Where's the borderline between regular dark and just plain

>>121229024
Top : logical death that makes the characters understand how dangerous the system is
Bottom : a teenager gets crushed for literally no reason except "Gendo was a dick who didnt want to turn off his toy" and to make the protag understand he HATES EVERYTHING
I think we know which scene is edgy here

The difference between good direction (bottom) and bad one (top). I love Shinbo, but Madoka is just shit.

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Edgy is something like AgK, It tries way to hard and comes off as immature.

The bottom scene was a pivotal point of character and plot development, while the top scene was just there for shock value

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>edgy

When will people stop using this awful word?

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>>121229182
The fuck are you talking about? They used the dummy plug while Shinji was still inside so NERV didn't have to lose another pilot/EVA.

>>121229372
>"gendo is so horrible what an asshole"
>pivotal

>>121229457
And they didnt bother to turn it off when the angel was defeated
And Shinji didnt even try to defend himself against an opponent who was fucking strangling him to death

>>121229024
Eva is more edgy than Madoka.

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>>121229192
>The difference between good direction (bottom) and bad one (top).
This.

Madoka's problem is that it doesn't spend a sufficient amount of time building tension and human emotions before executing its darkness. Poor writing, poor execution, and cheap tricks. Edgy.

>I love Shinbo, but Madoka is just shit.
Shinbo didn't direct Madoka or any SHAFT show.

>>121230026
You sure? MAL and IMDb say otherwise.

This thread is shit and I hope it dies before reaching 50 posts.

>>121230219
That will very probably happen.

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>>121230185
>MAL and IMDb
Yes, I'm sure. Shinbo just puts his name on every SHAFT show.

There is a fundamental difference between suffering to establish some broader theme, and suffering simply for sufferings sake.

Of course, few makes this distinction, and certainly no one on /a/ does or really knows how to. Which makes it practically worthless.

>>121230185
It's b8.