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Madoka Magica

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Why did you tell me this was bad, /a/? I just finished this and I'm pleasantly surprised at how good it was.
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But it was shit
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>>122664409
>Why did you tell me this was bad

Because it's popular and that's why /a/ HAS to hate it. Also Homu a shit!
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>>122664409
Normalfags love the show so its bad.
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>>122664409
the show's a solid 7/10 and what people think of it depends entirely on what they were told before watching it.
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It was quite good, everyone who says otherwise is a faggot.
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>>122664584
>muh opinions
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>>122664409
It was meh can't give it more than 8/10. Pretty shitty show actually.
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>>122664409
>believing /a/'s lies
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It's as popular as it deserves to be, and that always annoys /a/. Without even looking at this thread I can tell you at least half of the replies rate it out of 10. Consider the kind of person who rates anime out of 10, I'm sure it reminds you of a certain website that is not /a/.
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>>122664409
What's with Mami's bulge?
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Introduction (1-4): 7/10
Build up (5-9): 5/10
Finish (10-12): 9/10
7/10 is fair enough.

As for Rebellion, the ending is not as engaging as the series one, but what precedes it is more enjoyable. 8/10 overall.
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>>122664779
Nice comment 2/10
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It's not bad, just overrated. Solid 7/10 series, the sequel is what's bad.
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>>122664409
No, I meant you're bad
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>>122664795
5-9, particularly episode 8, were highlights for me.
Since we're on the subject of ratings, I'd give it a 10.
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>>122664929
>liking character derailment
These episodes were really flawed. Sayaka and Kyouko get turned into plot devices so that they can meet their demise as the plot demands it, and Homura is way too incompetent - she arrives at every single witch later than everyone else, when she's supposed to be the one fighting the hardest with what we get to know later.
Plus, as I said before these episodes purpose in the story is to provide the build up for the main conflict, and they move at a glacial pace after episode 4.
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>>122664409
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>>122664917
The sequel is a 10/10
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Madoka's madonkadonk>Mami's mamis
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>Anime original is released
>A lot of people are pleasantly surprised by it
>Retards begin hyping it up
>Second wave watches it, some are disappointed because of the hype
>Retards begin shitting all over it
>Third wave, some are pleasantly surprised because of the shitting
etc.
WOW ITS ALMOST LIKE THERE'S SOME KIND OF PATTERN.
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It's shit, but the worst part of it isn't even the show itself, but the ripoffs that also do undeservingly well like Yuyuyu.
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>>122664409
You shouldn't listen to these hipsters who hate everything that's popular.
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>>122665085
>Sayaka and Kyouko get turned into plot devices so that they can meet their demise as the plot demands it
Explain further. I've noticed that people love to complain about characters being "plot devices" but almost never elaborate on what the fuck that's actually supposed to mean.
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>>122665085
>plot devices
Stopped reading there.
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>>122665091
I want to suckle on those underaged boobies
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>>122664708
>8/10. Pretty shitty show actually
So 8/10 and lower is shit, 9/10 is meh, and 10/10 is good?
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>>122665427
>falling for it this hard
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>>122665091
Why wear even pantsu
Why even questioning these things
>Inb4 lost
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>>122665085
>>122665085
>Sayaka and Kyouko get turned into plot devices so that they can meet their demise as the plot demands it
How dare things happen for the purpose of story progress, that is totally not a common thing in literature since it exists.
Their deaths made sense and served the plot well, that is what matters.
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>>122665394
Me too
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>>122665269
i think that anon is referring to when characters are used only to advance the plot with no regard to the development to those characters.

i don't think that can apply to kyouko or sayaka though. it's just a case of not having ENOUGH time to develop their characters
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>>122665467
>jokes on her, I was just pretending to be retarded!
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>>122664409
/A hate anime
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>>122665427
8/10 = shit
9/10 = bad
10/10 = acceptable
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>>122665089
>inflated rating
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>>122665509
This is an epic meme, friend. You may not like it, you may think it's stupid, but falling for it shows that you're a newfag nonetheless.
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>>122665509
>her
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>>122665509
>her
How's life on hard mode?
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>>122665191
Homura happens to be an expert on the subject.
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>>122664409
>>122665091
>>122665490
>All these lewd Madokas
>go to exhentai to finish
>first result
>wasn't disappointed.
http://exhentai.org/g/796772/c2be2622b7/
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>>122665574
>>122665615
/a/ is mostly girls now. Didn't you get the memo?
http://www.urlai.com/url/boards.4chan.org-a
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>>122664409
I am an ass lover, but that ass makes absolutely no sense. And Tomoe has a ballsack (I'm aware what hairy/puffy vagoos look like. thats a ballsack)

