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Has Type-Moon lost its charm over the years?

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Has Type-Moon lost its charm over the years?
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>>122396346
Now post the one where everyone has Saber's face.
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what charm?
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I think Fate/Extra CCC is the most charming thing they've done yet.
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>>122396346

Is the Saiba a prom queen...king?
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>>122399214

She's the King of Waifus.
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>>122399214

Notice anon how the large the dress is, it's to hide the bulging vulva, or horse dick...or something.
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what happens if unlimited seibah works comes into battle with the nekoarc dimension?
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>>122396346
>blue dress Aoko

Holy shit my dick. Every time.
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>>122396346
I want to tit fuck Aoko's Aokos.
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>>122396469
Strange part is that it really is, but if you were looking at it without understanding shit it would feel like some strange fan-service or absurdity.

Nasu calls it another Ataraxia in a sense, he had an odd combination of the plot really having some solid parts here, and some parts just being him fucking around or seeing what he can get by with doing.
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>>122399704

Her vulva inverts creating a black hole that turns those variants of the Nasuverse into Prisma Illya.
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Aoko makes everyone's dick diamonds
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>implying it had charm in the first place
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>>122400168
>implying sweater puppies are not eternal
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Ryougi because she would do anal and be tsun about it.
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no youve just gotten older
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>>122401292
>youve
While you, apparently, haven't
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>>122401348
>Bad grammar means you literally stop aging
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>>122401422
Maybe mentally
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>>122396346
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>>122401562
Secondar girls poster really looks like shit. Like they're still children mentally or something.
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>>122396346
They were always shitty
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>>122396469
I really want to play a Fate game, but I heard that Sakura loves someone in there that isn't Shirou. . . I just can't. Sakura and Shirou are my OTP. I can't imagine otherwise.
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>>122401855
>OTP
>she has an entire route dedicated to her winning
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>>122396346
the charm of type moon is beautiful/sexy drawn girls from high class
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>>122402134
My point is I can't see Sakura with another man, which apparently the game is about.
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>>122401855
>but I heard that Sakura loves someone in there that isn't Shirou. . . I just can't.

Right, I've also heard that Arthur appears in that game, and loves someone other than Shirou as well. Except she's pretending to be a Roman general for some reason, but clearly it's Arthur, and that destroys my OTP.

Blossom =/= Sakura
BB =/= Sakura

Blossom even says at the beginning of the contest that her name is randomly chosen among the contestants, and just by chance it happened to pick "Shinji" as the one to base her name on. Coincidences like this are meant to bullshit F/SN fans who come into Extra thinking "It must be this...", when in reality they're entirely different people.

Shinji isn't even Shinji either.

Blossom is an AI on a Moon computer older than time that develops a soul one day, and her entire story is about learning what it means to be human and shit. She's not Matou anything.
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>>122396346
>Aoko
>brunette
It still hurts.
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It's like the more you know about Fate the more Extra tries to fuck with you at first with misdirection.
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>>122402349
Is the MC/FeMC just a self insert character?
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>>122396346
I think that picture is the best thing TM has produced.
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Can't really tell if it's Nasu losing his touch or just the constant Fate milking
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Shinji in Extra is a Chinese Hacker gamer, and he's actually likable.

>Shinji :: Man you really are an otaku! Don’t worry, with that much sass you can make it anywhere! No one expects anything from you, so it’s fine no matter how much you fail! I’m way jealous!

>Jinako :: Gh…I’ve been terribly insulted. Geniuses are just so cruel. It’s fine no matter how much you fail? Words like that do nothing to lighten the bitterness and envy of common folk who can’t ever succeed.

>Shinji :: Yeah, yeah, whatever hater. God…I can’t believe someone like this was my greatest rival in the gaming world. The web really is a rotten way of communicating. It makes boring people become entertaining and fun people become boring. The worst part is that you can’t even tell which type your are yourself anymore.

Jinako :: Shinji…?

>Shinji :: I know. At least that people hate me on PJ. But if you don’t make a persona like you’ll just be boring and people will ignore you. No matter how good your records are. My parents were ruined nobility, see. They bought superior genetic material from the Western European plutocrats and designed me. After that I was given a room and just had self-study everyday. What mom and dad wanted wasn’t a son, it was a superior successor. It’s fine though. I can appreciate the irony. I mean, that’s all I have to be proud of. Superiority. Setting records. To teach a lesson to those morons whose faces I don’t even know. I wanted to set records, see. Records no one would ever beat. As proof that I was there. Now things have come to this I finally realized, but that was my wish. So — I wanted to participate in the Holy Grail War, and if I could win it, then I wouldn’t have needed anything more. Even without the “Grail” prize, all I wanted was to leave a record saying “I was here.” Even if it’s the web, where everything is vague, people don’t connect, and things disappear quickly, the name of the winner of the Holy Grail War would persist as long as the internet itself.
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>>122402443
Yes.
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I'm worrying about Type-Moon...
I know that many newfags didn't even read VNs / Light Novel F/Z and just watched shitty animu by Deen, Ufotable and JC Staff.
And now even more retards will play in shitty April Fools' game, Fate/Extra and even worse CCC, watch Fate/Zero and Carnival Phantasm without even reading VNs/LNs and pretend to be TM-fags after that, make tons of shitty threads about characters and power levels.
They will not be even familiar with the original art-style and will think that this shitty K-on CP is "okay", Morii-san's art is not pure shit, RCO Wada is nice and F/Z is soo kewl stylish and grim dark, also Fate/Extra is acceptable by any means with all this "wH0 iZ mai WAiFUUUU" & UmUshit whore of babbylon crap.
Type-Moon is not supposed to be this popular, get the fuck out you narutards.

And now you can CLEARLY see all these "typemoonfags" of 2010-2013. Fucking horrible. You're not TYPE-MOON fans, but NEO-NARUTO-MOON fans.

I ordered Mahoyo and finished that shit VN in this year (2011 late release) while you are still sucking dicks for at least 5 years or so without the translation, fucking plebeians and casuals. But even Mahoyo was a PIECE of SHIT and BOMBED really hard.
And what is more hilarious - Type-SHIT is pretending like it never happened and preferred to completely FORGOT about their new VN by making another absolutely IDIOTIC fate/shit such as EXTRA/SHIT and APOCRYSHIT.

And now Type-Moon decided to resurrect this shit Fate/Apocrypha like it wasn't enough to make Fate/Milking Sabers shit, their outbursting impotence and rectal dysfunction is taking them way far away from something actually new and original, you may suggest that Mahoyo is new but you'll be terribly wrong because the sequence of Mahoyo was made in 1996(!) year and the only "new" thing will be Girl's work but I'm not sure even about this, there's no guarantee that they didn't pull this shit out of someone's old ass again.
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>>122401656
How? They seem to be done by a different illustrator though, probably Koyoma
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>>122402513
Fuck, I'm probably still going to pay extra but, things like that turn me off.
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>>122402443
He shows more personality in CCC, but he's still kind of the "Normal one" at times.

Despite his existence being one of the strangest ones out of the protagonists. He's kind of like Naegi in Danganronpa; his main value is hard work and not giving up, the normal one among absurdities, but manages to score some hits by moving forward.
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>>122402299
Sakura doesn't love anyone in Extra, it's not the same Sakura to begin with.

Play the game.
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>>122402574
You're the one who went with the first response you got like it's fact. If you ask how any Fate series is, the first response you get will probably be "It's shit", because it's something fast to type and doesn't require much thought.

Play through and make up your mind.
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>>122402627
>I'm probably still going to pay extra
I meant play
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>>122402711
Do both
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>>122402586
>>122402349
Is there any difference between the EN and JP versions?
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>>122396346
No, and I hate that.

I can't get over this franchise, it absorbs you and WON'T LET YOU GO.

Now I'm enjoying every second of all the content they give us.

And everything began with a Recommended Video on youtube back in 2008... I love you TM.
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>>122402739
Not as far as I can recall.
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Aoko is just begging to get fucked.
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>>122402586
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>>122403062
Koyoma needs to work on his hands
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>>122403062
>still no translation
Time to learn Japanese since apparently no one wants to translate a recent true Nasu VN for some reason.
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>>122403062
Doesn't Soujuurou fuck her?
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>>122396346
Type-Moon was lost when they became enamored with MOAR FATE, ALL THE FATE. Carnival Phantasm was a kick in the crotch to anyone that likes Tsukihime. The fixation with Zero was the most painful nail. Apocrypha was when I really knew we were done. At least Extra had the excuse of being a video game, so you could ignore all the horseshit hand waving.
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>>122403155
There's a lot of shit that isn't getting translated at this point.

I've heard Mahoyo was fully translated, but the proofreader decided to sit on the project or something.

