>have masochistic curiosity to watch a dub >all the dub

>>120618703
You know what is worse? All the 30-40 year old women trying to sound like little girls, forcing it to the point where it just breaks everything. Not even real little English speaking girls sound remotely close to what they are peddling.

>>120618703
By only watching dubs for westaboo shows and comedies. Not much of a point for the rest

Clapping, 2x speed, burger chewing sounds.

I've gotten so used to shitty dubs its the only way I can watch anime now. I just can't absorbed into the show otherwise.

It is nice when there's a decent dub every now and then like Death Note and Code Geass.

>>120618703
I know, it's just as disappointing as browsing /a/ and seeing half the posters misuse the quote function like some newfag from /v/.

>>120618970
But those will never match up to Cromartie or Ghost Stories. Actually, there have never been non-hentai dubs as good as these two.

>>120619000
>the quote function
don't you mean meme arrows anon?

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>dub hentai

>>120618703
berserk dub is horrible jesus christ

>>120619010
In retrospect, Ghost Stories isn't as funny as I found it years ago.

I mean, can you imagine a dub like that being done today? Can you imagine all the memes they'd throw in?

>>120619245
Well that's pretty much what abridged series turned into.

Don't you want to find something especially horrible? Something bad in a magical way, a way that's funny unintentionally?

Relevant to this thread's topic:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/282900/discussions/0/611696927918132199/

The shit taste of these people never ceases to amuse me.

>>120619335
Watch Sailor and the 7 Ballz 2: Return of the Ballz.

>>120619386
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/282900/discussions/0/611696927918132199/
Oh man, the dub for Valkyria Chronicles was just fucking painful too.

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>Anons streaming S&W dub
>Hear it's better than the sub
>While knowing this is likely unturue, I decide to give it a shot
>Holo has this retardedly exaggerated accent

>>120619395

Exactly, that's what I'm talking about. We need more of stuff like that.

They're either Americans (they're pretty much brainwashed/raised to think that everything America makes is the best), or brain damaged. Sometimes both.

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>>120619131
Why can't western women not sound like they've taken a million dicks already for the twenty minutes it takes to record a dub?

Defend these, dubfags:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQYXb-pCBB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUoIRyrvmZs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceECyOy-oYU

Dubfags have zero standards

>>120619689
NOT AGAIN

>>120619000
It's evolved beyond a quote function though. It starts out as
> half the posters misuse the quote function
Then we have
>misuse the quote function
then
>quote function
then
>being mad about the misuse of >
then
>being an elitist asshole
then
>quote
>implying

And eventually it becomes a go-to style for past tense recounts of practically any kind.
Don't pretend greentext posts haven't been a thing for years and years, anon.

>>120619689
There's nothing wrong here.

>>120619689
promos tend to suck, maybe the real product will be halfway decent? it is sentai, who am I kidding?

>>120619689
>nanananana

holy shit my sides

>>120619665
Because must hentai dubs are done by actual porn stars anymore.

>>120619689
Are these all voiced by the same person?

>>120619689
Just listening to white people say Japanese names is enough to make me cringe

>>120619689
man, that's fandub tier
and how they pronounce their names breaks any suspension of disbelief

Why do subfags make it a point to talk about dubs more than dubfags themselves?
Also why the fuck do you care what language people watch their girl cartoons in?

>>120619579
>actual old-definition weeaboos are now acceptable on /a/

why is vitagen and MAL taking over my home

>>120620078
I enjoy circlejerking and getting newfags to try to fit in to the hivemind. I also enjoy seeing people that watch dubs get mad because how opressed they are here.

>>120620078
Nice deflection dubfag.

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>>120619689
>view first video link
>click over to dub cast reveal for Sonico
>Jessica Nigri playing Sonico
Why would you do this? Why would you continue enabling this slut's existence? She is literally one of the top contributors to the stereotype of otaku/weebs in western culture.

>>120618703
Pimple noses, how do moefags deal with this?

>>120620078
Why do wine tasters bring up poor quality wine more than someone who drinks shitty wine?
Because they care more about wine.

>>120620046
No; but it would make a lot more to sense sound that similar if they were.
The sad part is, I can literally think of at least five other shows that feature the same three women sounding exactly the same, but not through typecasting as would be the case in Japan.

>>120620241
Wine is not cartoons.

>>120620216
Because dubs sell to weebs.

>>120620247
Are you sure? I know a fat girl with glasses who could totally be responsible for most of these voices.

I'm old and lazy now. I just want to watch some chinese cartoons on the TV from the comfort of my bed without squinting.

Is dubs so wrong? Is comfort such a bad thing?

