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One Of The Only Non-Japanese Anime Artist Shares His Experience

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>Before getting hired, interviewers would warn Henry that it was a “tough industry”. The hours would be long and the pay would be low. He soon discovered just how much of an understatement that was.

>“Let’s just be clear: It’s not a ‘tough’ industry… It’s an ‘illegally harsh’ industry. They don’t pay you even remotely minimum wage, they overwork you to the point where people are vomiting at work and having to go to the hospital for medicine. They demand that you come in whenever they realize a deadline isn’t going to be met. That probably means about a month and a half of nonstop work without a single day off. Then you will be allowed to go back to your regular six-day workweeks of 10-hour days.”

>And, unlike the friendly camaraderie of American studios, in Japan they are completely silent. Thurlow says, “No one talks, or gets lunch together or anything. They just sit and work in complete silence and seem uninterested in changing this.”

>For a salary that’s been as low as $100 a month, the never-ending work schedule has landed Thurlow in the hospital three times for exhaustion and illness.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmeth/this-american-is-one-of-the-only-non-japanese-working-in-ani#.xhBmbJVjvA
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>>>/v/
>>>/pol/
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>the culmination of all his anger and frustration of his life in Japan.
The weeabiest faggot in this world shits on Japan.
Japan = shit confirmed.
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Such edginess.
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>>122243034
>And, unlike the friendly camaraderie of American studios, in Japan they are completely silent. Thurlow says, “No one talks, or gets lunch together or anything. They just sit and work in complete silence and seem uninterested in changing this.”


Sounds good to me.
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>Pierrot
>Tokyo's premier animation house
>one of Tokyo’s greatest anime studios

Are they serious?
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>>122243408
I don't see how this is considered negative, I'd prefer this to an obnoxious workplace filled with normalfags being retarded normies.
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>When posed with this question, Thurlow doesn’t hesitate: “When I was working as an animator in New York I could afford an apartment, buy stuff, and had time to ‘live a life.’ But the artist inside of me was screaming at the fact I wasn’t making really high-quality feature films and series. Now everything about my life is utterly horrible, however the artist in me is completely satisfied.”

At least he's happy.
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or you can just, you know, draw good porn and sell on the internet?
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You bet the people went drinking after work, they just didn't invite his sorry white ass.
>this stupid gaijin is so much of a weeaboo he won't quite even if we pay him a 100 bucks a month, get a load of that nerd
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>he spent years building his portfolio and learning Japanese
>probably in his 30s already
>still is a lowly inbetweener working on shitty anime

>meanwhile
>Bahi worked on several major anime as an key animator and designer
>he's only 22

I can't help but feel bad for him.
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>>122243634
There is a difference between a weeaboo and a skilled worker. See >>122243588. They didn't even invite him to the mandatory drinking events, which is very telling.
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>>122243634
he has actually worked on bigger projects too just you can't have a gaijin takes the fame
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Satelight has a whole team of french artists.
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>>122243221
People who aren't blind already know this. It is tough, tough to work there. Animator, voice actor, teacher, doctor, anything. It's tough. America is so much more welcoming.
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>>122243894
source?

background artists?
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>>122243529
Don't forget to tip your fedora >>122243529
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>>122243983
and the quality is shit.

>>122244024
>>>/v/
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>>122243034
>one of the only
Wow, buzzfeed is SWJ heaven and shitpile for retarded americans (saying "Retarded Americans" is basically saying "Retarded Retards" though)
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>>122243540
Topkek. Thats fantastic.
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>>122243529
>>>/r9k/
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>>122244063
My friend works in Japan as an english teacher. She says the work is alright but the people are extremely difficult to make friends with, they rarely talk to tourists, let alone immigrants. One day a friend of her came to her house but forgot to park the car properly. Her neighbors called the police and stopped talking to her ever since.
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>>122244206
>>>/fa/cebook
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wait so shirobako is lying to me?
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Good on the Japanese for chewing up and spitting out this asshole. What a fucking embarrassment.
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>>122244258
>forgot to park the car properly
How do you forget about something like that?
Like "Oops, you aren't supposed to park your car in the middle of the street in Japan?"
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>>122244258
If she's american, and uses that "English-teacher in Japan for a year (or something like that)" program, then ofcourse she's hated. No one likes those guys, because they're all weebs that want to experience Japan, just so they can brag about it. Please anon, your "friend" is a fucking retard, cut all connection with her, and hope her plane crashes on the way home, because they carry such a fucking normie.
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>>122243995
Background and art designers
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=92642
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=22239
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=117719
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=22236