What an awful drawing
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>>122665736
>Personal is an opposite of academic
what?
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>>122665718
>3DPD
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>>122665765
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>>122665855
who is that titless bimbo and where is Mami?
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>>122665736
>boards.4chan.org-a is the 698th most upset blog of 3374 ranked.
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>>122665736
>/a/ is mostly girls now.
Not imouto`s, disappiontment/10
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>>122665926
Check out /pol/
>boards.4chan.org-pol is the 363th most upset blog of 3374 ranked.
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>>122666187
Imoutos are passé. Onee-chans are where it's at now.
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>>122666302
>onee-chans is were it`s at
Well shit, that`s like asking for the impossible.
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>>122664409
How can Mami be so perfect?
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>>122666408
She has a good head on her shoulders.
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>>122665736
chuckleworthy

also:
>boards.4chan.org-pol is the 361th most upset blog of 3374 ranked
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>thread posted via Madoka
>just finished

Can you circlejerk faggots make threads without falseflagging lying and bullshitting?
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>>122666689
What?
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>>122666733
>the pope comes out of Rome and asks me who Jesus is
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>>122666778
What exactly is that supposed to be? Are you sure you don't have a filter active?
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>>122666778
Is that one of those philosophical deals, like "Who is Jesus to you" or something like that?
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>>122666408
CREDENS JUSTITIAM
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>>122666829
No. I am.
OP is the pope saying he never heard who Jesus Christ is.

Same with yurifags.

>Thread starts with ''/a/ now hates yuri what the fuck happend?''
>thread posted via yuri

You are all very funny.
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>>122666907
Your use of the word "via" is confusing.
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>>122666907
>via yuri
What does this even mean
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>>122666907
I legitimately don't understand what the hell you're talking about.
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>>122666936
see>>122666778

http://catalog.neet.tv/a/

Check yourself.
Hold the mouse over the thread.
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>>122666872
SOLTI OLA I
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>>122666982
It says page 2.
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>>122666982
I think it's time for sleep anon.
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>>122666982
See I get that too, but that's because I specifically have several filters set up on the catalog to highlight threads that may interest me. "via" in this case refers to the keyword that triggered the filter. That's why I asked you to check if you had any filters active. Otherwise I'm not sure what exactly you think that means. What do you think that means?
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>>122667109
>>122667122
Guess you are better off not knowing.
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Homu Homu
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>>122667143
It's like Twitter, of course. They clearly posted this thread "via" the Madoka 4chan app
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>>122667176
Wow what a cryptic statement.
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>>122665674
Underrated post
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>>122667012
PASTIAROSA
RESTING AH~
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>>122667251
There was a time when I couldn't masturbate to Megucas, that time is long gone though.
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This is why you watch what interests you and form your opinions, fuck /a/.
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>>122667012
>Mami loudly sings this song to cheer herself up when she's lonely and scared
I choose to believe this is canon.
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AMALICHE CANTIA MASA ESTIAAAAAAAAAA
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>>122667779
Now she have a cheese goblin to sing with her.
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>>122667907
I kind of doubt Nagis can sing, that would mean she was useful in some way.
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>>122668034
She can play a trumpet so it already helps.
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>>122668034
She gives great head.
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>>122667779
Well, she already hums it. Singing it is no far at all.
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>>122668161
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>>122668259
What sort of horrors have this dog seen?
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>>122668108
So far all we've heard form her is one high-pitched wail and explosive bubbles. I'm not impressed.
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>>122668419
Can you do that with a trumpet?
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>>122668498
Yes.
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>>122668498
I have to admit I could never get any brass instrument to make a damn sound whatsoever.
I was first chair clarinet in middle school band though.

It's a magical trumpet anyway.
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>>122664409
You made the same mistake 90% of /a/ seems to make.

>"Is this good"
>First reply "It's shit"
>"Oh, I guess /a/ hates it for sure them. Why does /a/ suddenly hate....."

First answer or reply about everything is always "It's shit", that's what it means to be /a/. Never go along with the first or second reply, instead wait for them all to come in and weigh them all a bit. The serious replies will sometimes come a few minutes later, but the quick replies are almost always something quick you can type without thinking much, and often about how its terrible.

