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BIG O

BIG O BIG O BIG O
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FLASH

OOOOOOOOOOOOH
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>>122435957
JUST A MAN WITH A MAN'S COURAGE
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Where's qt Dorothy?
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>>122438489
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TOWA NI CHIKAOUUUUUUUUUUU
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>le- Im so edgy ill end my animes with shit endings - man

I liked katayama's idea of a serialized MotW show that doesn't really end
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>he watches the Big O in jap
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>>122438760
>He doesn't watch Big O in whatever language he wants and respects others tastes in sub or dub
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>>122438788
>he would rather read squiggles than engross himself into the action and emotion of the show
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>>122438953
>he can't do both
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>>122438594
I like it too, but there's nothing wrong with breaking away from the formula every now and then.
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>>122438760
>>122438788
>>122438953
>Americans
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>>122439058
I don't know Japanese and I don't have the energy or need to learn it.

That being said, I would watch my Russian doll cartoons dubbed because anime is intended for the viewer to actually WATCH what's going on. At least a decent anime.
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>>122438524
>>122438978
post more
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>>122439147
>this is what stupid Americans believe
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>>122439290
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>>122438594
>what could've been

http://www.paradigm-city.com/forums/attachments/attachment-6410.txt
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Would you a Dorothy, /a/?
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>>122439329
That's the last of the Dorothy webbims I got.
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>>122439425
Dorothy is a pure girl, faggot.
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>>122438524
>>122438978
>>122439426

saved. There's rarely any big o threads on /a/ so it's rare to see good webums of my waifu
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>>122438594
>This fucker
Felt like a punch in the guts when he hammed out that lain type ending.
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>>122439523
I'm going through the series and making as many WebMs as I can. Gonna have fun when I get to the Big Duo episode.
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>>122439425
Certainly. I don't have a waifu but dorothy is a top notch candidate.
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>>122439542
that was adult swim though. They were trying to get a season 3 yet that never happened because not enough DVD sales. So we got the objectively shit ending AND no season 3.
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>>122439635
My mistake then, season 2 really did feel like it went off the rails though. Of all the stuff I've watched this is one i wish was redone with the ending it deserved.
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>>122438524
>>122438978
>>122439329
>>122439426

>best girl never won because of this faggot >>122438594


Welp, time to off myself
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>>122438978
hey it's igor
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I'll never forget the sweet car Roger drives
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>>122439789
it was okay. It became 2meta4u by the end but it was great along the way. They should've extended the series for a few seasons before revealing all this false memories/city resetting crap
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Why is Roger/Dorothy the best OTP?
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>>122439892
When ever im rewatching I only bother with season 1 and a select few of season too. the 2meta4u shit really bugged me, to thats not what the anime was about.
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Friendly reminder that this guy was the greatest villain.
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>>122439991
Greatest joke, maybe.
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>>122434901
I like how everyone in the show has a sensible American name: Roger Smith, Dorothy Wayneright, Norman Burg, Alex and Gordon Rosewater, Dan Dastun.

None of that Sosuke Asuka Sohryu Langley Van Whitepiggutalian crap that most animes tend to use as "Western" names
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>>122440007
YOU MUST THINK
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJU9fG63a0
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>>122440027
S2 was pretty much funded by americunts btw.
>S3 never.
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>>122440027

Is that why Gabriel's such an enormous faggot?

>>122440007

Well shit, I need to watch this show again.
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They need a movie to end it, not a new series.
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>>122439991
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>>122439558
Could you do the scene when the missile launcher opens Dorothy's legs?
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>>122439892
>3deep5u
>WE ARE ALL TOMATOES

WOW.
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>>122440188
That could actually work out...
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>>122440214

>>122440269
Probably, once I get to that episode.
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>>122440188
like end of eva. Except they redo some scenes and add some new ones.

But toonami is a shadow of its former self and is only there to broadcast premier shows to get the ratings it needs. I really wish Turner the parent company would stop putting all their eggs into one basket and make the switch to streaming/online like Netflix.
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>>122440300
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>>122440027
>Sosuke Asuka Sohryu Langley Van Whitepiggutalian

I kekd.
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>>122440373
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>>122440269
> when the missile launcher opens Dorothy's legs?