There are tons of French artist working in the anime industry.
Masaaki Yuasa's studio is full of French animators too.
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>>122244304
>jelly
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>>122243034
linking buzzfeed fuck off op
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>>122243034
>Buzzfeed
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>>122244258
why do you have a female friend?
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>>122243034
>$100 a month
How the fuck is this acceptable? I'm pretty sure at minimum wage in my home state the least you'd get is maybe 1400 a month. This guy is an idiot.
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>>122243995
>>122244382
Also check this out if you're interested in non-Japanese artist working in anime
https://plus.google.com/communities/115223102854450061287
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>>122243034
>Buzzfeed
Fuck off.
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>>122244362
>No one likes those guys,
I don't know this one seems to have fun.
http://www.marycagle.com/index.php?id=69
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Don't most studios have a ton of Korean artists?
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>>122244561
these kids are probably stand users
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>>122244627
Nah, those are subcontractors in Korea.
There's only a few of them in Japan.
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>>122244561
It always irritates me when people tell me they saw me somewhere.
I mean, what the hell? What kind of discussion is supposed to start from that?
>No, the person you saw was my evil twin. Pay attention to the way "I" wear my coat. If it's buttoned up, it's not me. Do not approach that person. I'm serious. He might kill you.
Nobody ever appreciates this kind of humor. But what else are these people going for?

Alternatively:
>Yeah, that was me. I was walking home.
Imagine the possibilities for interesting discourse.
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>>122244627
"Have"? No, silly. They outsource to gooks.
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>>122243034
>minimum wage
Implying this is a real standard for the value of labor.

also fag needs to pace himself. he's not working in a coal mine you shouldn't pass out from fucking drawing.
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>>122244522
>It's especially difficult for the beginners because most of the time you are payed per animated cuts. Long cuts, short cuts, difficult action cuts or stills, the price is the same. Eddie told us it was around 50 dollars for 1 TV series cut, and around 150, 200 dollars for a feature film cut. In japan it means Layout (background pencil drawing + character rough poses) + Animation key frames (quite detailed but not clean-up). It depends of the cut but it's basically quite an amount of work. If you only manage to do 1 TV cut per day, you barely earn 1500 dollars a month. Beginners won't even do that. A good animator and by good, I mean efficient, can draw 50 or 60 standard quality cuts per month, and will earn around 3000 dollars.
He said earn $100, He can't even draw 3-4 cuts a month, no wonder his coworker doesn't invite him to drinking.
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>>122244258
And you shit on me for what reason? How about you fuck off.
>blogging for no reason
Kill yourself.
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>>122244737
>Being a chuu2 ironically
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>>122244512
Pretty sure it's because they aren't paid hourly, but by project. The same way you could comission an artist in the states right now for a painting, and they might spend, say, 100 hours doing it and you pay them $250.

