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Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

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Which order do I want this show and is it worth watching?
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Haruhi dies.
Kyon becomes moe.
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>>122615527
Boku no Pico
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Chronological order is for babies.
Are you a baby?
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>>122615527
>order
anyway you want

>is it worth watching
no
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>>122615527
Watch broadcast order, always.

That goes for everything.

Unless you're a big faggot.
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>>122615527
end yurself
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It's shit. Watch Lucky Star instead. That has enough Haruhi.
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>>122615527
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>>122615682
I was going to watch this first to somewhat understand the jokes
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>>122615527
Oh for Pete's sake. Watch it in airing order first, and if Haruhi is your cup of tea, go for watching it in chronological order.

Anything's worth watching if it's up your alley. Do you like science fiction fantasy wrapped up in a slice of life without either feeling particularly intrusive? Do you like what you've seen of the art design? The soundtrack is alright, nothing much to write home about aside from the first OP and ED, as well as Only God Knows. Animation's superb because it's KyoAni. I recommend it.
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>>122615826
>chronological order.
Is season two already in chronological order by air date?
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>>122616007
Yes, it is. First season is not, and for whatever reason is known only to the director. Also, I highly suggest skipping episode 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 of season 2 because that is the infamous Endless Eight arc, and that was a brutal fucking arc for all but the most dedicated Haruhi fan.
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Every where I watch it it's already in chronological order
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>>122616406
So 14 ep season one and 14 season two?
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>>122616524
Yes, if you choose to watch it all the way through. Afterwards, there is a movie called the Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. It's one of my favorite anime films besides Ghost in the Shell and Jin-Roh, and is spectacular in quality.
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>>122616699
I just seen this http://haruhi.wikia.com/wiki/Anime
So the episodes from season 2are mix up with season 1? Sorry just confused
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>>122616811
Huh. Didn't see that. Well, I guess a couple episodes of S1 belong in S2. Honestly, if you want chronological order follow that. I would have been able to tell you by heart a few years ago but I haven't really fawned over this old hearthrob of mine for a long time. My personal suggestion is air order. You'll be able to understand it and appreciate the series as it was presented by the studio.

If you like to read I recommend the Light Novels, all translated into English and ready to read as far as I know
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Do the airing order first and chronological if you plan to rewatch it. You can't do it the opposite.
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>>122616995
Thanks for the help
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Just watch it in season 2 order and be done with it.
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>>122617265
No problem, have a nice day.
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Haruhi. Watch it in any order and it's still shit.
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Don't fuck around christ, just watch it chronological because that's how anyplace you go is going to list the episodes anyway and the only real reason to watch broadcast is because you're a tremendous faggot who needs a big "climax" at the end of the first season. Why would you ever listen to a tripfag anyway?
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I watched it in bacteriological order which I worked out by counting the face masks in each episode.

Japs man! Phoblic mofos.
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What is this climax every one talks about
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>>122617806
Melancholy VI
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How the hell do I watch a series in the original air date
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Haruhi is based as fuck. Arguably the best anime of all time.
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Chronological is the only order to watch it in if you're watching the entire series, and the only order the entire series was released in.
Broadcast is only good if you plan to watch one season and nothing else.
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>>122617806
>>122617954

It makes no sense watching it with this as the finale though because it's referred to in past tense in other episodes.

The one right after it for a start.
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Broadcast order.

Anyone suggests otherwise doesn't understand the concept of pacing.
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>>122624095
>not realizing that shit only matters while it's broadcasting
>not realizing Kyoani aired the entire series in chronological order ONLY for a reason
>not realizing someday in the rain is the perfect way to end the series
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>>122615527
People keep making these threads. Is this just trolling? If so, I really do not get it.

Also, broadcast order for your first time. Always for your first time. You can watch it chronologically later if you feel at all confused. The novels aren't in order, either, so one could argue that jumbled order is the natural way to Haruhi-ism.
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>>122623729
>because it's referred to in past tense in other episodes
But that's the fucking point. you know something happened but not what.
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>>122615527
Broadcast order, then if you care enough, chronological order.
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Has the entire series ever actually been broadcast in this so called "Broadcast order"?

Stop telling people lies.
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>>122615825
You could read the LN and understand that Haruhi meanders and goes nowhere despite pretending to have a plot.

It's a waste of time, but at least the LN is clever. The anime is just garbage.
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>>122615527
Watch it in the 2009 order, which is on the right of >>122617223 's image.

Any other answer is either shitposting or pointless elitism trying to make the show "2deep4u" by making it more complicated than it actually is.