What episode was this? I dont think I've ever noticed any blatant fanservice like that since the writers intended Dorothy to be qt without being sexual
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>>122440373
I can't help but see a not as good Lupin
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>>122440515
Pretty sure Lupin inspired Beck's design a fair bit.
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>>122440007
>villain
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>>122440007
schwarzwald did nothing wrong
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>>122440515
Thats the point though
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>>122440485
EP 19, when she's in the motorcycle with Norman, attacking the robot.
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>>122439948
it's a platonic love relationship at best
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Stock cartoon noises accompany Beck's robot whenever it moves. It's hilarious.
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Big O is my favorite mech design
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>>122440966
I'm more of a Big Duo kind of guy.
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>>122440966
They're more realistic in the sense that they arent fast but they're fucking powerful as fuck
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>>122441158
I love that about Big O, and that's what really separates it from most other mecha shows where the robots are slim and fast as hell.
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make a webm of the underground skeleton big
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>>122441547
Already did.
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>>122441597
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>season 3 never
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>>122440692
Eh. They didnt show her panties. And Im glad because Dorothy is a lady.
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>>122442032
It's a sad fact of life that we must accept.
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How in the hell could those arms support those giant forearms?
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>>122441597
I never got what exactly they were fighting in.

Like, its supposed to be some model of paradigm as part of some fair thing, but its WAY too fucking big to be of use at all....
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>>122442377
they were fighting on a scale city set for a monster movie
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>>122442377
Maybe some proto-megadeus
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>>122442324
the pistons balance it I guess
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>>122442324
It's tomatoes, ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>122442032
Here is what season 3 would have been according to the show's makers.

Angel rests the world, in this universe she is Rodger's assistant, and she made Dorthy human so they could fall in WUV.
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>>122442500
Shit, that actually makes me glad we didn't get season 3.
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>>122442556
http://seventhstyle.com/2013/05/20/the-big-os-big-finale-that-never-happened/

Heres an article about it with what the ORIGINAL ending for seasons 2 was going to be
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>>122439558
that shit was sad
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I wish the ending wasn't shit
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>>122443279
Personally, my biggest gripe with Big O is the art style change. Season 1 is gritty as fuck, which suited the setting, while season 2 is all clean.
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>>122442556
Fuck you.
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>>122443074
Indeed. Pero/Roy never deserved what happened to him.
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>>122439425
I would marry and impregnate. I know it will be hard, as she is a machine but that is not and excuse to not try it
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Who's Roger Smith and why's he a louse?
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>>122445416
He's a man whose work is much needed in this city of amnesia.

>>122445398
I feel the same about Big Duo. Look at this sexy beast, goddamn.
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man this show was good, I wish it had an ending
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>>122439425
Only after courting her for at least a couple years, proposing under a clear moonlit night sky, kissing her passionately on our wedding day, and making vigorous love all night through the pain of my twisted spine from having carried her bridal style to our rose-pedaled bed.
Some women are for sloppy fucking. Dorothy is for loving, honoring, and cherishing.
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>>122445484
>That fucking laugh
Blackforest was the best villain.
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>>122445801
Best villain, best mech. It all works out.
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>>122445697
Would she feel pleasure?
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>>122445697
Dorothy is literally the perfect girl if you think about it
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Can someone post the first scene of episode 14 where Roger is talking about freedom, grasps the Big O controls and then Dorothy jumps next to him and grabs the left controller?
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>>122446380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdMQOkEm14
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>>122446215
Best fight in the series, in my opinion.
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where to watch both seasons english subbed with the jap seiyuu's?
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>>122446507
That fucking song is just beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvsHNN0inzs
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>>122446963
Big O had a fantastic and memorable OST.
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>>122446963
Indeed. Sahashi is a musical genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzkXyqVPpMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiMqZmNHU1I
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Did you guys ever buyfag?
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>>122447128
for the blu rays? Fuck no. I wish Sentai Filmworks can bring them here already because $300 is too much for me.

I'm interested in buying some Big figurines as well as Dorothy, Roger and Schwarzwald
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>>122447098
That exquisite noir feeling
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>>122447128
Yes, but not for Big O stuff. Way out of my price range.