/a/ is pretty "Everything is shit, nothing is sacred, everything is terrible", the only thing you might not hear it being terrible as a first reply about something is probably Yotsuba, Azumanga, or Planetes. If something is popular especially, it's shit for sure.
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>>122668546
Then come back when you shoot explosive bubbles from your clarinet.
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>>122668639
Fine, I'll show you.
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>>122664503
I went in expecting nothing, having heard nothing, and it's one of my all-time favourites.
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>>122665191
Or it's like you made all of that up and Madoka was very well received while airing, subsequently followed by a wave of backlash as people wouldn't shut up about it, just like almost every popular anime until recent years, where the wave of backlash hits before people even start liking any potentially popular show.
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>>122665480
sometimes a little clothing is hotter than no clothing
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>>122665615
>being a girl
>hard mode
I can't wat hard enough.
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>>122668703
On a related note, looking at the "clarinet" tag on the boorus alerted me to the fact that Roberta's familiars play clarinet in Oktavia's orchestra. Never even noticed that.
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>>122669110
It is when you're a lesbian, but that's more related to sexuality than gender.
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>>122664409
Learn the lesson
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>>122669199
Also never really noticed that Gisela's familiar is right there and the background looks like Izabel's barrier. AND there's some Klarissas, who didn't even exist except in timeline 3 with the alternate Oktavia barrier. And Uhrmann's familiars twirling around behind the Elly-familiar tubaists. Damn Sayaka's got a lot of familiars following her around. I don't recognize those other backup dancers with the yellow dresses though.
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>>122669726
>Damn Sayaka's got a lot of familiars following her around.
Well, she is acting commander-in-chief here
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>>122669662
Should i start streaming?
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>>122669769
As expected of the paladin. All being a charismatic leader and attracting others to her god's cause and whatnot. I'm so proud of her.
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>>122669779
only if you use crunchyroll
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>>122669779
You should at least avoid those ghetto GeoCities-esque pages that basically upload fansubs and recompress them down to RMVB-tier quality
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>>122669905
She needs better armor.
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>>122669769
>commander-in-chief
Nigga, she's fucking Archangel Michael here. She's destined to punch the devil in the face and kick her off the world.
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>>122670036
Armor is for chumps without auto-regen.
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POWER RANKINGS

1. Mami
>would make a great wife, will make you tea and let your motorboat her boobs

2. Homura
>would be a loving girlfriend but is also a potential yandere

3. Madoka
>cute and nice, i bet she's great in bed too

4. Sakura
>a cool chick, but will probably be fat as fuck by the time you and her are in your 30s

5. Sayaka
>fun to be around, but just not as good as the others. Also she's probably a pain in her ass on her period

DISCLAIMER: all madokas are good
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>>122670069
Hey man I don't see how that's mutually exclusive with what I said!
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It's underrated on /a/
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>>122670100
>stacking regen
>getting hit
Switch to a real class
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>>122670100
>not stacking armor and regen
Do you even tank?
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>>122670285
>getting hit
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>>122670100
>>122670230
>>122670285
Madoka MMO when?
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The best thing about the entire Madoka franchise is how Mami says Tiro Finale.
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>>122670373
Don't hold your breath. Maybe you'll get another Vita game or something.
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>>122670355
>going evasion
>dies in one slap
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>>122670230
>caring about damage when you're a zombie

>>122670285
With armor it'd be hard to go fast though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX-h4XAUHgM
Also breakdancing.
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>>122670512
>go fast
Anon, high damage and high resistance at the cost of speed is the best build.
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Every so often I wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat with the cake song echoing in my mind.
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>>122670659
Keiki wa Sayaka?
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>>122670610
Sounds boring. Aerial acrobatic maneuvers are part of what makes Sayaka-chan cool.
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>>122670722
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>>122665524
10/10 is mediocre at best. Get your facts straight
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>>122670781
All i care about is defense, and showed to have it when taking a beating from Kyouko.
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>>122670843
No need to cry. At least you're a Raspberry.
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Show was great, so was Rebellion.

Homufags are mentally deranged. Female Homufags should be gassed.
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>people who listen to the fanbase think its a masterpiece and end up hating it
>people who listen to the hatebase think its shit and end up loving it
ITS FUCKING MEDIOCRE YOU GUYS. 6 or 7 out of 10.
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>>122670999
Well then you're lame.
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>>122671034
You just mad you'll never be as ubermensch as Homu.
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>>122671081
Don't underestimate the tank.
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>>122671060
This is retarded, you don't form your opinion around a show solely based on what other people tell you unless you're a fucking drone incapable of forming your own thoughts.
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>>122670154
>the straight one is the lowest
This is why you can't get a date, anon.
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>>122670423
And the fact she is a huge slut
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>>122670154
Mami and Homura are the clingiest, Sayaka would start enjoying your hobbies even if she never head of it and Madoka would be the best mother of them, since she helps taking care of her little brother already.
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>>122671293
But she is the highest, anon.
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>>122671490
Mami took care of this thing on her own, though.
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>>122671621
Mami was always the motherly figure, i don't need to mention the cheese gremlin.
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>>122671494
>placing 5th is better than placing 1st
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>>122664409
Madoka is mega popular and was well received by pretty much everyone while it was airing, from casuals to the hardcore otaku to the "watching anime for serious plot and characters" crowd. It's still winning "best anime" awards from actual outlets that matter in the year 2015.

It also has a small and very vocal base of anti-fans who are mad that their favorite shows don't get the same attention, mostly Precure and Nanoha fans.
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>some random fag starts Madoka thread with blatant flaming comments
>madofags hijacking (75% chance)
>blogging, circlejerking and waifufagging with homuhater, tripfags, imagedumpers
>if there's no serious circlejerking like TDS canon or crack-kun emergence, thread would slowly hit imagelimits and go die.
>they repeat this pathetic cycles like Homura

>but they are still happy with this since PMMM is a Masterpiece.
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>>122671293
might as well ignore the fact that they're lesbians while i'm ignoring that they are fictional characters

and the real reason i can't get a date is because i am the type of guy who browses /a/, which why you can't get a date either
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>>122664409
/a/ has always been torn by Madoka.