>>120620315
>dubs sell to people who curse their white skin and wish they were Japanese

wat

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>>120619857
Wait, was she doing the Batman theme?

>>120620078
>Why do subfags make it a point to talk about dubs more than dubfags themselves

Yeah, sure, not like you people don't make a "WHICH DUBS ARE BEST" thread every fucking day

>>120619131
that's the only dub you should watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLmsVBgZiak

>>120620341
Yes... Yes it is...

>>120619689

10/10

Would preorder.

>>120620341
Of course not, you have platforms for discussing those anon, at reddit, tumblr and the rest of 4chan.

Dubbed hentai is THE BEST hentai, if you disagree then you hate laughterbating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR9vnrlsQ3c

>>120620247
> a lot more to sense sound that similar

I have no idea how I fucked up so badly in slipping a missing word back in.

>>120620216
>She is literally one of the top contributors to the stereotype of otaku/weebs in western culture.

So? Why does it matter what people think?

>>120620341
No. /a/ and /v/ are one of the same now, so they'll naturally parrot the shit out of each other.

Everybody is so focused on the truNEET/otakool fad that they forget to take it easy.

>>120620370
>...
>>>/whereveryoucomefrom/

>>120620366
this is fucking great

>stupid faggot little cocksucker

lost my shit

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>there are people on /a/ that actually know the names and careers of certain dub voice actors

>>120620486
I like chiaki omigawa

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>>120620388

10/10

>>120620486
>implying steve blum wasn't a husbando here before your new ass even found this board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TNFFmFOwnY

>>120620233
Hey, at least it's more than a dot: >>120620216

Also, they rarely have actual cheeks. The nasolabial folds don't exist in anime, beyond having a minuscule effect on the side of the mouth when someone's smile crosses their entire face.

Oh boy, is it time to post THAT dub?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdS3tt_xy0

>>120620555
>Girls und Panzer

Oh god no.

>this thread again

Why?
Who fucking cares?

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>>120619689
That was even worse than I was expecting. Jesus.

>>120620555
they didnt even sing?

>>120620555
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Jesus, as if you didn't need more effort that they don't care. They edited the fucking scene so that they wouldn't have to sing. God damn that is lazy.

>>120620486
https://archive.moe/a/thread/118229272

>>120620555
better than if they would've sung translated lyrics in English
worse than just letting them sing in Russian

I have a feeling that english VAs go over a line, say it naturally, time it, then speed up or slow down certain words-accentuating some that they think adds "flavor"-to meet whatever length is needed for the scene. Comes out as forced as shitty.

>>120618703
Easy, we enjoy the story and instead of the voices.

>>120620821
The singing was awkward in the first place; I don't see the big deal.

Most dubs are done cold.

Which is to say, the voice actors don't get a chance to read the script before recording, so most of it is done on the spot, with the director telling them how the character should be acting in the present situation.

>>120619735
It's called Newfag Summer 2007, and it's when 4chan started turning to shit. Misusing it screams "I am a newfag from /v/", and it will remain unwelcome no matter how many years pass.

I wonder how Japanese dubs of a western show sound to people who grew up speaking Japanese, in comparison to the original English.

Does it sound as horrible to them as dubs generally do to us, I wonder? You'd think so, right?

>>120620896
>dubfags will actually defend this

>>120620864
I think bad voice actors just default to 'announcer inflection' because it's well known, easy as fuck and doesn't actually depend on (and therefore adds nothing to) the context in which it's said.

I don't know if there's an actual term for the 'announcer inflection', but I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about. The one any half-baked radio host uses, or sports announcer, or shitty VA.

>Japanophiles still think one is better than the other

Fun fact: To a native Jap, they sound just as corny as the dubs sound to you. People do not talk like cartoon characters be they in English or Japanese.
I loved those threads on 2ch that would tell of greasy gaijin who would talk like animu characters. I was cringe worthy as it was amazing

I blame it all on sound directors being total shit and the VAs trying to sound like total caricatures instead of actual people.
That shit doesn't work for an english dub, everything sounds unnatural as fuck.

>>120620821
The edit was done in Japan after being informed of just how fucked up the US copyright on Katyusha is.

>>120621006
Yeah, that's why seiyuus are so obsessed over, because everyone thinks they're terrible.

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>>120620952
>Does it sound as horrible to them as dubs generally do to us, I wonder? You'd think so, right?
Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eqN2FVyqtc

Japan can dub and they do it right. That Spongebob is fucking ON THE SPOT.

Face it dubfag, murrika a shit at dubbing.

>>120620952
Perhaps not, given that voice acting is a much more developed profession and industry in Japan than it is in the United States.

>>120620952
Watching some disney trailers in dub right now. They're meh but not awful, but then that's probably not a fair benchmark.