2006 broadcast order is only worthwhile if you're only watching the first season. Doing 2006 broadcast order then the season 2 episodes in whatever order they were broadcasted makes no god damn sense, and has never ever been aired like that.

>>122624754
>one could argue that jumbled order is the natural way to Haruhi-ism.

No you couldn't. That's stupid. If broadcast order was the novel order, then sure. Nothing wrong with watching it like that, but novel order still has "m-muh climax" at the end of the first book, so you'd gain nothing by watching it that way.
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>>122624896
Has the entire series ever actually been broadcast in this so called "Broadcast order"?

Yes, when it was originally aired for the first time on Japanese television; hence why it's called "broadcast order".
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>>122615527

It is.

Chronological order for S1. Airing order for S2, then Disappearance
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>>122624988
If you pretend that only season 1 exists and it was only aired in 2006 then you'd be right.

However, since the 2009 rebroadcast gave us the actual coherent order of the series, it's a moot point. Broadcast order taken in the context of just the first season existing when there are 2 seasons is fucking dumb and needs to stop.
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>>122625057
Why can't you watch each season as it was originally aired? That's what I did with Haruhi in both 2006 and 2009 when S1 and S2 respectively.
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>>122625139
Hey if you want to rewatch all of season 1 and then watch endless eight eight times, who am I to say you shouldn't. If you like the series so much that it requires two consecutive watches then have at it.

Doesn't change the fact that it's a fucking dumb way to watch anything and shouldn't be suggested to people who want to get into it.
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>>122624948
>muuh why are there no esper war and laser guns
Paranormalfags are the worst.
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>>122625200
>The thing that got people into the series shouldn't be suggested to people who want to get into the series.

Okay.
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Any veterans here from E8?

I still have flashbacks sometimes. A part of me died back then. Maybe the best part.
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>>122625254
Are you for real? That might apply 9 years ago but not any more.
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>>122625304
I watched the whole thing when it was airing. I enjoyed spotting the differences in each episode after I realized they were going for a full eight episodes.

>>122625325
Why not? What specifically stops people from getting into it when watching it in broadcast order? I got into Haruhi from watching it in broadcast order without having read the light novels.
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>>122625250
Also Tsuruya-san, too. The LN's are actually compelling and interesting. Anime is moeshit.
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>>122625372
Broadcast order is fine if you're just talking about season 1. If that's all you want to watch then I'd definitely say watch it that way.

However, since 2009 we were given a new broadcast order with new episodes. There is no longer anything to gain by watching it in 2006 broadcast order unless you wanted to treat season 1 as the only Haruhi thing ever. It stands fine that was as a one-off anime.
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>>122625483
>There is no longer anything to gain by watching it in 2006 broadcast order
I will say that Live Alive should be watched after Sigh.
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>>122625372

You're a stronger man than me.

The really torturous part was the fact that we didn't know they were making Disappearance into a movie, so we basically realized what we thought was an S2 was more like S1.5.

Really, if they hadn't done that bullshit, they could have adapted at least adapted 2-3 stories that will probably never be adapted now, then released Disappearance after.

To this day, it makes my blood boil.
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>>122625385
There's no difference between them except the LN fleshes out a bit more Kyon's monologues and the anime makes the SOL parts better.
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>>122625483
I'm still failing to understand why the rebroadcast order supersedes the original S1 broadcast order then let's you watch S2 in it's standard order.
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>>122625638
Because S2 broadcast order includes all of season 1's episodes.

I mean sure if you wanna tell someone who wants to experience the series to rewatch the first season twice to really "get it" then wooo go for it. I just think it's fucking asinine and needlessly elitist. Don't blame me if they come back and shitpost about how it's overrated when you try to make it deeper than it is.
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>>122615527
>and is it worth watching?
No. The only people who like it are Gaiafags.
This is the Haruhi fanbase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDFaNTr44lE
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>>122624988
Wrong.
In 2006 Season one was broadcast out of order, in other words the first half of "Broadcast order".
In 2009 season one and two were broadcast together in "Chronological order".

The second half of "Broadcast order" doesn't exist in that order at all, and the season 2 episodes were never meant to be watched liked that at all.

