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Storytiming the comeback of our space husbando, Frieza

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Storytiming the comeback of our space husbando, Frieza
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>>121953781

Ok, you got my attention OP, please keep going. This is actually quite interesting so far, even if a bit fast passed
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Yes OP please continue
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>Toriyama's new artstyle

What's the point?
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>>121954019
>you stupid fuck

I'm pretty sure he didn't say that.
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>>121954489
>was in the movie poster
>dies in the oneshot
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>>121954583
>I knew about Beerus and Majin Buu ALL ALONG!

What is this, Bleach?
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>>121954769
In Bleach it would've been hinted at once in a poorly drawn panel, with tiny writing that becomes impossible to translate once the page is scanned, some 200 chapters ago.
Then this would later become a major plot point.
Either that, or Kubo accidentally blurts it in the magazine, but corrects it in the tank.
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>>121954638
>HOLY SHIT, you can train?
Wow, first villain that actually realises that he can TRAIN.
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>>121954941
Don't forget Agon. Built like a tank despite never lifting in his entire life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSmhZFbCy0
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>>121954638
>what the saiyan went and defeated an abomination so great even my father told me to get the fuck out if I ever met it
>oh well, I'll just train for four months and suddenly become stronger than the guy already several times stronger than me
>never mind the fact it took him years of constant training in the afterlife (against some of the strongest fuckers around) and achieving apotheosis to reach his current level of power!
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>>121955921
Frieza is a prodigy.
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I honestly didn't think it would this retarded.
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>>121956152
More like a mutant. Bizarrely, the Saiyan equivalent to Frieza is probably Broly. Goku is a prodigy, but he's not as far above Vegeta as Broly is above them both. Frieza is far above the other frost demons.
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>>121956649
>Broly
>above Goku
Even Cell is stronger than Brolly, he is weaker than a SSJ2.
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>>121956720
Wouldn't be a dbz thread without a dense comment like this.
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>>121953318
>Fuck it

I hate it when translators can't understand this is a children's comic
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>>121957016
>Goku defeats him with some help from Gohan and Vegeta
>Goku had no chance against Cell
Sure anon, Broly is strong.
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>>121954685
>four months
When will they learn?
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>>121954769

It will be weird if he didn't knew about it, if you think about it.
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>>121957131
Broly is maximum.
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>>121957131
It's an exercise in futility explaining the context of why the comment was moronic because it's so damn obvious why it was stupid that it implies they must be too stupid to comprehend why it was stupid to begin with, but I can't resist the urge to shame them...

The comment he responded to A) didn't even invite a comment about who has a higher power level, I mean wtf what piss poor reading comprehension, and on the topic the comment was actually about B) Broly's power growth was nearly exponential. Goku surpassed him because he's dead and his power level is now a static thing. Had he lived Goku could never overcome the absurd innate ability Broly had to scream himself to new heights. If Frieza can gain power even a fraction as fast as that, he'll be quite a threat very quickly.

I mean the logic that guy was using is how idiots end up thinking Gogeta is stronger than Vegito. That's not how it works.
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If I read this does it spoil the movie plot, like is it covering the movie plot entirely or does it lead up to it?
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>>121954019
>YOU FOOOOOOOOOL
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>>121953536

For fuck's sake, Pilaf.
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>>121957837
it's like the prologue
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>This art

Is toriyama even drawing this? If he is, it's pretty clear how little of a shit he gives.
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>>121953219

Now just think that when Frieza gets killed again in the movie, he'll go back to hell and relive that beatdown as well.

Frieza is suffering.
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>>121957959
At this rate Pilaf is becoming one of the biggest villains in the series.

>Brings back Piccolo
>Brings back Frieza
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>>121957092
Not all of them just Mangastream, they think they're being funny and cool and pander to westerners rather than trying to be faithful to the original Jap script
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>>121958046 see >>121953270
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>>121958063
>Dragon! I wish for a giant green humanoid bug!
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>>121953219
>His worse punishment is being trapped and forced to watch a bunch of cute critters.
Truly the most terrible of hells.
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>the guy who drew this was the same who "created" the Dragon Ball AF manga
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>>121954019
God damn it, niggastream.
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>>121954019

Are these translators twelve?
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>>121960318
Yes, and?
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>>121959854
I think one of them is majin buu
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Has there been any response on /a/ to this? What looks like Vegeta becoming a God?
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>>121956152
Oh come on , what the actual fuck

Frieza is seriously light years weaker than any saiyan at this point of the story. How can he train for 4 months and become more powerful than let's say... Ultimate gohan? Ss3 goku?
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>>121963421
Read the thread, numbnuts. It gets explained a dozen times every thread, including this one.
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>>121953582
>Pilaf collected all the dragon balls
>Collects all 7 Dragon Balls and revives Freeza in literally less than 10 pages
Stopped reading right there
DROPPED.
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>>121963421
Goku got 450 times stronger from when he left earth to when he fought Frieza.

Not even counting Super Saiyan.

450 times stronger. In two weeks.

Stop pretending it matters.
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>>121963343

In a previous thread, somebody suggested that maybe we're gonna see a reversal of Namek where it's Vegeta who has to step up and save everyone.
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>>121963421
Look at how much gotten and trunks powered up after just a little training.
Going from zero training to serious training for four months, in dbz, should net you a couple factors more power
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Why does this look so shitty? has toriyama started to get Alzheimer or something? I don't remember his lineart and anatomy being this shitty.
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>>121963840
This isn't Toriyama.

This is someone else. Dude who drew Dragonball AF. He's Toei's DB continuity guy.