Also, the amount of weeb knights in this thread flocking to defend glorious nippon is astounding. I know you guys get all your information from aneemay, but really, you should at least know something about the country you're so in love with. It's a shithole for the average japanese person as much as it's a shithole for foreign immigrants, frequent overworking, minimal pay, constant pressure both in the workplace and socially. Yes part of OP's poor experience was probably him being American, but the experience of the majority of industry really isn't all that much better.
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>>122244561
>「we are talking in Japanese now」

Jesus, I thought only Megatokyo did that shit.
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>>122244841
He's still an inbetweener. He gets paid by sheet, not by cut like key animators do.
$100 is about 100 sheets.
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>>122244737
Embarrassing
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>>122244818
Retard
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>>122243503
In the 90s maybe.
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>>122244893
That's how I react when I am at a loss about what people expect me to say.
It's such a retarded remark. "I saw you yesterday at the bakery."
Who the fuck cares if you saw me?
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I stopped taking this article seriously when he started shilling his own little animation project.
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>>122244948
Unlike Megatokyo at least the author seems to have a reason for it, being an English teacher in Japan.

Honestly this is kinda cute. Reminds me of that black gaijin's blog from way back when.
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>>122244930
So he really is an idiot. He gets into a commission-based business notorious for its absurd workload and absurd hours and then feels pissed off that he makes peanuts at the end of the month.
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>>122245018
cry me a river
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>>122244841
Holy fucking shit
Fucking murriburgers
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>>122243034

>work so hard you almost die
>work so hard you actually DO die
>somehow this produced some of the best animation of all time

That's fucking commitment.
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>>122244948

You thought Fred was capable of any original thought?
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>>122245005
No you're not wrong. Normalfags need small talk. It pains me as well especially when they're desperately trying to fill the silence with words.
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>>122244304
>Japanese for chewing up and spitting
Dude they are just bunch of racist workaholics. It's normal for a dude that come from outside to see this weird, for them it's just rutine.
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>>122245029
Jesus that's cute.
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This is why KyoAni are the best.

Other studio workers can have heart attacks making their shittily animated cartoons for all I care.
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There does seem a trend of westerners working on anime productions. Pretty sure dandy had a few french and americans even on it.
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>>122243034
>Henry Thurlow is sacrificing everything his for art.
What
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Is it really a suprise?
Do people really believe that the Japanese government makes those rules so they can work less hours than Americans?
Doesn't work here. Animators are slaves.
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>>122243034
I don't get it, is he trying to say that every place is like that?
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>>122243034
>It’s not a ‘tough’ industry… It’s an ‘illegally harsh’ industry.
>They just sit and work in complete silence and seem uninterested in changing this.
Holy shit, what a faggot. Get ouf of Japan right now, you weeb piece of shit. If you can't take the work pace, and call it illegal, then you don't deserve to be there.
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>>122245238
Then anime is dead. Fallen to SJW soon.
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>>122244737

You're definitely somewhere on the spectrum, Anon.

A conversation between normal people might go:
>Oh hey, I saw you at [PLACE] the other day.
Yeah, I was out doing [THING], why didn't you say hi?
>Oh, I was in a hurry because of [REASON]. I didn't know you liked [THING], I like [THING] too!
That's cool, maybe we can do [THING] together next time.
>That sounds good!

And that is how you get to know people and make friends.
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>>122245211
yep
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>>122245432
fuck off moron
>>>/v/
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>>122244853
it wasn't me anon.
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>>122245456
That example sounds like something I have never had in my entire life.
Shit, maybe I really was missing out back when I still had the opportunity to meet people on a regular basis.
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>>122245005

>I saw you yesterday at the bakery.
>Oh really? I'm sorry I didn't notice you at all. Where you in line behind me?

>I saw you yesterday at the bakery.
>Oh shit, did you also see how many sweets i bought there by any chance?

>I saw you yesterday at the bakery
>I fucking love their stuff. It's the best bakery in town!

>I saw you at the bakery yesterday.
>Oh really? I'm sorry I didn't notice you at all. Where you in line behind me?
>It's OK. And yes, I was in line behind.
>Actually I'm joking. I clearly saw you but tried my best to avoid talking to you. Fuck off!


