huh? where was that revealed
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>>122702565
Except that Frieza is considerably stronger than anyone that isn't God tier in this movie.
And Frieza has been dead a long time now.
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>>122702561
He also has a pregnant wife and a job.

In theory even Yamcha should be enough to handle any threat except for Beerus. How would anyone know about Frieza's space gym.
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>>122702425
Golden Piccolo soon.
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>>122702692
Yeah, at least Krillin gets to shine this time.
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>>122702802
Wha? No he can't. He's weaker than fucking Nappa.
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>>122702728
We'll it's not useless for me, so why would I care abou them?
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>>122702631
>Yamcha had a fucking heart attack when Frieza came back the first time
>Tien went to check on Piccolo vs Android 17 and Cell; Yamcha ate ass and stayed behind
>Yamcha did jack shit in the Majin Buu Saga. At least Tien came to fight.
Yamcha has been a joke ever since the Cultivar/Saibaman beat him. He doesn't even bother to show up.
Also, Jaco is awesome, and Yamcha being there would make no difference, neither in movie or out.

If the rest of the cast was there:
>wooooooh. We are slaughtering mooks. OH MY GOD YAMCHA.
Anyways, the Manga leaves out details. It is a hype maker, not a detailed replica. Who knows, maybe Tien broke his leg again.

Also
Theater when Yamcha returns
1/4: Who is he again? Oh yeah, he got killed by a Saibaman.
1/8: Yeah! Yamcha!
5/8: Fuck that guy!

When Jaco comes:
All:
Who is this new character? I am so glad he is here. A new character is nice.
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>>122702794
GT got hate way before this movie was even conceived you retard, your statement is pointless.

>>122702841
Because you're the same kind of shit complaining about literally everything DB does but complaining if it doesnt do it.
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>>122699938
>Gohan: “Sadly no…My apologies…But I can still become a Super Saiyan…Probably…”
WHY
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>>122702790
Lies, he became stronger by training with Goku.
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>>122702790
>He couldn't be stronger even if he trained.
He's a Saiyan.
Limits aren't in his blood. Literally.
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>>122702479
You have potential do hundreds of things but you'd rather sit at home being a neckbeard.

Gohan would rather not be fighting.
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>>122702790
That's fine, he could at least keep himself at that power level for when threats do come to earth. By the looks of it he has just been slacking off (Job, Wife and kid to blame I guess) on his training and has gotten stupidly weak
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>>122702058

He used all his ero power to bulk up instead.
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>>122702830
>End Yamcha
>weaker than Nappa
What? He trained with Kaio later, I'm pretty sure he can beat at least Nappa.
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Man, if Yamcha and Krillin could just learn the Kaio Ken, they might be able to at least make it to, say, Dodoria class. Maybe.
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>>122702588
>yfw the Ginyu also return
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>train for 4 months to achieve ultimate power
>come to earth in his weakest form that could be easily oneshotted if one of them detected him
Frieza stop being retarded
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I find it funny that most of the people who complain abiut Gohan going SSJ also hate SSJG for being "to similar to base/kaioken"
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>>122702863
I'm obviously talking about the part where no one can be stronger than Frieza rather than the GT hate.
Especially since Majin Buu is from an unknown part of space.
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>>122702854
>Who is this new character? I am so glad he is here. A new character is nice.
huh? If I didnt know about Jaco, I wouldnt be glad if they get an ally out of nowhere
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>>122702894
>You have potential do hundreds of things but you'd rather sit at home being a neckbeard.
I-I go to the gym everyday.
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>>122702319
Poor Yamcha, he must be one the most horrible jobbers ever. Why Toriyama is so cruel to him?
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>>122702900
But that's stupid,the source of his power is a magical dancing ritual,how does not training make him weaker when he never did to achieve his power?
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>>122702906
But he didn't even learn the Kaioken. Just getting used to Kaio's planet's gravity isn't really enough to beat Nappa, since its gravity is only identical to Planet Vegeta's. Remember, Nappa was an elite among Saiyans.
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>>122702479
>3 years old
>Get kidnapped by you Uncle
>Dad is killed in front of you
>Kidnapped by Piccolo to "train" for a year
>Mentor killed in front of him
>Get shit beat out of him more
>Go to space
>Fight the army of the emperor of the universe
>Fight the emperor and get shit smashed
>Friend killed and Mentor shot down
>Have to try to make it home on planet that is about to explode
>Emperor still is not dead
>Learn that everyone may be killed in a few years
>Dad has heart attack
>Training with his dad for a year
>Have to take on a full power strike from dad to go super sayian
>Fight monster that is stronger than your dad
>"Let it go"
>Fail to kill him resulting in Dad's death
>Have to beat monster half crippled
>11/12 years old

>Goku was 10/11 in the beginning of DB

Gohan had a hard life
Let him stay at home and have a comfy life with his wife.
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>>122702946
It would be better than having the same stale ass character get his ass whooped. Would you at least have a half-second of surprise?
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So the devil-looking guy isn't Tagoma, Sorbet, or a fusion. And it looks like Tagoma really did get taken out by Frieza.
There's a henchman that resembles one of Chilled's two underlings. And a buff looking member of Dodoria's race. So they're not all fat asses.
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>>122702917
To be fair, Ginyu was never killed in the manga. He might still be alive as an alien frog roaming the earth
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>>122702479
He's not a fighter. It doesn't matter how much potential he has or how great he could be. He's not a fighter and never will be.
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>>122702986
>And it looks like Tagoma really did get taken out by Frieza.
Dude was sucked out into space after being smashed by Frieza.
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>>122702941
But it can, there's that henchmen that can fight Piccolo on an even level, so he clearly is stronger than Manga namek Freezer, so there can be people stronger than manga freezer

>>122702983
I'd feel its bad writing.