>Toriyama gives so little shit Toei had to hire an autistic fan to keep track of continuity.
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>Be Toriyama
>Kid asks me for a new car
>Open bank account
>-400 Yen
>Time to cash in on DBZ again!
>Write some bullshit manga
>Sell it to JUMP for 1,000,000,000 Yen
>Spend more money on not getting Sqeunix to make a proper ChronoTrigger sequel.
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>>121963814
That'd be nice. There's no one who deserves to kill Frieza more than Vegeta.
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>>121963421
But is can he become stronger than Uchiha Madara?
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>>121963929
He's not hurting for money and never will be.
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>>121963958
Who? No, seriously, who? I assume from the name that it's a Naruto character. What's his special ninja power? Or is this a Bleach thing?
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>>121964245
Just don't reply.
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>>121964245
Its a terrible meme
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>>121963936
Well, there's Dende, whose family and race were murdered. and Krillin, who got blown up. I mean, Vegeta probably didn't even "like" his people/species. He'd use them as an army, but he didn't necessarily like them. He didn't care that Raditz died and killed Nappa himself.
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>>121964315
Oh, it's just a meme? I thought it was a character who had some power that made him immune to whatever power level others might have. I actually wasn't trying to bait.
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>>121964363
>>121964315
>>121964309
>>121964245
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>>121964449
Ah, thanks.
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>>121964323
You forget, vegetables was essentially a child soldier, who never had any real freedom until he died and was revived
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>>121964554
>You forget, vegetables was essentially a child soldier, who never had any real freedom until he died and was revived

Vegeta is from a warrior race. Being a 'child-soldier' is something honorable in Saiyan society. Only the dub tacks on the bullshit about Vegeta being traumatized because Freeza took him away from his father. In the original script, Vegeta not only does not give a shit about what happened to the Saiyans and what Freeza ultimately did to his race -- (in his own words, "they got what they deserved") Vegeta just hated the fact that Freeza used the Saiyans, who served him faithfully, and then threw them away like trash when he was done. If anything he was more pissed that his own pride as a warrior was completely shitted on by Freeza and there was nothing he could do about it. That's where the tears and begging Goku to defeat Freeza come from.

If we go by Vegeta's current characterization, it'd doubtful he'll give a shit about defeating Freeza and his 'big role' in the new film will be fighting one of the Gods of Destruction, from the other 11 universes, that's likely to show up in this film. That said, I'm sure Vegeta will get his licks in and save Goku, at some point, especially if rumors about Whis purposely sealing both Goku's and Vegeta's access to SSJ as a form of training.
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>>121954685
>people questioning this
>its like people don't remember that frieza doesn't have a clue what in the flying fuck time is.
>implying hes not gonna seal his own ass in some super version of the hyperbolic time chamber for the in time equivalent there of 100 years and show up 4 months later
theres ways this can actually make sense.
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>>121965071
>>implying hes not gonna seal his own ass in some super version of the hyperbolic time chamber for the in time equivalent there of 100 years and show up 4 months later

Considering how advanced the revival tanks Freeza's army has access to are, having a man-made equivalent of the Room of Space and Time isn't that far-fetched.

Even if someone wants to bullshit away as them reverse-engineering some of Dr. Gero/Dr. Briefs tech, from Earth, the story already gives you that blurb about them being able to deploy spy-bots all across the galaxy, so there you go.
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>>121953131
Oh niggerstream pick this up.
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>>121954489
>>121954440
>>121954395
>>121954354

Man, Frieza is such an ass. I love it.
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>>121953781
>They threw him in a trash can
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>>121953364
So, that's Admiral Thrawn?
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>>121953497
Jesus fucking Christ, when will the good guys stop being dumb as fuck.
They have a goddamn wish-granting device that is constantly targeted by villains and saved their asses several times. Just how thoughtless and lazy you have to be to NOT KEEP A FUCKING EYE ON IT.
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>>121953497
The sunglasses dude getting a speeding ticket can sense ki as well?
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>>121967139
It would be something easily done too.

For example Piccolo, who has nothing to do all day anyway. He could find of dragonball and keep it with him all times.

Done, the world is now safe.
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>>121956649
He's a mutant but that's what makes him think he's a prodigy, as a mutant he can reach high levels.
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>>121967340
It didn't sense the ki, he was just surprised that the sky darkened like every time someone summon Shenron

[Spoiler] Anyway, shouldn't people be used to that already? It happens like once per year [/spoiler]
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>>121967669
Both confused he with it and fucked the spoiler

Yeah, it's time to go to bed
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>>121967669
you know, by this point you got to wonder exactly how pissed off the dragon gets at this shit happening every single year.
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>>121960318

Which one? There's dozens of AF mangas. Are we talking about Youngjiji? His is the only AF manga worth a damn.
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So next parts when?
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>>121954583
Well shit, Freeza knew about Majin Buu, did Buu exist during the beginning of the universe or something?
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>>121955299
Yeah, but Agon was a humongous prick who treated almost everyone. even his own twin brother like shit, just like Freeza.
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>>121968052
>did Buu exist during the beginning of the universe or something?
Well, 5 Million Before Age.
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>>121967910
Manlets. They never learn.
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>>121968052
I thought that Buu was reacted by Babbadi's father and his father had imprisoned Buu.
And how old Babbadi's race lives for, it could have been a thousand years ago.
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>>121964449
Beerus would probably spank him into submission
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DUDE 4 MONTHS LMAO
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>>121954583
i guess the times he was in hell on Z never actually happened.
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>>121968178
>anime
>canon
Well, of course not.
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if vegeta dosent get to become a super sayian god and beat Frieza , i will get mad.
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>>121968250
He can't even become a Super Saiyan 3, of course he will job
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>>121953497
>krillian is a cope

i bet 18 likes him wearing the uniform.
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>>121968309

