literally the only reason mechas would even be considered

>>121292306
Minovsky particles.

>>121292306
Yes, exactly.
Only that the Evangelios aren't really mechas as such anyway.
What's the point of this thread again?

>>121292306

But anon, they used clones of God to kill angels, not mechas

>>121292371
Clones of Angels, nigga.

What the fuck is the AT Field by the way? The invisible magic force keeping everyone from becoming tang? Angels and Evas just have super duper strong ones?

>>121292548
>The invisible magic force keeping everyone from becoming tang?
Basically, yeah.
It's what separates human minds from each other.

>>121292621
aka, ego.

>>121292548
AT fields are what makes everyone an individual. The reason everyone becomes tang when their fields are gone is because they loose their individuality.

The way the Angels and Eva use it is a physical projection of that to physically protect themselves.

>>121292355
This.
Also Mobile suits would make a lot of sense in the future for rescue operations, traveling short distances in space, and intimidation factor.

>>121292548

Nigga, I hope you jest. Angels are the children of the god Adam. Every Eva except Unit-01 is a clone of Adam. Unit-01 is a clone of the god Lilith. Nice try though grouping their children as what the Evas are cloned from. And AT fields are the things that separate the minds of people. In angels, they separate physically.

Mechas are a self-fufilling prophecy you know.

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>>121292548
>What the fuck is the AT Field by the way?
Zero Point Energy combined with the ego barrier that divides human minds and prevents tanging.

It's also apparently what we're pushing off of with this engine:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/02/more-emdrive-experiment-information.html

>2015
>0
>1
>5

>>121292701
>because they loose their individuality
*and can no longer keep their form.

>>121292739
Mecha would be viable in space simply because when you're out in space shape means fuck all and you can pretty much make any vehicle any shape.

Small mecha like Knightmare Frames and ATs from VOTOMS would be viable as well, but in a role of heavy infantry, not as vehicles.

>>121292759
>Adam and Lilith
>Gods
You what mate. They're aliens, and impressively powerful, but not divine in any actual sense.

>>121292829
>>121292739
Mobile Suits specifically work in space because of the AMBAC system but like Minovsky Particles only I seem to get a boner from explaining it.

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>>121292901
They're gods just as much as the Founders are gods in DS9.

Actually my headcanon is that the Founders are the children of Adam from the Gamma Quadrant, much how Humanity are the children of Lilith.
>tang ocean
>obsessed with order
>not big on free choice
>god complexes
>AT field voodoo
>can survive in space

>>121292901

Please kill yourself

Doesn't AT stand for Anti-Terror though?

>>121292355
There are too many instances where the Gundam head gets blown off and the suit is still perfectly functional. Like literally what's the point of making it human shaped then, just install the sensors somewhere else.

>>121293069
Mobile Suits have secondary cameras mounted on the chest. They're obviously not as effective as the shielded head-mounted ones but are useful when the situation forces it.

Why the Zekes never designed a rear-facing camera I'll never understand, the Feddies had it from the start.

>>121293036
A god would be the combination of lilith and adam

>>121293036
>headcanon


Fanfiction.net is that way ---->

>>121293047
did you use any sort of anime based wiki for that info?

>>121293047
Absolute Terror.

>>121293069
Redundancy, or secondary scanners. Possibly because head sensors are more precise.

Which kind of mechas are you talking about?

EVAs are not mechas you dummy anon.

>literally

HAHAHAHAHA, literally the evangaylion fanbase :3

Gundams just have shit designs though.

>>121293212
biomech is mecha

>>121293195
No, just my vague recollections. I haven't watched the original series in years and was pretty wasted while watching 1.11, 2.22 and 3.0 the past Spring.

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>>121293212

>>121292701
>loose
Are you fucking kidding me?

Does "Absolute Terror" mean to imply the shields PROTECT us from absolute terror (ie tanging) or that they're the reason for absolute terror?

>>121292826
Wait, the AT Field actually has a scientific inspiration?

>>121293263
pretty sure it's engrish

>>121293253
Calm down son, I hit an extra "o" by accident.

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>>121293212
Don't talk shit about my mechafu

>>121293271
The AT field is basically macroscale quantum voodoo, and the EmDrive / Q-thruster is pushing against virtual particles (a quantum-scale phenomenon) to get macro-scale thrust and "free energy" once you get over 2.5km/s velocity.