Translators are pretty much the one thing we don't have in this franchise lately.
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>>122402371
thanks, doc
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>>122403098
>Koyoma
How can you tell the difference between him and Takeuchi?

Who drew this? Who do you think is better?
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>>122403062
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>>122403062
Why is she so perfect?
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>>122403346
>How can you tell the difference between him and Takeuchi?
What? you can't? That's obviously Takeuchi.
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>>122403343
I assume you're referring to this
http://pastebin.com/0NUtQgcs

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>>122402538
No thread like this is complete without the dose of pasta
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>>122396346
When they stopped producing actual new content. Seriously, I'd pay quite a bit for a 100% new Nasu VN the size of FSN.
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>>122403488
Would fuck for days.
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>>122396346
it had charm?
I forced myself through their works. The fanbase and its critics don't help either.
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>>122403621
Why would you force yourself to go through it if you didn't even like it?
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>>122396346
It's interesting to ask how much Type Moon's popularity has derived from Nasu's writing as opposed to Takeuchi's character design.

Similarly, Takeuchi is a pretty crap artist, as we see as soon as he tries to draw an animal or... anatomy, but none of that matters really if his designs have a certain intoxicating charm. People have pointed out that his designs all resemble each-other, but I think that's the point, the Takeuchi style levels everything, offers a cohesive language for describing characters in set, rigid parameters, and Nasu's writing does similar thing with the Nasuverse; offering statistical or categorical evaluations of their power for instance. The precision this system allows a distinct authenticity that I think you might lose in a flashier, more stylized (and incidentally derivative) Nitro+ work, even if that company is able to create more compelling visuals with fewer corny moments. It's also worth noting that Nasu loves corny moments, and his ready exploitation of them I think helps keep him from drowning in his perhaps less intended ones.
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>>122396346
For every single typemoon fan, the best iteration is the one that introduced them to typemoon, the older ones aren't very interesting and the new material is invariably disappointing.

Now please explain me why the fuck people is still interested in this shit.
because the only legitimate reason I came up to in these years is "to talk about something on internet"
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>>122403836
Not true, I started with Zero but came to like FSN more
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>>122403690

Personally, I think it has more to do with the fact that Takeuchi's character designs are so unique, and not necessarily in a good sense. His designs are all instantly recognizable, and while they do level the playing field, I think it has more to with the fact that even the newest of newfags can instantly recognize a Takeuchi design more so than his leveling of designs.

His designs are very similar and simplistic though, that is for sure.
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>>122403866
Same here. I watched F/Z and ended up liking F/SN much more.

>tfw UBW for the first time
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>>122396346
Nasu got lazy and blinded by money.
If you took Nasu out of TM, you'd probably get some nice material.
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>>122403836
But that's bullshit
I like Tsukihime and Meltan when it had a story mode as much as KnK, as much as FSN, as much as F/Z, and I look forward to seeing newer stuff being translated and developed

Not everyone is a sociopathic elitist who can't enjoy a 7/10 story once he's exposed to an 8/10 or higher
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>>122403968
But Nasu is the only one trying to do not Fate things. He put out Mahoyo and is still working on Tsukhiime.

What do you have when you don't factor him in? Prisma, Apocrypha, Strange Fake, Case Files. It's all Fate stuff. I'm not criticizing those stories, but don't act like he's holding back the company.
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>>122396346
People really have to just accept that the majority of people attracted to his universe are drawn by Fate and then branch out to other parts.

Which is why everyone wants their hand in the Fate pot, because my goodness, they enjoyed the story and want their mark on it.
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>>122404145
>Nasu is the only one trying to do not Fate things
I'm pretty sure his the one who actually enables all the Fate spinoffs. Stop sucking up.
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>>122403968
People always bitching

80% of the TM stuff that's came out recently had nothing to do with nasu, and he didn't write any of it. You got exactly what you wanted long ago, and are still saying "It sucks now and I hate it".

Fate/Strange, Fate/Prototype, Fate/Apoc, Prism Ilya, etc etc

Those aren't things he wrote at all, those are things people approached him on saying "Can I write this" and he goes "Whatever".

>"But I hate Fate stuff, I meant I want TM without the Fate stuff which is shit"

This is what TM is without Nasu, people want to keep writing Fate, even if he's not the one doing it. It's not Nasu that's doing it anymore, he simply created the beast. The beast has a mind of its own now.

Last thing he did was CCC, thing before that was Mahoyo, and at the moment he's working on Grand/Order and Tsuki in tandem. Read his diary to see how progress is that in going.

In before "Implying he's working on Tsuki"

That's why I told you to read his BBS diary, info on how he's working on it and to what ratio is in there.

TM fans are always the biggest bitches no matter what.
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>>122404235
So? Other people want to work on his franchises, so he lets them. They make money, he makes money, and fans get what they want. He still does his own stuff though. It's not like he's forcing Fate and Fate only.
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>>122403739
I want to massage her legs.
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>>122404258
If you want to assert a truth, first make sure it's not just an opinion that you desperately want to be true.
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>>122404259
Well he as fuck ain't working on Tsukihime or Mahoyo anymore so I don't know why you're supporting him.
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>>122404308
Gonna need a citation that he's not working on Tsukihime, cause I think you're pulling that out of your ass just cause you want to whine.
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>>122404325
No development or release news.
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>>122404235
>Stop sucking up
Nasu is a literary genius and deserves all praise he gets.

>>122404308
He made F/SN so he gets my support for life as he should.
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>>122404291
>>122404308
とまあ、そうはいっても月姫もガシガシやってるからそこは大目に見てほしい。
らっきょも終わったし、具体的には週五月姫・週二Fateぐらいの割合。ホントだって。
……ホロウの収録とかEXTRAまわりとかあるけど、そこはそれ、一週間を九日ぐらいに増やせればなんとか ……なる……さ……

There, that's part from a recent diary exert about Tsukihime. Yet you'll still bitch "Shut up, it's a lie, that hack has already long abandoned us true fans. You're just in denial, liar".
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http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/index.html#17

Here's even Nasu's online diary thing

Read through it
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Favorite routes in each type moon vn?
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>>122404422
Tsukihime: Hisui
Fate: UBW
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>>122404388
>>122404420
Not Mahoyo, I'd rather not play Tsukihime for a third time.
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>>122404478
Nice goalpost moving.
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>>122404422
Tsukihime: Arcueid
Fate: HF
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>>122404422
Kohaku's
Heaven's Feel
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So are we never fucking gonna get a translated Mahoutsukai no Yoru, like really what the fuck. why is it taking so long to get this 5 hour long game translated. I mean its type moon too so what the fuck should this be more popular? What the fuck is happening to the tl scene? is everyone dying? are we going into the dark ages again like the 90s?
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>>122404422
Porkslope: Ciel for Near-side, Akiha for Far-side
Fate/Stay up all night: UBW
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Shiki barely had any characterization until the sequel. I wish he was a delinquent who didn't give a fuck with a murderous side from the get go instead of just being some guy.
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>>122396346
The high water mark was Kagetsu Tohya. It all went downhill starting with the lack of Ilya route in Fate. Now they can't even make anything original and half of what they do make is outsourced.
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>>122396346
I lost all of my hope for a Tsukihime remake ages ago. Type Moon is too busy milking the Fate cashcow, and everything seems to be servants and servants into servants fighting servants.

I just wanted a Sacchin route, and a remake of the sunflower field scene. And I'll never get them. Ever.
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>>122404628
Translation is dying, the one thing we lack is new translators and people who put effort into that side of the project.

Despite all the daily "learn Japanese" threads.

Maybe if it was a new anime it would be typeset, but otherwise probably not.
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>>122404628
>going into the dark ages
We are already there, anon.
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>>122403062
would berry it so deep i'd be crowned king arturia
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>>122396346
All the Fate bullshit over the last 10 years has really killed my hype for TM. They don't even try to branch out the universe anymore and instead rehash the Holy Grail War over and over.
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>>122404717
This is what I mean about Tsukihime fans being the bitchiest fans.

Can't even read up through the thread to see why this is ironic.
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>>122404709
Kagetsu Tohya was just not fun to play. Like, I enjoy the content you read in it, but its choice system was just too convoluted to make heads or tails of anything. You either went in blind and hope for the best, likely ending up missing content or getting lost, or rigorously following a guide, thus defeating the entire point of being so open ended.
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Why is hair color such a big deal for me? Is it justified?
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>>122404761
>would berry it so deep i'd be crowned king arturia
That's not how the joke goes mister.
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>>122404795
I got a perfect game in one try before the guide came out. You just have to be methodical.
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>>122404848
Of course there's always the one guy who didn't have any trouble. It was a flawed system.
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>>122404848
Well, two tries. Forgot I had one initial attempt at figuring it out and restarted. But otherwise I did fine.
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>>122404913
That chart just makes it way harder than it needs to be. KT and HA both had the same general rpg dungeon theory. You figure out the stairs going down are in the left passage so you go into the right passage and do everything there first.
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>>122404988
HA was much more intuitive. You avoid doing all the ! events first, and work from there, and new scenes are marked. You can genuinely miss content in KT.
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Nasu hates the entirety of Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai. Don't you get that? They are his embarrassments. His little half-made children he reluctantly let go into the world, whose legs were uneven, their hair a mess, and clothes wrinkled. They were him before he was killer.