Why did he have to shave off his cool battle of gods hair?
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>>121955366
Every fucking time
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>>121954583
Actually Goku never actually defeated Buu,what kind of data do they even have?
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>Krillin somehow becomes Super Saiyan God before Vegeta.
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>>121968654
sure i got help from everyone but he did the final blow.
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>Piccolo gets rekt by a frieza goon
>a frieza goon is way stronger than frieza himself
Why wasn't he the commander of Frieza army again?
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>>121968775
That's like saying that krillin was stronger than Vegeta back in the sayan arc
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>>121954463
Is it? I was under the impression that was the artwork of Ooishi.
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>>121968775
Go home Goku, you're drunk.
Or tap that shota ass, whatever is canon now.
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>>121967924
Toyble or something.
This guy:
http://exhentai.org/tag/toyble
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>>121956649
>Broly training
Just think about it
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>>121969203

>one week later
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>>121969203
Guldo never trained and had a base powerlevel of 19000,stronger than sayan saga Vegeta.
If he trains for a year,he will be stronger than Bills,and become a time-stopping god of destruction.
Brace yourself for the next movie, Fukkatsu no G.
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>>121956649

>Frieza is far above the other frost demons.

We don't know that, the only other canon frost demon was King Cold and he was stronger than Frieza's final mecha form on his base form, or form 2 or whatever the fuck he was.

I guess it's possible that King Cold actually trained but we don't know that.
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>>121953668
so why wasnt it a problem bringing krillen back after frieza exploded him?
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>>121969343

I don't think a human can survive being blown to dust.

Frieza however can, apparently.
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>>121969291
Toriyama said that they were stronger than their race because they were mutants, and that their race wasn't particularly powerful anyway.
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>>121969343
Freeza's death happened too long ago apparently.
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>>121969343
>>121969367

Didn't they use to have a rule that the body has to be intact enough to fix it up? I dimly remember them trying to keep Krillin's body save when the died the first time.
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>>121969343
Retcons.
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Mangastream have got be the worst translators on earth
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>>121953270

Toriyama can't even do the manga anymore?
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>>121969489
[citation needed]
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>>121953781
Scooping up Frieza bits.
Way to make him threatening again guys.
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>frieza is revived in his mecha form
>somehow he is back at his original form after a healing bath
Did they even reread the script of this thing
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>>121953582
Why doesn't Pilaf just wish to be super-powerful so that he can defeat the Freeza minions?
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>>121969897
He never does movie/games adaptations, only original works, like Jaco.
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>>121970005
He could only become as powerful as Shenron.
And while his magical abilities are strong enough to bring back the dead, he is weaker than Nappa.
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>>121953730
Goddamnit Pilaf, first Demon King Piccolo, now this?
Why aren't you in prison anyway? Why doesn't Krillin arrest you?
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>>121970005
>>121970030
Then just wish for them to end up the edge of the universe or something.
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>>121953439
Hey WAIT A MINUTE
Why does he want to revive Freeza?
Shouldn't he be trying to revive King Cold? He's more powerful than Freeza and the guy actually in charge of the empire
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>>121970129

>King Cold

Who?
-Akira Toriyama
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>>121970129
>He's more powerful than Freeza
Nope.

Guidebooks say Cold is actually somewhat inferior to Frieza.
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>>121970208
Ah, my mistake then.
I guess Freeza couldn't be bothered rebeling and usurping his father then
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freeza brother is still cooler
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>>121953219
Why is he a Cyborg in Hell?
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>>121958063
Shenron is getting real tired of Pilaf's shit
>For fuck's sake YOU again? What do you want this time?
>I wish for you to revive Majin Buu!
>Fuck it, I don't even care anymore, keep digging your own grave
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>>121970278
So you're saying that Cooler is cooler?
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I am a huge dbz fan, but this is one asspull that may just be too much even for me. First off all, not only was freeza cut into pieces, he was also evaporated by a blast. Not only that, but it was established quite some time ago that you can only revive someone who has died a year ago. Along with that, you are going to tell me that freeza training for 4 months with no afterlife training or ( presumably) god training is going to close the gap from weak ssj1 level too ssj god where a ssjg can flick a ssj3 a knock him out? That may be the biggest power up in history.

I'm sorry but this is just dumb.
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>>121970323
Reviving Buu would be impossible, since Uub is his reincarnation.
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>>121953131
Freezer sucks his brother is cooler.
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>>121970342
>Not only that, but it was established quite some time ago that you can only revive someone who has died a year ago.
Prove it.
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>>121953582
>Forgetting Chaotzu literally had no body left and came back to life
Thanks Toriyama
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>>121970394
in dragonball when krillen and roshi die, bulma invents a cryo freezer that will keep there bodies fine for a year. At that time it was stated that they only have a year regardless since it wont bring them back afterwards.
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>>121970404
>so long ago
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>>121970404
Toriyama had no involvement other than character designs. The ideas all come from other people, I guarantee it
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I only read the manga and I still end feeling lost with the discussion going on in this thread
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>>121970246
Why should he? He's the sole, legitimate, heir, has a good relationship with his father, and is confident enough in his power, both personal and in terms of his position in the Empire, that to do something as childish as usurping his father would be a complete waste of time, and frankly embarrassing, really.
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>>121970565
That reminds me, we still haven't seen Freeza's mother
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>>121970607
Do we want to?
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>I'll train for 4 months
>This planet will blow up in 5 minutes.