>>122447165
To my knowledge, there's not a lot of good options for a Scwarzwald figure.
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>>122447128
>>122447165
I wish the Blurays would come down in price, and that Season 2 wasn't so damn fucking expensive.
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>>122447269
Is that your pic related? Because I'm fucking jelly as fuck right now. I imagine that must've been $500 at least
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>>122447248
*Schwarzwald
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>>122447335
Yeah, all my stuff. The figmas were in the $80 range each, Season 1 $80, Season 2 was $20 way back when, and the manga was a lucky find at a shitty comic store up in NH at $13 a pop. The Steve Blum autograph was $20 at Anime USA last year. Need to Big O itself to fill the hole no Season 3 left.
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>>122447475
>The figmas were in the $80 range each,

Jesus. Did you buy them off Amazon or something?
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>>122447514
That's how much they go for. Being a /buy/fag is expensive.
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>>122447514
Yeah, imported from Japan. $80 for an old anime is a steal.
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>>122447475
season 3 might be possible if Turner/CN become generous and the fans become more vocal but it's been 12 years since season 2 and I imagined some of the voice actors aren't around anymore.

I would love a reboot of the series that follows what Katayama wanted originally.
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>>122447622
when was this interview?
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>>122447269 again.I was also able to get Steve Blum to do an alarm on my phone.
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>>122447917
Neat. What was the message?
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>>122447248
I could barely find 3 Schwarzwald's with one going for $200. Shit
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>>122447917
post your Steve Blum alarm
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>>122445697
who drew this?
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On to season 2.
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>>122447955
"Hey *Anon*, I believe a person, a human in particularly, has the right to sleep in. Unfortunately, an android believes otherwise. Showtime."
>>122448075
Going to work right now, don't have time.
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So what happened 40 years ago and why did everyone forget about it? Its been years since I have seen this series. Also how were people that were not alive then able to have memories of what happened 40 years ago?
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I miss Big O

What a simpler time that was. Go to school, watch Cartoon Network, download things off Kazaa.

Now everything looks like shit, taste like shit, and work feels like shit.
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>>122448333
Paradigm City resets because of Angel. Nothing existed before those 40 years in Paradigm City because that's when it resets/is reborn. The point of the show is that the characters slowly come to grasp about their own existence and roles. They're actors and yet they have freedom. The Big O is a show and not real life, hence the whole tv station and Angel Rosewater watching the events unfold
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>>122448486

And by what mechanism does the show "reset"?

Are they robots? Why dont they grow old?
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>>122448545
>And by what mechanism does the show "reset"?

Angel piloting Big Venus

>Are they robots? Why dont they grow old?

Aside from the actual robots, no. They don't grow old because reality keeps being reset.
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>>122448545
It's a show. The "director" Angel Rosewater resets what happens whenever the events of Paradigm City unfold in a way that she doesn't want (such as Roger falling in love with Dorothy and rejecting her)

The Bigs are there because they're there. The memories of the show are snippets from the past Paradigms
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>>122448580
So it's magic.
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>>122448680
It's tomatoes.
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>>122448680
TOMATOES
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>>122449239
>>122449451
is this an actual comic? I thought they only released a manga?

Would be cool if they released a comic to go in conjunction with the manga
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>>122449493
>is this an actual comic?

Probably not.
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CAST IN THE NAME OF GOD
YE NOT GUILTY
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>>122449451
>I intuited

>And I could't help praying
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>>122449590
Feel like this can become a new maymay.
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>>122449810
keep postan.
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I hate this guy. If I made a list of flaws in Big O, this fucker would be right at the top.

>>122449883
I'm not stopping anytime soon.
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>>122443776
he fucking died
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>>122449928
he's a shittier version of the Joker
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Did alex get schwarzwald killed?
Did he just wander off into the desert until he died?
what did i miss?
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What's better, the Max Factory Big O or the SoC one?
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>>122440027
>not wanting to be named Fountainstand or Westvillage
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>>122440166
>carjew network will never fund a season 3
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>didnt notice the artstyle shift when i watched the show
>read this thread
Oh man its totally fucking ruined to me
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>>122450883
blame the japs for not liking the show. CN/AS had to step in to fund it.