Do you get it son? Are you pickin' up what I'm layin' down?
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>>122404988
Is that why I didnt get any pool scenes or non Caren H scenes on HA?
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I'd pump her so full of mana that she'd become a Holy Grail
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>>122405080
We could spit-roast her.
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>>122405042
You can miss it yes, and I could see someone needing help on a cg or two. But it's still the same basic theory. Also you're overlooking the key factor of why it was the high water mark: You can H the cat but not Ilya. Type Moon has become a bunch of pansies and all you get now is Gilgamesh's naked body.
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>>122404422
Hisui and HF.
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>>122396346
As far as random spin-offs go, Prisma Illya is good. As far as Type-Moon material, it's a hell of a lot better than 90% of Carnival Phantasm. And it's not a huge wankfest like fate/zero is.

It has the added benefit of Ruby and Sapphire being Naoko Takano and Miyu Matsuki, which makes it psycho genki as fuck, measured with cooling loveliness.

My main displeasure is that the anime isn't as good as the manga, but that's largely due to nothing topping how I viewed what was happening in the manga in comparison to the anime. Voices make up for it.
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I loved Tsukihime(VN) and FSN. KnK and Fate/Zero were pretty good. But now it is just spinoff after spinoff and remake after remake. I went from a huge fan to no longer having any interest in TM.
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>>122405163
>You can H the cat but not Ilya

Oh who fucking cares. Does anyone actually get off to TM H scenes? Doujins maybe, but I'm not fapping to Takeuchi's art, and I'm sure as hell not getting hard to half-assed translated sex dialog.

On a sheer technical level trying to work through KT wasn't enjoyable, despite having enjoyable scenes in it.
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>>122405163
>all you get now is Gilgamesh's naked body
And?
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Make it a foursome and I'll take her ass.
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>>Gilgamesh's naked body.
>Gilgamesh's belly-shirt in HA

That shit was hilarious. What was Takeuchi thinking when he drew that early concept for Gil?
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>>122405068
Probably. You kids and you're giant flowchart walkthroughs that just turn it into such a huge spiderweb of nonsense that would shock even ORT. Don't think, just feel.
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>>122405380
When did I say I used a walkthrough?
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>>122405283
You don't even understand why a cat is fine too. I am sorry for you.
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>>122405429
>Tsukihime - That's Why I Assault Ren (hiroyuki)

https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/240
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>>122405429
I understand plenty, but like, really? You like the sex scenes? The only reason I prefer them over the censored ones in Fate is because the scenes that replace them are stupid.
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>>122405278
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>>122405278
I was introduced to this series in 2011 and felt the same way. I only hang here now for ufotable.
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>>122405357
You should feel honored you got to gaze upon Gilgamesh's body.
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Anything new with Type-Moon?

Or is it the same rehashed shit?
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>>122405626
Grand Order is coming at some point. UBW BDs are in two weeks with about 5 episodes of new content.

First three episodes of UBW's second cour are being screened this weekend. One episode is possibly an hour long.
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Why do all Type-Moon characters, including the women, have gladiator shoulders?

Ever wonder why none of the girls look dainty? This is why.
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>>122405042
>mfw I locked myself out of the Len sex scene
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>>122405812
What are gladiator shoulders?
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>>122405812
>gladiator shoulders
What are those?
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>>122405812
In official art, Ryougi Shiki's kimono slims her down considerably,
and the way the shoulders of the wear slope from a slightly raised height near the neck to the actual shoulder makes her forward profile very 'dainty'.
Of course, the one scene we see her without that one she has boyish shoulders, befitting her personality and upbringing.
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I imagine there will always be Fate stuff on the go; just see Apocrypha for evidence of that.

However, for the most part, it will be outsourced to different writers/studios where Type/Moon provide an advisory role.

Nasu and Takeuchi have both stated that they want to focus on the Tsukihime remake and the Mahou Tsukai no Yoru sequels next (which will take around 10 years apparently).
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Someone shitpost, I'm bored.
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Is having Rider try on shirts the quickest way to tell if it's Rin or Sakura's
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>>122405316
Sure, buddy.
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>They wanted to do a new Melty Blood (tentatively Melty Blood HD) but they need to find a way to continue the story first. At the time, TYPE-MOON's Kinoko Nasu (author) was busy with Mahou Tsukai no Yoru, so the project is postponed.

I hope they're going to do it in the future.
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>>122406212
Zero Rider is the bet servant and character ever.
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Worst girls in their respective Type Moon games?
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>>122406389
You
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I don't know very much about type-moon things but, is Ryougi supposed to be female Tohno?
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I seriously hope that not all Type-Moon is like this

I want to watch Kara no Kyoukai but if it's full of shit like this no thanks
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>>122406809
>this
What is this?
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>>122406200
>asu and Takeuchi have both stated that they want to focus on the Tsukihime remake and the Mahou Tsukai no Yoru sequels
Source?
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> Takeuchi: Maybe it's because I'm always working on galgame, but I'm somewhat opposed to changing a female lead's outfit. I feel a character's clothe is also part of his or her design, which is why Arcueid from 「Tsukihime」 has been wearing the same outfit for the past 10 years (laughs).

> Ishii: This makes sense if you really think about it, (laughs) but I also can't really picture Arcueid wearing anything else.
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>>122406763
Kind of. Some characters and concepts from Kara no Kyoukai were carried off into Tsukihime, MEoDP and the name Shiki were some of these, but the two characters are very different in personalities.
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>>122406943
Why did they change her clothes then?
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I like Shiki. Both of them. Or 3 of them if you wanna split hairs. Or however many people you can technically count as being Shiki.
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>>122407025
There are 3, uniquely distinct Shikis. T. Shiki, R. Shiki, and SHIKI.

Going further there's also N. Shiki based off of T. Shiki who exists as a different entity in Melty Blood.

Counting alternate personalities there are 3 versions of R. Shiki.

So that's six, and I'm probably missing a few.
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>>122406319
I'm glad the lead artist for Mahoyo wasn't Takeuchi. Takeuchi's concept art made her look like Rin cosplaying.
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>>122407167
Isn't her personality similar to Rin, but leaning a tad more towards being a violent tsundere?
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>>122407167
These are Aoko and Alice Takeuchi version.
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I would like to stick my dick in Miss Blue.
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Mahoyo seems so charming. The music's great, the characters are great, the character designs are great.
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>>122408211
>character designs
>great
>shitty brunette
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>>122408211
It didn't sell too well though, right? From what I understand it was short, linear, and didn't have any voice acting.
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>>122408263
I really wouldn't know, but looking at it seems like the perfect prequel to Tsukihime. If anyone knows where to find an art book for this, that would be fantastic.
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>>122408263
>Typemoon game
>not selling well
I don't believe it.
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>>122408211
>no h-scenes

Dropped.
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>>122396346
This picture has a really nice and spooky atmosphere.
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>And, from next month’s Comptiq May issue release, “Fate/Labyrinth” a complete new work will be a concentrated serialisation. Whether it’ll be some kind of book in general, it’ll make me happy if you just look at it and check it out

>“Fate/Labyrinth” is (planned) for a concentrated serialisation over 3 months because it is a special volume with various meanings. How it is special, its………

I wonder what this will be about.
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>>122408399
Takeuchi is a god tier building artist.
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>>122408514
Where are you getting this?
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>“Fate/Labyrinth

MASTER
EVERYTHING I DO
I DO IT FOR YOU
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Hey do any of you guys have that new Pokemon game? I tried to acquire a copy of Pokemon Blue but they were all out so I was stuck with Pokemon Red.

I wonder who brought the last copy of Blue?
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>>122408581
BL.
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>>122404422
Tsukihime: Arcueid
Fate: UBW
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Why did Rin need to have a sex scene in every route.
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>>122408689
Cause she's a best.
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>>122408689
You give the best girl the most exposure, generally.
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>>122408722
slut*
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>>122408689
Deuteragonist privileges.
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>>122408763
Rin is a goodhearted pure young lady.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU-27H4XNAc

If this is the future of TM VNs then I'm hyped. It's high quality, no wonder Tsukihime is taking so long.
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>>122408805
Soujuurou vs Lugh is seriously the straightest fucking life correction Type Moon has ever dealt out.