You got people like me saying it's better than bad, but less than amazing.
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Watched this on a friend's recommendation. Seemed like a dopey little girl cartoon at first (but with nice background art I guess), then suddenly ALIENS! TIME TRAVEL! THE WORLD IS ENDING! PEOPLE TURNING INTO MONSTERS!

And then I changed my mind to "yeah, okay, this is actually watchable, and I like the alien dude."
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>>122671798
And there is always one guy that complains even though it's too late to change it.
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>>122671872
Subscribed
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>>122670154
While you got the right meguca as #1, you are a very lewd person.
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>>122671701
My bad, I thought we were talking about the same girl.
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Give 3 reasons to hate me. Just Try. You cant. Just praise me instead. I make the show
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>>122672299
You eat too much, I don't like gluttons.
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>>122671817
I'm not a guy though.
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>>122672299
Not hate particularly, but on rewatching I realised how similar she sounds to Kafuka.
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>>122672299
1) Your shorts are too short

2) You didn't act sad enough when you heard that your senpai died.

3) You abandoned Mami-san and went with the Raspberry in the Homuverse
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>>122672635
How can you hate her, if you ship her with Mami?
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>>122672635
No one can resist the raspberry, that's unfair.
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>>122672635
She's become rather used to death, rather she's thought Mami would have died long ago before that point. Kyouko herself had embraced death at one point when she seperated from Mami when her parents died, but she just kept going day by day, and eventually found the will to survive again. Even if she had to become a bad girl, she lived on.

Only time she cared about Mami living was when they were able to bridge the gap again a bit, and Kyouko found some forgiveness for herself as it started to set right again.

It's, whatever you call it. Pragmatic I guess, but the kind of pragmatic like Homura here there's still some light underneath, but you're far too ready to see some darkness on top of it for now without blinking.
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>>122672697
I don't hate her, but if I did hate her, I would hate her for those reasons. And I don't exactly ship them.

>>122672834
>No one can resist the raspberry
Kyosuke seemed to a good job at it.
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>>122672834
>mfw reading that filename as "porn queen sayaka"
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>>122672299
Why would I hate you?

>>122672635
Don't you try to tease me by posting AppleCheese Danish? Homu thread has new posts with irish megucas.
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>>122672962
Kyousuke is violin-sexual, he has eyes for no woman.

>>122673011
Lewd mind.
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Is /a/ aware of how bad the end to madoka was? I know that it was foreshadowed, but it totally contradicted with the theme of the show. Everyone who made a wish got fucked, where the bigger the wish the more fucked they got, but when madoka goes ahead and CHANGES THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE she just shoots away all the bad stuff with an arrow. How can one defend that? I mean, I loved the series all the way up to that point and personally couldn't think of any other good conclusion to the story but man that was weak.
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>>122673063
It was directly stated that Madoka could make a world-changing wish as far back as like episode 2 man, pay attention. And it doesn't contradict the themes of the show because she had to sacrifice herself to do it.
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>>122672962
>Kyosuke seemed to a good job at it.
He had something better to eat.
>shorts too short
And here i thought you had good taste!
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>>122673117
>It was directly stated that Madoka could make a world-changing wish as far back as like episode 2 man, pay attention.

Reread what I wrote, I explicitly wrote that I knew it was foreshadowed

>And it doesn't contradict the themes of the show because she had to sacrifice herself to do it.
>sacrifice

You mean turn into madoka god? Doesn't seem like that big of a consequence considering how enormous her wish was.
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>>122673063
Everything wish comes with a backlash or negative side

Half of the negative parts of it were killed by the wordings of Madoka's own wish, since she wished to be able to destroy all witches without fail. Her own dark side could not destroy the universe with a universal sized witch, because due to the wording of the wish she has an absolute advantage over all the darkness like this.

The other negative side, is that now Madoka has given up her humanity, her life, this is worse than having had died in a sense, the more you think about it this can be far worse. She is now forever, in order to save a few dozen girls in the world temporarily.

She has perhaps chosen what might become eternal torment with time for such a small thing. However she has chosen it by her will.

She has enough power to change the universe due to karmic destiny and everything that's set up here, along with her own potential. I mean she can, but she still has to make the right wish for it to take full effect. In the end she chose a wish without a very small particular backside. Her own witch could not destroy the world, because her own wish kills it
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>>122673126
He eats that bow. And I mean the violin bow not that pink bow.
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>>122673246
>Doesn't seem like that big of a consequence considering how enormous her wish was
Homura would very definitely disagree. As would meta-timeline Mami. Just because you don't think she sacrificed "enough" doesn't mean she didn't sacrifice. The difference with Madoka is that of all the other girls, she alone knew the full consequences beforehand and chose to accept that burden, rather than being tricked or rushed into it.
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>>122664409
Your show is shit when the MC is replaced by another character near the end
Madoka a shit
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>>122664409
>listening to butthurt minority of harem shitters
>ever
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>>122673389
So that's what you meant the last time.
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>>122664503

Sure thing. It became a hit the first time it was airing because people were told what to expect.
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>>122673027
>Don't you try to tease me
Yes, because you are so damn moe when you get flustered.
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>>122673761

Yeah dude. Everything should be the same generic shit following the same formula.
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>>122673836
What else would I have meant?