>>120621041
Otaku and their microculture will obsess over anything.
Seiyuus have even told them to fuck off and leave them alone multiple times.

>>120621006
>To a native Jap, they sound just as corny as the dubs sound to you.

they may sound corny, but at least the jap ones put some effort. the english dubs are downright horrible or just lazily done.

and you PAY people to do this.

>>120620973
The British actually use the term 'BBC English' for their version.

>>120621066
damn nigga they nailed spongebob

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>>120620303

>>120621066
Spongebob is right but all the other characters aren't even close.

>>120621090
>being this buttblasted about your superior white genetics

move to japan, man
i promise it will be JUST like azumanga daioh and all of the other SOLs

>>120621089
>>120621006
And you know this because you're a native Japanese citizen?

>>120621066

They got Spongebob well but why does Plankton sound like a loli?

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>>120621066
>Plankton

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

>>120621066
While that spengbab is 10/10, the fuck is up with the rest?
Why the fuck isn't Jouji Nakata voicing Plankton?

>>120621006
people in real life don't talk like john wayne but that doesn't make cowboy movies less enjoyable.

>>120621178
Everybody who's been here for more than a year knows this, faggot.
The seiyuu shit happens all of the time, too.

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Just because I happened to watch it recently OP, I'd recommend trying High School DxD's dub. It was breddy gud.

>>120620942
>it screams "I am a newfag from /v/"
Oh, so you're one of THOSE people.

What, do you think this entire thread is just /v/ boogeymen? >>120605541
Or do you loathe the fact that there are so many users here who've adopted the broader usage of > ?

And most importantly, is there an actual problem with that? Or are you just being a conceited asshole who believes everything they don't like comes from some group they've labeled their boogeyman?
>implying you need to answer that
And yes, that's intentional.

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>>120621247
>I know that it's true because I said it is

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>watch show written by foreigners, animated by foreigners, and set in a foreign land

>willingly watch it without the foreign voice acting in favor of some old smoking hags voice as she tries to sound 14

Dubfags are a blight that should be exterminated.

>>120621081
Brave actually sounds pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_IvGp_pWU

How to Train Your Dragon is pretty phoned in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBOoOi1AW0c

Big Hero 6, Hiro is decent but the rest isn't earth-shattering, though the English Baymax is a lot to live up to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-dBI1R0AjU

>>120621066
They got Spongebob right sure. But listen to that Plankton. That's a fucking loli voice.

And did you grow up speaking Japanese? Or are you at least fluent in the language? Because otherwise the comparison doesn't work. Of course it sounds right to YOU AND ME, but it might not sound right to someone with a much deeper understanding of the Japanese language and how it's supposed to sound in comparison to the original English.

>>120621066
>Plankton
mein fucking angles

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>>120621339
But it's set in Chicago.

>>120621315
>nuh-uh

Riveting.

>>120621237
But that's the thing. John Wayne plays a character in movies centered around those character. The dude didn't act outside of acting.

>>120621066
On the other hand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlbn2zUQACQ

That fucking Azula is awful.

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>>120621434
You don't need to understand a language to hear it, stupid.

>>120621498
If your logic is that you must watch a show in English if it's set anywhere but Japan, then you must now watch anime movie not set in America in the language of the country it's set in.

>>120621434
Why did you have to say that?
Now I want loli plankton fanart and I will probably never get it.
Jerk.

>>120621339
hi /v/

>>120619689

I'm not normally one to defend Sentai, but these clips are brilliant and none of you realize why.

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>>120621567
> The dude didn't act outside of acting.

>>120621339
>we should look at the japanese as a superior race, rather than going by the individuals and their own mindsets

you are part of the problem

>>120620388
>Have you ever tried to fuck a box
Bye bye sides

>>120621619
>hating dubs means you're from /v/

Please, shitpost even more.

>>120621661
He literally said nothing related to any of that.

>>120621579
>imouto

Azula is an imouto. Huh.

Are there images of Azula acting like a cliche anime imouto? Because I need to see them if so.

>>120621567
>John Wayne plays a character in movies centered around those character. The dude didn't act outside of acting.

What does this mean?

>>120618815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaM2_dPArBM

>>120621661
He didn't say or imply that.

You may have comprehension issues.

>>120621599
>not making your language major friends dub Spice and Wolf into Old German

>>120621579
Oo, but did you hear the Gaelic dub?
http://youtu.be/OIQDbiBXVig?t=3m

>>120621661

What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>120621751
>I'm 16 years old

>>120621736
That is really not okay.
>manga
ow

>>120621066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfSqx5_v1gc

Here's Squidward, a bit hard to hear but they nailed him too.