There's some instances where you can tell that American animators worked on it like in this once scene in s2 where two news reporters who look like disney characters take a picture of someone
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>>122450920
>where two news reporters who look like disney characters

...yes, "Disney".
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>>122450883
How the hell didn't you notice it before?
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>>122447269
I've got the season one collection but for whatever reason I never bought season two. I guess you think you'll always be able to get your hands on something like that, but reality isn't as nice.
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>>122451302
maybe im stupid
maybe i took a big pause between seasons
probably im stupid
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>>122450883
Sound design too. Not sure why, but a lot of awesome iconic sounds changed like the head laser and piston sounds.
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>>122447790
From this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51efiPMmg5Q

I saw that image a few years back and it explained so much about why Season 2 was so different from the first.
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>>122449607
Here's some more for you.
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>>122451689
I think the newspaper is trying to tell us something.
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>>122451735
>with the feel
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>>122451689
>what the fuck am i reading
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>>122451689
>the elusive promise of youth

Deep
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>>122451735
How are you getting clear screenshots of this? The show is like 10 years old when everything was broadcast in 480p SD
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>>122451998
Tomato magic.
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my favorite anime
thanks for the weebms
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>>122452082
No problem.
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>>122451998
Blu ray rip probably
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>>122450809
Feel with me, goyim ;_;
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Last one from me, it's 2 AM here in Bugerland and my eyes are watering.

Thread's been nice.
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>>122452671
You did good anon.
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>>122452328
Aren't the BDs criminally overpriced?
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>>122452671
Thanks for the great webums anon-san.
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>>122451735
They could've just copy pasted english articles... damn japs...
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>>122452789
$300 for standard and $700 for collectors.

Sentai needs to release them in the U.S because that's just too much
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>>122438594
Fuck that guy. What were they thinking in making him the head writer?
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>>122439058
Considering that cartoon network funded season 2 and the anime was popular with American/Western audiences, yes >Americans indeed. Now watch the Big O in English, faggot.
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>>122440027
Wayneright is such a sexy sounding last name. Sounds prestigious as well.
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>>122451689
>that blatantly horrible photoshop insertion of "paradigm" with the new york times

It's the little things
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>>122451689
>David Becham
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>>122452373
>"He swung the fist!"
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So should I actually watch this show in english or is that just what a bunch of newfag retards say.
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>>122454503
The dub is fucking amazing. The original is okay.
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>>122454503
your post is what a retard newfag would say
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>>122454503
>How to spot a newfag: The post
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>>122454551
>>122454609
Jokes on you, I've been here since 2006
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>>122451689
>david beckham in the sports section

ayyy
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>>122454503
The dub is much better than the japs. The second season of the anime was funded by CN, an Americna company so it's pretty much an American anime. Plus, Dorothy's voice actor is much better and captures the android-equeness of Dorothy. Stop acting like a weab and watch it in English.
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>>122454688
If you've really been here since 2006 and you're asking if you should watch Big O in English, I think the only one the joke is on is you.
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>>122454748
*American
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>>122438524
>>122438978
Twas great.

>>122438594
The show must go on.

>>122438760
Do you even DOROSHI?

>>122439991
Almost >>122440007
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>>122443633
Very much this. Still way better than nothing. Sunrise wouldn't put more money in it.
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>>122443633
>S1: animated by hand, filmed on actual film
>S2: digitally animated, digitally composited
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>>122455581
I still think S2 biggest issue are the insipid backgrounds.
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>>122455613
They're not all terrible, but they're definitely far from the lovingly hand painted backgrounds of S1.
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>>122455752
Unlike S1, they just are no good at conveying the atmosphere in an efficient and engaging way.
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>>122453238
How is collector next to standard?
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>>122455779
I think a big part of the problem with the backgrounds is how often they used a soft focus for them when it was completely unnecessary.
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>>122455831
Yeah, in the end it still si ridiculously better than nothing.
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>>122455907
BIG time.
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>>122455989
4 U