>>122673948
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>>122673949
>same generic shit following the same formula
Madoka was an awful MC.
Her presence was barely felt as a main character and she was dull as fuck. She was a generic audience fill in.
The show would have been much better if the MC was Homura or Sayaka
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>>122673985
I was confused about the "bow".
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>>122674011
>hating Madoka
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>>122674011
>The show would have been much better if the MC was Homura

Then you'd just complain that the MC was a Mary Sue and an audience self-insert.
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>>122674336
Homura wasnt a Mary sue that was Madoka.
Homura had at least a goal and an objective
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>>122674336
>Mary Sue
Before Rebellion the only advantage she had was her time stop, she wasn't agile and fast like that.
Still would get rekt by Mami or Kyouko.
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>>122674011
>The show would have been much better if the MC was Homura or Sayaka
They practically were, they got about as much screentime as Madoka.
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>>122674011
She was a great main character, and the only one who might learn everything needed to make the proper magical girl fixing wish.

Homura/Sayaka are in too deep, they'd never be able to do what Madoka did. Inevitable bad end. They work best as already established characters.
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>>122674526
Yet it was mainly from Madokas Perspective till near the end.
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>>122664409
it was a 6/10 for me, it wasn't bad but it was mediocre. Didn't care for any of the characters and the story was pretty bleh. The first 9 episodes are so boring but the conclusion is pretty satisfying. I don't care to see the movie

I did really liked the art design of the witches and labyrinths though.
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Homu did nothing wrong.
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>>122674672
Oktavia best witch.
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>>122674735
To bad we couldn't get Ophelia and Candeloro.
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>>122674811
Mami could have transformed but it wouldn't be as funny as shooting Kyouko.
If Kyouko transformed would Ophelia fight Oktavia?
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>>122674719
Does Mami do it for the money?
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Why is there so many chairs in Madokas room? She doesn't have many friends so I doubt she'll need that many.
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>>122674719
>Mami's musket
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>>122674872
This is why we need OVA's for the Homu timelines she's been through. Maybe the became witches in certain timlines. Also Ophelia is fire and Oktavia is water so there is that, but Ophelia can use Rosso Phantasma.
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>>122674983
It's not just Madoka's room, Mitakihara as a whole has a chair infestation.
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>>122675039
And she have a cool horse.
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>>122675039
Kyouko's powers were illusions and hypnosis, mind-tricks in general including controlling others in part, or just fooling their senses.

Shadow Clone Jutsu was just one application of those powers
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>>122675039
Water > Fire
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>>122675024
Didn't notice. Also I want Sayaka's sword shooting pistol.

>>122675064
That too.
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>>122675053
But why? Is this anime trying to be deep or some shit?
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>>122675245
Bokurano reference probably.
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>>122675104
I remember Rosso Phantasm, but when did she use jedi mind trick?
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Why is my waifu, Miki Sayaka-chan, so very perfect and so very in love with me?
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>>122675326
>in love with me
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>>122675104
You can cause alot of trouble fooling your enemies.

>>122675109
Your tastes.

>>122675245
It's telling you to sit down for the ending so you don't fall on your face.

>>122675326
Got tired of one page thread?
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>>122675326
Well, you're half right.
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>>122675306
It's just talked about in data-books and interviews mainly, much like how most of how her powers work.

I think she uses it once or twice in TDS, but that's about as much as we've ever seen her powers really, since she lost them before the show started.

Mostly interviews

I mean I could try to find them I guess. Maybe they're on the wiki.
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>>122675109
>HURRY UP AND BEAT GODZILLA OR THE WORLD WILL MELT!

>HURRY UP AND BEAT GAMERA OR THE WORLD WILL GET SLIGHTLY WETTER!

Magic whale was such a letdown.
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>>122675369
>Slander
>>122675381
Kind of. I found some very lovely YouTube videos of Honeyworks.

>>122675386
I'm always 100% right.
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>>122675499
Hey water is no joke man read the bible
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>>122675499
I need more laughing megucas.

>>122675529
Honeyworks?

>>122675369
>Implying
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>>122675607
Cute romance songs and stuff.
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>>122664437
Homura did nothing wrong though
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>>122675399
>Q - So what is the magic power of Kyoko?
>A - Regarding Kyoko, it is really very special. Because she got her wish of "getting people to listen" while in fact it was something like charming or hallucination, she got the magic power related to those things. However, because she lost her family, she totally negated those power with her subconscious mind. As a result, she fought only with the magic power she learnt later. This is the "hidden setting" (ura-settei) for her, although we never got to tell it in the anime.