I'm fairly sure Pan will be there to fight .
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>>121970607
>mother
They are probably all ermaphrodites that auto fertilize themselves like slugs.
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>>121970607

I'm pretty sure his "mother" would look just like king cold. I don't think i want to see her.

Actually, i bet King cold ate her head or something.
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>>121970404
But Kami put all of Chaotzu's pieces together in the afterlife
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>>121970607

West Kaioshin
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>>121970638
No, Freeza actually mentiones his mother in the manga
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>>121970607
We dont know how his race reproduces.
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>>121970607

Am I the only one who imagined Frieza with boobs?
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>>121970638
>>121970687
>http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Frieza's_mother
She exists, it's canon, and she must be as strong as pre-SS Goku at minimum
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>>121970724
> It should be mentioned that the plural form does not exist in Japanese and thus Frieza's mother is only mentioned in the English dub.
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>>121970734
>Frieza mentions his "parents"/"loving parents" to Goku on Namek in the manga,
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>>121970795
Can you even read more than half of the sentence? Plural form doesn't exist in japanese so it's ambiguos whether or not Frieza said "parent" or "parents".
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>>121970668

No he doesn't, he mentions his "parents" just means there's more than one.
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>>121970246
I always got the feeling Freeza was already the ruling authority and King Cool had simply stepped down.
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>>121954685
So, we have to wait 4 months for the next installment?
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>>121953536
>loli Mai

Was kind of hoping she would have stayed with Trunks or something.
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>>121970208
That's debatable
Nevertheless, Cold seemed more rational and was less of an asshole, whereas Freeza was the "emperor of evil".
Cold is more likely to help rebuild the empire and less likely to casually kill subordinates for no reason
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>>121970432
>>121970342
>but it was established quite some time ago that you can only revive someone who has died a year ago.
Not what happened. They couldn't bring them back because the Dragonballs had already been used recently and they couldn't bring them back before a year. They needed the freezer to bring the body while waiting.

The limitation of the resurrection was that the Earth dragon can only bring someone to life once.

Namek Dragon could do it several time.
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>>121970913
I was under the impression that chillybin went off to make his own empire if the middle of fuck you because he was bored with daddy's empire and wanted to have some fun.

And king eski was happy his pretty princess was off having fun, so long as he called papa back every now and then when he max'd out his sapce credit card buying dresses and shit.
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>>121970979
But then Krillin would have to arrest her
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>>121970635
When did those stopped being fanfiction to actually become canon. I thought Buu was an artificial creation made from scratch, one of a kind, not a race of being. What's the back-story.
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How will Frieza react when they tell him that the trunks he wants to beat up so badly is in a another fucking timeline
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>>121971052
He'll just try to kill young Trunks anyway
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>>121971074
But that doesn't make any sense?
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>>121963421
A human scientist managed to make artificial humans stronger than Freeza.
Power levels mean nothing
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>>121970979
She is just on her Knees.
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>>121971091
Exactly. it won't make any sense to him.
He sees Trunks, he's told that that's not future trunks, he won't understand and will just go "screw it, die anyway"
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>>121970635
Wow, what is that from?
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>>121971023

Majin Buu made himself a wife and somehow got offspring eventually creating the buu race.

I think that's the official story.
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>>121954769
Beerus knew Frieza so not really that surprising. Frieza was dictator over the entire glaxay for a long ass time man.
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Made more sense if he had some mystic power back home that can help him reach some new transformation. Instead of this shit.
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>>121971191
>Majin Buu made himself a wife
Did he mad a a gaz expell like for evil Buu and it turned out female because he wanted something to shank?

Or did just took a candy and changed it into a female boo?

Did Toryama ever set out limitations or rules for Buu's transformation ability?
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>>121963421
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>>121971380

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Buu

The first one.
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>Fuck fuck fuck fuck

It's like I'm really watching Animelabs!
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>>121963775
>two weeks
Jesus, it took like 2 years of actually watching that on Saturday mornings as a kid.
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>>121971130
No, they're still children. Pilaf still has his kinder uniform on.

Which brings the question, how did children find all the Dragon Balls? Is anyone aware that Pilaf and Company are children now? Why don't the Z Warriors just keep the Dragon Balls in a safe or something?
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>>121971635
>No, they're still children.
>still
She was first introduced as a young adult in DB. And I suspect the Fox was adult too already.
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>>121971635
>Why don't the Z Warriors just keep the Dragon Balls in a safe or something?
A better question is why Pilaf and gang aren't in jail. Isn't Krillin a policeman now?
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>>121967910
A saiyan warrior's Yamcha
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>>121971890
Isn't Pilaf a sort of king or anything? I don't think his jurisdiction expand up to Pilaf's territory.
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>>121972158

King of fags maybe.
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>>121953270
>Toyotarou
What, this shit isn't even by Toriyama.

The hell?
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>>121970692
I bet she has those orb bits as her boobs, like what Frieza's final form has.
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>>121954199
>healed with armor on
Sure thing.
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>>121971798
They wished to be young again prior to Battle of the Gods. Sherlong turned them into children, since they didn't clarify how young.