U
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>>122447622
"reveal the mystery" all we got was an even bigger more confusing mystery
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Has anyone ever noticed how much this looks like Beck?
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>Big O thread with 200+ posts
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>>122456099
The mystery is that it's all fake.
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>>122456294
>43 posters
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>>122434901
GUN BUTSAH
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>>122456406
Eh. That's like 5 posts per person. That's not bad. That just means we love the show and are dedicated to our own threads unlike fairweather fags
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>>122456431
Probably only 3 or 4 posters who keep resetting their IPs to stop from autosaging.
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>>122456474
>wastes of air like you exist
>>>/b/
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I like how there's just the right amount of action, psychological analysis and development for the characters. I think it's better than Eva in that sense since Eva tries to be 2deep4u and pretentious with the excessive "hurr wat it men to b human" crap
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>>122456507
I KNEW IT
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>>122438788

But Dorothy's voice in jap completely destroys her character. She's just a sextoy with a loli voice in jap.
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>>122456474
gtfo

get the fau out
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Where's the guy that said he was gonna post his Steve Blum Roger Smith alarm?
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>>122456330
katayama never revealed the mystery though.
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>>122456540
Big O is better than Eva, because it's not ignorant enough to tackle mutiple philosophical questions that are far beyond it.
Big O's got its nice ideas and generally sticks with them.

Big O didn't have the right amount of action.
Big O had too much action.
THAT is one of its biggest flaw.
Big O should have shown up every 2-3 episodes but have longer fights rather than all these little ones every episode.
Every episode had to tie its plot to robot fights, character development and the expansion of the world.
With Big O's very out there plot, eccentric characters and mysterious world, it's too much all in one episode.
Would have been better if there were episodes that concentrated on each one individually, I think.

But I don't think I know how to fix Big O
I just know it needs fixing.
There's one of the best series ever in there some where.
Too bad it was mishandled by essentially everyone.
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>>122456721
I think it could've have more innovative action, which it did at times - like the one ep. where Roger faces the apparition/ghost and comes up with an idea to beat it. The show could've stayed as a VotW while slow progressing to the big finale since then it would've allowed more time for Roger and Dorothy to develop their relationship.
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I've yet to watch an anime that has managed to surpass Big O's setting and OST.

Seriously goddamn everything about the setting I love. And that fucking underground area holy shit.

Schwarzwald was a fucking great antagonist as well.
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>>122456540
nge is a meme anime. /a/ watches it for waifus. Newfags new to /a/ are the ones who are impressed by Anno's pleb tier writing
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>>122456540
I never noticed how similar they are

>both 26 episodes (if you exclude EoE)

>both followed a MotW format

>both part of the mech genre

>both have memorable mechs (big O, unit-01)

Only differences I guess is that one (Eva) was more popular, had more characters while the other (big O) had western influences but was somehow more original with its setting, plot and characters
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>>122456641
he went to work a couple hours ago.
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>>122457397
Don't forget how the main girl cast consists of a stoic girl with short hair and multiple versions of herself, and a older woman with a troubled soul and scars.
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>>122457455
Ill wait for him
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So I listened to this
>>122446963

While watching the Big Duo vs Big O fight clips

>>122446730
>>122446538
>>122446215

In reverse order. Ended right as Big O punched Big Duo through several buildings.

Such a glorious feeling.
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>>122456565
Who let the idiots in?
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>>122457997
>implying he's wrong

Face it, Akiko Yajima got absolutely REAMED by Lia Sargent's performance
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>>122434901
>>122435957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4m-2G8VQvc
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>>122456718
THE MYSTERY WAS SORT OF REVEALED IN THE COMPANION ART BOOKS

THERE WAS A FUCK HUGE SET OF MACHINERY BENEATH THE CITY THAT BUILT A PARADIGM CITY LIKE A MANUFACTURING LINE

VENUS REPRESENTS THE CONSCIOUS ERASING OF MEMORIES

AFTER VENUS ERASED ALL THE MEMORIES, THE CITY WOULD BE DESTROYED

AND THEN ANOTHER CITY WOULD COME UP THROUGH THE GROUND

REPEAT UNTIL CLONED TOMATOES TASTE LIKE THE ORIGINAL

ULTIMATELY THE POINT OF THE SHOW IS THAT MEMORIES DON'T MATTER

ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE PRESENT AND THE TIME YOU HAVE THEN AND THERE

THE PAST IS IRRELEVANT

SOMETHING HAPPENED 40 YEARS AGO IT WAS PROBABLY BAD BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW

IT JUST HOLDS YOU BACK FROM CHASING THE FUTURE

thank you
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Big O is the only anime besides Bebop and Black Lagoon that I actively recommend the dub over the sub.