>>120621706
hating dubs isn't the same as "we should kill everybody who likes what I don't like"
that's 14 year old shit, or /v/

>>120621648
Because they'll make people watch the subtitled version on CR instead?
The evil has just been shifted from one place to another.

>>120621799
Whoops, meant for
>>120621736

>>120620555
holy shit, I've lost it

>>120621498
By that logic if it's set in Germany you had best be using a German dub with English subs.

>>120621619
B8

>>120621661
What? I don't watch Dubs of Italian movies. Or dubbed Kung fu flicks if I can avoid it.

If I were a nip watching Vikings I wouldn't want it dubbed in moongibberish.

>>120621831

Their performances are all chuuni as fuck. They fit perfectly.

>>120619010
Golden Boy

>>120621943
I'll never understand why people act as if Golden Boy is amazing in some way.

>>120621821
It's not that I wish you dead. But I do wish you would fuck off to somewhere else on the internet, so I don't have to constantly be reminded that some people are truly capable of having such shit taste.

What is the objective WORST dub

As in the one that's incredibly bad but not quite terrible enough for you to gain enjoyment at just how awful it is

>>120621339
You better be watching it without subs, then.

>>120621804
>Nozaki-coon

Is it intentional? Do the directors not watch the sub and step in to correct the English VAs?

>>120618703
I like to watch shitty ecchi and harem series with english dubs before bed sometimes.

>>120622011
Could you please employ more logical fallacies in your arguments?

>>120622029

I don't think the directors for care.

>>120621434
I'm Japanese and I'd generally agree with the assessments people posted of the Spongebob cartoon.

>>120621599
>You don't need to understand a language to hear it, stupid.
I think you're overestimating it a little, you can get a superficial sense of how things are (like the worst voices stick out) but stupid? Nah, I think speaking the language is definitely relevant.

>>120622029
>Do the directors not watch the sub

Wow, that's funny, you think that they actually watch the show.

No, they just grab licenses and dub the whole show in an afternoon so they can make a quick buck

>>120622005
Azumanga Daioh comes to mind, but I'm sure there are some I've repressed.

>>120621972
>having such shit taste

the fact it bugs you what I do in my free time so much is what I find most interesting

>>120622005
Recently, Xros Wars' dub.
They set back the digimen dub quality two decades back into the past.
And that was just the starting point, it gets worse from there on.

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>>120622031
Maybe.

>>120622138
not all are like that

>>120622165
Why are you here if you're so puzzled by basic conversation?

>>120621972

bait harder.

>>120622172
Has Digimon dubbing ever actually been good though?

The first two seasons are pretty solid kids shows and have nostalgia going for them. Tamers has some good moments but has weird decisions throughout. I don't recall any of the other shows having particularly good dubs so Xros would just be continuing a trend. Though I only watched about two minutes of the dub so I dunno if it got unbelievably worse later on.

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>>120620388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLmsVBgZiak

>>120622029
>>120622071

To be fair, those 15-second spots are only designed to promote awareness a show on Sentai's linear cable channel, and are rarely more than one-and-done deals. They don't reflect casting choices for an actual dub. I'm not sure Nozaki-kun is confirmed for a dub at this point.

>>120622138

>No, they just grab licenses and dub the whole show in an afternoon so they can make a quick buck
That's really not how it works, even just from a scheduling standpoint.

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>>120621736
>and I'm sixthteen years old
Uh huh

do they just pull names out of a hat when they're deciding on dub casts?

>sentai dubs 3 shows where yoko hisaka voices the main heroine
>gets a different english va for each show
>other vas are cast as different characters so it's not like they weren't available or something

>>120622165
It annoys me that you're here and that by you simply being here you in turn attract more of your ilk.

See: naruto threads

They used to not exist in any real way here. Until more and more of the faggots started showing up, leading to here being 200+ post naruto threads on /a/. Something that a few years ago would have never happened.

And to be completely honest, nobody that finds dubs the superior watching experience is the sort of individual I want to discuss animu with. Because you've already confirmed that you have shit taste.

>watch hellsing ultimate in english
>it's pretty good
>watch with jap voices and get this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDnu0giUS00

>>120622318
STUPID FAGGIT LITTLE COCK SUCKER

>>120622359
What is the issue exactly?

>>120620952
I have the Japanese dub of Fellowship of the Ring, it's not bad, comparable to most Japan-produced anime and drama I've seen.

>>120622359
Dude I fucking love engrish. I actually wish it was incorporated a little more.

>>120622314
Savers' dub was actually rather faithful(I mean, compared to the rest) to the source material excluding one MOTW that had to be full OC donut steel or else they wouldn't be able to air the episode, the names and the soundtrack.