Soujuurou just doesn't give a fuck and makes Lugh his bitch.
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>>122408858
I-I want to project onto him.
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>>122408858
Is he a good written character? Don't know Japanese yet so I can't play.
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>>122408962
Because he's such a blank slate to project on to with his only real notable qualities aside from being a natural fucking badass is that he's innocent as fuck?
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What is the best fight in all of Type Moon?
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>>122409028
Taiga vs. bowl of rice
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>>122409003
That's really subjective. I personally liked him but I love fist fighters with a passion so my bias is very swayed towards liking him since he's just elbows and punches and doesn't need to be Shirou or Shiki to be wrecking shit.
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>>122409028
Without a doubt Shirou and Archer's battle in UBW. Nothing really compares to that moment.
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>>122409061
He's directly called the strongest Type Moon protagonist to date, at the start of the story.

It says he gets weaker as he becomes more civilized, but it doesn't really say he slips below anyone.
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>>122409109
They're not being very subtle about Archer's identity.
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>>122409028
Ask yourself, which fight do people talk about the most? Like, have long, sometimes pointlessly in-depth conversations about?

It's the Archer fight in UBW.
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>>122409003
He is cute and entertaining to watch but so far he didn't really show enough to be called "well written" or not
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>>122409127
I wonder where he would fall once he finally acclimates to the city after being the mountains for so long.

Would he fall to just a bit above Shiki/Shirou or actually stay fairly far ahead?
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>>122409156
Isn't this scene from the vita or something? Well, anyways everybody should know who Archer is by now.
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>>122404422
Kohaku Heaven's Feel Female Hakuno + Archer + saving Rin
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>TM thread
>no obligatory shouting couple

Let's fix that.
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>>122409127
>strongest Type Moon protagonist to date
What asspull ability does he have that can beat UBW and Shiki?
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>>122409404
>no obligatory shouting couple

TOUKOOOOO
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if anyone cares, the hana no miyako sequal is out
chapter one is on the artists pixiv.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=49192820

came out 2 days ago
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>>122409455
No special ability, he's just the strongest.

His main feat is one-punching the shit out of a werewolf that should have been far far above humans and most things. His punch was so perfect that the werewolf just collapsed in on itself

It's like if Shiki or Shirou were to fight him, it would probably be a lot like trying to fight Kuzuki, and getting punched out without question.

If you had to guess his ability, then you could probably say that living in nature so long made him something closer to Gaia, something closer to the humans of old, before they became weaker as a group.
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>>122396346
Rin a best.
Seibah a second best.
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Realistically speaking. How long is Mahoyo?
Everyone keeps saying how it's short so I guess it would be like one of Fate's route length.
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>>122409582
Why is she wearing socks in the bath?
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>>122409522
Get on it, Junk.
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>>122409707
It's probably about as long as Fate, about 1mb of text
The thing is that it has a lot of sol so in the end it doesn't feel like much has happened
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>>122409715
She's also doing the laundry.
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>>122409772
The Fate route, or the entire novel? I mean keep in mind, the novel's long as hell.
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>>122409582
Agreed on Rin.

Illya a second best for me, though I do like Seiba.
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>>122403488
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>>122409820
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>>122409810
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>>122409808
The Fate route
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>>122409772
So the longest route? That's pretty long.
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>>122409863
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>>122409459
I want to lick her belly button.
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>>122409919
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>>122409956
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>>122409996
Is that supposed to be Rin's kid?
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>>122410006
Shota Kirei.
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>>122410227
That looks like something from Ufotable.
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>>122408805
>>122408858
Type-moon is really good at producing GAR men.
Translation when?
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>>122410227
Man, that's pretty good. Who drew it?
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>>122409855
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>>122410397
What would it be like to have sex with the person that is the owner of these amazing puppies?
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>>122410795
real magic
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>>122396346

Yeah, they went from a company of fantastic visual novels to a joke house.
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>>122410281
http://commiesubs.com/mahoyo/#progress

>67.99%
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>>122411076
>>67.99%
I wonder if it will ever be finished in my lifetime.
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>>122411131
Just learn moon runes. Do you also want to wait five years to read the the new Tsukihime after it's release?
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>>122411328
B-but Tsukihime's popular enough and major enough that the translations will go smoothly, right? Right?

Part of me thinks that the overlap Tsukihime has with the FGC because of Melty Blood might help translations, but what the hell do I know, I'm a scrub.
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>>122406313
>tfw Ufo animates HA scene where Rider tries on different clothing in the store with Shirou
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>>122406313
Sauce?
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>>122403235
Soujuurou fucks Alice, not Aoko.
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>>122411732
I thought it wasn't an eroge.
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>>122405145
Astolfo pls
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>>122411917
I don't get it it. Why did Archer do that?
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So the screening for the UBW episodes happens around 6:00 Japan time, which amounts to 48 hours from now.
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>>122402561
The 2nd image is fanart done by some Koyama poser.

Koyama is way better than that.
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What if this guy was active during Fate and UBW?
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>>122412007
The dresses seem immature.
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>>122412014
>What if zouken was active during Fate and UBW?
FTFY, they are a packaged deal.
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>>122412014
He's pretty shit without the Shadow winning all his battles.
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>>122412014
Archer or Gil would shoot him with swords until he died
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>>122410267
It really does.

>>122410313
https://twitter.com/n_anz_k
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>>122412014
He never really wins a battle on his own as far as I remember, shadow always showed up.
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>>122411857
Damnit, I can't not love Rin with her hair down.
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What time is considered to be from the age of gods?
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>>122412168
During the Classical Greek Era
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>>122412168
Before Gilgamesh, generally. First hero and all that.
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>>122396346
Never
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no one has mentioned the birthday girls?
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>>122412227
>before gilgamesh
Gilgamesh was a dude who lived way before the age of the gods. Medea and Herakles lived during that time which was way later than when Gilgamesh lived in Uruk.
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>>122412227
That's just flat-out wrong. Greek Mythology is constantly called "Age of Gods" in FSN.
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>>122412257
>Shiki is giving them pearl necklaces for their presents after taking them out on a dinner date to celebrate their birthdays
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>>122412257
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>>122412341
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>>122412341
>>122412360
Keep going.
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>>122412422
'S all there is.
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Diarmuid's spear cancels magic, what would happen if he hit a reality marble with it?
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>>122412501
RM isn't really magic.
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>>122412501
I don't think there would ever be something for him to stab with the spear in order to cancel. Once you're inside the Reality Marble it's no longer a Bounded Field from your perspective, it's the World.
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>>122412014
He got fucked up by Kirei. I'm not so sure he'll make any significant difference.
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>>122412501

Unclear. Stabbing the ground may cause the boundary field to collapse, or it may accomplish nothing. Or because the boundary field is the user, Gae Dearg might cancel the spell if it touches the one who casted it.
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>>122412573

Kirei only managed to hold him still for a tiny bit, people really overplay that.
If Hassan had decided to launch a dirk at his head instead of use Delusional Heartbeat, Kotomine would have died instantly.
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>>122396346
Any of them canon virgins?
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>>122412640
Shiki and Aoko both made it through their primary stories with virginity intact, though we know for sure that Shiki eventually marries and has a kid with Kokutou. Saber's dick-cherry might've been popped when Merlin made her a futa back in Camelot, but both she and Arc are virgins at the start of their stories, and in routes that aren't theirs end as virgins as well. With the possible exception of Saber in HF if you count tentacles.
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>>122403739
Are cocktail waitresses with lighters in their tits a common thing?
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>>122412640
Aoko until Shiki fucks her with his armcock
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>>122412697
Why is Aoko a virgin?
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>>122412713
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>>122412720

Nasu's never given her a partner. Soujuurou went for the Alice.
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>>122412697
>implications that kay didn't fuck seibah's anus during their squire days like was common back then
>they stayed in the same room together for several nights and they would never let anyone else in
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>>122412720
Soujuurou is Alice's fuccboi
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>>122412583
>>122412563
>>122412512
>>122412501
"cancels magic" is vague, the natural world is Gaia's reality marble and the inside of one is a purely physical location. It depends on what the spear does, if it just fixes things according to Gaia's reality it might work inside another RM, if it does something else probably not.
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>>122412737
Why didn't Soujuurou pick Aoko?
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>>122412782

Gaia is not generated through the properties of magecraft, however, and a reality marble is.
There is no magus creating Gaia.
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>>122412783
because the main girl route is never as good as the rest of the game
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>>122412813
A Reality Marble isn't really Magecraft, either. The actual act of manifesting one might or might not be (probably not), but a Reality Marble itself is something different entirely.
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>>122412813
that's because everybody is generating Gaia collectively, thats what magic circuits are doing when they aren't being abused to hack the matrix
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>>122412737
>Soujuurou went for the Alice
He may be the strongest protagonist to date, but he also has the worse taste. How the hell he can he just pass those puppies up.
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>>122412842