>>122702981
DB haters are funny because they hate GOhan for not being a retard who only thinks about fighting and then complain about DB having too much fighting.
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>>122702971
I have no idea, go ask Toriyama who appears to have forgotten that himself.
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>>122702854
Don't forget that time everyone got BTFO by a bunch of Cell Juniors.
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>>122702974
But it was mentioned that Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Piccolo asked for more difficult training than Goku did.

Oh, and as time went on, Yamcha did more training (but never got to show it, thanks Gero), quit fighting, came out of retirement during Yo! Son Goku and Friends, and is now training with Tien in the mountains.
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>>122702981
Eat shit, a good character could be the strongest edgelord with that past.
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>>122703076
Gohan is not a natural fighter

He was always forced to fight.
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>>122702792
It's the reason humans can fight in the DBZ games where you can choose a race.
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>>122703076
>a consistent character is worse than an edgelord
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>>122703062
>Yamcha got his arm broken and his ribs shattered
>Tien got tossed, causing his spine to snap, with more ribs shattered
>Krillin...just wow...
>Piccolo held himself for a while, but would eventually fall
>Trunks and Vegeta were doing decent
>Goku was getting his ass whipped

Yeah.
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>>122696372
Is this real?
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>>122703062
Yeah. And...
Tien broke Yamcha's fucking leg upon introduction.
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>>122703105
there are people who played humans?
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>>122703122
Wasn't Goku already tired from fighting Cell? I don't think he ate a Senzu, did he?
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>>122702908
They do know it, I think. They trained with the guy who taught it to Goku at least.
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>>122703076
>Wanting an Edgelord
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>>122703046
>But it can, there's that henchmen that can fight Piccolo on an even level, so he clearly is stronger than Manga namek Freezer, so there can be people stronger than manga freezer
You do know that's exactly what I'm saying right?
Frieza was only the strongest in his own, controlled areas. Other places in the universe could have warriors that could absolutely destroy him.

But, Frieza is now considerably stronger than most of the characters in the series barring the Gods at this current moment in time due to space gym.
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>>122703122
Piccolo was doing just as was as Trunks and Vegeta.
Goku was tired.
>>122703134
Yes. Search up Resurrection F. Also, go on Kanzenshuu.
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>>122696372
>i will train to become a gajillion time stronger
>but i'm going to earth in my weakest form
>can be easily oneshotted by any of the guy i am talking to right now
Did Frieza training include brain damage
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>>122703169
No, he was retarded and gave the senzu to Cell and after that he stood there beaten.
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>>122703202
Lower forms are to conserve energy.
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>>122703148
>Depending on aliens to defend our planet
>Not having faith in our superior technology
>Not reaching the levels of gods without any sort of racial boon powering you up
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>>122703169
>>122703201
Yeah, Goku was tired. Stupid fuck should have eaten a senzu bean though.
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>>122701174
Could still be in the movie. It's not as though the manga adaptation promo can or is depicting every scene.
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>>122702319
>babysitting the children of his former girlfriend and the man responsible for his death.

Everytime I think Yamcha has hit rock bottom he finds a way to surpass my expectations.
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>>122703281
That's not official you retard.
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>>122702792
DragonBall Online lore
might or might not apply to Xenoverse, as it's a take on DBO's lore
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>>122703143
At least the fight was pretty cool.
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>>122703261
But Frieza takes a lot of time to transform,unlike sayans.
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>We don't get to see Goten and Trunks @ 12 and 13 years old

Oh well. It's obviously just supposed to be primarily a Frieza re-union.
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>>122702863
>Because you're the same kind of shit complaining about literally everything DB does but complaining if it doesnt do it.
What the hell are you even about you fanboy? Can't accept that your favorite show has flaws? Holy shit kill yourself.
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>>122703281
It's not official. I just thought it was cute, christ.
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>>122703276
Yeah. Or not given Cell a Senzu
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>>122703143
So? The fight was still fairly close, and if Tien didn't know how to copy/block that Kamehameha...

>>122703335
Anyone else think that this was Yamcha's last cool fight?
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>>122703340
Maybe he can do it faster now.

It took Goku like 3 episodes to transform into SSJ3 for the first time but now he can do it instantly.
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>>122703340
I hope you are not basing transformation times on the anime.
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>>122703335
It was, but not as cool as Resurrection F will be.
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>>122703340
He probably founda way to speed that, though... I guess.
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>>122703394
>The fight was still fairly close
Yamcha pls
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>>122703437
Yamcha fans can't accept that Tien is much better than him.
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>>122703419
I'd buy Frieza purple drank.
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Who is best noncanon girl?
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>>122703416
> Implying it wouldn't be cooler if it had Yamcha fighting mooks while Wolf Hurricane is playing.
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Let's see. He went through training on Kami's lookout. He lost to a fucking Saibaman, though, so his powerlevel was probably still under 1000.

After that, he trained with Kaio. Goku's powerlevel when he revived without using Kaioken was over 8000, so Yamcha might have managed to receive a big boost from that training. Maybe.

After that, he trained on his own to fight against the Androids, but who knows how far he got just training on his own. I doubt he even made it to 10,000.
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>>122703357
They are 12 and 13? Maybe that's the reason they don't appear, they are no longer adorable little kids.

Trunks probably got Mai pregnant already.
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>>122703490
Zangya no contest
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>>122703490
Pan is canon.

I think the only non canon GIRL is vegetas underwear
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>>122703376
Or both! Fucking Cell Saga, why was everyone an idiot in that saga?

>Yamcha doesn't stick with Tien so that he won't get BTFO'd by Gero and get his power drained
>Krillin doesn't disable 18 the second he gets
>Vegeta letting Cell power up
>Piccolo...actually Piccolo was intelligent
>Trunks going LOL MC HUGE STEROIDS and getting his ass beaten, instead of properly stalling for time with his power
>Goku giving Cell Senzu beans and not taking one himself
>Goku not telling Gohan his plan from the start
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>>122703502
No, he had a power level of 1400, he easily beat the saibaman and got careless after that and got blasted.
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>>122703507
But they're both handsome.
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>>122703201
I know Revival of F is a thing. I meant, if these raws are real. There is something weird about the art-style.
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>>122703400
>It took Goku like 3 episodes to transform into SSJ3 for the first time but now he can do it instantly.