So I chose to believe that the next dub would at least keep the OST.
God was I wrong.

>>120622432

What is wrong with you?

>>120622353
Shounen threads were always a thing here, you fucking faggot. And the fact that you're comparing a genre that's causing the entire industry to stagnate to people listening to their anime in a different language(again, this affects you how?) shows how ignorant you are about the industry. If you don't like the voices, switch the audio instead of bitching about them.

http://youtu.be/5TXTpik5wf4

>>120622359
Oh c'mon, it's Wakamoto.

Next you'll tell me that you don't like Nakata as much as what's-his-name.

>>120622353
>autism.jpg

>>120622460
I'm a shithead who can enjoy low brow humor from time to time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU3Gg696yrM
>Genki granny
How the fuck does this happen?

>>120622460
What exactly are you wanting? You want Hellsing to be super serious or something? The character is supposed to be over the top, that is literally the point of watching Hellsing

>>120618703
>How do dubfags deal with this
By watching the sub

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>>120622359
That's actually miles better than 99% of the English that shows up in anime. It's a little sadder when they have characters who are supposed to be foreigners speaking like that, though.

But then not everyone gets to be this awesome.

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All the sub vs dub shit flinging aside, how much does dubbed anime actually sell in the west? How many blu rays does a popular dubbed show sell compared to popular shows in Japan?

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>>120622517

Oh okay, I can understand that.

>>120618703
Veeeeeeery easy question.
Scenario A: Its a good dub,, we enjoy it.
Scenario B: Bad dub, dont botger with it.
Scenario C Ironically bad, laugh at it.

>>120622572
Wait, you're saying people actually BUY ANIME?

>>120622466
Narutard threads were most certainly not always a thing here. It wasn't too long ago that they would be doubles spammed until a mod deleted the entire thread. That was more or less the normal way they went.

And do you have a difficult time reading? I'm not comparing the way you imply. I'm comparing the idiots like you who flock to one another. You're equally cancerous with the faggots that actually make naruto threads on /a/.

>>120622470
>and dere is a Syrian but more meduso a dog is woman to live

Seriously what the fuck is the last sentence supposed to be?

>>120622359
The Hellsing Ultimate dub was really good. I actually prefer it over the Japanese because the accents were okay and it was just as hammy or more than the original.

>>120622622
Flee while you can, man.

>>120622666

What the fuck is the entire segment supposed to be?

Dandy was nice

I'm sure One Piece is fine (if you don't mind watching dragonball again) until the anime turns to shit

>>120622622
> Its a good dub,, we enjoy it.

That's funny

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>>120619689

I'd only heard Rikka's.

There are no words.

>>120622572

The upper limit for a popular show period in the US these days is about ten thousand physical copies sold.

>>120622520

>I wanna cum now
>okeh

Fucking lost it. Sounds like a Mexican or something,

>>120622359
>eefe eengwend does not love za loodre, jesus chrice, let him be accused o load come aymem

>>120622641
The oldfag card doesn't work when other people besides you were also here.
Naruto/Bleach/Whatever the fuck were almost always a thing, although there used to be a bit more shitposting in them due to people not wanting to see that on the front page.

>YOU'RE THE SAME AS NARUTARDS

Again, I'm not seeing what mental gymnastics you're performing in order to make the connection.

>>120622622
>Scenario A: Its a good dub,, we enjoy it.

You should know, right? I mean you have been here since summer and all.

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>>120622520
That "Oh my God, what happened!" after she jumps off the roof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09dCcsWrGQ

>>120619432
>anything where John Dimaggio plays a flamboyant homosexual
>bad

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Can someone link me to that dubbed DBZ hentai parody thing by Walmart?

It was fucking hilarious. It sounded like they asked random people on the street to read out the lines.

>>120622779
They were never an accepted part of the board until very recently. And only after moot personally stepped in to say they were allowed.

>mental gymnastics
How? This is a basic premise.

Retards like you attract other retards who are under the impression they are in friendly company.

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>>120622564
>hire an American-born actor
>make him speak entirely in Engrish one-liners

>>120622925
>basic premise
>watching cartoons in your own language is the same as outright poor cartoons specifically meant for the 7-12 range

Again, you've several types of delusional if you can lump all of your critics into one giant mass.
Also again,
>mental gynastics

>>120622938
Anyone who has a problem with TK needs to fucking have their head looked at

They have shit taste, why do you think they're watching anything dubbed.
Also, you should stop using the quote function incorrectly since it makes you just as retarded as dubfags.

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>>120621066
>implying that was good
Patrick sounded awful and Plankton was just dumb.

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>>120620366
>most girls wouldn't be so understanding after being raped
every time

>>120622998
You keep trying to make a comparison Im not implicating. I'm specifically talking about the idiots like you who think either dubs or naruto are good and belong on this board.