It is magecraft. It is a forbidden pinnacle of magecraft, but magecraft nonetheless. It's comparing a flashlight to the sun, but an innate bounded field is still a bounded field.
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>>122412870
It's something far too fundamental to the universe to be considered Magecraft. It's like calling the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception a psychic power. TECHNICALLY you aren't wrong, but there's something far more fundamental underlying the whole process.
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>>122412870

We don't even know how much prana a typical RM needs. Shirou exhausted Rin's supply just using his UBW. Kerry did his time accel and I'm pretty sure he has way less prana than Rin.
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>>122412854
Perfect puppies combined with worst hair colors.
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>>122412930
Brown hair is way better than black hair though

And it could be worse, it could be dark purple
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>>122412926
The Prana cost comes from sustaining it against Gaia trying to crush it. Take someone with a Reality Marble and put them on a dead, lifeless planet, far removed from Gaia's influence, and they would be able to sustain a Reality Marble without spending any Prana.
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>>122412926

Time Alter is an ordinary bounded field that coincidentally happens to disturb reality's laws, not a reality marble. However even if it were, Kiritsugu doesn't extend it past his skin, which is what causes the tremendous tax on magical energy. (Nrvnqsr uses the same means to have a constant RM going)
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>>122412930
>worst hair colors
She's pretty much perfect.
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Why didnt Sakura get pregnant during the period after heavens feel?
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>>122412987
I'd say Mahoyo Aoko still has a bit of personal growth before she hits perfection.
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>>122412969
Black haired girls are generally accepted to be the sexiest.
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>>122413003
Worms ate it
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>>122413027
worms ate what?
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>>122413009
Well we are getting two more games, right?
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>>122413044
Uterus.
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>>122413003
Sakura can't get pregnant now because of what the worms did to her.
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>>122413159
Except the entire reason Zouken adopted her is so that later on she could produce an heir to participate in the next war.

Then he found the bits of the Fourth War's Grail and decided to do an experiment, and then the Fifth War happened too soon, so in 2/3 routes he figured he'd just wait it out and try for the Sixth War with Sakura's kid.
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Does Aoko live in the same mansion Akiha does?
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>>122412854
She is a bitch 80% of the time, like at the level of the worse tsundere
Who the fuck would want to be with that?
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>>122413284
No, of course not. She wouldn't be a virginy anymore if that was the case.
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>>122413299
I mean didn't she live there before Akiha's dad moved in?
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>>122413213
Yeah, Zouken adopted her for a reason at first.

Then he threw her in the wormpit for three days, expecting she would die in the process and not caring if she did. Dude either lied about the sixth war, or just can't keep track of what he wants, what with his degradation.
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>>122413317
These mansions aren't even slightly similar.
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>>122413260
Aoko does things to my d
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>>122413353
>Nasu: That's correct. We don't want players to feel the setting is unpolished no matter how far back it's set. The goal is to have the player should feel "I want to live in this city," to paint a memorable and beautiful street scene. Actually the setting is Tsukihime's Misaki Town, Tsukihime fans should be able to recognize locations such as the grilled beef restaurant Dai Teito. The Kuonji household has the same location as Tohno household from Tsukihime.

Either Mahoyo as depicted in the VN and Tsukihime as depicted in the VN are in two mutually exclusive world lines, or a LOT happens in the relatively few years (probably less than five) between Mahoyo and the flashbacks/prologue of Tsukihime.
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>>122413320
You mean 5th war and he probably expected her to collapse mentally, not outright die.

I dunno. Source please. Light novel or VN?
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>>122413398
What kind of things?
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>>122413409
Zero prologue.

>"There were terrible cries for the first three days, but by the fourth day, she was silent. Today, she was thrown at dawn in the worm storage to test how well she would last, but, ho ho, she endured it for half a day and is still breathing. What do you know, the Tōsaka material isn't defective."

Zouken was surprised that she was still breathing. He expected that she would die, and he didn't throw her in there to break her mentally.
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For those who read the VN first, what was it like watching Fate/Zero?
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>>122413428
Well, you know, those kind of things.
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>>122413556
"This is all going to end in tears, and I am going to laugh."
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>>122412257
Happy maid birthday
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>>122413576
Not at all, no.
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>>122413538
Zouken can control her body by taking it over, he may not care about whether she survives in the first place.
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>>122413556
I read Fate/Zero, and was struck by the incongruities between Waver and Rider.

Aren't Masters and Servants supposed to be cut from the same cloth? What's up with this shit? There are no similarities whatsoever between them.
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>>122413556
i enjoyed f/z but it felt pretty forced at parts to me. matter of fact, seeing the emiya estate again made me more emotional than many of the supposed sadder parts.
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>>122413617
That he doesn't care if she survives is made pretty apparent by how he threw her in without caring if she lived or died.
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>>122403346
I'm confused, that Saber looks Koyama as fuck.
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>>122413696
Summoned in absence of catalyst will result in similar personalities. With a catalyst means less likely but not impossible. E.g. A piece of the round table could land you anyone from Camelot in theory.
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>>122413616
She's so sexy
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>>122413696
>Aren't Masters and Servants supposed to be cut from the same cloth?

Not necessarily, What item is used to summon them is what really matters.
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>>122413730
Yep. Avalon will guarantee you Seiba (or maybe Francis Drake/Queen Elizabeth, since she got in as well), but technically you can also summon her with other catalysts, as long as they match.
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Fate/Stay Night was where Type-Moon jumped the shark. They will never recover from it.
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Does anyone have a full color version of Oda Nobunaga? She looks hot as fuck.
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>>122413734
Big puppies are just a miracle.
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>>122403739
>dat Rider
please merciful Jesus let there be a full-body picture of her
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>>122413556
I loved Kirei's character. His transformation from a devoted acolyte to the monster he is in FSN was written so well. I've gained new respect for him.
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>>122404422
Tsukihime: Hisui
Fate/SN: Fate
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>>122407005
Because she looked like a baa-san.
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>>122413556
The part where they find their ruined base after Alexander demolishes it and tirade on about how that mindless brute with no regard for art has destroyed their grand masterpieces is easily the third best part of the LN.
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>>122413405
>The Kuonji household has the same location as Tohno household from Tsukihime.
Maybe he meant Misaki by that?
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>>122404422
Tsuki: Arcueid
Fate: Fate
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>>122404422
HF
Fate became okay after reading Fate/Zero, and Heaven's Feel was the greatest by far, but UBW was just generic irrelevant shounen drivel. It didn't help that Rin barely even did anything in her own route except act like a generic tsundere.
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>>122410267
>that face
ufo please stop.
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>>122413862
>UBW was just generic irrelevant shounen drivel

Oh boy I love people who spout this nonsense, What's great is they're always so arrogant about it too.
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>>122411076
This must be the biggest lie on the internet.
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>>122413892
It's probably bait, just ignore it.

Honestly, I never really liked HF all that much, but to each their own.
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>>122411993
Because he's an idiot with no fashion sense.
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>>122413892
>implying that UBW is not generic shounen drivel
He's right that it is generic shounen drivel. Aside from the sex, there is nothing that separates it from battle shounen. Even the Japanese were complaining about it when the season was airing.

>inb4 japanese secondaries
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>>122412112
Bazett ;_;
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Nasu plots are too convenient. Well, so are most plots. Most of his characters (such as Gil) are one-sided and aren't really believable. Shirou is an exception. On Kara no Kyoukai, he fleshes out more characters. On Fate/Zero, Kirei and Kiritsugu are also very well developed, as are most of its characters actually. I've been thinking that F/SN should be rewritten by Urobochi Gen since I've finished the novel.
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>>122413949
What's wrong? She's with her beloved Cu in the picture.
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>>122413945
Have you actually read the route?
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>>122413962
Yes. And I also read Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach until some points when they got too long. And you are also trying to argue with Japanese people.
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>>122413962
>>122413892
He's been caught. This ain't catch and release.
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If Gilgamesh was able to break through Ionian Hetairoi in Fate Zero with Enuma Elish, why didn't he just apply the same tactic when fighting against Shirou's UBW?
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>>122413959
Maybe that's why? His waifu is Bazett but Bazett want the Cu D.
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>>122413957
>I've been thinking that F/SN should be rewritten by Urobochi Gen since I've finished the novel.
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>>122413979
Explain to me what makes UBW shounen.

>>122413985
If I get a legitimate reply to this, then this is more then bait.
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>>122413556
What the Grail War should've been. We're told repeatedly that it's really fucking dangerous and you should go in expecting to die horribly but not much of that happens in F/SN and you get a War full of women and children. At least F/Z had characters with motives instead of "So there's a Holy Grail War and I summoned a Servant, it can't be helped so I'll fight" or "I'll fight because my father/Servant/ancestor told me to."