That sucks. I want to hear that SSJ3 theme played again.
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>>122702483
No. We all read the raw with anon's translations. The closest you can get is the Portuguese scan on bato.to or somewhere.
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>>122703554
Pan is canon but that particular version isn't.
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>>122703409
No,he did take a while.On the other hand manga SSJ transformation is instantaneous,it took a single panel.
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>>122703202
He was already that dumb. First time he tried a comeback he came to Earth for a rematch with a weaker cyborg body after just learning to walk again.
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>>122703507

>Trunks probably got Mai pregnant already.


Mai is shown in the first chapter with Pilaf and Shu, though. Of course, they were all busy trying to not get killed by Frieza henchmen to even mention Trunks.
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>>122703565
Don't forget Cell making the same mistake he mocked Trunks for.
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>>122703565
>Piccolo...actually Piccolo was intelligent
Piccolo deserved better.
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>>122700820
All Yamcha is good for is to make useless jokes or cuck jokes about him.

If there's a spot available to beat a bunch of random nameless mooks I't be better to give it to 18 or even Videl.
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>>122703464
>trying to separate Yamcha and Tien fans

I will admit that the second Tien figured Yamcha's cocky ass out, it was over.

>>122703554
No, Bra's canon too. She appeared in End of Z.

>>122703502
Yamcha was about as strong as Raditz was when he lost against the Saibaman. But it really wasn't a loss, more of a suicide attack. In fact, Tien nearly suffered the same fate, but Vegeta "saved" him.
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>>122699938
>Kuririn: “Darn them…Well, at least we’ve got Boo…Huh? Where is he!?”
>Gohan: “He can’t come…Apparently once he goes to sleep, he doesn’t wake up for quite a while…”

Hahaha I remember in the manga 5 seconds of sleep was long for Boo.
Nice fucking excuse.
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>>122703030
There was speculation here that he survived when they activated the shield and that he might transform into Mr. Red.
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>>122703565
>Krillin doesn't disable 18 the second he gets
Boner

>Vegeta letting Cell power up
Pride

>Goku giving Cell Senzu beans and not taking one himself
>Goku not telling Gohan his plan from the start
Retard
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>>122703747
To be fair that was full Majin Buu.

The one we have now is just Mister Buu.
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>>122703062
Is that supposed to be embarrassing? They were each as strong as Cell.
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>>122703634
>with weaker cyborg
He at least think otherwise and his father was there.
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>>122703554
You are talking about Bra?

But she's also canon, just apparently a bit younger than Pan.
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>>122703752
>he might transform into Mr. Red
Just..why. How.
Also sorbet said that he was Zarbon tier at best, did he unlock a transformation while being blasted in space?
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>>122703832
Maybe he was to the Space Gym with Freezer.
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>>122700528
Gohan's probably making sure he's an actual good father unlike his own
think about it
He's got a baby girl now, and a wife who got SHOT the last time he was goofing off.
He has responsibilities.
He's the man his mother always wanted him to be.
But this at least explains why Gohan gets knocked around. He's extremely rusty.
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>>122703588
It isn't drawn by Toriyama.
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>>122703694
>Videl
>the normal human that can fly

What about Chichi?
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>>122703251
>Knows his son is underconfident
>Still gives Cell a senzu, which also gives him a zenkai boost

Even if he was dumb enough not to realise that Gohan hated fighting, still confirmed for shit tier dad.
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>>122703588
That's because even though it looks like his style, Toriyama is not the artist. It would look a bit SD if it was him.

I don't remember the actual artist of this, though.
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>>122702138
You mean he wants to push his most recent IP into the film?
Makes sense doesn't it?
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>>122703694
What about Chiaotzu? He's even weaker than Yamcha.

>>122703784
He could have brought her cyborg ass back to life, minus the bomb. Fucking Krillin man, that was a stupid move.
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>>122699938
>Piccolo: “So, it was you who got resurrected with the dragon balls. I suspected as much.”
>suspected
I thought he could fucking sense auras?
>>
Daily reminder that Frieza became stronger in 4 months than Goku did in over a decade
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>>122703926
>the normal human that can fly

>Forgetting she also knows how to fight.

Chi-Chi is also good.
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>>122702283
all we see is that one punch though
it's entirely likely Piccolo is facing wave after wave of enemies, and this guy gets a sucker punch or two in.
also, Piccolo has jobbed in DBZ movies for like, the last 8 movies or so
He may be strong, but he never really increased much past being on equal standing with 17 (and now that Toriyama is downshifting the power scaling, means that he's likely only twice as strong as frieza)
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Nappa deserved better. Most tragic character of the entire universe.
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>>122704021
Goku was also a low class Saiyan while Frieza was born around SSJ levels and didn't train once in his life.

It's still bullshit though.
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>>122703942
It's drawn by Toyotaro, the artist for the Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission manga.
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>>122704021
>in 4 months, Freeza is stronger than a SSJ3 Vegito.

I still have trouble comprehending this.
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>>122703694
He's also pretty good at getting taken by surprise by villains to show that they mean SERIOUS BUSINESS.
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>>122704080
also not to forget, that he is Toyble, the guy who used to draw DBAF
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>>122704095
He could have trained 8 months and wrecked Beerus

If he was so afraid of a Super Saiyan, why didn't he just train for a week?

BRAVO TORIYAMA
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>>122703832
People made some good points, but I'm not going to bother explaining since it's now all but confirmed to not be the case.
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>>122702283

In b4 piccolo plays possum for some reason like in all his other fights
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>>122704062
He actually is stronger than 17, he trained for a year in the time chamber and got a "lot stronger".
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>>122704147
Because it was his boogieman. He thought it was just a story to scare young fridges.
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>>122703926
Videl is stronger than Mr Satan, not much but it wouldn't be ridiculously stupid if she took down a random low tier mook or two.