It isn't that hard.
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>>122244258
America firebombed the shit out of Japan and then nuked them twice, It's really not surprising that the people hate them there. Really, you'd have to be a complete autist to even get upset over it.
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>>122245499
Fuck off tumblrshit.
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>>122244362
but shes not a weeb, she genuinely likes jp/asian culture and got a relevant degree and speaks the language fluently. Still I get what you mean.
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>>122245578
Do they teach you these things in school?
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>>122244302
waiting for someone more informed than me to reply to this.
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>>122245578
And? None of these hold any value at all. It's useless small talk that will be forgotten within the next 10 minutes. There isn't even any reason to say something. What's the point? What did either site gain from this? Might as well just stop and not talk about anything.
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>>122245456
god I hate normalfags
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He brought dishonor to the entire building the moment his disgusting gaijin ass set foot into it. Go back the FUCK your country, you have NO place working with true artists.
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>>122245164
>*tips fedora*
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>>122245665
If you're not underage, you're probably actually autistic.
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>>122245029
dun get it, what does faiya mean?
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>>122245579
They not only hate america, they are racist in general, it's that simple.
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>>122245704
nothing personnel...kid.
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>>122243034
umm I'm watching shirobako and none of this is correct...
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>>122245777
Engrish for "fired"
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>>122245767
How is not wanting to waste time talking about useless shit autistic. If anything it's not something that the normal person does so I'm actually quite happy with that.
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>>122245777
"Fired," but pronounced differently because they're Japanese.
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>>122245665
You gained minus one autism.

Also: if you can't enjoy a simple chat with an elderly lady because she saw you at the bakery, then you are just useless scum and should simply be gassed. There's absolutely no harm in it but of course cynical characters like you would fret over the merit. Cynical people know the price of everything but they don't know the worth of anything. Now go fucking eat shit. And I mean it literally.
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>>122245840
>>122245899
wow, buncha retarded kids
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Anime really was a mistake.
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>>122245999
I'm sure you can pronounce Japanese so well, too!
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>>122245704
>Go back the FUCK your country, you have NO place working with true artists.
You got to be joking, people who work there not because they want to make art, they work there because they need money, they just shut up and work.
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>>122245456
wow thanks!
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Why do weebs keep romanticising Japan when this is what awaits them? Mental illness?
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>>122245980
>don't know the worth of anything.

Please do tell me what exactly it is that you gain from this small talk?

>if you can't enjoy a simple chat with an elderly lady

I can you dumbass. In fact most people can but that doesn't change the fact that it's usually a useless fucking activity and I'm well aware of that.
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>>122244841
What does "cut" mean?
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>>122246076
It's a nice place to visit
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>>122245665
If you never make any attempt to talk to people except when you have to, you aren't building a relationship. They are trying to give you a chance to talk about yourself and to show they care about you. You should try reading "How to Win Friends and Influence People" if you want to study up on why people do things like this and how to respond.
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>>122246076
weebs and normies are two sides of the same coin. we should hate them both with equal fervor.
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>>122245579
They don't hate America though, they actually like it a lot more than other countries. They're just not open to foreigners. The only countries they really hate are China and Korea. The Philippines could be thrown in there too, but to a much lesser degree.
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>>122245999
>wow, japanese elementary schoolers don't speak english all that well
No shit.
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>>122246076
They literally think Japan is just like their chinese cartoons.
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>>122246112
It's what called "shot" in the west.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_%28filmmaking%29
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>>122246121
Had to ever heard about the joke of Satan and the guy who goes to hell for a day?
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This guy is a culture cuck.
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>>122246061
>they work there because they need money
the fact that they work there means they don't need the money.
If they wanted money than they would work as a janitor or at McDonald. else train for the kind of work that will provide an income.
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>>122246196
Haven't, no. Tell it!
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>>122246125
are you for real?

what is happening with this board?
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>>122246090
It doesn't matter since if we go at it this way then nothing has value in life as it is all pretty much meaningless.
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Japs are subhuman, what else is new?
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>>122246090

But you see inter-human relationships only from the aspect of profit! How should I explain the merit of not taking any interest to a Jew like you? You are just mentally not able to comprehend the answer. Why would there be any use for me in explaining it to you?
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