Also it had Kiritsugu's mentor fighting vampire Pain with vampire bee familiars. Needless to say no one survived that incident. Don't attack people with vampire bees when they're boarding a plane.
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>>122413999
He tried. But by that point he was already on tilt and when he went for Ea, Shirou cut off his arm.
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>>122411993
because he thinks it's torn
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>>122413999
He didn't get a chance. It takes a bit to retrieve and then spin it up, and Shirou wasn't giving him the chance.
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>>122413957
When Urobuchi was asked if he would change anything about F/SN plot, he said no. His a really big fan of Nasu you know.
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>>122412257
I was expecting a lot more from Kohaku's route after Hisui's True End. In the end you never really get to see Kohaku as her own person really, as Ciel-sensei says she's more of a route that ties everything together.
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>>122396346
Type-Moon was good, apparently. But now perhaps its true face has surfaced or it has changed to worse.

The only good thing remaining is Prisma Ilya, apparently.
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>>122414111
>apparently
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>>122413862
I have a lot of issues with UBW, its also the one that is very close to the shounen archtype stories.

UBW is the "saving everyone" (if you discount Ilya) as Shiro becames the typical shounen hero ... well almost because UBW is Archer Route that is why I dislike it since Rin is STILL a supporting character, Shiro is made useless so Archer can win (yes, he "wins" against Archer ... big fucking deal considering how it ends) and nothing on the story arc itself was very interresting ... Caster just could not stand to be the "main" enemy of the Arc as Ilya did in Fate as Gilmesh is simply not fit as the "final boss", yes ... he was in Fate but not as a replacement of Kotomine.
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>>122414132
They were never more than a 8/10 which is pretty good but not great
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>>122414017
It particularly follows Naruto.

MC has a shitty life at the start
MC has a goal
MC works hard toward goal to the point of harming themselves
MC gets into a shitty sequence of events that lets them know they have secret/hidden abilities that almost no one has
MC finds out that they have secret shit stashed in their bodies by their parents
Their parents are super-legends
MC later finds out that they are super talented because of this secret and didn't really need to work that hard, they just had to realize their abilities
MC has multiple love interests
MC faces life changing events that shape their entire egos during their youth and they fight on with their ideals but keep realistic about it
They even get love interest heroine #2 at the ending of the route (true route).

The route plays out as a battle shounen. It really does. Some Japanese even complained about how "harem-ish" it was and how jarringly different the story is compared to F/Z.

Which I agree with years before.
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>>122414180
Uhm... you don't get to shitpost.
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>>122414180
Dude, you just described every route.
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UBW relies way too much on the fact that the viewer knows the storyline of the Fate route. Shirou's progression of power is ridiculous. First he was swinging pipes around, then all of a sudden TRACING SWORDS LEFT AND RIGHT.

I can see why they did it this way, it just feels really awkward to watch. On the other hand, I also don't think making it a full length series would be a good idea as well.
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>>122414204
The last two parts slightly change in Fate and HF. Which is why you can't exactly say that Naruto is the same as them.
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>>122414023
>We're told repeatedly that it's really fucking dangerous and you should go in expecting to die horribly but not much of that happens in F/SN

This is the game where Shirou dies or otherwise cannot continue his life due to horrendous malady in 41 out of 45 possible ends, right?
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>>122414135
>Shiro is made useless so Archer can win (yes, he "wins" against Archer ... big fucking deal considering how it ends)

The fuck are you talking about? Shirou beat Archer and he beat Gilgamesh. Archer just got in a final blow as basically an apology for al the evil she had been doing.

And Gil works as a perfect final boss for Shirou. Shirou is a faker, Gil is the original. Shirou makes copies of weapons, Gil has the prototypes. Shirou is an imitation hero, Gil is the King of Heroes.

It completely ties into the main theme of the route: imitation vs original, and how an imitation can surpass an original.
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>>122414233
>UBW relies way too much on the fact that the viewer knows the storyline of the Fate route
That's why Fate route is free in japan
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>>122396346

No, it's just you who got out of your teens
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How old were you when you read F/SN?
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>>122414135
I love how you just completely disregarded the whole route about Shirou fighting for his ideal.
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>>122414180
This is so unbelievably generic you may as well say "the story has a villain" as proof that everything rips off LotR.
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>>122414268
Saber's husbandos are a bunch of guys in Brooklyn.
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>>122414294
That's not true. UBW and Naruto both have villains, but they don't share the same formula that they have and showed you with LotR.
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>>122414245
Clearly though HF is more like Naruto, as Sakura has more parallels to Hinata.

Christ you're fucking stupid.
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>>122414180
Holy shit UBW is Naruto
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>>122414350
Naruto doesn't give up almost everything for pussy. How the fuck can HF be more Naruto than UBW? And Sakura is heroine #3, not #2.
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>>122414350
So HF is the movie and UBW is the manga? Does that make Fate the television series.
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>>122414388
You're pulling shit out of your ass with "heroine number 2". Hinata is the caring dere wallflower, not the tsundere that is Rin. Did Naruto get with Sakura?

So I guess, since you pointed that the entirety of FSN shares all those points except for the last two, then HF is just as much Naruto.
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>>122413903
Apparently Nasu's writing is very hard to translate.
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>>122414371

Isn't it really more like Naruto is UBW?
F/SN came out fully complete in 2004, Naruto had only been in production for 5 years (19 volumes) at the time.
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>Avenger was just some poor negro

I see. Fate/stay night is about racism.
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>>122414433
You are a fucking idiot. Heroine number 2 is always Rin. Almost all artwork shows that.
>concentrating on this one point and ignoring everything else

Because you're an idiot.
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>>122414480

Persian.
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>>122414449
Well, I can understand that seeing some F/SN bad translation examples.
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>>122414434
Who the cutie patootie on the right?
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>>122403739
Is that Zouken?
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>>122414480
Original Persians were actually white guys. There still are very white Persians.
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>>122414480
>Blame the brown kid for everything that is evil in this world.
Pretty much just about racism.
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Shirou = Naruto
Shiki = Sasuke
Kiritsugu = Itachi
MEODP = Sharingan
Tracing = Shadow Clones
Rin & Saber = Sakura
Sakura = Hinata

Think about it.
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>>122404628
The VN is shit.
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>>122414530
>Kiritsugu = Itachi
>MEODP = Sharingan
Kiritsugu has the eyes of death?
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>>122414488
Just talking in terms of "heroine number 2" is hilarious. You pulled that out to draw a comparison to Naruto, but as characters, Sakura and Hinata are much more similar.

So basically you're using your arbitrary rules to hammer in your point, without actually thinking about the characters.
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>>122414480
Avenger wasn't even evil. He was just a smarmy asshole. The Avenger wraiths that became wolves after the end of a cycle were just manifestations.

Avenger was just some poor negro that got sacrificed as "all evils of the world" by a village, in order to fulfill a ritual. He doesn't even care about it all by the time he's mistakenly summoned.
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>>122414457
So FSN came out when Naruto already had 19 volumes?
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>>122414530
Holy shit kill yourself if you're serious
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>>122414530
>Ufotable leaves an ambiguous anime original ending for UBW
>implied Sakura is getting with Shirou
>HF movie is completely original and takes place on the moon.

We Naruto now.
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>>122414549
Arbitrary as that may be, that is simply one point. Naruto never almost gave everything up for the sake of pussy, just like in UBW, opposite of what happened in HF.

UBW is more Naruto than HF if we think of the MC, rather than the heroine. (Still, Rin and Hinata are still both heroine #2).
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>>122414557
Naruto is banished from Konoha and lands in Fuyuki fire. Kiritsugu trains young ninja who takes on the mantle of hero!
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>>122414556

Yes. Naruto had a total of 72 volumes, so it upped its release schedule (or shrunk its volume size?) a moderate amount for the other 10 years of its run.
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>>122412112
is it from UFO? if yes, I'm pretty sure bazett will be animated
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>>122414586
So because you can find one single extra similarity to Naruto out of a bunch you pulled out, that pushes UBW over the edge?

Like what is your fucking point here? The joke has always been that FSN is the Naruto of VNs, but like, what are you getting at?
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>>122414622
I hope they add some Bazett flashback in Lancer's death. But don't show her face.
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>>122414557
The dots are all connected. Only thing left is for you to accept it.
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>>122414530
Saber vanished when she destroyed the grail during the 6th and Final Holy Grail War. Returning to the point when she was about to die, the King of Knights was determined to wait for Shirou, even if it took forever. What if, by some twist of fate she and Shirou were reborn into the Shinobi world, as Sakura and Naruto? What if she is the only one who remembers?