Chichi fighting would be nice but she isn't even listed as a character in the movie.
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>>122704147
Super Saiyan was thought to have been just a myth. Frieza was too busy with the planet trade to train.
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I wonder if everything will go to shit and Whis will just reset time to before the battle even started.
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>>122702581
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Daily reminder that Mr Satan is legitimately the strongest non-ki user
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>>122703747
Majin Buu hibernates. Read the twel buu mysteries on Kanzenshuu.
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>>122704062
>downshifting the power scaling
¿Que?
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>>122704147
blowing the planet in a second is easier than training for a week
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>>122702357
Then why did they require Ki guns? I don't remember the reason, unless it had to do with them not being able to focus it well.
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>>122704095

>ssj3 vegitto

what kind of non canon faggotry is this?
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>>122704305
Hibernation =/= sleep

If he was actually hibernating he wouldn't wake up until all his friends were long dead
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>>122704147
We don't actually know if he's stronger than SSG Goku
The manga indicates that Goku only tapped the SSG power for a brief second.

In all likelihood, that's what's going on. Goku still can't summon the power on demand. So he's basically fighting at somewhere above SS3, but below SSG, with maybe one or two attacks at that level, where Frieza is always at his power.

Beerus is consistently miles above Goku (If Goku is a 6, Beerus is a 10, and Whis a 15)
So my bet, Frieza's a 5 right now, and Goku's having problems jumping back up to 6, so he loses.
If Vegeta jumps up to a 6, and can learn to relax a little, he could have the edge.

I expect this movie will have no one reach higher than 7.
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>post yfw they made beerus speak about Frieza in BoG, because they already planed this shit cash grab back then
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>>122704021
After ~25 years (his whole life) of training, Goku was a whopping 2.5% of Freiza's power. Yeah...
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>>122704095
If it helps, maybe it's four months to apply theories he'd been developing in Hell.
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I really don't like the existance of Whis, what fucking point is there to introduce God of Destruction Beerus as the ultimate fuck you to saiyan arrogance, only to then have some random guy be stronger for no apparent reason?

It's not like he's necessary for the story, Beerus could have trained them.
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>>122704303
No, Videl is the str-

>Flight involves Ki

Fuck you're right.
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>>122704209
I know, that's why I said he got stronger than 17
"he never really increased much past 17"
also means
"he is clearly above 17, just not a whole lot comparatively"

In other words, he didn't improve to the scale that he could be compared to anyone else. He's still weaker than USSJ Vegeta.
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>>122704377
This being Dragon Ball, I'm expecting they will hit 10 to 20.
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>>122704290
No wonder Bulma stayed with his ass for over 11 years.
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>>122704354
Well, on Kanzenshuu, Herms, the mod who did the translation posted here, noted that it could also be hibernation, ut he translated it as sleep because it sounded better.
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>>122702821
Yeah, just in time to get his ass kicked.
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>>122704441
what about yasurobe (or whatever his name was)?
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>>122704436
His personality compliments Beerus's and they make up for fun interactions. He's probably important too and just hasn't revealed it.
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>>122704443
It's honestly kind of sad, they made a huge deal of "Super Namekians" and for a while it seemed like they're definitely on par with Saiyans but that just fell apart after the fight against 17. Suddenly no training in the world made him keep up with saiyans anymore.
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>>122703394
It pretty much was. It's still one of my favorites from DB overall though.

>>122703464
But I like both.
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>>122704436
He's probably part of a race that is to the multiverse what Kai's are to the individual universes or something.
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>>122704303
Yajirobe is never shown using KI
checkmate
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>>122704312
Toriyama is making some effort to show that the difference in powers is not as much as we might think
Having Roshi, Krillen, and Tien in the fray, and apparently having soldiers that can give them some trouble, and even piccolo.
Downscaling Gohan's power because he made him too darn powerful.
Making Goku and Vegeta fight in normal mode, having given up on the super saiyan forms for the most power.

Toriyama is making a concentrated effort to rely less on giant power spikes, because it throws the comparisons all off.
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>>122700706

Jaco is saibaman tier in his own book though.

Unless he's been mad training for the past 30 years.
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>>122704436
Whis is cool. It's not like he was introduced after Beerus, so there's no problem. We might find out more about the hiearchy of Gods and the cosmology of the multiverse in this movie.
>>
What is the best Battle of Gods release?
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>>122704377
So basically
>Goku thinks it'll be easy because lol Frieza
>Gets absolutely btfo because he relaxed way too much
>Vegeta finally relaxes not letting his fear of Frieza getting in the way
>Wrecks Frieza
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>>122704527
Yajirobe. You're right, he should be quite a bit stronger.
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>>122704566
He can sense it though

It's certainly weird though, I mean he trained with Kami and Popo after all.
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>>122703618
>this form of frieza is never icnluded in the video games

why
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>>122704560
Let me rephrase
>Yamcha fanboys
I like Yamcha too, but I don't see why people are so butthurt that he isn't there.
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>>122702106

It even said in BOG theres other universes and dimensons stop getting your panties in a twist just cause GT has a shot of being semi canonical.
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>>122704561
Whis could be the same race as the Kais and Supreme Kais (Shin-jin.)
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>>122704576
Kaioshin = Gods of Creation
Beerus = God of Destruction
Whis = ????
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>>122704683
I don't think he gives enough of a fuck to try and learn ki attacks, even though he certainly may have the potential.
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>>122704724
A life form called Whis.
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>>122704628
>You're right, he should be quite a bit stronger.

Especially since he not only chopped off Vegeta's tail, but sliced the shit out of Vegeta, through his armor, mortally wounding him.

Even ignoring the fact that Vegeta was in a weaken state when Yajirobe sliced him, Yajirobe sliced right through the back of Vegeta's Saiyan armor.