Or are you just fucking with me?
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>>121972290
Modesty isn't just a human invention.
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>>121971890
Can children get jailed in Japan? Also, Mai is friends with Trunks, so I guess they're like "let them go, it's not like they are much of a threat."
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>>121972339
Why weren't they jailed in the 20 years they weren't kids?
ESPECIALLY after awakening Demon Piccolo
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Why weren't Vegeta or Piccolo jailed?
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>>121972477
You think jail could hold them? They would either break free, or at best, dominate the whole prison with an iron fist.
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>>121972477
Vegeta and Piccolo are too powerful to hold.
Pilaf and crew have no excuse
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>>121972496
>>121972531
Hyperbolic Time Chamber
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>>121972477
The general public doesn't know about Vegeta's crimes.
No idea about Piccolo, but technically his crimes were done by his dad and all he really did was blow up a stadium
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>>121972597
>The general public doesn't know about Vegeta's crimes.
What about the time he went Majin and killed all those people?
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>>121971438
>http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Buu

i am dissapointed that she's no a "Ms.Pacman" caricature of Mr.Buu
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>>121972645

they just wished for everyone to forget about it, like they did with Buu.
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>>121968654

they browse 2chan
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Wait so if Frieza's power is stronger than God Goku and Bills, then what does that make Cooler?
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>>121973089
Lamer :^)
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>>121970432
I thought that was old the old Dragon, Dende changed the new Dragon.
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>>121973089
Bills is still stronger than SSJGGoku by a decent amount, Whis is also stronger than him.

Frieza should raise to a rank or so inbetween those two in power, or a bit above Bills, but he shouldn't be above Whis.

BIlls is being set up for his rematch with Goku, he shouldn't job so much until then. Unless he also plans to power the fuck up soon.
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>Freeza will be training

for whatever reason, i keep thinking freeza and songs by disturbed fit so well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVinwOpllQk
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>>121973089

Cooler looked like the kind of guy who would train, what with his constant "frieza is a bitch" talk and everything, so he probably can't get much stronger. It also makes him not canon.
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>>121973818
>looked like the kind of guy who would train
Didn't he say himself that he did to achieve the 5th form?
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>>121973849

I think so, but i haven't seen the movie in a million years so i don't really remember. But i think he did imply something about it.
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>>121973818
>It also makes him not canon.
Next you'll tell me that Broly isn't canon
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>>121973494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA

This will obviously play as he trains and it'll jump back and forth between him and Goku training.
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>>121973924

Don't be silly, of course Broly is canon. His power is maximum.
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I prefer this one
http://exhentai.org/g/686741/cd7c3db489/
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Am i the only one that hopes freezer doesnt get a new form but just some kind of aura to indicate that he became stronger?
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>>121974315

>vegeta loses even in fan fiction

You useless sack of saiyan shit.

>>121974574

Yes, and i think they already confirmed he gets a new form. I'm hoping it's similar to Cooler's just so that it becomes canon, Cooler's final form is 10/10
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Wasn't there a rule that Earth Dragon Balls couldn't revive someone after a year?
Also wouldn't Freiza's bits have decayed for being dead for 10+ years?
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>>121974574
But how are they gonna make merchandising out of that?
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>>121974574

Dude, this is a golden opportunity, a decades long "not even my final form"
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>>121953270
>The worlds greatest manga ever
In Japan, does "manga" only refer to Japanese comics or comics in general? In other words, are they calling Dragonball Z the greatest comic Japan ever produced, or are they telling the Americans and the French to get rekt?
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>>121954019
Fucking Mangastream
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>>121974574
He'll kill Beerus and become the new god of destruction.
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>>121970404
I guess Porunga was that much more powerful than Shenlong.

Oh who am I kidding?
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>>121974774
Manga means comics.
I remember that in Bakuman, an editor said that the most popular "manga" in the world is X-Men (which is inaccurate, either Batman or Spider-Man is).
So yes, they're telling America to get rekt
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>>121974698
Can't use earth balls for 1 year.
Balls are inert; that's the only rule concerning time as far as I'm aware.
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>>121974760
>a decade

It's been closer to 3 bro.
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It only truly dawned on me like halfway through reading this chapter that this isn't a fan fiction. This is actually canonically happening.


Not that I'm calling it good or bad it just feels really fucking weird knowing this plotline from years and years ago in my childhood is suddenly progressing again.
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>>121972290
>armor

Clearly it is carapace. The rest of the Frieza army minions just model their armor after it.
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>>121975164

Y-You're lying.
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>>121975318
Freezas defeat first aired in Japan in 1991. 24 year ago. I admit I was wrong it's technically closer to 2 decades but you get the point.
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>Make GT non-canon because it had way too many plot-holes
>Create new storyline with even more plot-holes

What's the purpose?
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>>121953131
So that retarded alien dwarf decide to revive their old dictator instead of keeping the power for himself?
Autism lvl over 9000
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>>121975505
MONEY
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I mean if you think about it he never once trained and his power level was only slightly below SSJ.

Thats ridiculous. Gohan, Goku and Vegeta trained for years and years to get that strong and then Goten and Trunks bullshit it out.

Freeza is more of a prodigy than these people apparently if you think about it.
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>>121975512
its called LOYALTY
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>>121975282

Well, i don't know if all those new and fancy dbz games are canon but i think in them they say that all that armor is actually bio armor made out of frieza people.

Well they refer specifically to that white shit Frieza was wearing after he broke the saiyan armor when he transforms the first time but you never know.
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>>121975590
More like he didn't want to deal with managing Freezers collapsing galactic empire
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>>121975590

10 bucks says Frieza shoots him.
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>>121975702
Likely dies to someone not Vegeta or Goku. I say Trunks or Goten since Gohan is king jobber.
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>>121964323
I don't know how you can compare those two shitters to Vegeta who had to work under the man he knew killed his father and his fucking planet.