By being here and posting about dubs, you attract more retards like yourself and board quality takes a hit.

Same as narutards being here and posting about naruto brought in other fucking narutards.

How are you so incapable of grasping such a simple concept?

>>120622869
the fucking classic of all time

>>120622925
>Retards like you attract other retards who are under the impression they are in friendly company.
Fun fact; if there is enough friendly company around, they are in friendly company.
Not that I give a shit about your autistic conversation with some anon about how 'muh /a/ used to be better' or other such nonsense, since it's clear you've got a pitiable attachment to a cartoon discussion board, and that it's been such a massive factor in your pathetic life you feel threatened by any form of change or even non-change that doesn't mesh well with your delusional nostalgia.

mate.

>>120623191
You still haven't answered as to how those two correlate outside of "I don't like it". If you're idiotic to enough to think everybody who prefers dubs is a shitposter by default, go for it. But don't have the fucking gall to go on about board quality afterwards.

Might want to tone down the hostility a bit too; you're starting to seem legit angry.

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>>120622159
>Azumanga Daioh
In their defence, there were a few jokes that they nailed down fucking pat. Osaka's "I smelt a fart that was not my own" was a masterpiece in English. Other than that, yeah, it was shit.

>>120622005
I'd say the worse dub to how good the show actually was (like a ratio) award probably goes to Mawaru Penguindrum. Excellent show, horrific dub. Another one that got me was Medaka Box's dub. No, if Zenkichi sounds like Adam Blade from Needless you are doing something wrong. Even the people that did MedakaMENT (the abridged series) dubbed it better. That said, Kumagawa was actually pretty good, so they got that (his entrance at the end of episode 12 of Abnormal was as good as you could expect it to be) right.

>>120622159
I wish they just made Osaka sound "slow". That southern accent was goofy.

>>120623358
I've explained it multiple times now. The fact that you have such shit reading comprehension only further illustrates my point that people like you don't contribute anything positive to this board.

>>120621964
It's the only series I consider the dub greater than its original, though a few of the female roles were not great

dub Kintaro is hilarious - also liked best girl's VA

>>120620555
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY CHANGE THE SONG?

>>120622668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUB9QGKCNmI

I actually liked the Deadman Wonderland Dub, shit anime aside.

http://youtu.be/ks0ZsP_etkg?t=1m20s

>>120623613
Please stop posting this shit, it's genuinely awful and you people should feel bad for enjoying it.

>>120623415
Shit not due to the VA quality, but the translation itself. Let's just clear that up.

>>120623656
Why are you so sensitive to the English tongue?

>>120623571
Something something copyright, apparently.

>>120623696
I'm not, a majority of the media I consume and enjoy is English. And it's because of that that I can recognize the difference between good, over the top acting, and bad, corny shit like that.

>>120623636

You know I'd go as far as say any dub after like 2010-2012 is competently done. Like there's no guarantee that it'll be good, but it won't be horribly, ear rape bad or kung-fu movie hilarious bad. At worst it'll illicit a giant "meh" response. You get some that are surprisingly good imo.

But if you rather listen to the Japanese VAs then do so. Most times they're pretty good on their own right save for a few examples of "they're obviously only doing this for a paycheck."

>>120623744
>want serious voice acting in hellsing
>not wanting ham

>>120623636

That MC voice, holy shit. It kinda reminds me of Rick and Morty.

>>120623795
No, I literally just explained this.

There is a difference between good, over the top acting, and bad corny shit like that. The acting can be over the top and silly and still be good acting. Which is a concept I guess you don't understand, if you think that what you posted was better than the Japanese.

>>120623761
This entire thread is full of examples proving you completely wrong.

>>120623744

Anime is intentionally corny and over the top because that's what's nips consider to be good acting. To most Western ears it's not desired so when done in English/your native tongue it'll sound over the top and cheesy.

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Mediocre voice acting is a small price to pay for having the luxury of not reading and just watching, but generally what I do is I watch the first episode subbed and dubbed to see which is better and base my decision off of that.

Easily the worst thing about dubs is the lack of variety in voice actors, after you watch enough dubbed anime, even if its a good one you're gonna tired of hearing the same voice actors, because you begin associate certain voices so strongly with a character, and its weird hearing goku in berserk for example.

Shows like cowboy bebop prove that dubs can work and be just as good if not better than original, but more often than not they are mediocre at best.

>>120623880
What is wrong with you people? Please, please learn to read. I'm begging you.