That's pretty damn impressive for a human that didn't learn neither to fly nor projectile ki-blasts like Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Tenshinhan and Chaotsu.
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>>122704736
Seriously he could create awesome sword slash techniques with ki
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>>122704724
>Whis the Almighty
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>>122704724
Previous God of Destruction?
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>>122704724
Vishnu, of course.
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>>122704830
> tfw Whis is omnipotent
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>>122702053
>>122702053
That's exactly what it needs to be. BoG was all for DBfags. Zfags like me get to have fun with this movie
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>>122704684
Because he only spends about a minute in it and it isn't as dramatic a power-up as his others.
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>>122704779
Not to mention him slicing Piccolo's son in half. I forget his name. Cymbal or Drum.
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>>122704696
Wrong kind of universes. The universe in DB is a giant orb encompassing all of space and the afterlife. There are 11 more of those in existence. They aren't alternate universes like those in DBM.
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If toriyama really is trying to reduce the power differences, then this would be the best time to have the rest of the z fighters start using kaioken. If this doesn't happen then basically there is no chance of them doing anything of importance whatsoever in future movies.
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>>122704408
Actually, Goku was only 23 when he fought frieza, I think.
THe first 3 years of his life was spent in a capsule.
Then he was raised by Gohan for another 8 or so.
And while Gohan taught him some basics, it was never serious training (after all, humans can't do much as children)
Goku didn't start seriously training until he was around 13

So after a decade of training, he was able to go toe to toe with 50% frieza.
going from 10 to like, 60 million in a decade is a seriously giant improvement.
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>>122704685
I wouldn't describe it so much as butthurt as being a little bit disappointed my favorite character isn't in the movie. Not even just so he can get wrecked again.

I'm not about to refuse to watch the thing just because of that though.
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>>122704933
no the one krillin is imaginign stupid
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>>122704933
He means Krillin's imagined fourth form.
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>>122704540
He is the strongest creature his species ever produced.
Not really sad, if you think about it, considering he has no special lineage.
Honestly, I wonder how much he could improve if he trained with actual namekians for awhile.
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>>122702502
Kinda funny that Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin's wife are all featured characters but Goku's isn't.

Goku confirmed for worst husband.
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>>122704724
God of Maintenance.
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http://comicbook.com/2015/03/16/dragon-ball-z-resurrection-f-coming-to-u-s-this-summer/

I'm amazed with how much effort is going into the international release
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>>122704943
Tambourine. Btw, I'm the same guy who has been linking to Kanzenshuu.
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>>122704569
doesn't he have weaponry?
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>>122704981
>having Yamcha as your favorite character

You fucking good taste having nigga. Everyone loves the butt monkey.

>>122704779
>Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Tenshinhan and Chaotsu.
>Listing Tenshinhan twice

Nigga, you forgot about a certain scarred bastard.
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>>122704921
You need to have a good balance between the two. Namek saga wouldn't have been as good without the Ginyu.
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>>122704967
That's why I put ~, which means around; I knew it was somewhere near 25.
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>>122704724
god of food
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>>122705116
my point was more that he wasn't training his whole life.
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>>122705107
I'm expected Whis and Beerus to give us something. Plus you know there's going to be comedy if Roshi's involved
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>>122705056
I just checked and it was Cymbal. Goku killed Tambourine.

Why did you feel the need to point out that you're linking to Kanzenshuu? No one gives a shit.
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>>122704724
God of time.
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>>122704981
I respect that, but there are people going "TORIYAMA YOU FUCKING HACK WHY ISN'T YAMCHA HERE" and shit
>>122705158
I see. He was as a kid though, so it is anywear from like 11 to 15/16 before Frieza.
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>>122704886
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>>122705195
I just was putting it out there before I got a bunch of posts saying "samefag". It doesn't seem to just be a /b/ thing, as it has happened to me on other boards when I put my alias after posting without it.
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>>122704724
God of fabulousness.
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>>122705286
Drop the name and stop caring about that crap.
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>People expecting Yamcha to show up when Frieza soldiers are known to carry Saibamen
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>>122705098
>Nigga, you forgot about a certain scarred bastard.

Yeah. I meant Yamcha, but put Tenshinhan in again after Captcha started to fuck up.

>>122705038
>Kinda funny that Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin's wife are all featured characters but Goku's isn't.
>
>Goku confirmed for worst husband.

I think it's more to the tune that if Chichi got some screen-time in the film, the knee-jerk reaction, from bitter Gohanfags, would be to blame Gohan becoming weaker on his mom--instead of accepting the ideal that Gohan himself cared more about raising a proper family and being a responsible adult and scholar, which was his life's goal, instead training all day to keep up with Vegeta and his father.
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>>122705274
Best reaction image ever.
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>>122705309
Well, it gets annoying when trying to discuss that I keep getting called samefag, but okay.
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>>122704724

>Whis the Wiz
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>>122705345
Nobody else even mentioned samefagging.
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Jaco turns up making Bulmas older stoner sister canon
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>>122705391
I didn't say in this thread, I said in general.
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>>122705458
She was already canon.
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>>122696372
Oh poor Gohan. He isn't even sure if he can go Super Saiyan anymore. What a disgrace.
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>>122705458
>Jaco turns up making Bulmas older stoner sister canon

Tights was already canon. It's likely we'll get a throwaway line from Bulma or Vegeta telling Jaco that Tights took Mr. and Mrs. Briefs, Goten and Trunks on a trip outer-space to visit Tarble as his waifu.

Also, I can't see this film not ending without Jaco somehow getting some misinformation which has him reporting to his superiors that Mr. Satan showed up and defeated Frieza.
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>>122699854
did they steal from Toriko?
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>>122705640
Jaco is not an idiot.
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>>122705640
>that Tights took Mr. and Mrs. Briefs, Goten and Trunks on a trip outer-space to visit Tarble as his waifu.

I hope we get a shot or two of old hag Tights, it'd be neat if she looks like carbon copy of Ms. Briefs.
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>>122705668
Toriko is so fucking retarded.
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>>122705697
>Jaco is not an idiot.