It's also the only anime with a "confusing" ending that I understood immediately and still don't understand how other people don't get it
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>>122458402
what's your take on it, buddy?
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>>122458420
The "war" is a set of falsely implanted memories. The Deuses and domes represent the previous society. The Deuses weren't supposed to be uncovered however which causes things to get out of hand. After things start going too far to shit; Venus reactivates to rewind the world back into its normative state like one giant scientific experiment.
I'm still not sure who the big puppetmaster is, but I suspect it was intended to be season 3's plot and is completely irrelevant currently
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>>122458402
Explain it then. All I know is that we were jewed out of the writer's ending that was cancelled for the possibility of a third season
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>>122458499
literally fanfic tier

you have no clue, aho
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>>122458420
Roger is Paradigm City
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Am I the only person that thinks that The Big O can be interpreted as you like, as long as you have sufficient evidence?

I feel like this whole one theory allowed theory is limiting.
Some theories are better than the creators theories.
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>>122458624
>Some theories are better than the creators theories

fanfic autists really are scum
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>>122458402
Cromartie was a lot better dubbed than subbed.
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>>122458673
I don't see fan fictions for Branded To Kill
I meant in general, in a film sense.
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>>122458624
The creators definitely had the mystery resolved. It's just us the fans who are clueless about it that are left to theories.
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>>122440007
What a marvelous insane faggot

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Ao8W19or9p
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Last episodes took too evangelion route to be enjoyable.
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>>122458402
Explain your interpretation.
I'm not trying to be hostile or anything, I just really like reading what other fans think.
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>>122459372
Let's be honest. The entire over arcing storyline was completely batshit insane crazy retarded. I watch it for the delicious English dub, the robots punching each other, and the pseudo future past noire.
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I don't know anything about the production of this series, but it seemed to me like they were shooting for a longer story and were suddenly informed they ain't getting any money so they just cramped whatever they had into one convoluted ideep-1you ending.
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>>122459279
Pablo Picasso - "It's a harlequin. If you think different you're wrong because I created it. It's a harlequin."
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>>122459603
Modern art theory says Picasso can suck a big one, if I see a giant purple tomato on his picture then that's what it is.
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>>122459554
That's almost exactly how it went. Season 1 was produced in Japan and ended in the middle of a battle. It wasn't popular in Japan, but it was popular with western audiences, especially the U.S so CN funded it for season 2. The show was popular on CN/Toonami and CN were going to make a season 3 so they asked the writers to not use the ending they had in mind and to use an ambiguous open-ended one to give them room for a season 3. But season 3 never happen because DVD sales weren't great and so CN gave up on producing season 3 and left it as is. That's why I hate people who defend the anime ending because it wasn't even the best choice out of the possible endings the writers/producers had in mind.

It also explains why everything becomes 2deep4u by season 2 since CN guys had some say in the production of season 2 and told them to reveal some if not most of the mystery behind the show - which I believe was a bad mistake since it progressed the story too fast.

In conclusion, I hope that CN/Adult Swim changes their mind and give us at least an OVA to finish off that shit ending we got since they own the rights to season 2 and could theoretically make an OVA or season 3. Or maybe a reboot of the series that goes by the vision of Katayama would be fine.
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So who was tomato?
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>>122459603
I have no problem with an artist defining his work. People can still interpret different meaning out of it.

I see the artist's/writer's input or explanation of their work as factual because they're the ones who created it in the first place.
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>>122459664
As long as you can back it up.
Then that's all that matters.
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>>122459664
>modern art theory

Well there's your problem
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>>122451378
Totally agree. I had the chance to get all of Season 2 on DVD back at a Newbury Comics in the early 2000's, but passed since I didn't like that season as much. Now I'm kicking myself.
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Might just be willing to buy those stupidly overpriced blu rays once I get my tax refund
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>>122459727
> People can still interpret different meaning out of it.
>I see the artist's/writer's input or explanation of their work as factual because they're the ones who created it in the first place.
Fair enough.
I'm not saying my view is right or yours is wrong, because all that should matter is evidence and whether you can prove your claims.
But I'm going to continue arguing for no reason.