Source if you don't want to believe for whatever reason, I don't want you pulling that [citation needed] crap on me.
>A re-broadcast of the first series began in April 2009.[15] Following a comment by Teletama one of the broadcasting stations, that the 2009 broadcast would be 28 episodes long, there was speculation that the re-broadcast would be followed by the second season, though this was not confirmed by Kadokawa at the time.[16][17] The first new episode, "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" (笹の葉ラプソディ Sasa no Ha Rapusodi?), was aired on May 21, 2009 as the eighth episode of the re-broadcast.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruhi_Suzumiya

Chronological order is fine anyway, especially since the problems caused by having the Melancholy arc first is rendered moot by the point that you don't have to wait for an episode each week. Two episodes after the melancholy arc is Remote island syndrome, which is exciting enough for the people who have ADD and can't having watching SoL episodes. After that are 4 more short story episodes, followed by Bamboo leaf Rhapsody, and the the infamous endless eight. And last is Sigh.

>>122625385
The anime is nearly a 1:1 adaptation of the novels, or at least the novels that were adapted. There's little reason to like them but not the anime. If there's one thing I really applaud the anime for though, is keeping the ambiguity in whether what Kyon says is outloud or in his head most of the time.
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>>122625734
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>>122625725
Okay, I see where I'm getting confused.

I'm not advocating that he watch S1 and then the full rebroadcast from 2009. I'm saying he should watch S1 in Broadcast order, then the S2 episodes in the order they were originally shown.

Running S1 back to back with the 2009 rebroadcast would be too much for most fans of Haruhi anyway, let alone someone new.
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>>122625769
>And last is Sigh
After Sigh come the three best episodes.
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>>122625636
No murder mysteries in the anime, No Tsuruya treasure map, No winter mystery math problems,

Anime is garbage moeshit. But hey, at least it has poorly animated Haruhi singing.
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>>122625867
I'll admit that someone paying close enough attention might get a little whiplash jumping between season 1 and season 2 quality, but most episodes are in blocks of the same season so it isn't nearly as noticeable, and it's certainly not a reason to not do it.

>>122625935
Nigga have you seen the illustrations for the light novel? It would have ended up "moeshit" no matter who, when, or how it was adapted if they wanted it to be authentic to the source. I think you're just nitpicking that.
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>>122625878
Oh shit, you're right I really fucked up.

>>122625935
The anime is the first 4 books excluding snow mountain syndrome. Did you just hate them or something? Why did you read through 4 books that you hated and thought were moeshit?
I'm confused by your reasoning.
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>>122625935
>No murder mysteries
>implying

>No winter mystery math problems
>No Tsuruya treasure map
Well no shit, this part of the story hasn't been adapted yet.
Anime would probably improve Snowy Mountain Syndrome by giving it spooky musics and visuals.
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>>122625935

>moeshit

Do people really use this word seriously? Am I on r/anime.
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I wasn't into anime back then. How did Haruhi change anime? I hear people say it was amazing back then but is now just a typical show. How so?
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>>122625867
I see where you're coming from, but season 2 was never meant to really be watched like that so it might not work out nearly as well as it does with season 1.

I don't see anything to gain by doing it that way. I don't know of any torrents that actually have it numbered like that anyway, so unless I just missed them all (I probably did) then it'd just be a pain in the ass for someone to reorganize them.
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>>122626083
>>122626079
>>122626021
All I'm saying is the LN is way better, and OP should read the LN and watch Lucky Star instead of wasting his time with the dumbed down moeshit-Haruhi.

>>122626119
Look, I love moeshit. Just not when KyoAni turns something compelling into mindless moeshit. Mikuru is canonically the only moeblob character, yet the anime turns everyone into shit.
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>>122626322
I love the LN but spouting 'moeshit' isn't valid criticism. The anime is pretty much a 1:1 adaptation, what else did you want?
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>>122626280
Yeah, I dunno, I watched it all in that order with /a/ back when they both originally aired. It wouldn't be too hard to look up the order you need to play them in to play them in broadcast order. I can see people who don't care to put any effort or thought into the show not bothering with that and watching it in chronological order then watching disappearance for some closure though.

It just feels weird watching something out of broadcast order IMO.
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>>122626322
>LN is way better
This is one case where I will disagree that the original was better. The anime has LITERALLY everything that the LN has where the stories overlap. I learned NOTHING from the LNs at all untill I got to parts that simply were not in the anime. in fact, I'd recommend people skip the first four LNs completely as reading them is a waste of time. Start with Rampage, the 5th LN, at chapter 3\, Snowy Mountain Syndrome.
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>>122626430
Personally I wanted them to have not made a 1:1 adaptation of Endless Eight for obvious reasons.
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>>122626322
I think your problem is that you think "compelling" and "moeshit" are mutually exclusive or something.