Jaco, pls.
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>>122705611
Seriously, what the hell happened? He was so cool at the beginning of the Boo saga, became a superhero, got a girl, then got some decent power up later on. I really liked him at that point, he was over his phase of 'buhu I don't want to fight' and on a way to become a decent fighter.
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>>122705668
>>122705745
>You need to have each part of your body think and move on its own, but this is very difficult.

It was retarded in Toriko.
It was retarded in Ippo.
It'll be retarded in Dbz as well.
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>>122705847
He's not a training maniac, so it makes sense for him to get weaker. Losing his power entirely like he seems to be suggesting is a bit silly though.
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>>122705098
Yous mah nigga.

>>122705221
If there are, I've not seen any of them.
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>>122705847
A family happened.
Hell, in BoG he was still pretty strong.
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>>122705774
A super elite like him don't make those mistakes.
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>>122705888
>nice trips

if you fight like the in guy in that picture you get 1HKO every fight. I think he meant it less like an octopus, and more like fighting reflexes
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>>122705888
Is he having a seizure in the ring?
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>>122705037
>considering he has no special lineage.

Uh, about that...

>http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Clan
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>>122702169
/fit/
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Where's Uub? Wasn't he supposed to be the future defender of earth?
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>>122706178
This takes place before the whole Uub stuff.
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>>122706072
According to your link the great majority of the Namekians are members of the Dragon Clan. What is your point?
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>>122706178
He's 4 or 5 years old.
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>>122706178
Why doesn't Goku train with Frieza's reincarnation instead?
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>>122706314
cause you get reincarnated when your soul is purified in hell. Frieza is just being tortured in hell apparently
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>>122705980
>>122705957
>>122705888

What Itagaki doing is based on the Ali shuffle, just extending the feint to his whole body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvFix9gioDU

The only thing stupid about is that such a technique would be worthless in boxing against an infighter who's only going to focus on body-blows to stop him from running, in the first place.

Against a boxer type who relies on timing and baiting counters or fighting at a distance, something like that would be annoying, at best.

Though I agree with the first guy that Itagaki's shuffle is fucking retarded.
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>>122706373
>>122705888
That entire fight fucking sucked.
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>>122704868
Funny how fitting that is.
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>>122706229
It's not the number.

>The Dragon Clan was very large at one point, but the climate shift on planet Namek around Age 261 wiped all of them out (with the exception of the Nameless Namekian, who was sent to Earth, and Guru).

As in, he was the split off of literally one of TWO survivors of the super special people of a great cataclysm. The only other one like the namless namekian was guru.
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Why couldn't Battle of Gods and Fukkatsu no F just take place some time after the last episode/chapter? Would have made more sense and been cooler to do, plus would have fallen in line with the whole "ten years of peace" they were supposed to have.
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>>122706472
>Why couldn't Battle of Gods and Fukkatsu no F just take place some time after the last episode/chapter? Would have made more sense and been cooler to do, plus would have fallen in line with the whole "ten years of peace" they were supposed to have.


??? but Battle of Gods and Fukkatsu no F takes place during those 10 years of peace before the end of the series.

It'd make less sense for Vegeta, much less Goku to be that invested in becoming strong after that time-skip, because Goku would have already moved on to training Uubu to take over, while both he and Vegeta had come to terms with the fact that both Goten and Trunks had become lazy shitters with 10 years of peace after Majin Buu.
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>>122706600
Why do some people use Uubu? Buu's name wasn't Ubuu.
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>>122706600
It's kind of shitty how much the epilogue shits on Goten and Trunks just to hype up this little black kid nobody cares about.
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>>122706600
nice double dubs, but what I was saying is that we don't really need anymore with people as their Buu saga selves, they should have just moved on and used the characters as they were at the end of Z.
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I wonder how strong Uub can really get. Buu's technically weaker than Super Saiyan 3, right? And the most troublesome thing about him was the fact that he could recover from battle damage instantly. Uub shouldn't have that advantage.
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>>122696372
>suddenly Goku and Vegeta are represented as equals even though Goku should be miles ahead of Vegeta
>Goku seems out of character
>neither turn into super sayian

Stop ruining my childhood
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>>122701281

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWYWC7iiBUk

I cannot imagine the collective "OHHHH SHIT" when this happened.
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>>122706993
If canon post-epilogue DB is anything like GT, Uub will be an useless jobber while Goku and Vegeta handle everything.
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>>122707073
remember.

GOKU is the arrogant one.
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>>122706600
>It'd make less sense for Vegeta, much less Goku to be that invested in becoming strong after that time-skip, because Goku would have already moved on to training Uubu to take over, while both he and Vegeta had come to terms with the fact that both Goten and Trunks had become lazy shitters with 10 years of peace after Majin Buu.

Yep. With this film, it would be lining up with the Dragonball timeline perfectly, since I recall Bulma stating that Goku hadn't come visit their family in five years--with the last time not really counting, since Goku was off training then.

>>122706931
>Why do some people use Uubu? Buu's name wasn't Ubuu.

Probably from the old internet translations.

>>122706947
>It's kind of shitty how much the epilogue shits on Goten and Trunks just to hype up this little black kid nobody cares about.

Alternatively, it seems fitting that Goten and Trunks got shitted on, since it seems the entire point of their characters was to show how laughable easy achieving Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 3 was, despite the older characters working their asses off. A lesson in wasted potential is always good, especially if you look at how much of a slacker Gohan was, despite all his own potential, on top of him literally getting power-ups gifted to him and yanked out of his ass.
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>>122707177
they both are actually.
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>>122707107
I cannot imagine the collective "AWWWWW" when he jobbed again five minutes later.
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>>122705311
>Yamcha gets strong as fuck
>still blows up to 50 Saibaman

lel, that would be hilarious
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>>122707177
But that is 100% right, Goku really is overconfident, just re watch his first fight with Beerus.
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>>122707073
Did you not watch BoG?
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>Vegeta: “Just what the hell are you?!”
>Whis: “Hohhohohoh, how I should I put this?...I’m a life-form called “Whis”…I suppose.”

