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Why is Nips so interested having Christians in anime? I rarely see other religions in anime, other than Christians.
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>>121874924
Christian philosophy, best philosophy
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>>121874924
Christianity stronk
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Because other religion didn't found any mission school.
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>>121874936
>implying

>In Zoroastrian Middle Persian (Pahlavi) texts, the term xwēdōdah (Av. xᵛaētuuadaθa) is said to refer to marital unions of father and daughter, mother and son, or brother and sister (next-of-kin or close-kin marriage, nuclear family incest), and to be one of the most pious actions possible. The models for these unions were found in the Zoroastrian cosmogony. The meaning and function of the Avestan term is not clear from the contexts.
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Do you just purposely ignore all the shinto and buddhist stuff?
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>>121874924
The most pressing question is how the fuck do they get it so wrong every time
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>>121875117
Because they don't read the bible, they only care how priests looks cool with supernatural ability.
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Don't even try to pretend having a low powerlevel just to start this blatant religion thread.
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>>121874924
Because it's cool.
That's it,really.
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>there will never be anime about Islamic hashashins
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Nuns, magic and Satan
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>>121875117
evangelion had it quite good actually.
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>>121875069
If Zoroastrianism ever makes a comeback Otaku will be lining up to convert, and then promptly forced to commit sudoku by relatives.
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>>121874924
The Japanese are fascinated by Catholicism. I don't know exactly why. You do see typical Japanese religion in anime frequently though, for obvious reasons.
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>>121874924
>Christians
The way they portray them makes them look like a third rate sect, not actual Christians.
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>>121875239
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>>121874924
Because Christianity is an exotic religion to them but one they've heard of and know a bit about.

>>121875153
You see the same thing in Western movies where you have Shaolin monks who go around kicking ass.
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>>121874924
>Not taoism
Check again
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>>121876893
>>taoism
You mean Shinto faggot
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Its alien to them
heck they think the pope has a army of priests with mental powers
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>>121877531
Wait, he doesn't?
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Lots of cool lore and nomenclature. Also less likely to murder people.
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>>121874924
That's a good question. Most animoo I've seen have Christian wedding ceremonies and chapels. How come these guys do this one sacrament, but not the other six? Do they even marry the traditional way? Or is it that bridal gowns look better on the girls?
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>>121877129
>Implying that onmyoudo isn't culturally significant

Go read a book.
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>>121877709

Japanese like Christian weddings because they're so much cheaper than traditional ones. Sometimes they won't even have the wedding, just sign in the registry office and then pose for photos in a chapel.
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>>121877821
>cheaper
Literally how.
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>>121877709
They do still have traditional style weddings (shinzen shiki). I saw a one myself when I was at Shinto shrine as a tourist.

But Christian style is the most popular.
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>>121874924
Outside of chuuni fantasies and yuri schools I rarely see Christians in anime
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>>121875472
what? im iranian and zoroastrian is essentially our culture etc besides that incest shit

what makes you think zoroastrian is dead? in fact its so widespread to rest of the world that our new year tradition (newroz) inspired many other cultures to light up a huge fire and celebrate around it
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>>121877709
Having a huge white wedding dress is romantic. The parts about Christianity that the Japanese like is the whole purity-ideal.

As the saying goes, the Japanese are born Shinto, marry Christian, die Buddhist.
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huh I thought this was going to be an Onii-sama thread by going by the op pic
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>religion
Literally chuuni shit.
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>>121875117
I have never, not once, seen American shows get Japan or any Asian countries right. Pot and Kettle, little man.
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>>121874924
You know how when western animators and movie directors know absolutely nothing about East Asia they just plaster the yinyang symbol over everything to give it an "Eastern" feel? The same applies to Japan, anime and crucifixes. Most Japanese know nothing about Jesus and just put a crucifix on everything because it looks Western and "cool".
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It's exotic
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>>121878249
>religion
>chuuni
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>>121878249
only if its like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVZczLuoJoU
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>>121877884
Ceremonial kimonos use expensive materials and can't be made by machine
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>>121879579
is renting them not an option?
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>>121879516
>fedora meme
>>>/reddit/
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>>121875239
>there will never be an anime set in the height of the Abbasid Caliphate, Moorish Spain, or the Ottoman Empire
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>>121878012
>>121878249

samefag
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>>121874924
*Catholics
You rarely see any other denominations, at most they are there as opposition/contrast to catholicism.
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>>121879802
Sorry but no
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>>121879729
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>>121875562
Catholicism was so popular that it had to be banned because nobles feared a peasant uprising.
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Why is it always catholics and sometimes protestants?