So a film, show, play, painting, whatever, is forever tied to the authors work?
Whatever they say goes?
I don't believe that.
An authors claims are evidence on the pile and nothing more.

I'm going to bring up the film, A Better Tomorrow 2 (very artistic, I know).
Tsui Hark (writer, producer) and John Woo (writer, director) both make this movie.
Hark pushes more drama.
Woo pushes more action.
The full movie is four hours long and it has to be cut down.
Both men make their own cuts and make radically different movies.
Both disliked each others film.
To compromise they give the footage to an independent editor and they make a film that goes halfway between both men.
Both men dislike this edit but it goes to theatres with both unhappy.
Who is the "creator" in that aspect?

Also, is Chiaki more creator than Katayama?
What if they have their own individual opinions and merely came to compromise?
Which one is then right?
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>>122460096
In that case, there's more room for interpretation but if they both come to a consensus to what their creation is about, then that's the de facto explanation
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>>122458279
We already know most of this. But some of it like the city coming up from the ground sounds kinda stupid
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>>122439558
pero ;_;
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>>122440007
A human being who has lost the ability to think becomes a creature who's life has no meaning
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>>122438594
he wrote digimon right?
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>>122457181
>schwarzwald

>antagonist

schwarzwald did nothing wrong. He was trying to wake up the sheep
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>>122443074
Dastun's episode was sadder.
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>>122444774
>He was with her at the end of the episode
Fucking Norman. You know Roger learned everything about being a pussy magnet from him.
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>>122457309
>this is what adult swim babies actually believe
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>>122460899
what does adult swim have to do with anything?
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Holy shit, the thread's still alive.
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>>122459664
>art theory

Spot the pleb
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>>122461042
It has to do with you having no taste.
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>>122454688
>blieve me guyz im an oldfag like u
then you should've known that the dub was better a long time ago. Fucking pleb
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>>122461113
I was reading the conversation. That's not me.

And they did show the rebuilds on adult swim so it's not like "adult swim babbies" hate evangelion. Everyone into anime has watched it
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>>122456413
It's chromebuster
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Not really much going on in this webm, but I made it to show one of my biggest peeves with season 2: random cuts to season 1 footage that just looks out of place now.

Couldn't they just re-animate the scenes?
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>>122461205
>Couldn't they just re-animate the scenes?

Would love this but CN don't want to put the money. Im not sure how much it would cost to remaster a show like DBZ kai for example.
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>>122461205
That's not much of an artshift. It's barely noticeable to me but unless you can see the cell drawings and the new animation, then maybe
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>>122461253
I know, it's less of the art itself, but more of the medium used to make it that's changed, and just doesn't match up to the original.
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>>122461072
why did he have to die ;_;
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>>122459327
>insane

He's the Big O's redpilled character
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>>122459327
I like it. With some training you can be a good voice actor
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>>122439426
I need to set this up for my lockscreen/wallpaper on my samcum. Halp
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>>122461413
I know nothing about that sort of thing, I'm afraid.
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>>122461413
>>/g/
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>>122458123
no wonder i though i heard flash gordon in the theme. I thought it was just me but i guess konaka and katayama knows what we like
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Any Robot Taisen Big O webum's?
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>>122456721
>too much action

I wish they could've added more Roger/Dorothy action like batman and robin.
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>>122461676
ask /m/
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SUOMI MAINITTU! TORILLA TAVATAAN!
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>green jacket
>red jacket

The Lupin is strong.
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>>122461894
what the fuck is the point of the leviathan?
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>>122462243
It's another archetype.
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>that episode with nips and transformers.

What a great show
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>>122462599
That's the episode I'm on right now, coincidentally.
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>>122462654
Nice. Post dem webums
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Sentai as fuck
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>>122462804
Aw man, I wish they could've given us more episodes like these

>s3 or reboot when?
>>
>>122451179
He even has a watch, nice
>>
>>122462419
>>122462599

>first season they make a big deal out of foreigners

>there's foreigners within the city

What the fuck. Do they ever explain this shit?
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Getting this to fit the filesize limit was a pain in the ass, I hope it didn't turn out too crappy.
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>>122463355
This is great, anon.
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>>122463459
Thanks, I'm surprised it didn't end up as a blurry mess.
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>>122463535
AMERICA WINS LOL
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>>122463249
the foreigners were french, those are not french
>>
Man that first season is some of the best anime out there

Man that second season is some of the worst anime out there
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>>122463610
I wouldn't say the worst, but it's definitely a little drop in quality compared to season 1.
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>>122440007
schwartzwald was so fucking right, the everything he said was so true and it seemed like so much bullshit

Schwartzwald>Beck>>>>Alan Gabriel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alex Rosewater
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>>122463849
>putting that shitty-ass excuse for a villain gabriel anywhere but the absolute bottom
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>>122463759
I would say one of the worst

The animation, the story, the logic all gets thrown out the window.