So Whis confirmed for godly android type thing?
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>>122706947
>Little black kid
I thought he was supposed to be a Indian or something like that
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>>122707382
Goddamnit.
Gero has done it again.
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>>122706981
>nice double dubs, but what I was saying is that we don't really need anymore with people as their Buu saga selves, they should have just moved on and used the characters as they were at the end of Z.

While I agree it would be cool to see the end of the series version of the characters again, especially end of Dragon Ball Pan, Bra and Uubu, it would likely have to come at the expense of Goku and Vegeta, since the two of them seemed to have given zero fucks about inspiring their kids to do anything.

Then again, it might have been cool to see DB Pan and Bra watching their grandpa and dad, respectively train with Whis and having Freeza come back to start shit all those decades later. I just wonder where it would put the narrative of Goku wanting to be a teacher to Uubu if he's getting all this God-level training himself?
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>>122707177
>>122707358


>goku
>arrogant

The further up the Super Saiyan tree you go the more evil returns to your heart, that's why he starts acting arrogant at SSJ3.

In fairness, he couldn't sense Beerus ki and had zero read on him at the start.
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>>122707382
He could be the absolute highest God (in Universe 7) and/or a Shin-jin.
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>>122707469
It would not surprise me if the manga ending gets retconned.
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>>122707382

>So Whis confirmed for godly android type thing?

He's just the farmer who Raditz killed except trained 4 months.
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>>122707411
Considering that Staff Officer Black looks like this now, he probably is black.

>inb4 black people don't look like this

They do if they're from the Americas.
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>>122707497
He did similar shit to Piccolo Jr in the budokai, to Nappa kinda and to Ginyu (see what that did to him).
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>>122707621
Ha, yeah, if they're quadroons.
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>>122707621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULEvRG-z14

Speaking of Black...
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I'm just sad we didn't get to see what could've happened at that World Tournament.
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>>122707686
>Quadroons
>that dark skinned

Haven't you seen light-skinned black Americans before? Black Americans are extremely mixed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFL3i8Ifv8

>Kills a man for picking his nose

Why is Blue so based?
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>>122707124
>>122706993

Going by this film, it looks like Uub is going to get scaled up on power by a lot, if he's able to hurt base Goku, at the end of the series. That's assuming >>122707528 doesn't happen.

Personally, I suspect it'll be the opposite, where Vegeta will prove to be stronger than Goku in this film and will go into the next Dragonball-related film stronger only for Goku to have some breakthrough and become stronger than both Whis and Beersu (this assuming there will be multi-verse shenanigans in the next film/spiff-off whatever the hell Toriyama goes from here) and then start to desire to train a student of his own, thus we go into Dragon Ball's ending with Uub.
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>>122707728
fuck, the Buu Saga one I mean.
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>>122707735
Yeah, I know. AAs are typically about 70% black. A true mulatto is 50/50, whereas an AA mixed with a Euro makes for something like 35% black. Those and quadroons look pretty similar.
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>>122707691
PROMOTIONS!
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>>122707799
They will just lose the god powers at the end because reasons. Keeping balance and shit. That's the easiest way to explain everything.
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>>122707728
>>122707808
At least they could have shown one single good fight before interrupting the tournament.

Why the fuck hype it so much when all we got was Krillin beating up some guy, Piccolo surrendering, Videl getting the crap beat out of her for no reason and Gohan getting sucked dry?
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>>122707920
Easiest way of explaining things is that they hold WAY back in tournaments and Uub caught Goku by surprise.
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>>122707813
So Obama is what a true mulatto looks like (well, of East African descent, compared to blacks over here who are mainly West African)?
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>>122707951
Goten vs Trunks was the good fight you got.
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>>122707799
>and then start to desire to train a student of his own, thus we go into Dragon Ball's ending with Uub.

Seems like that was partially touched on with Dragonball's ending, where Goku started training Pan, though Gohan and Videl didn't want Goku training her seriously, so he went with Uub, so Goku's change of character wouldn't be that surprising, even with all this new stuff.

>>122707920
>They will just lose the god powers at the end because reasons. Keeping balance and shit. That's the easiest way to explain everything.

That seems like how it'll end up. I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama adds onto it by having Whis wipe everyone's memories of the multiple universes, along with knowledge of him and Beersu.
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>>122707691
>Promotions in animated form

All I have to do is kill my Scottish manlet boss (who hides the fact that he's a Scot very well) and obtain power...
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>>122708040
As you said, he is half East African stock, which is an altogether different race/population. East Africans are more closely related to Mongol-Caucasoids, so it's not really fair to use the same terminology, IMO.

His daughters are about 40% white.
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>>122705888
>dbz is stealing from saeki vs itagki

NO

NO

NO

NO

NO
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So trailer shows Earth being destroyed

Whis can rewind time

So 0 threat the movie or will Whis just say he's only going to do it once?


Also this seems like the movie Vegita surpasses Goku
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>>122708066
>Whis wipe everyone's memories
Unnecessary. Everyone in the cast has already seen weirder shit, no reason to do it. Whis will just warn them at some point that gods can't remain among mortals so Goku and Vegeta will give up their powers after the events of the movies. Goku doesn't care, Vegeta has gone soft and will choose his family in the end.
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>>122707987
easier explanation is that kid buu became even stronger as a human being considering that krillin and tien surpassed the base saiayans in strength by the end of Z
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>>122707621
I believe Staff Officer Black was changed to have a more Indian look to avoid "muh racism" controversies.
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>>122708170
Not all East Africans are like Ethiopians or Somalians however. And the only different native race in Sub-Saharan Africa are the Khoisan, so they should be more of a different ethnic group really.
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>>122708417
Ironically changing someone from black to a predominantly white group of people is equally as racist as what was going through their heads at the time.
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>>122708307
They can just Namek Dragon Balls everyone back again.
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So goku is too loose
Vegita is too tight

Fusion Super Sayian God Gogeta ?
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>>122708536
>predominantly

Isn't that just North India? The rest is mixed with everything that isn't African.