Wheres muh coptic christians? muh mormon assassins? muh russian orthodox crazy people?
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>>121879827
well catholicism is by far the most famous denominations of Christianity or at least the one that has the coolest things.
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>>121879953
Russians are not that rare and no one gives a shit about mormons
coptic christians sound cool
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>>121879953
>Why is it always catholics
Let's see...
>Largest Christian demonimation by followers
>Most influential Christian denomination in terms of European history
>Most powerful Christian denomination in terms of present day political power (the papacy)
>Most iconic Christian denomination (dat artwork)
Gee, I wonder why the Japanese turn to Catholocism when choosing to depict Christianity.

>and sometimes protestants
Second largest "denomination" and America is protestant, we all know how much Nips love America.

>Wheres muh coptic christians? muh mormon assassins? muh russian orthodox crazy people?
Too small and unimportant. Depicting Cops or Russian Orthodox churches would require a very specific setting. Not that I'd oppose it, an anime taking place in Tsarist Russia sounds pretty neat.
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>>121879861
Continue to post your fedora meme all you want, all it shows is that you're from reddit and should fuck off.
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>>121879953
There was a secret catholic sect during the shogunate so catholicism is as japanese as shinto or buddhism.
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>>121879953
Here.
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>>121880110

>Christ-chan
>reddit

Be more new.
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>>121880110
someone post the "Yare yare daze" one
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>>121879953
Catholics have the most interesting/engrossing history in both actuality and fiction as you can have a lot of settings that deal with the church.
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>>121880151
Are you also going to post trollface? The origin is irrelevant, it's popular with normalfags and any faggot who posts it should fuck off.
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>>121880154
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>there will never be a slice of life anime about Hasidic Jews
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>>121879953
Catholics have really esoteric shit, the Orthodox do as well, Protestants are fucking boring
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>>121880245
>>121880154
Nice, bringing out the /v/tier flavoured ones.
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>>121880100
>dat pic
>no clerical collar
you dun goofed nips
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>>121880151
>Christ-chan

are you implying jesus was a woman?

you might as well say the Prophet, peace be upon him, Muhammad was a lesbian, that's how absurd that is.
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>>121880256
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>>121879953

Catholic Christians have survived in Japan in Kyushu for more than 400 years. Samurai Champloo is about them. Just remember the skull with the secret cross in the eye that the heroine is wearing around.
Catholicism is somewhat a part of japanese history. Nowadays it's a religion that has a big public presence despite it's marginal existence when counting followers.
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>>121880110
correct me if im wrong but wasn't the fedora thing making fun of reddit?
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>No judaism representation in anime

oy vey
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>>121880286
>“No,” said Peter, “you shall never wash my feet.”
>Jesus answered, “Unless I wash you, you have no part with me.”
Is Jesus is the first recorded foot fag?
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>>121875239
>there will neer be an anime following Ghengis Khan as he slaughters millions of muslim , and only leaves their cult alive so he has more women to rape

Oh Ghengis, you could have saved the world so much trouble if you didnt support freedom of religion.
>Muslims are currently destroying ancient texts and architecture in Syria and Iraq
Islam pls just die already. Atleast Christians made some pretty statues to replace the shit they destroyed.
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>>121880110
keep it up

maybe you will fit in eventually
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>>121880286
I would totally watch a yuri where Jesus and Muhammad are OTP
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>>121874924
Same reason with why west have a fascination with asian culture and mysticism. They just think its cool.

But of you want a more concrete answer, I can think of two things:

First, Christians were persecuted in Japan. I'd talk about it, but just go read about the history of Christianity in Japan on wikipedia. Christians were depicted as super sekrit badass clubs for the most hardcore of people. There isba degree of historical admiration and fascination with the determination and martyrhood of these Japanese Christians.

Second, at the dawn of the 20th Century many foreigners that brought Japan to the modern age were Christians. They did alot of historically significant stuff in Japan. In fact, even today, many high institutions and top universities in Japan are or at least include Christian practice. Thus, Christianity is often correlated with refinedness and being well bred in general. This is why you see rich kid private schools in anime or manga having Christian or at least Christian inspired aspects.
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>>121880349
There was the accountant guy in Valverave
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>>121880286

You are muslim? I have nothing against you. You atleast understand the importance of faith. Thought you were an atheshit.
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>>121874924

Christianity was the first culturally accepted western religion in Japan preached by the Jesuit missionaries. It is to say the matchlock musket would have never existed in the Sengoku period without them. As Japan westernized, so did their religious traditions in those territories.
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Because Jesus is moe.
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Isn't EVA inspired by Catholcism
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>>121880364
>3rd world countries bitch and moan for Britain to give them back their antiquities
>They do and they have a shitty revolution and break them all
A lesson in why they can't have nice things
>>121880450
>It is to say the matchlock musket would have never existed in the Sengoku period without them
What you mean missionaries? Because that's bullshit, it was just some Portugese dicks that got lost and ended up at Tanegashima, sold off their guns and then got them copied by some swordsmith from Satsuma
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>>121877129
I think he meant the whole dream ending and butterfly thing (Cowboy Bebop, Joshiraku etc.), that comes from Taoism.