Post-HF.
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who will watch UBW in 14 march?
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>>122414672
Some Japanese people who go to the theater.
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>>122414672
/r/fatestaynight
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>>122414672
Why watch that when I can watch Naruto now?
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shitposting time? I'll spam Rin's pic instead
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>>122414691
>watch

Read the manga, secondary.
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>>122414696
>then HF is more Naruto than UBW will ever be
For the second paragraph.
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>>122414695
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>>122414626
Let's settle it here.

If we're talking about the MC's story, then UBW is far more Naruto than HF will ever be.

But if we're being a shit and deciding that stories are based on heroines and not the MCs, then HF is more Naruto than UBW will ever be. Except if we concentrate and focus on heroines, none of the heroines' stories ever match up with those in Naruto.

That is the flaw with your shitpicking. It doesn't follow formula.
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>>122414708
Why would I read 100 volumes of your shit manga when there is a vastly superior anime and movie that's already been released?
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What do the mages, vampires, church agents, the association think of science in the Nasuverse?
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>>122414695
until the shitposter gone
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>>122414748
We know Rin thinks it as trash that she can't work with.
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>>122414695
It's the same lonely faggot, just report him.
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>>122414746
You have to accept the dull manga and its shitty translations that take nine years otherwise you have to leave. I don't make the rules here, pal.
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>>122414729
>implications
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>>122414743
You're the one who pointed the heroine thing as being one of the two similarities that really hammer in that UBW is Naruto; you are admitting though that you are backing out of that right now, so you have one thing that makes UBW more Naruto. Shirou doesn't puss out on his goal. Okay. Neither does Fate Shirou. You're not bringing that up in the conversation for some reason. So your point is that HF between the three is slightly less Naruto I guess?

Fuck this is a dumb conversation. Funny though.
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>>122414771
Why would you want this to stop, the thread was slow as fuck anyways and I've been laughing my ass off at these post.
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>>122414782
It's not an implication, it's a fact.
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>>122414748
Remember, this is a world where all of reality is decided by a giant sleeping god who generally does not like humanity.
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>>122414748
"lol noobs" basically

magic research is very scientific at least in modern times, just that mages get all the facts while common scholars are denied knowledge of magic circuits or the stuff that reality actually runs on

Its been said that if Zelretch or someone else with knowledge of True Magic sat a scientist down and explained their theories eventually the scientist could build a tool or device to do the same thing.
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>>122414801
The similarity I pointed out was the secondary heroine, not the main heroine (Sakura/Saber) won.
That was the only similarity I pointed out, you piece of shit. Nothing else about heroine personality. In HF, the goal takes a seat to fucking pussy, which Naruto/UBW never has. You shit.
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>>122414826
>fact
If fact meant a lie. Then yes, it's a fact.
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Remember, this is a world where all of reality is decided by a giant sleeping god who generally does not like humanity.
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Spreading her legs like the slut she is.
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>>122414828
So it's practicaly pic related?
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>>122414850
>The similarity I pointed out was the secondary heroine, not the main heroine (Sakura/Saber) won.

Yeah, and that's just some arbitrary comparison you made up. I can do that too. HF is super Naruto because Sakura and Hinata are the same. See how I'm working this?

Also keep cursing, it's funny.
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>>122414876
She only spreads her legs for one man.
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>>122414884
Yes the Clocktower is pretty much an Order of Hermes expy
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Why are people mad about UBW being a faithful tribute to shounen? It's a kindness not an insult.
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>>122414886
Are you logically retarded, you shit?
>>122414743
>But if we're being a shit and deciding that stories are based on heroines and not the MCs, then HF is more Naruto than UBW will ever be. Except if we concentrate and focus on heroines, none of the heroines' stories ever match up with those in Naruto.
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>>122414913
People are afraid of being called manchildren.
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Holy shit, do we have mods or what? A janitor at least would be nice.
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>>122414921
I already covered this brother. You're already saying the heroine comparison is shaky, so that leaves you one Naruto point, a point that's shared with Fate too.

Like, I don't even know what you're getting at anymore, but I'm having fun.
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>>122414942
For what purpose?
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I am the strongest Servant. Gilgamesh wishes he was as cool as me.

I eat Ea for breakfast.

Who am I?
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>>122414890
You sure about that?
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>>122414960
>being intentionally idiotic
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which is better? Hisayuki Tabata's design or Tomonori Sudou's design?
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>>122403739
>Shinji in the bottom right
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>>122415006
As long as it isn't Takeuchi it's fine.
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>>122414992
Yeah, because Soujuurou is Alice's fuccboi.
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>>122415006
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>>122414997
You've yet to address my point about the Fate route. Like, you've just dodged it, so why should I take you seriously?

I mean straight up I'm not taking you seriously at all, because you went to the energy to think up a list of why UBW is comparable to Naruto, but still.
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When is Type Moon going to announce a political drama set in the Mage's Association?
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>>122415033
That fucking face
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>>122415006
Who drew this beautiful version of Saber?
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>>122415006
Which of them drew this?
>https://twitter.com/Fate_SN_Anime/status/575244533920759808
Rin looks like shit, Saber too.

REMOVE UFO.
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>>122415026
Alice pussy is too cold now.
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Sesame Street is better than Type-Moon. Prove me wrong.
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>>122415076
It says who the illustrator is right there.
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>>122415075
That must be one of the worst Sabers I've seen.
>dat face
>dem jojo shoulder pads
>dat huge armor
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>>122415039
You addressed fucking nothing. If we're looking at it from an MC pov, then it correctly matches up with UBW, because the 2nd heroine is Rin. Fate has the main heroine getting with the MC. Therefore, in any stretch, you cannot compare Fate with Naruto.

Because Saber is unlike Hinata in personality.
And Saber is the main heroine unlike Hinata.

That is where your entire argument falls on its sword. Stop being intentionally stupid.
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>>122415102
Why is the white girl wrapping her arms around the brown man?
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>>122415051
when UBW sequel aired

jokes aside, the closest thing we might be got is waver's novel
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>>122415033
ayy indeed
who drew that?
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>>122415120
You even reading my posts, brother? I'm not talking about heroines. Shirou holds onto his ideal in both Fate and UBW, which is the other thing you were hammering as specific to the latter route.

Keep up the pace, man.
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>>122415102
Then this Ikumi bitch must not be allowed to draw for Fate again in her miserable life.
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>>122415134
Because Saber sleeps with huge Americans from Brooklyn,USA.
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>>122415075
Space Marine Saibah
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A masterpiece of post-modernism, intertextuality and metaphysics.

This game spams more tropes than I could ever link you to. So I won't keep trying. However, most of them are decently well executed, so this game actually rides a fine line between cliche storm and troperiffic, and how much you enjoy it will largely depend on how jaded you are and how much you like this particular genre. In fact, the game almost seems to be a direct rip-off of FSN at times, so how much you liked that is the only indicator you need.

Tsukihime uses (and sometimes lampshades) everything that's good about typical shonen action, and either averts or subverts (or even explicitly mocks) several of the common pitfalls. The former means that all the battles are cool, and some are downright epic. The latter means that, among other things: there is a lot of disagreement and infighting among the protagonists, there is often no identifiable villain to defeat or objective to complete, it is often unclear what if anything would be morally right, and the protagonists are powerless to stop most (but not all) of the tragic events.

Fundamentally, everything is character-driven, and the characters are excellent. They all have different opinions and motivations which can and do clash, none of them are useless, and none of them are idiots (in a bad way). Also, they're all capable of being funny, especially when grouped together, which is important given all the slice of life scenes.

There are no dull moments in Tsukihime; literally every scene is entertaining. But the game is not flawless. Most of the truly awesome events are in the final route, so a couple routes never get very far above "entertaining". There is also a mild degree of predictability throughout. And some of the choices are stupidly misleading. But that's it.
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>>122415136
With the worst Saberclone ever
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>>122415075
Takuya Aoki. He seems to have been promoted to animation supervisor since UBW. He did animation supervision for episodes 2,9, and 12(2 and12 had multiple supervisors).
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>>122415134
He's not just a brown man he's the servant Brownie
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>>122415160
Stop with your red herrings that are deliberately trying to stray away from the argument already set forth. I ain't arguing what you're arguing. My arguments have already been set. It's in the preceding posts.

If you can't win the original argument and only want to look like you "won" by creating a new argument that is only partially relevant to the original argument, don't expect others to chase your shit.
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>>122415185
Should you really be calling it a ripoff of FSN instead of saying that it's more like FSN beta: Now with worse effects and writing?