Namek and Krillen still exist.
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>>121963814
>Cash-grab: the movie
>Having anyone but cash-grab: the protagonist save the day
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>>121975505
More like
>Make more Dragon Ball because money
>GT ends up not being canon because it was written by random Toei shitlords
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>>121969343
Porunga is a total bro.
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>>121975911
>Shitlords

>>>/tumblr/
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>>121969343
his corpse was in space
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>they had a Piccolo-tier soldier in the army
>went to earth to revive someone weaker than him
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>>121967910
>yamcha fags being this asspained

lets ignore all the times goku got his asskicked too
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>>121970342
>Not only that, but it was established quite some time ago that you can only revive someone who has died a year ago

that was for EVERYONE killed by frieza
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>>121970342
>I'm sorry but this is just dumb.
Just like the dragonball fanbase.
Hence why they're making it.
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>>121972433
how was anyone supposed to know? The only people who knew were king piccolo and his minions all of which who died
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>>121977376
>frieza performs a satanic ritual to summon warriors to aid him before invading earth
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>>121977376

>Satan himself works under Frieza now
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>>121974315

I've never read AF until now and boy, am i disappointed. I expected wacky crazy new shit, not DBZ all over again, i mean shit everything is traced over.
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>>121965224
he will train at 11 billion times gravity!!
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>>121957131
Yeah, he is
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>>121954638
>Time to start lifting
yay
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>>121977855
Looking at canon "hell" the best warrior he can summon is some faggy bear plushie.
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>>121978245

There's something i find amusing about the fact that Broly does keep getting stronger. I mean, shit, his power really is maximum. Every time they come up with a new power up for Saiyans Broly gets it too.

It's only a matter of time until he becomes the legendary super saiyan god.
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>>121970607
Frieza's race don't have genders.
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>>121978387
I dunno, Broly's SSJ3 and SSJ4 transformations made sense. Like, who the fuck is going to go and stand around broly so he can become super saiyan god?
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>>121956649
Not even that.

Broly was born with a Power Level of 10,000.

Goku was born with a Power Level of 1.

Frieza was born with a Power Level in the hundreds of millions!
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>>121978672

5 Brolys from 5 different universes.
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>>121954769
To be fair all you really heard from him was racial slurs about monkeys but if you owned the entire universe and lived for as long as him you would know some shit.

Can't wait till he fucks trunks in the face!
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>>121978672

Secret Satanic Saiyan Cultists
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>>121978721
Fucking shit that's scary. A circle of screaming maximums won't be stopped anytime soon.
While we're on the topic of Broly, how do you guys feel about him? /v/ and /vg/ seem to hate him, but I think that he's a pretty cool character given how ridiculous he is. Sure, he hasn't been developed like Cell or Frieza but I could see why he's so popular.
>>121978789
The number of Saiyans who survived seems to increase every year so I don't see why not.
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>>121978387
SSJ GOD BROLY!!!
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>>121979004
I don't care anybody non-canon. Broly fanwank is just making it worse for me.
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>>121979136
Why do you limit yourself to only canon characters?
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>>121979159
Because movie characters are shitty. Broly looked cool and the beatdown was satisying,but at the end he was a raging gorilla asspained about Goku crying too much. And whoever came up with the concept of broly made him so powerful that to beat him they had to pull out the stupidest asspulls in all three movies.
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>>121979004

Broly is so ridiculous it's almost funny, i can't say anything good about him but i just like seeing him blowing the heroes away with his balls.
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>>121979250
Well in all honesty DBZ isn't really the pinnacle of writing. You don't even like Turles or Cooler?
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>>121979312

I liked Cooler until he did the typical "i'm going to stand here and gloat while you obviously throw my own attack back at me" schtick.

Turles was great though.
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>>121954583
>did he become much more powerful
>is a scene in dbz at buu saga where everyone in hell is watching ssj3 goku vs kid buu, frieza was there
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>>121977376
Kind of stupid of that's Whis panicking in the bottom

Did he only establish this super ultimate greatest in the universe villains, so they'd lose in the next movie to establish someone else?
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>>121979433

That scene was only in the anime, not canon.
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>>121979433
>thinking anime is canon.
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>>121963929
>Toriyama
>-400 Yen
>Implying that he needs money THAT badly

Just Stop
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>>121979448
That's not Whis.

That's the new Frieza underling he already killed in the manga.
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>>121979448

i think that's the guy Frieza just blew out of his spaceship.
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>>121979448
that's not whis thats friezas autistic minion
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>>121979498
Didn't we see that same underling standing next to the Koala in different adverts? Seemed like he was one of the main guys.

Though I guess Frieza wouldn't let him back on board even if that blast didn't kill him there.
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>>121979582
Well come to think of it, of course the new movie will have to retread what happens here in the manga as well.
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>>121969753
>the first time
Second, buddy
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>takes goku and gohan a year in the time chamber to get from ssj to ssj2.
>frieza gets a powerup greater than ssj3 simply by training for 4 months.
>>
Wasn't Vegeta technically a Prodigy too, hitting 21K with minimal training
Why isn't he vastly superior to Goku then after training almost every single day after the Namek saga
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>>121979882
Apparently Toriyama is playing with the idea of making him stronger than Goku in this film
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>>121979882

Because he is a bitch, i mean, he is a prodigy, he pushed bills in ssj form didn't he?
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>>121979661

Frieza has autism.
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>>121979945
Still this whole 'I'm a Prodigy, so if I train for four months I can become the strongest being in the Universe' kinda is moot when Vegeta, who is also born elite/prodigy has train for around 10 years and is still third Banana after Goku and Mystic/Ultimate Gohan
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>>121979882
Because Toriyama is inconsistent.
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Why don't Goku and Vegeta just take dende and some senzu beans and kill the fuck out of each other and grind out Zenkai Boosts?
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>>121980041
Vegeta is the kind of prodigy that makes it on the highschool football team without even trying, but that's fitting to the level of his talent.