I said that there is a difference between GOOD over the top, and BAD over the top. This applies to English, which is what we're talking about. The problem is that they are trying to emulate the Japanese way of over the top acting, but in English. It doesn't work. You can't take another languages inflections and apply them to your native one and expect it to come out right, especially since the original is an Asian language and English is obviously not.

>>120623964
>having the luxury of not reading and just watching

This is the part where I just start laughing at how stupid some of the people that post on this board are.

>Americans think that not having to read is a luxury

>>120624043
>Americans

dat weeaboo boogeyman

>>120624043
I've heard people say they actually can't watch subbed anime because reading while watching is too hard.
I'm an American

>>120624076
Seriously though, it doesn't matter what nationality you are, if you genuinely consider it a weight off your shoulders to not have to process written language on a screen then there is something wrong with you.

>>120624103
Because reading is for smart people so that must mean you're smart for reading the subtitles.
Fucking idiot.

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>>120623964

>>120624168
No, reading is for any human over the age of 6, unless they are born with a mental defect that doesn't allow them the ability to learn to read.

Goddamn I've seen some of the exact same arguments used in these threads threads back in like 2008. I feel like I'm in an endless recursion in time or something.

>>120624228
And yet they still post their dub threads every single day

>>120621599
>not watching hellsing ultimate in english
>not watching !FAKE in english
>not watching DBZ in earth-speak
>not watching cowboybebop in future-martian-chinese
>not watching upotte! in BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM

>>120624103
I watch subs, bit come on; don't ignore the fact that you're going to miss out on some of the visuals if you have to read the subs.
If you disagree with that then I can only call you a liar, since having a single visual focus is a fact of human biology. You can't read and watch a show at the same time without detracting your focus.

>>120624228
I'm convinced anyone who unironically defends dubs is a newfag, because I said the same shit when I was a newfag.

>>120624043
Honestly most of the time I watch anime for the animation. It isn't about >reading is hard its about having to slightly avert your focus from the animation every so often so you can understand that this whiny bitch boy hates fighting in this awesome giant robot. Its not that big of a whoop but honestly I have missed some quick edits and movements in first viewings of shows so I can understand where it comes from.

>>120624103
It sometimes happens because there's something wrong with the show.
It is rare, but there are occasional instances where the characters are infodumping so much that you need four lines of subtitles on screen to cover it.

>>120624205
As an American I've got to say I love these things.

If you can't laugh at yourself, you have nonsense of humor.

And yes a good chunk of our populace are illiterate mouth breathing welfare whores.

>>120624261
>>120624313

Both sides

>HURR UR JUST A WEEBAOO
>DURR U JUST HAET READING

Like why don't we just fucking watch anime and defend the honor of our waifu like any other normal greasy neckbeard animu fan.

>>120623964
>Why pay attention when I can just have the light wash over me

Nigga, without good voiceacting, you can't get involved with the characters.

You. can't. get. immersed. when. people. speak. like. this.

>>120624304
Yes, you can, if you aren't stupid. You should not have to think about reading the subtitles on the screen. It should be second nature to glance at the bottom, figure out what is being said, and keep looking at the screen.

Do people just stare at the bottom of the screen or something? What am I missing here that is difficult in any way?

>>120624313
>is a newfag if they prefer dubs

Literally what?
These threads are fucking ancient.

>>120624424
Times have changed man; it's about being truNEET and otakool now.

I wish /a/ had more people like you

>>120624424
>stop talking about anime related things on the anime board

No.

>>120624444
People who never advanced beyond a 4th grade reading level are actually disgustingly common.

Hence the reason that modern political speeches are written at a 4th grade reading level. So the masses of drooling plebs can at least think they understand.

Anyone who isn't an idiot has no problem reading subs in under a second.

>>120624560
>No.

But it doesn't even affect you, anon.

What is with /a/'s relatively recent mentality that all discussion of dubs needs to go to /co/? It's still anime, being in English doesn't turn it into a western cartoon.

Is it Toonami's fault?

Does anyone here seriously watch dubs besides the select few decent ones (e.g. Baccano, Cowboy Bebop, etc.)?

>>120624591
Neither does anything to do with anime. What is your point exactly? That this should be a hugbox where we just go "I disagree with your opinion but respect you as a person!!!".

No, fuck you, I will talk about whatever the fuck I want to you stupid plebian.

>>120624643
Because people who want to talk about dubs don't want to talk about the actual anime. All they want to talk about is how great the dub is. Which has nothing to do with the anime itself.

I can accept that dubs usually aren't stellar. But there's something wrong with a person when they say that every dub ever is bad, no exceptions. I know someone who said that the dub of Space Dandy is shit. Fucking Space Dandy, whose dub has been the most natural dub that I've heard in years. That just screams bias to me.