http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/butter.htm
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>>121880395
The things they did to survive in these days of Christian persecution is admirable, actually.
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>>121880349

>Drink this blood from a baby I collected after his circumsicion, goy.
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>>121880580
How important was muskets to the Sengoku wars? I thought the animes portrait them more as mere curiosities?
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>>121880641
Well let's put it this way, there were more guns in Japan then all of Europe during the Sengoku Jidai
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>>121880688
What. How?
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>>121880641
>How important was muskets to the Sengoku wars?

Takeda Shingen was seen as one of the strongest warlord because of his Gun complany mounted on horses

Oda Nobunaga befriended the Jesuits just to become the number one buyer of firearms
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>>121880688
citation needed
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>>121880395
Wasn't that "Boys be ambitious!" guy also a Christian gaijin?
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>>121880688
And they say the Samurai hated guns.
Fucking liars.
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>>121876893
>Not Buddhism
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>>121880778
Katanas are actually one of the worst weapons to use in the sengoku era
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>>121880778
Now you are tempting me to play Conquistors!
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>>121880741
That is pretty neat. Too bad I can't do that in Rance VII and make them badass.
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>>121880777
William Clark? Yes. He was.

He was one of the key persons that lead to Japan's modernization. He was also one of the first ever weaboos.
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>>121880714
Contrary to what Edo era shit will tell you, honour was very much secondary to winning. The Shimazu, Oda, Takeda and Date fucking loved guns.
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>>121874924
because its the most exotic to them, just like how we find other cultures exotic too.

too bad almost none of them project it right in their media. only few exceptions I can think of is bayonetta and that PS2 game
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>>121880896
Thanks anon!
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>>121874924
Because Japs love Europs.
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>>121880845
But Yuzu is the best cheese unit in the game
>Instant kill on Shimazu faggot with 4000 troops
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>>121880957
Chance of success is so low it is not reliable.
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>>121880580
Oh it gets better.
https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2013/04/12/come-back-colonialism/#heart-of-darkness

>People still throw money at Africa
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>>121880750
The estimate varies, but it's generally agreed the Japs adopted the firearm at a rate much faster than Europe did, only to have that stagnate when Ieyasus son decided seclusion was a cool idea
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>>121880806
Katana are really actually one of the worst weapons to use at all since most of the time it is employed by an unskilled hand, one that might easily drop and thus lose it forever due to it cutting its way through the earth's crust and mantle as if they were warm butter.
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>>121881025
hehe
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>>121880806
They had uses, ship based and interior combat really favoured it, there's a reason they phased out the Tachi after the Mongols
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>>121874924

Because Japan is christian.
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>>121874924
Because Japan has a 500 year old history with Christianity.

There's also tons and tons of Buddhist and Shinto religious themes, characters, and imagery in anime, far more than Christian.
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>>121881084
The Shoni are such faggots, why aren't you playing a REAL representation of Sengoku warfare?
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>>121880912
SMT is pretty accurate.
They also show YHWH pretty accutately too. (An abusive parent who wonders why his children dislike him)
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>>121881005
>Goats illegally held in prison
Holy fucking shit
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>>121875342
>evangelion had it quite good actually.

That's because there were no christians in evangelion, dumbass. It had some christian symbolism and that's it.
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>>121874924
Japonese are smart and they have not been subverted yet so they can easily recognise Jesus Christ as our saviour.
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>>121874924

Killing gaijin gods is fun and way to take it back at the christian americans who nuked them.
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>>121881162

Say that to my face, nigger.
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>>121875342
Not really, Longinus has nothing to do with angels and the crosses are just there because DEEP
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>>121881351
No, I haven't seen any vegetarian Tyrranosaurs Rexs in the garden of Eden so it obviously isn't directed at America
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>>121881162
>>121881360
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>>121874924
because Jesus is weeb?
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>>121881383
The symbolism is just there for the cool factor but most of it is occult and esoteric in nature (Qabbalah, Enochian, etc.). Not that Japs know the difference since it's all the same to them.
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>>121881477

I never had the expansion and wrecked so many imperial armies with my sengoku jidai squad.
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>>121881551
I... what.
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>>121881477
But the Nagaoka, who were a pro-Shogunate faction had the most gatling guns in Japan, what are you even trying to say here?
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>>121880641
>How important was muskets to the Sengoku wars?

