Why are you manchildren from the 90s still hanging around on a kid's image board?
What if some scenes are digitally remastered like LoGH?
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I am excite because I assume Gainax will attempt to produce a BD like Gunbuster and not like what Sunrise has been doing to Gundam.
I don't think it does.
Cels don't matter after they've shot them. It's the reels of film that matter, and those were hopefully preserved enough to make a decent transfer. I don't believe companies when they say they don't have the materials anymore, they said that about Lodoss forever and then look what happened.
Probably for a good year or more. This is a hot fucking property that reaches beyond regular otakudom and it would be retarded to let the West have a BD out so soon.
Then i'm gonna assume the japenese release will have english subtitles (I've never imported before so i don't know if this is the norm or not). If so then buying this shit will be really tempting.
I highly doubt it. Most of the time JP releases have neither. You might wanna brush up on BD authoring and subtitle formats now so you can author add custom subs when the time comes
>get series cancelled
>make a shit anime on purpose
>throw in random biblical imagery you don't understand because it looks cool
>dadaist ending because you ran out of budget
Congratulations! You're a genius and everyone will suck your dick for the rest of time.
Would you rather have something like this?
It's the color scheme they largely used for Death and End of Evangelion. I like it.
Only a very small portion of the FILM of episode 16 was damaged. Those missing parts were completely recreated, even going back and filming some of the original cels again when they were making the Renewal remastering.
That's what makes it so tragic. Look at the crowd, the way all the detail is smudged into simple patterns and shapes. That was all deliberate by whatever psychotic mind was in charge of that travesty.
I just hope the Eva BDs are on-par with how the Gunbuster BDs turned out.
I don't know what's going on with Sword in the Stone. The Peter Pan BDs aren't bad at all. This isn't a great rip, but it's certainly not a colossal mess like those SitS caps are.
Looks a little soft, but that may be an effect of it being 16mm rather than an abundance of DNR.
Perhaps the worst part is, people who don't usually pay attention to what to them is a nuance in quality will get the idea that those BD releases ARE what is good. I guess it's like certain fashions, where even if something realistically looks totally shit or stupid, the fact that a brand name is associated with it negates that poor quality. Unfortunately that seems to be the mindset present in modern art in general, though.
It's still DVNR'd to a certain agree, but nowhere near as bad as that or Aristocats. Cinderella and Lady and the Tramp are mostly the same as PP there, and it's really not until the Fox and the Hound and Little Mermaid that they release BDs that don't look awful.
The Nadia BDs look pretty damn good.
DBZ is stuck in that mess -- Funimation has trained their mass market fans that 'cropped to 16:9 and filtered' is the way to go ever since the orange brick DVDs in 2007, so releases like the Levels (pic related) get canned because those same mass market people cry 'muh black bars' and '4:3 isn't HD', and and this >>121911181 becomes a best seller.
Yeah, it may just be that their older movies' film stock wasn't preserved very well.
At least their 90s movies that were mastered digitally like Aladdin managed to turn out great.
I just wish I could find good rips of the rest of the Disney lineup. It's sad how shitty so many rips of their BDs are. It's either some Italian rip, or fucking Yify garbage.
Nadia was a rarity for TV anime in that it was shot entirely on 35mm film. 35mm is usually reserved only for high-budget OVAs and movies.
I think Aniplex helped backed TTGL's dub and US release originally, so that's why. Same with Fate/Zero and KLK. I dunno what Gainax/Khara's involvment with Eva's original US release was like.
Yes. The OP and ED were shot with 35mm, since those were going to be played over and over. But the bulk of the show was just 16mm. So the BDs should have a graininess similar to the early episodes of Gunbuster.
The only things that were likely shot on 8mm would be super cheap stuff from the 60s. And then it was pretty much all 16mm until the mid-90s when budgets started going up, so shows like Escaflowne and Gundam Wing appear to be 35mm.
There was very, very little animation shot with 8mm at a professional level past 1965 in Japan. About the most famous animation you'd see on 8mm would be Gainax's Daicon shorts.