>Alternative translation from /a/ - Kyoko's magic is actually rather unique. Due to her wish for "People to listen" her true magic is about shining light on things and illusions and such. That's the kind of magic she had. However, after losing her family she began to subconsciously reject that magic, and thus by the time of the events in the anime she had already lost those powers. That's why she only fought with the magic she learned after that. We had that all set up behind the scenes, but were never able to work it into the story to explain it explicitly.

Can't find the other interview yet
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>>122675645
>google honeyworks
>A Solution for Jealousy at first video result

Very nice song. I'll check them out later.
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>>122675127
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>>122676050
I was trying to look for that image, but everything is such an unorganized mess that I gave up and posted the other since its on the far right side.
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>>122676138
I want a spin-off with them as their witches, doing evil things.
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>>122676243
Sayaka's witch isn't even evil, brah.
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>>122676243
Madoka many produce so many spin-offs.
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>>122676262
They aren't even smart i guess, only Charlotte had some tricks.
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>>122676262
None of the witches are evil, dumbutt

They're just magical girls, that have lost control and reason.
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>>122676317
I don't understand what you mean by that. It's hard to explain my feelings about witches, but Sayaka's witch was very sad. It had no reason to hurt other people like most other witches.

>>122676354
No, no, no. Some of them are evil and kill people. Just like how Homura and Madoka wanted to go on a killing spree when they became witches.
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>>122676397
This is cute.
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>>122676396
If only Oktavia didn't attack Kyouko and Madoka.
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>>122676491
They broke into her house. Of course she's going to attack them.
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>>122676549
But they are friends. Even as a witch, Sayaka is foolish.
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>>122676396
Well, Madoka became the most evil witch ever as Kyubey said. Oktavia was just there playing her music and doing nothing and Homulily wanted to die anyway.
>>122676491
Charlotte didn't attack Mami either, or that was part of her decoy strategy.
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>>122676396
None of the witches want to kill others. Madoka didn't become witches in that scene, they just were like "Fuck it, may as well become this thing". Witches killing humans is usually unintentional, while they're wrapped up in their own shit usually. A fraction of what they used to be, now they're forever enveloped in their own delusions, without logic or reason.

Homulily - Repeats her own death for all eternity, turns back the block, kills herself, repeat

Candeloro - Abducts people and forces them to have tea parties forever

Gretchen - Tries to save humanity, in a potentially destructive and forceful way or something

Ophelia - Witch of solitude, even her own familiars don't hang out with her, forever alone.

Oktavia - Obsesses about music and her lost love forever

Bebe - Just wants to eat cheese and candy, sometimes mistakes people for such things.

They aren't actively trying to cause damage ever, they're just lost to their selves in madness.
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>>122676491
She seemed to stop attacking when Kyouko went all serious romantic sacrifice mode on her.
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>>122676590
Sayaka was trapped. There was nothing she could do.

>>122676600
Exactly. They were going to do their last wishes. Sayaka just wanted to wallow in despair.

>>122676616
What about the TV witch?
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>>122676600
>>122676650
Kyouko didn't attack Oktavia while Mami attacked Charlotte.
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>>122676676
I forgot to mention that, but Mami does say the witch knew they were there and was sending her rat familiars.
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>>122676676
They interrupted her despair. I'd be pissed too!
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>>122676616
Candeloro is so cute.

>>122676773
You'd think seeing a friend trying to ease your despair and make attempts to save you would make you happy. Hell, I would've played them some music.
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>>122676773
I still think she should be singing like a proper mermaid, and not being a maestro.
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>>122676843
She still didn't really see Kyoko as a friend and she saw Madoka as a betrayer.

>>122676873
In one timeline she might have been singing.
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>>122676908
Oktavia is very foolish. A singing Oktavia, I wonder how that would've sounded like.
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>>122676947
A lot of spooky metallic noises and screeches coming from her helmet.
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>>122676947
Like cats against a nail board.
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>>122675904
Why are Madoka and Sayaka such lewd kouhai-tachi?

>>122676947
>A singing Oktavia, I wonder how that would've sounded like.
[Inarticulate yelling]
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>>122677005
>>122677021
>>122677024
But mermaids lure sailers with their alluring voices.
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>>122676908
She didn't really see anything, that's half the point. A witch isn't in control anything, it's just a soul that's gone rabid and lost all reason or control.

That's the reason they couldn't save Sayaka there or bring her back to her senses like they thought. Her soul had just lost all reason and become a force without any intelligence of a certain sort backing it up anymore. Now it's little more than a monster that can only hurt others, even if unintentionally.

That's how witches work; the are the souls of magical girls that have lost all control/reason and gone berserk. A witch summoned while the magical girl is still alive, like we see in the movie, that's a soul being used while intelligence and reason are still in command, so it's not Berserk. At that point it's basically a Stand.

Witches are never evil though, they're just souls that have gone Berserk. You think they're still reasonable and intelligent beings at all, you're rationalizing why it saw this like this and how it saw that like that, for why it attacked them there, that's not how it works. It had already run out of reason in every form.