Freeza is the kind of prodigy that makes it to the olympics, and wins, without even trying. And sets records that don't get broken for 30 years. In multiple events.

It's a whole different scale, and there are different 'levels' of prodigism, you know.
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>>121980142
Because they don't enjoy having their organs blown up
If Tien was a sayan he'd probably do it,seeing his suicidal instincts
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>>121980284
Seems better than letting evil motherfuckers rock the earth constantly.
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>>121980142
zenkai stops working or being useful after you become a super saiyan additionally there are deminishing returns

only person to get a noticeable zenkai boost after freeza saga is Cell when he exploded, only cause it was his first
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>>121980041
Was Mystic/Ultimate Gohan even a thing it seems like he was dropped more or less the second he came in and he did tap into the weird super super saiyan thing.
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>>121980142
Better question
Why don't they got to Old Supreme Kai and have him unlock their potential?
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>>121980349
Ah, that makes sense. Do half saiyans get the same returns? I can't remember. It'd be nice if gohan stopped shitting the bed whenever he had a fight to win.
>>121980397
Isn't he dead?
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>>121980374
It was a thing against Super Buu and then never brought back
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>>121980326
>implying that either of them gives a shit
Remember when Goku let babidi summon Majin Buu and put the whole universe in danger because he was afraid to hurt the pride of his poor friend Vegeta by beating him with SSJ3?
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>>121979661
You forgot that after namek saga goku stepped into the chamber twice, once for cell and again for buu to train. That's at least 2 years of training without considering all the training inbetween arcs.

>frieza will pass all that in 4 months
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>>121980433
>Isn't he dead?
Yes, and he's still on the Supreme Kai planet with Kibito Kai
Why doesn't Kibito Kai ask Buu to swallow him and Kibito and defuse him like with Vegito
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>>121980349
I remember hearing that and calling bullshit but I guess it makes sense I still think Goku should have just kept multiplying kaioken till he hit times a billion
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>>121980450
You got me there. Vegeta still hasn't redeemed himself after that display of bitchassery. I sort of expect goku to do stupid shit because he was dropped on his head when he was a baby, but vegeta is just a shithead.
>>121980488
>>121980488
Why doesn't mystic gohan just fuse with Goku?
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Why does Goku never use Kaioken with SSJ?
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>>121980454
Goku didn't go into the Time Chamber in Buu saga
Goten and Trunks did after Goku went back to the Afterworld and left Piccolo to train them Fusion
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>>121980533
Why didn't goku just teach kaioken to all the humans?
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T PICCOLO LEARN KAIOKEN AND BE BROKEN AS UCK WITH HIS HEALING FACTOR????
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>>121980528
Because Normal fusion would have taken too long to master and Gohan SOMEHOW missed the potara earring despite now being one of the strongest/fastest beings in the Universe now.
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>>121980433
>>121980489
If that isn't a good enough reason, try this.

The zenkai boost requires actual danger. The reason it worked for Vegeta with Dense is because there was an actual chance Freeza could have caught on and killed them before he was healed. There was actual danger.

If it was just Goku and Vegeta doing that to each other at an otherwise peaceful time, it wouldn't work. No sense of urgency, no real danger.
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>>121980533
because SSJ is like a kioken only without the drawbacks, also Super sayan is more like an exponential boost and kaioken is multiplicative.
So it would be pointless.
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>>121980605
>WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T PICCOLO LEARN KAIOKEN AND BE BROKEN AS UCK WITH HIS HEALING FACTOR????
A. He spent zero time training on King Kai's planet
B. He isn't Wolverine, he can't just heal any wound, see for example when Freiza blew a hole in his chest, he needed Dende for that
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>>121980605
that wouda been pretty cool actually
fucking sepapukapakupukutsu beam cannon kaioken mode
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>>121980644
i dont know, i bet he did get a lot stronger when he recovered from the tenkaichi budokai, and only the last one was in real danger.
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>>121980723
Better yet
Tien using Paradox beam with Kaio Ken times 20 or some shit would have actually hurt Imperfect Cell
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>>121980716
thats fucking bull, the whole reason Cell had regeneration skill was because of piccollo, and he was broken as fuck.

I bet that was just piccolo dont having enough energy, if you remember in majin buu, when the kids droped him in stone form, he just rebuild himself
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>>121980716
Why didn't he just get a crash course
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>>121980716
Yeah but piccolo's body is pretty strong. And since he's constantly stronger than a normal Super Saiyan he should be a real threat if he can master Kaioken. It would have been a way to make a non saiyan Z fighter relevant.
>>121980770
It would have killed him. Tien was close to killing him without it.
>>
Can we all agree Goku and Bulma would have been a better couple?
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>>121980799
Cell was Hax tier in that apparently every cell in his body had a brain that can function with zero blood, which is the center of Piccolo's regeneration
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>people are calling Freezas race of aliens as "frost demons"

kill yourself.
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>>121980837
>Tien was close to killing him without it.
Come on anon,that scene was pretty cool,but Cell wasn't even hurt
>>
A guy of Dodoria/Zarbon's level could be one-shotted by Mr. Satan at the end of DBZ. Where did this red guy who can hurt Piccolo come from?

That would make red guy 100x more powerful than final form Frieza at the time of his death.