>>121293323
Ok, gundams are not shit, just pure rule of cool.

>>121293238
>biomech is mecha
And I am a human sized mecha now, wow!

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>>121293444
>And I am a human sized mecha now, wow!
Trips confirm it. BRB buying Evangelion costume.

>>121293047
>Anti-Terror Field
>stops missiles and destroys planes

>>121293498
Based anon. We're gonna need you later this year.

but tanks, fighters, and drones are mechas

>>121293271
Not right now.
The standard model is far from complete though. Who knows, there might be another gauge invariant force boson a-la photon to channel a force a-la electromagnetism which upon colliding with another such field produces visible interfering photons a-la electrodynamics.
Though you'd need an asspull comparable to the Z and W boson formation in neutron decay.

>>121293444
Actually if you wanna go that way about it, Evangelions are mecha-sized humans.

>>121293530
never forget ;_;7

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>>121292306

>>121293444
You don't have mechanical components, Evas do. you are stupid

>>121293667
1st movie > 2nd movie

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>>121293677
>You don't have mechanical components
Look at this pleb, he doesn't have implanted tech yet. Get cyberpunk.

>>121293690
I like both

>>121293556
>mecha-sized angels with a human soul
Fixed anon

>>121293677
>2015
>not having a pacemaker

Fuck you.

>>121293784
Yeah, but the second movie really really essentially had no mecha other than in the OP and (a very silly 5 min fight vs automated machines) at the end.
I like my ham sandwiches with ham.

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jap mechs are literally shit

battletech #1

>>121293677
What if I have prosthetic limbs?

>>121293959
Battletech mechs are babby shit. They can't even fly except with tiny leg rocket jumps, and don't have AT fields.

>>121293902
well the OP is one of the very few instances of "realistic" mecha combat in anime

>>121293785
>mecha-sized angels with a human soul
Fair enough.

Also when will we finally get awesome high-tech prosthesis?
I want to go Deus Ex on myself.

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>>121294013
>at fields
muh space magic

>fly
mechs shouldnt fly, they should be big stompy walking tanks

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Mechas are totally unrealistic.
But they're still cool.

>>121294056
Flying space mechs, an AT field, or similar is the only reason you would ever use mecha. Stompy tanks are dumb, expensive, and needlessly complex.

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>>121294056
>mecha shoudn't fly

Then how do you fight in space?

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>>121294013
Metal Gears! They can carry nuuukes! Just imagine a vehicle that can travel everywhere on land and that can launch nuclear missiles!

They are definitely a lot more intimidating than... I dunno... nuclear submarines!

>>121294119
with spaceships

>mecha being a practical space combat unit

those legs and arms are useless when you dont need to walk anywhere

>>121294096
>flying space mechs
see above, just use a space ship

>at fields

literally space magic, i dont know why you would talk about it in any discussion of practicality

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Whats the point of mechs if you could just send in a drone strike? Even if the mech have of anime power cant they just make a weapon out of that instead?

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>>121294187
Drone pilots aren't cute enough.

>>121294119
>Meleeing in space
Cool for entertaining purposes, not really something that is likely to become a thing in any future.

>>121294176
>those legs and arms are useless when you dont need to walk anywhere
Boarding actions, asteroids, moons, etc. You sure as hell wouldn't have ground troops in tiny ass space suits doing that fighting.

>literally space magic, i dont know why you would talk about it in any discussion of practicality
It's space magic that only works on biomecha, that's why it's an argument in favor of mecha. Keep in mind that basically all mecha except babbyshit walking tanks require space magic or very soft sci-fi to work, so "hurr magic" isn't a relevant point here.

>>121294176
>those legs and arms are useless when you dont need to walk anywhere
Funny enough this exactly What Char Aznable said in the very first Gundam.

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>>121294176
Active Mass Balance Auto-Control means vernier-less attitude control in micro-G.
>>121294271
Minovsky Particles.

>>121294279
>boarding actions
spaceship full of dudes in power armor if needed
>asteroids and moons
bombard from orbit

>space magic
stop that, we're talking about mechs not magic
>>121294313
>>121294314
>try and use your sword or whatever the fuck
>get hit by a relativistic projectile from a railgun thousands of km away

yeah mecha have no place in space combat

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>>121294056
>dat feel when no Sentou Yousei Yukikaze movie or more episodes.

>>121294241
Is there any anime drone pilots?