>>122708417
And that's bullshit, because they made Major Metallitron a giga nigga in the same movie. Besides, Toriyama designed the characters in Path to Power anyway.
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>>122708599
Thrid movie in the god trilogy.
Dragon Ball Z: Universe of Gods.
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>>122708418
No, Khoisan are the most basal people, but there is significant genetic distance and clustering within Sub-Saharan groups. There is a hierarchy in relationship that technological distance decay has eroded somewhat, but it IS visible when plotting genetic distance, and it is comparable to distances between other macro-groupings/races.
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>>122708681

you fool! next movie jackie chun is coming back after training for 4 months

the toughest fight they'll have yet
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>>122707799
They just explained goku never takes shit seriously enough and gets hurt as a result. Explains uub perfectly
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>>122708937
And then the final one with Batman after 4 months of prep time.
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>>122708599
>Gogeta becoming canon
pleeeease Toriyama-sama?
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>>122708937
>Jackie Shun
>Not TaoPaiPai
Anon please.
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>>122708993
>implying it wouldn't be a third fusion
Say hello to Vegiku or Gota
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>>122709055

>Tao Pai Pai

>not General Blue

I hope Goku's anus is prepared.
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how did toriyama finally get away from dragonball if people say that he failed to end it after freezer and cell?
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>>122708852
Interesting. I heard that Sub-Saharan Africa has the highest genetic diversity out of all of human, which makes sense. If your species is from a certain area, it should be very genetically diverse in its homeland, right? Maybe that's why Homo Erectus didn't make any significant gains in Asia (except for possibly Homo floresiensis) and parts of Europe, while the African Homo Erectus later evolved into Homo Heidelbergensis, and the rest is history.
I still want to know more about Homo Erectus and its long ass history (at least compared to us, nearly surviving for 2 million years).
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>>122709098
>Not the announcer
He needs more backstory man.
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>>122709151
He had enough clout in the industry to end it there. Buu saga had no editor.
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>>122709098
>General Blue
a-anon...
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>>122709098
>Blue

Someone get Tao to fuck his neck up again.

>>122709151
He originally wanted to end it during the point where Goku left for Roshi's to live, Yamcha finally got over his fear of women with his new girlfriend Bulma, and Puar and Oolong becoming friends again. But you know what they say...
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>>122708993
>>122709079
It there is even a fusion again it will be the canon one, said by the old Kai to be even stronger than expected because it's fueled by rivalry/homolust.
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>>122709151
>after freezer
He wanted to end it with Goku dead, Gohan still a useless baby and Vegeta still an evil prick?
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>tfw a fusion of Tien and Yamcha will never be canon unless the third movie gets so crazy, that fusion MUST be needed
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>>122706373
This only reminds me that Ali and Ali Jr. were a part of New Baki Grappler and it was retarded and I loved it.
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>>122709436
>Someone get Tao to fuck his neck up again.
That wasn't his neck, anon.
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>>122709903
Tao confirmed for part Xenomorph?
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>>122709903
Oh yeah, it was right in the temple.

Perhaps Tao hit his pleasure spot so hard that he came and had a heart attack from it, killing him instantly.
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>>122708170
if obama would of got with a white girl or at least a really light skinned girl his kids would have the best skin.
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>>122709533

>he's showing up next episode in Kai
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>>122709903

He died the way he lived.

Having his head tongued by a professional.
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They should have Mirai Trunks show up, damn it.
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>>122711441
As a bad guy.
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Why does Toriyama hate Gohan so much.... give Gohan a movie to fucking shine you fucking hack.
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>>122711510
He has like 3
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>>122711488

>Goku, I have come from a world not yet passed to stop you.
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>>122711510
Bojack unbound?
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>>122711441
And kill Frieza before he has a chance to transform while he's monologuing about monkeys and how he's the greatest?
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>>122711510
>Bojack
>Broly 2
The others he gets some good hits in especially in Fusion Reborn where he one shots Frieza.

Plus it kind of fits Gohan's character because he isn't a fighter.
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>>122711510

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVmLgSg5phA

>forgetting one of the biggest ass whoopings Gohan has ever dished out
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>>122701262
>goku loses to tao pai pai, nearly dies before revival via balls was a thing
>trains via magic cat tower
>goku loses to daimou piccolo
>drinks magic water to gain abilities
yeah ok
Goku was always shit until DBZ, and even then he just barely wins every fight because powerups
He gains his power like the villains do, just because.
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>>122711957
Broly 2 was garbage
It had no Gotenks and/or SSJ2 Adult Gohan
Bojack was actually decent though even if SSJ2 Gohan was on screen less than Gogeta in Fusion Reborn
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>>122713424
>Bojack was actually decent though even if SSJ2 Gohan was on screen less than Gogeta in Fusion Reborn

Come on now, Gogeta in Fusion Reborn is on-screen for literally less than 60 seconds, Gohan SSJ2 for like 4 minutes.
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>>122712055
>Games don't have Teen Gohan with this outfit anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX6BnBH6PQ8
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>>122711510
This.
Fuck you Toriyama.
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>>122713458
>what is joke
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>>122713523

Anon please, I am not Gary Spivey from Psychic Mediums Inc.
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>>122713424
>Broly 2 was garbage
It was bad. but I think Bio-Broly deserves the garbage stamp, that one was just an absolute insult.
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>>122701281
why he is so badass
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>>122709151
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/
Educate yourself.
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>>122713424
>Broly 2 was garbage
>It had no Gotenks and/or SSJ2 Adult Gohan
Gohan still had most of the fighting limelight in that movie, you're just arguing semantics with forms now.

Same deal with Bojack.
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>>122713586
>clone one of the most powerful and ruthless Saiyan to exist
>Defeated by water thrown at him by kids
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>>122713424
>SSJ2 Adult Gohan
but it did, anon.
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