Yes, the character designs are pretty damn cute. Let's be real though. What is the alternative? Not adapting it? Shit, it'd be even more moeshit if they straight up 1-to-1 adapted Noizi Ito's illustrations as seen here. >>122625769

I just don't really get your beef. The only thing the anime changed was adding denwa-chan to the island and having them not get shitfaced off of wine. The novels even have Kyon point out how fucking cute Nagato and Haruhi are, not to mention Asahina. Did you want them to be animated ugly? Are... are you from tumblr? Am I being le ebin trolled?

>>122626462
>It just feels weird watching something out of broadcast order IMO.

No problem. Watch it in 2009 broadcast order and everything will be fine.
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>>122626503
If you appreciate Kyon as a character they are a lot of fun to read. Kyon's a fun narrator.
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>>122626521
Here's your reply.
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>>122626521
Actually it's the opposite. They did a 8:1 adaptation of Endless Eight.

>>122626503
They're fun to read if you want to get into the story again but otherwise you can simply begin with Snowy Mountain Syndrome.
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>>122626574
He narrates the anime just fine. About the only thing I got out of the LNs was pic related, and it was in the anime, I just didn't notice.
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>>122626614
>They did a 8:1 adaptation of Endless Eight.
Oh god they did. It's way more depressing/hilarious to think of it that way.
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So I just finished watching The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya and I'm left feeling empty with some questions.

1. Why did Yuki do what she did?
2. Was it implying that Yuki as an alien liked Kyon but was unable to show it?
3. This wasn't a real ending, right? I should probably go pick up the LNs if I want more?
4. So is the new anime a SoL in the alternate universe of the movie?
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>>122626678
>>1. Why did Yuki do what she did?
For Kyon
>2. Was it implying that Yuki as an alien liked Kyon but was unable to show it?
Sorta
>4. So is the new anime a SoL in the alternate universe of the movie?
No. It's just a strait Alt universe as I recall. It's based off a manga not the LNs.
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>>122626614
>They did a 8:1 adaptation of Endless Eight.
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>>122626678
>1. Why did Yuki do what she did?
AI YO
>2. Was it implying that Yuki as an alien liked Kyon but was unable to show it?
Basically. It's also implied that 6 fucking centuries of the dumbest shit while not being allowed to do anything about it would even break down an emotionless robot.
>3. This wasn't a real ending, right? I should probably go pick up the LNs if I want more?
Nope. Just another story, just animated extremely well. Novels pick right back up with the hotpot party and Kyon and Haruhi playing twister at Nagato's apartment
>4. So is the new anime a SoL in the alternate universe of the movie?
Sort of. It's a what-if situation. What if the alternate universe was always the original? It's not like a "Kyon didn't hit the button now here's his wacky new life"
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>>122626678
1. Too much bullshit to fix all the time and no one helping her. Having to synchronize with her future self all the time (thus knowing everything in advance). Also, Endless Eight.
2. We don't know. I think their relationship is more family-like. But yeah you definitely got a point when you say she's sometimes unable to show what she feels.
3.No. Yes.
4.It's not exactly the movie universe
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>>122626678
>>1. Why did Yuki do what she did?
Watch it again. Kyon goes over this. SHe was tired of Haruhi's bullshit, tired of reliving the same summer over 15,000 times, tired of being a robot surrounded by people with emotions she could not understand.
>2. Was it implying that Yuki as an alien liked Kyon but was unable to show it?
Very strongly implied. #4 takes this idea and runs with it.
>3. This wasn't a real ending, right? I should probably go pick up the LNs if I want more?
Pretty much was the ending. There's a bit more in the LN, but not much. It's not really important to the story anyway.
>4. So is the new anime a SoL in the alternate universe of the movie?
Yes. And in this universe, Nagato and Kyon are stupid for each other.
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>>122626827
Kyon and Haruhi playing twister at Nagato's apartment

When did that happen already?
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>>122626644
Oh I'm not doubting it but I just appreciate reading the books just as much, if not more than the anime. I guess it helps me connect to Kyon a bit more with him in the book. I have a good deal of the books, just don't have the discretionary income anymore to complete the set. I remember getting the Rampage of Haruhi Suzumiya a week before it released.
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>>122616406
If I was the director, I would have stuck a scene of Haruhi violently masturbating to a picture of Kyon right smack in the middle of Endless Eight.
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>>122626886
I don't think that happened.
I do remember them playing twister in Haruhi's bed, though :3
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>>122626886
Wasn't anything notable, and it might not have even happened when I think it did in the novels. I think it was for a new years party. It was just a few sentences of Kyon's narration that brought it up. Fun to think about though :^)
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>>122626941
:3
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Reminder that the Data Integration Entity is the real responsible of Disappearance's event for putting too much work on Yuki.
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>>122626978
>>122626941
>:3
Get the fuck out
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