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>>121294382
Yukikaze had mechas?
>>121294414
I can't remember any.

>>121292901
this.

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>>121294382
>Sentou Yousei Yukikaze movie
soon

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>>121294414
My Little Assassination Target Can't Be This Islamic

>>121293959
Fuck do they have the Mechwarrior 2 games on gog or something? I need me some Mechwarrior in my life again.

>>121294447
>Yukikaze had mechas?
No, I meant to reply to >>121294068

I really liked the animation and atmosphere.

>>121294504
The Win95 version should work in WINE.

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>>121294370
>thousands of km away

>The Minovsky Physics Society was formed in U.C.0045 at the space colony Side 3. Their research was devoted to the development of a nuclear fusion reactor. By the year U.C.0047, development of the Minovsky-Ionesco reactor began. This reactor, although designed by Dr. T.Y. Minovsky in his earlier days when he was serving the Earth Federation, was still a piece of black box technology and rendered him a heretic in the classical physics community. This is the main reason for his termination of service in the Earth Federation and taking residence in Side 3 prior to the One Year War. However, seeing the horror of the Zabi family's militaristic regime, Minovsky defected back and offered his expertise to the Federation. However, his inventions were applied very differently by the Earth Federation.

>The Minovsky-Ionesco reactor was named after its fictional inventor. This reactor was "radical" due to the fact that it was the first "clean" nuclear reactor, emitting zero neutron radiation. The nuclear equation was:

{}^3_2\mathrm{He} + {}^2_1\mathrm H \to {}^4_2\mathrm{He} + \mathrm p (energy released: 18.35 MeV)

>The reactant used a rare isotope of helium known as helium-3 (i.e., 2 protons and 1 neutron in the nucleus). A helium-3 atom is fused with a deuterium atom (heavy hydrogen) to form the stable helium-4 and a single proton. Since the proton is positively charged, it can easily be trapped within a magnetic field. The main practical problem with this reaction is that helium-3 is extremely rare; there are few deposits on Earth, mainly found in uranium mines, and these are mostly depleted. The Gundam world's fusion reactors rely on a constant supply of helium-3 imported from the outer solar system planet Jupiter, thus necessitating the beginning of the Jupiter Energy Fleet. The JEF would travel from Earth to Jupiter, which has a high level of helium-3 in its atmosphere, and then come back to Earth with the gas fuel.

>>121294504
tell me about it. Mechwarrior 2/3/4 and mechcommander 1/2 were my fucking shit growing up

im still pissed MWO sucked as hard as it did

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What kind of fucking idiot feels the need to have to point out the giant mecha are impractical and unrealistic? As if everyone isn't well aware of that.
Like who says to themselves that it is something insightful of worth mentioning?

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>>121294512
Yeah, I'd definitely enjoy more aircraft anime.

>>121294559
I really hate the F91's open face.

>>121294543
i dont see what that has to do with anything.

put it in a spaceship instead.

>>121294559
i know mecha are unrealistic. But you can reason out why they are used in ground combat, so ground based mechs make sense. Space mechs dont. having arms and legs gives you nearly 0 advantage in space combat

20 years later. Jesus.

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>>121294656
>ground based mechs make sense

>>121294656
How can a spaceship hit what it can't see?

>The main use of the Minovsky particle was in combat and communication. When the Minovsky particle is spread in large numbers in the open air or in open space, the particles disrupt low-frequency electromagnetic radiation, such as microwaves and radio waves. The Minovsky particle also interferes with the operations of electronic circuitry and destroys unprotected circuits due to the particles' high electrical charge which act like a continuous electromagnetic pulse on metal objects. Because of the way Minovsky particles react with other types of radiation, radar systems and long-range wireless communication systems become useless, infra-red signals are defracted and their accuracy decreases, and visible light is fogged. This became known as the "Minovsky Effect".

>The disruption of electromagnetic radiation is due to the small lattice of the I-field creating fringes that long wavelengths cannot penetrate, and that diffract wavelengths that have similar distance with the fringes. This diffraction and polarization process disrupts the electromagnetic waves.[

The only thing that mechs would be useful for is land invasion and control, which is currently the weakest point of modern armies.

The mechs would however need to be almost human sized while possessing a very thick armor. They would also need to be fairly agile in order to be completely preferable to tanks.

>>121294711
compared to space? yeah.

they arent practical, but they are MORE practical than space mechs