Only reason that Homura's witch still had some reason underneath it all in the movie is because she didn't really witch out in a sense, they were still within her soul gem. They were just in her pseudo world of the mind, she tried to abandon all reason to kill herself, but she had not actually witches out. In the real world she's stuck in time inbetween being a witch and not being a witch still.

Witches don't need reasons for why they do this, how they do this, they saw this person as a betrayer, they didn't trust this person. You're rationalizing like they're still people, but that's the reason why they couldn't save her by talking through it at the end there. Because it was just a soul gone berserk, there was no sense left to that beast.
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>>122676947
>In Episode 9 when Kyouko is shown to pass through Sayaka's barrier, it is shown that when Oktavia shouts, a distorted scream is also heard and is known to be Sayaka's voice. This most likely meant Sayaka wanted to express her feelings but she could not because of her broken state. As seen before her transformation to be a witch, she had issues speaking to Kyouko. With her life reaching its end, she could not help herself in the situation.

At least she tried.
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>>122677118
What did you expect from Sayabaka?
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>>122677021
Does that image mean you and I can't hang out?
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>>122677159
>>122677165
Poor Sayaka.
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>>122677133
I feel bad for not being able to respond properly to your feelings.

I also miscommunicated. Oktavia just wanted to suffer alone.

>>122677173
It means we can't date.
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I want to listen to Sayaka singing opera, dressed as Oktavia.
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Where can I buy the Sayaka's soulgem?
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Madoka never loved Homura and will be glad to abandon and kill her in accordance to her hope. Hopeless evil doesn't belong.

Homura never did anything good or useful for anyone. She is a talentless failure who deserves to die.
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>>122677402
I imagine what talking to Homuhater personally must be like.
>hey Homuhater, dinner is ready
>speaking of dinner, Homura won't have any dinner in the hell Madoka will throw her
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>>122677332
It's sad to suffer alone.

I read hangout.

>>122677472
Heh.
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Sayaka: "She was talking about me."

Oktavia: "No, me."

How will Kyouko get out of this DAI PINCHI?
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>>122677555
Suffering alone is the best.
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>>122677881
Find out in the next episode of "Everyone wants the apple!".
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>>122664409
Now watch Rebellion and let's see if you can say the same again.
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>>122677893
No it's not. If you suffer, i'll try and ease your pain.
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>>122677881
Pick Mami
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>>122677893
Too bad she didn't go the yandere route.
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>>122678002
Damn that Kyousuke.
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>>122677952
A wise choice.
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>>122677951
Nope, I like suffering alone just like Sayaka-chan.

I want to become a witch.

>>122678002
Nah, it's alright. It's better this way. Yandere is unrealistic.
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>>122678002
Dumb cliche yandere image is dumb.
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>>122678079
Buzzclaw!

>>122678080
Becoming a witch is overrated. No one should suffer any form of despair.
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>>122677930
He won't. Homura ruined everything, anyone who watches that and enjoys it hates every character besides Homura and is a piece of shit just like her.

She is a useless cunt that deserves to die. She ruined Mami's life, got her killed, and made her miserable many timelines. She tore Madoka and Sayaka apart out of jealousy, tortured Sayaka, let her despair and enjoyed it, and brainwashed her into submission. She got Kyouko killed, betrayed her trust, ruined her life, and used her like a disposable tool out of spite for being better than her. She did immeasurable evil to Madoka, including her original wish, never did anything good for her, and ruined her life, wish, happiness and purity out of insane, obsessive cruelty.

She deserves no less than endless suffering in abandonment for her crimes. Madoka never lived her and will be happy to grant her this fate worse than death.
>Begone, devil. I wish now I never laid eyes on you, that you were torn apart by that witch years ago. Nobody would have missed you. Nobody needed you. Nobody loved you.
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>>122678212
>Madoka never lived her

What?
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>>122678272
It's obviously a hasty typo for loved, retard.
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>>122678272
Madoka never lived here. She's an abstract concept.
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>>122678329
So out of all words, loved was misspelled? Doesn't seem like a hasty type and I say this typing on a Vita screen.
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>>122678387
Hey, just curious. Can Vita play webm?
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>>122678590
No
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>>122678165
It's fine.
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>>122678628
We all may need to vent out to a friend when things get overwhelming.
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>>122678714
It's fine. We'll all be fine.
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>>122678714
>We all may need to vent out to the anonymous imageboard when things get overwhelming.
Sorry, I have no friend.
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>>122678779
If you say so.

>>122678810
You have 4chan.
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>>122678714
>having a friend
What a faggot
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>>122678853
It's fun watching anime with other people.
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>>122678875
R..really?
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Madoka has been top anime since 2011.
There is no anime that tops it since then.
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>>122678875
>watching anime with other people.
I lost all my friends this way.
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>>122678980
Well, from my experience, yes.