Also, saying no character is useless is misleading. Sure, Hisui helps with Kohaku stuff and Ciel is an important supporting character for Arcueid and Akiha, but their routes are bad and Hisui in particular has little reason for existing besides filling out the fetish quota.
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>>122415006
both of them is the official character designer for UBW anime

I like Tabata's style, it shows Rin's cheerful/playful side more better, but I hate the fucking sidemouth
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>>122415162
She seems to mostly do in-between and second key animation at Ufotable.
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>>122415171
What is it with Saber and Brooklyn?
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If Jay-Z were Archer, who is Gilgamesh? Eminem?
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>>122415219
Dude I wasn't changing the argument at all. You pointed out that the two major things that set UBW as more "Naruto" is that a. Shirou gets with the "second" heroine (even though comparably Sakura has more traits similar to Hinata), and b. Shirou keeps his ideal. Shirou keeps his ideal in Fate, too.

So I don't know what you're getting at, man. Okay, Fate as a whole is super Naruto. We'll go with that, but don't hammer away specifically at UBW. Makes you look dumb.
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>>122415244
Vanilla Ice.
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Tsukihime: Most of the setting is just cosmetic, it's mostly a boy meets girl story with some action scenes.
And the routes with actual good plot have fuck all to do with this setting.

FSN: Mostly a self-contained battle royale with barely anything to do with the setting. It couldn't take place in a completely different universe and nothing would change.

That's why I don't understand the TM fags, what is so fun about discussing stuffs that are irrelevant in the long run? None of this shit ever mattered in the real games.
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>>122404258
This nigga fucking gets it, except that
>TM fans are always the biggest bitches no matter what.
isn't true. There are plenty of TM fans who are quite happy with how things are.
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>>122415260
>not changing the argument
>but is changing the argument
Read above.
If you can't handle losing and keep on changing the argument, I have no reason to continue responding to you.
If you actually can't understand why I am saying this, go back to college and study logic 101 to at least understand what the fuck you are doing is wrong and makes no logical sense.
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>>122415229
I hate it too
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>>122415277
Because it's interesting. Are you retarded or something?
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>>122415304
>that face
ufotable pls

pls
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>>122414530
>Shirou being Naruto
>Not being Sasuke
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Type-Moon stuff isn't any better than Bleach/Naruto. You can pretend it is if it makes you feel better though. Basically imagine the undeveloped, lifeless characters from Bleach wearing top hats and monocles trying to engage in "deep" and philosophical discussion, and you got the heart and soul of KnK, Fate, and Tsukihime.
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>>122415294
I love how you still haven't said a word about Fate Shirou keeping his ideal. You can't come up with an answer.

Whatever pal, we're maxed.
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If Shirou wants to protect everyone, why did he not use protection when he jackhammered Rin?
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>>122415371
Wasting sperm isn't protecting the potential lives of all those children.
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>>122415357
Wow way to go, you sure put this 11 year old porn game on blast. Did it feel good? You feel validated, pumpkin? Big fuckin' man?
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What is the target age range for Type Moon's audience?
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>>122415357
Go back to your furry board
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>>122415460
As they are porn games, 18+.
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>>122415076
>>122415102
>>122415162
still better than this
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>>122415460
13-19 teenage boys
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>>122415508
No, not really
>>
Fate/shit and its target audience of fate/kids are the worst tumors that happened to grow on TM virgin body that cannot create anything now. All we get is sameface everywhere.
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>Hero sacrifices everything for the one he loves

HF is shonen as fuck.
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Any news on whether that Tsukihime voice project made any progress?
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>>122415371
Because Shirou wanted to get Tohsaka pregnant.
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Why does Tsukihime seem like it has so many plots that go off in completely different directions?

Is there something that ties them together or does the plot just fly off wildly in some direction after you make your initial choices?
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>>122415357
>Type-Moon stuff isn't any better than Bleach/Naruto.
If you're an autistic illiterate, maybe.
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>>122415460
Eroge targets 18+, genius.

>>122415491
That's shit too, that Chie bitch is garbage too. Sasuga fujoshi ruining anime.
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>>122415384
Neither is cumming on her body
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>regi-pokemon are stronger than servants

Seriously? This is the sacred Heaven's Feel?
>>
>>122415608
>Eroge targets 18+, genius.

This isn't 2004 anymore, grandpa.
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>Gandalf gets a power-up transformation
>Frodo and Sam save the world with the power of friendship and willpower
LotR is shonen as fuck.
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>>122409938
me too
and now i have a boner from that mental image thanks anon
>>
When will you people accept that Tsukihime faded away the moment Fate was release?
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>Luke goes from being a farm boy to blowing up the Death Star in like, a day

Fucking shonen wish fulfillment bullshit.
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>>122415710
And the lack of a remake isn't helping.
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>>122396346
F/SN, since it's legitimately great despite how much the series has been milked. Tsukihime has a considerably worse cast and is less complex in every regard, while Mahou Tsukai no Yoru is looking to be even worse.
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Is Tsukihime FF6 to F/SN's FF7, with some thinking there's a huge gap in quality between the two?
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>>122414729
Tsukihime is better than KnK. Ryougi is unsympathetic. I don't find myself caring a bit about her story. Every character other than Ryougi is what makes KnK worth reading.

Nanaya/Tohno Shiki only really comes into his own during Kagetsu Tohya, but he's still a good protagonist in Akiha and Kohaku's routes.
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>>122415805
No one cares about your opinion
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>>122415508
>>122415570
>>122415630
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>>122415805
>forgetting that Mikiya and Shiki complete each other
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>>122404422
>Turkeyhandle
HISUI HISUI HISUI HISUI HISUI
True
>Fated to be milked forever
Torn between UBW and HF. Probably UBW? But HF has a better climax, though.
Really, I don't know. There wasn't such a sure winner this time for me, unlike with Crazy Demon Family Holidays.
>Holy Hanafuda War
Stil can't get even through Toraburu route, but it's already better than the entirety of Fate route.
And I like Fate.
>KT
RED DEMON GOD RED DEMON GOD RED DEMON GOD RED DEMON GOD
But I still haven't finished it.
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>>122415669
>Frodo and Sam save the world with the power of friendship and willpower
That doesn't happen.
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>>122415669
>the eagles

LITERAL. SHONEN. ASSPULL.
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>>122415831
I think the underlying theme and character journey in the series is just plain bad. Cocktoe and Shitki are not interesting characters, and their relationship is not well written or engaging on any emotional level. The good parts of the story are those which are either completely stand alone (like 5 and 6), or based on one-off external conflicts which are action packed (like 3). Otherwise in general KnK can fuck off.
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I want a story focusing on Miyako
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>>122415898
>>122415805
>This much shit taste
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>>122405058
But these children with messy clothing had more soul than out-of-the-bandbox and savvy Fate. And I liked Fate. But, you know... Fate is like my best friend and Tsukihime is like a love of my life. I enjoy the company of Fate as much as anybody else, but he just doesn't have something that Tsukihime has, plain enough.
I still haven't talked to KnK, though, but I have high hopes.
And I really hope Mahoyo learns to speak the language some time soon. She seems so lonely.
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>>122415970
Kara no Kyoukai is boring pretentious shit for faggots trying to be DEEP pseudo-intellectual weeaboos.
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Ryougi's marysueness turned me off from watching Kara no Kyoukai.
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What's taking Nasu so long to work on the Tsukihime remake?
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>>122415826
Shirou has race horse sized loads.
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>>122415854
It does, though. The only reason two gimp midget fucks managed to make it all the way to Mount Doom was because FRIENDSHIP and WILLPOWER.
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Why did Nasu bother writing Tsukihime, then spend so many years on additional material, if the entire story has been revealed to be a pale imitation of an earlier work, namely Kara no Kyoukai?
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>>122416093
He has to oversee tons of shit at the company. He may not write those spin offs, but you damn well know he double checks them to make sure they aren't going completely off the wall.
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>>122416121
Did you completly miss the part where Frodo succumbs to the Ring?
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>>122416133
Nasu wrote the development for Sieg in Apocrypha.
He came up with pic related.
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>>122414729
Her body and personality are not attractive.
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>>122415805
Nanaya is a terrible character.
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>>122416150
That's where FRIENDSHIP comes in.
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>>122415970
>Kara no Kyoukai is superior to Tsukihime-anime

I agree.
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>>122416222
Not realy.
How exactly does FRIENDSHIP help there?
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What happens to Azaka after the events of Kara no Kyoukai?
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>>122416099
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>>122416297
Censor that.
We're on a worksafe board
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Understand that Nasu is pulling shit from right under his nose again. He probably even forgot the parameters that he gave his DAAs.

At least 10 of them have unit stats far higher than 7 Servants average if they are able to at least defeat old Princess Arcueid.

Several of them have abilities that are too hax. One is a forest that absorbs magic.

One kills everyone within its RM zone.

Saber cannot defeat Nero if Nero moves even under Rin's mana supply.
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