While we're here, can someone explain to me why a lot of early 2000's to around 2010 anime have terrible quality? It's mostly slice of life shows and stuff. For example, I'm watching the Aria series at the moment and the quality is pretty bad, was it and other shows never released on bluray
Densha Otoko was over a decade ago, along with Daicon
I'm pretty sure a lot of early digital anime was made specifically in NTSC format, i.e. FLCL or Initial D's first couple series. So the masters are in SD and there's nothing to be done. Someone correct me but i think GITS:SAC was the first digital TV anime shot in HD?
The early 2000s were seeing the beginning of mass-produced digitally-colored and rendered anime. Many artists and directors didn't know how to deal with it, so a lot of them have horrible, over saturated colors and very little detail.
There's also the fact that because they were mastered digitally at the standard of the time, 480p, there is no film to go back to for easy remastering to a high definition.
Even today it's surprisingly rare for digital shows to be mastered at 1920x1080, in fact 720p is still not always targeted.
Yeah, NTSC-J was generally used directly rather than mixed down to. It's a fucking horrendous workflow.
I actually bought this after somehow missing the reviews and holy shit was I mad that they butchered this.
The widescreen crop is unfortunate as well, but a lot of the time animated films were done in 4:3 but matted for theatrical showings. In that sense cropping it isn't entirely incorrect, but for the prices Disney charges they should offer both aspect ratios.
Well, the theaters at the time of SitS release were still playing movies in 4:3. It wasn't until the late 40s that wide screen really started to become popular and it really exploded in the 50s as a must-have feature for cinemas, since it was something televisions of the time couldn't replicate.
To me, if something was produced in 4:3, I don't care about the intended aspect for viewing, I want as much image as I can get. Besides, animators labored to draw that stuff, so cutting it out is just an insult to their work.
Thanks for the replies, I enjoy these informative threads. It's a shame that so many shows from the last 15 years will never be available to us above 480p. It's also a shame that few TV anime even now are made in natural 1080, I can name nyaruko-san because IIRC it was the first, but not much else.
Yeah. At least we're getting more and more fantastic BD remasterings of older, film-shot anime. Like Lodoss here, what went from this...
Delicious top tier BD releases are even better when you know about the tech behind them.
Only like $17, so it could have been worse.
I actually agree, but that's the reasoning I've heard for cropping. Snow White looks pretty damn good and they even included a special pillarbox option with it.
While not as staggering, here's a comparison of the 1999 DBZ DVD and Kai. I'm really hoping the DB franchise as a whole gets a decent BD release soon, quality like Kai with less DNR would be absolutely gorgeous.
>hating on film grain
You go fuck yourself, kid.
>Deed getting mad at not receiving enough attention
Incidentally, here's that shot of Pirotess from the DVD. Not nearly as miscolored as the shot of Deedlit.
While I'm at it, here's some Outlaw Star.
It got even worse in Welcome to Lodoss Island, here's a shot of Deedlit in it.
Most anime DVDs of the time were sourced from generational digibeta tapes. Digibeta tapes had a habit of looking like shit.
The DVD was likely made from a BetaMax, or DigiBeta tape. They were horrible at maintaining good quality and color consistency. Which is why remastering, that is going back to the master film reels, started to become a thing with DVDs. That's carried over even better with the high-definition capabilities of Blu-Ray.
Ugh. God I hated Chronicles of the Heroic Knight.
Yeah, the OP is forever God-tier, but the show itself was a colossal mess. By the end, the best part about it was the Lodoss Island shorts
>shot in standard def
NGE was shot on film, meaning the resolution is infinite. At certain resolutions you'll stop seeing a significant increase in detail , e.g. 1080p is about the highest 16mm will yield
Outlaw Star is interesting because they actually remastered it before on DVD. Though that's R1 on the left.
Yeah, the DVD comparisons are from the crappy old OS DVDs I bought years before they made the remastering.
It didn't suck as much as when I bought the Berserk Box of War set for what I thought was a bargain(55 bucks, when it usually went for nearly 80 at the time) and literally two weeks later, the remastered DVD was announced. Which would sell for under 40 dollars.
Wasn't this thread supposed to be about Eva BDs?
I just hope RX782 isn't too busy to encode them when they come out.
Has anyone ever put together a master list of which old anime blu-rays are good and which are shit? I feel like for every Lodoss War and Gunbuster, there's an Initial D or Sailor Moon to counter it.
There was a pastebin listing old film-shot anime that had come out or was announced to come out on BD. But I don't think it was organized to the point of listing which ones had good quality or not.