>>122679004
Bad luck?
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>>122679020
They all had shit taste anyway.
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>>122679002
Weak bait
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>>122679151
How is stating facts a bait?
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>>122679151
It's true though
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>>122679151
but it's true anon
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>>122664409
Nigga you should know by now that Neo-/a/ compulsively shit talks any popular good anime.
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G'night Kevin-kun and everyone else.
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>>122679274
Good-night.

>>122679213
Neo-/a/ doesn't exist.
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>>122679166
>opinions are now facts

pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/
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>>122664409
Anyone that honestly didn't like Madoka watched it after being spoiled.

Going into it while it was being aired after a bunch of ads from Shaft showing it off as a regular magical girl anime was what made it successful.
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>>122679002
I don't think this is a big deal, because I don't recall any recent anime that aimed as high as Madoka to begin with.

We don't have to have a 9.6/8 MASTERPIECE every year; I'm fine with the current era of comfy slice-of-life shows.
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I wish that I could turn back time
To Jan 2011
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>>122679428
>anime that aimed as high as Madoka
One of the most interesting things is that Madoka was never expected to succeed like that.
Everyone on staff talks how they were surprised by how popular and acclaimed it got.

Saying that Madoka aimed high shows you don't really understand it.

And this is exactly why Rebellion is such a crap. Not even Shinbo understands what made Madoka so "good".
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Man, Madoka really was 4 years ago. I think we're overdue for another masterpiece.
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>>122679566
I don't have it on my laptop, but there's a chart showing that masterpieces come every 14 or 17 years or something. We have a long road ahead.
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>>122679566
Still have 6 years.
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>>122679299
anon please. First, spoilers increase enjoyment more often than not. Second, a huge portion of the hype that led up to Madoka's popularity was when Urobuchi's involvement was leaked. Madoka spread like wildfire before it even aired because the gap between Urobuchi on screenwriting and Ume-tentei on chara designs was so appealing.

I like the effort, but you're too eager to write off people who didn't enjoy Madoka. There's no need for that sort of vindictive mindset.
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>>122679624
Why would I want to take revenge on people that didn't like an anime?
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>>122679624
I agree with him that spoilers make Madoka much less enjoyable.

The gap you are talking about resulted in expectations about what is going to happen.
There are many major twists that people simply didn't see coming and knowing about them greatly impacts the feeling of those twists.

I still vividly remember /a/'s reactions to each episode and discussions that follow.
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I'm going to fatten up Mami and Madoka next.
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>>122679779
Did you give up on Kyouko?
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>>122664409
It was popular enough for /a/ to hate, because the constant threads are taking away spots for important shit like daily Miyazaki bait threads and other QUALITY discussion.
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>>122679848
I said next. Kyouko is adequately squishy for now.
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>>122679779
Mami-san can't be fattened up, she has a magic metabolism.
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>>122679876
Go for Sayaka, she is a fatty.
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>>122664409
I guess you realized it already after 300 posts, OP, but it wasn't the show that was bad, it was the fanbase
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>>122679935
It was a solid 6/10. But the fanbase with delusions of grandeur is 1/10.
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Kyouko has no business being this cute and sexy.
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>>122679560
>Saying that Madoka aimed high shows you don't really understand it.
Tunneling in on a single vague statement to try to derive a critical understanding of the speaker shows you really don't understand how people work.

The high concentration of fresh talent gives the show that "all-star appeal," kind of like, say, Chrono Trigger.

Madoka's creators didn't aim high, but their talents betray their expectations, and holistically the show is a masterpiece because of how marvelously every single piece comes together. For example, writers like Urobuchi and Horii come up with amazing premises but they don't overstay their welcome in the development process. They create a skeleton and leave it to the rest of the team to breath life into their story premise.

But hey, you watched the show too. I shouldn't need to go through every name of the staff and explain how they outdid themselves.
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>>122679935
>muh fanbase
What the hell were you expecting? Have you ever seen an instance of a massively popular thing where all of the hundreds of thousands of fans were awesome people?
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What state did Madoka live in for 3 years in Homuverse?
This is very important.
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>>122679560
>candothat
ruined
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>>122679892
You underestimate my skill anon, I need only to feed her until she grows tired and sluggish. I'm sure she won't mind all my attention though.
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>>122680464
Then fuck her slim so you can repeat it?
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>>122680649
>slim
Nope, impregnate.
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>>122680714
It's not fun if you won't be able to repeat it.
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>>122675306
It gets mentioned when she's in the church with Sayaka and offers an apple, then Sayaka alludes that she can't accept something from a criminal.
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Would Meguca have been as popular without Ume-sensei's designs?
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>>122676947
Probably something like metal and a whale or dolphins song(though I guess dolphins are whales so whatever.)
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>>122682147
Whose designs would it have? This is important.
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>>122676947
Like an KitaEri single of course
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>>122682147
Depends on who would have designed it instead.
But Ume's designs make them stand out and unique in comparison to everything else.
Unlike something like boys on the run which also has a unique and great style/art, Ume's is more universally cute while remaining unique
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