Pretty fucking important. Guess who thought that?
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>>121881614
Well there is a pretty big gap in the shit that happens in the New Testament, India claims he went there, China claims he went there, no one knows. The part about dying in Japan is pretty out there though
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>>121878019
Yet you let mudslime control your government.
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>>121881680
Where is the gap? You mean his childhood?
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>>121880996
It's pretty damn reliable, get enough money for her to have about 2000 troops and even if she dosen't roll it you still fuck them up really bad
>>121881759
Childhood is covered in the wonderful infant testament
>Jesus, stop doing magic
>YOU AREN'T MY REAL DAD!
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>>121881551
What the fuck
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>>121881680
There are even claims he went to some Buddhist temple or something, and that Buddhism influenced Christianity. The more likely story is that both Buddhism and Christianity have a common inspiration. Alexander the Great spread Hellenism to the frontiers of india, bringing Hellenic influences into Buddhism, and the earliest Church Fathers of Christianity incorporated a lot of Greek thought into their writings.
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>>121881816
Now I want to play Rance VII again.

And use muskets more.
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>>121881759
I think I remember hearing that there was a gap from about the time he was twelve to when he was thirty-three or something.
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>>121881551
Oh please that isn't even bad. The chinese had a civil war surpassing the great war in destruction because one guy thought he was Jesus' brother.
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>>121881882
The Heavenly Fist was hilarious.

They are basically the Chinese ISIS. Even down to brutal communistic laws enforced by brutal punishments.
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>>121881882
>surpassing the war to end all wars
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Most of the time they get things wrong, but sometimes they do an acceptable job. In their own way.

https://vndb.org/v9205
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>>121881851
Every organized religion on Earth has a common foundation from Indo-European origins in India, which is why people say Hinduism is the oldest even though techinically ancestor worship ala Shinto and its commonalities is older
>>121881860
Yuzu is really the only decent Musket, it's more tolerable when you play in freemode where officers with bullshit stats are limited. You can of course pay out the arse for huge troop numbers and really fuck generic units up with a typical musket unit with 9 attack
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>>121878019
Whats amazing is that most people, specifically Christians and those of other Abrahamic religions, have no idea what Zoroastrianism is, or how it influenced nearly every other western religion with its imagery and duality concepts.

It might not be a dead religion, but its certainly a forgotten one. Especially since most of its practitioners are, like you, Iranian or close to it, and people refuse to associate that part of the world with anything but Islam.
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>>121881882
Taiping rebellion? That shit actually pretty dank. But again it's basically Han people rebellion who wanted depose Manchu rulership while installing christian as state religion.
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>>121882076
>duality concepts.
Not really applicable, Gnosticism lost to the Trinity, Satan is nothing like what he is in popular culture according to the Bible
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>>121875075
/Thread
Also there's more Hindu stuff than Christianity in anime, but in Japanese Culture a lot of it is syncretized with Buddhism, so it's harder to spot.

The only major religions left out of anime are Judaism and Islam. The first because Jews are as rare as unicorns in the far east, and the latter because they don't want their heads chopped off due to accidental offense.
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>>121882076
It's dead because the Byzantines beat the ever loving shit out of the persians and destroyed their main holy site after which Muhammad gave the killing blow to that religion and over-ran their empire.
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>>121875075
It's more likely that he just doesn't recognize most of it as well as christianity.
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>>121882174
It would be cool to see more Jews in anime. I remember that one Israeli in DtB
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>>121882166
Maybe in Catholicism, most protestant denominations give nothing more than lip-service to the "trinity" and couldnt tell you what the holy spirit is supposed to be if you asked them.

All they care about is Jesus being the nice guy you go through to get in good with his dad, who was apparently quite the asshole before he had a kid and mellowed out.

But the christian concepts of angels and demons, heaven and hell, do have roots in Zoroaster
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>>121882433
They were mentioned in Muv-Luv material as well, Japan just dosen't care much about them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Ghetto
>>121882506
Heaven and Hell in Chritsianity are far more heavily based on Greek myth with Cocytus and Inferno, I mean Zoroastrians are fucking insane with that whole honey and boats thing
>most protestant denominations give nothing more than lip-service to the "trinity"
That's because they're heretics
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Christianity, especially the variety that visited Japan during early contact, projects power like no other religion. It's mysterious, labyrinthine, and with seemingly endless wealth or reach. They build massive stone buildings designed to intimidate everyone in its shadow filled with imagery of heaven and hell, and they're staffed by strange priests who perform alien rituals.

They're like some sort of Illuminati.
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>>121882433
Jews just get censored away from anime if they happen to appear in them in any way controversially. Fucking Benny from Black Lagoon is the extent of jewishness in anime. If you try to go Angel Cop it'll all get erased as hard as it can be erased.
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