How will Frieza gain the power to not be a scrublord? It CAN'T be training alone.
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>>121980974
Really? I really remember Tien fucking Cell up with that shit.
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>>121980897
>>121980799

Cell was hax because he was perfect.
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>>121981042
me too pretty sure he got ass blasted
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yfw we get a new ginyu force
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>>121981042
>>121981085
>>121981042
>>121980974

Cell didn't get hurt, Tien was just pushing him down so he couldn't move. At least as far as i remember.
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>>121981127
considering he was flying at it full force and got knocked back down it probably should have
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>>121974894
Checked it for myself. I guess Porunga was just a bro.
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>>121980770
Kaioken distructodisks would have been pretty cool.
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>>121981288
why can't earth shenron be as based as porunga
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>>121981288
Porunga was that nigga. So much better than Shenron
>3 wishes
>Big balls so you know he get pussy
>Gives you free shit
>Buff as fuck, could probably go and slap shit if he wanted to
Porunga should just replace Shenron.
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>>121981298
>distructodisks
Why didn't Krillin use this ALL THE FUCKING TIME? The Destructo Disk is destructive regardless of power level. Unless an enemy can regenerate like Cell or Buu, a lucky strike is an instant kill or at least an incapacitation. And even then, having Cell or Buu waste time on regenerating could buy some of the stronger fighters much needed time.
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>>121970323

DBZA's exasperated, world-weary take on Shenron is perfect.

Garlic Jr wishes for immortality:

>Really? Wow. I can't remember the last time anybody actually nutted up and asked for that. Congrats! Can't wait to see how you fuck this one up.

Gohan and Krillin summon him in Tree of Might:

>I am the Eternal Dragon. Why have you summoned m--no. No. Not you again. HAS IT EVEN BEEN A YEAR?
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Why does Sorbet have a koala nose?
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>>121981415
True he could have always stolen the stolen version and controlled them frieza style
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>>121981487
He probably ate his mother's feces.
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>tagoma is as powerful as dodoria
>considered an "excellent warrior" by sorbet even though he's got grunts stronger than the androids
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>>121970121

But then there would be no story, anon.
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>>121981443
Open dead zone
Jump face first into dead zone
????
Profit
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>>121981575
>got grunts stronger than the androids
>revive a guy weaker than the androids and have him as your chief
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>>121981575
>even though he's got grunts stronger than the androids
U wot m8?
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>>121981575
You can't let yourself focus on the facts too much.

They needed somebody for Piccolo to fight.

Because everybody loves Piccolo, and he didn't get to do shit in the last movie.

Ergo, one of Freeza's goons needed to fight Piccolo.

However, Piccolo is now more powerful than Freeza originally was, by a factor of...well, several factors, let's say.

The main reason Freeza's goons brought Freeza back was because their empire was falling apart without his muscle, and one of their most high-ranking and powerful warriors was still only as strong as Dodoria or Zarbon.

Thus, this is completely ridiculous.

This is where you need to disengage the part of your brain that points these things out and accept that Piccolo getting to fight Monsieur Satan is fun, even if it makes no sense for several reasons.
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threadly reminder that frieza's new final form will be revealed this week
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>>121981828
How lazy can the authors even be
Just let them find Ginyu and make him fight Piccolo with some weird body-change hijinks
Hell even a goon with Guldo-like powers can make an interesting fight without being that stupid
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>reviving Freeza

FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
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>>121982001
money
Do you even have to ask?
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>>121982073
Why not wish Shenron to give money then?
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Best thing about DBZ was that they made food look mad tasty.
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>>121981415

He did try to decapitate perfect cell with it, the destructo disc just broke when it hit cell's neck.

Why he didn't decapitate Frieza we'll never know.
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>>121982329
>filler
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>>121981931
>>121981828
>>121981575

To be fair, we don't even know what's happening with that red demon dude. For all we know Frieza was all like "i met this dude in hell go get him for my army" and then he shoots one of his minions just so that he can recruit a demon.
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Future Gohan should be featured more. You would think that trunks would have wished everyone back with the namek balls.
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So when will the next parts be published?
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>>121982427
I was actually just coming to post something like this. Not your scenario specifically, but the fact that, well, we have no idea what Monsieur Satan's deal is. For all we know he's some sort of Anti-Namekian specialist the empire hired after their embarrassing defeat on Namek, who's only good against Namekians.

We have no idea. Not that this has ever stopped the internet, or 4chan in particular, from speculating aggressively, but, eh.
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>>121982416
No that was canon.
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>>121982001
Well think about it this way
In 50 or so years when Germany is in the financial shitter again they'll probably clone Hitler.
It would be a TERRIBLE idea because he'd kill not only Jews but Russians, Brits and American's. But they need someone who has brought them out of Financial scrutiny before
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So, the dragon ball canon is:

Original manga + Yo, Son Goku + Minus + Battle of Gods + this ?
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when do we get another chapter?
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WHAT DID THEY USE THE OTHER 2 WISHES FOR???
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I just realized
Wouldn't Freiza's bits have been destroyed when Kid Buu blew up the Earth?
If Not destroyed, at least launched away from the explosion's force?
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>>121983269
That's retarded, there's no need for me to be cloned, I already atoned for my sins :c
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>>121967139
Or since the Four Star Ball was his grandfather's Keepsake, Goku could like make it a family heirloom? Of course I assume Toriyama forgot Goku's connection to that ball since it was never brought up again.
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>>121983664
later this week
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>>121968654
Goku defeated Buu. What the fuck are you smoking? Crack?
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>>121983280
bardock episode too
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>>121984489
No. Dragon Ball Minus is Toriyama's version of the Bardock story, and directly contradicts the non-canon tv special.
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