It went from amazing to shit.

I could also be salty because the first and last episode of season 2 are some of the worst anime I've ever seen.
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>>122464036
Alex Rosewater is worse because at least gabriel could do something cool

Both were fags, alex was worse
>>
>>122463602
They said foreigners period. It just doesn't make sense to treat French like exotic foreigners when you have japs with an entirely different culture living inside your city
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>>122446963
Stoning is probably one of the best songs in anime.

Man, can you imagine how hype it would be to make that?
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>>122464223
I think the point of big O is foreigners are all evil and they should all be killed
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>>122464113
I don't think you've seen much anime then
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>>122446963
>>122447098

Does Sahashi still make god-tier music like this? I only know his works from Big O and Gundam
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There we a bunch of crappy characters introduced in season 2, but O'Reilly wasn't one of them.
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>>122464113
I think you should rewatch it and pay extra attention. The ending is pretty shit, I'll give you that
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>>122440269
>>122440300
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>>122464699
l-lewd!!
>>
>>
>>122464306
Das rite mane. Kill dem chinks. We don want your kind around dese parts
>>
>>122464113
>I dont understand what Im watching

>lol its shit xD
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>>122451735
There's that filler text again.
>>
>>122464036
>>122464580
>>122464699

Based Dorothy
>>
>>122451179
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>>122463355
you got the transformation sequence entirely. that's enough for me
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>>122461277
>All work and no play makes Mike a dull boy
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>>122464699
I love Dorothy's expressions. She looks so calm and not giving a fuck
>>
>>122460899
there's nothing wrong with adult swim/toonami though.
>>
>>122438524
>>122438978
I wanna play the piano but never had the time or knowledge on how to practice
>>
>>122460360

And what about the foreign powers?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2QTwtkYwA
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have you ever been so foreign that your eyes were hexagons
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>>122465605
Can't say I have.
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>>122439426
>>122461444
>>122461483

I did it. Just downloaded Animegif LWP2 from the market place and turned the webm to gif. Now I can see Dorothy all the time!
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>>122464913
>dat fucking text
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>>122466161
Congratulations, now get to making her real
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>>122464414
He had a really good voice actor too
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>>122466313
Stop it anon ;_;
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>>122464699
Noice!
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>>122466313
Right in the feels.
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>>122466313
>i want to (ch)ange.jpg
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>>122466313
Ah shit...
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>>122456431
It was a good thread. Nice discussion, nice webms. Everything went smooth
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>>122465370
What foreign powers?
>>
>>122466385
>>122466519
>>122466600
>>122466687
Technology grows more advanced every day. Soon everyone will have their own Dorothy.
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>>122466955
Magic singing
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>>122467064
Tomato singing
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>>122466313
pls no
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>>122438760
>>122438788

the few instances where the American dub is vastly superior to the original and if you argue this you're a fag.
>>
The BD has been out for ages, why are you Webming the DVD?
>>
>>122467325
Post some scenes then. I can't since I'm on shitty college wifi
>>
>>122466981
But then Dorothy wouldn't be special
>>
>>122467589
It doesn't matter as long as she's special to you.
>>
>>122466313
>>
>>122467806
It wasn't a burn, it was encouragement.
>>
>>122463183
never ;_;
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>>122468097
What a shame. >>122468097
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>>122466234
Do you feel which does a grounder grounder?
>>
>>122447622
>>122447622
Fuuuck man this is what I wanted
>>
The animators forgot how to draw in s2, everythings off model in s2 except for that one episode where dorothys the negotiator
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>>122469831
Those were CN animators for s2
>>
>>122466313
Working on it, have it done by the time we're all dead.
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