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>>120624429

Thats just not true, I've been plenty involved with characters, whether its subbed or dubbed. You just don't want to believe that you can enjoy an anime without the original voice actors, but its still very possible, most people fell in love with anime by watching them dubbed on television, even if they switched entirely to subbed later, dubbed was good enough to make them want to dig deeper into anime.

>>120624643
Migrants, mostly. People usually didn't give a shit and focused discussions on the shows themselves.
>>120624683
Whuddup

>>120624591
In the back of my mind I'll know that someone is watching anime wrong.

>>120624694
>Which has nothing to do with the anime itself.
It doesn't have anything to do with comics or cartoons either.

What you're essentially asking for here is a /va/ board.

>>120624705
>people who disagree with my shitty opinion must be biased

>>120624643
The rationale is that people defending dubs on principle instead of listing very rare exceptions are idiots from /co/ who don't give a shit about how something sounds.

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>>120624694
>No, fuck you, I will talk about whatever the fuck I want to you stupid plebian.


literally /v/ermin

>>120624724
>People had shitty tastes when they were 6 years old watching cartoons

BREAKING NEWS AT 11

>>120624370
I'd cry instead. Reading is something that should be as natural as breathing. I can't even fathom what sort of education someone received to consider reading a luxury.

>>120623636
Seems like an actually good dub

>>120624779
I'm from /v/ if I don't get your explicit permission to talk about board related things?

>>120624742
No, I'm asking for people to stop fucking talking about dub VAs and TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL ANIME ITSELF

All these angry sad subfag weebs.

>>120624851
But seiyuus are okay, right?

>>120624851

I would think people would talk about seiyuu if they actually had first hand knowledge. Like I can't tell you Kana Hanazawa is good because I formed that opinion on my own, I just heard that she's supposed to be good and she's voiced characters that I've liked.

>>120624851
WHICH IS WHY THERE SHOULD BE A FUCKING /VA/ BOARD SO ALL THE VAFAGS CAN DISCUSS THEIR SHITTY VAS OVER THERE INSTEAD OF HERE YOU FUCKING DUMBASS

MY GOD I AM FIVE SECONDS FROM EXPLODING

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>>120624899
Tell me how many threads we have that are explicitly about seiyuus and have nothing to do with the anime that the seiyuu is in. And then compare that to how many threads we have that are "dubs better than the original"

>>120624948
>create a seperate board for a tiny niche topic that would be exhausted in a few days

>>120624724
When you were a kid, you didn't know anything about quality. Everyone loves shitty things when they're a stupid kid.

There's a point where you should start giving a shit.

>>120624973
>create a seperate board for a tiny niche topic that would be exhausted in a few days
you literally described /po/

If a dub is terrible, most are, then I'll prefer sub. If the show is set in Japan sub for immersion. If the dub is decent and the show isn't in Japan I'll probably prefer dub. None of this matters because I'll usually go through shows twice for both versions anyway. What do you fake weebs not watch both out of dedication to your hobby? Fucking casual poseurs.

>>120624705

Problem is people who really hate dubs the most barely watch them, and if they do they're just looking for faults, so their opinion is about as valuable as someone who hates anime but never watches any.

>>120625180
This so goddamn much.
>>120624973
But we have plenty of seiyuu threads, brah.

>>120625180
This is the same argument that I have to read Naruto in full to know it's bad.

>>120624444
>>120624584
Everything you both just said is very inaccurate.
On average, an adult can read about 250 words per minute (college student average is 300), so let's go with the higher stat and say around 5 words per second.
Since most sentences have around ten to twenty words, you waste from 2 to 4 seconds of focus for every sentence that appears on screen. You may not *think* you're doing it, but that's just a perception bias, and you're an idiot for not considering it.

Depending on how much dialog there is in the show you watch, that can add up a lot. Even if it doesn't, there's still a good chance you're going to miss details, and this is not even considering the fact that you have to make a mental switch each time your focus changes from reading the text to interpreting the scene.

That is, your vision functions quite differently to something like a video feed; your perception is largely based on movement and changes, so continuous focus is pretty important if you want to take in a lot of visual information.

Of course, neither of you idiots would have considered any of that, since you can't tell what you missed and therefore do not consider it missed.
You don't know what you don't know, and all that.

Again, disclaimer: I watch subs, but I'm not going to pretend that there are no caveats to doing so.

>>120625238
It really isn't.

>>120625168
So you watch all of your American movies in different language dubs when they're set in different countries too then?

>>120625236

Most of /a/ couldn't name seiyuu outside of Norio Wakamoto and whoever happened to be currently in a publicity shitstorm at the time.

Why does this thread exist?
Just watch the shows

>>120625236
>But we have plenty of seiyuu threads

Show me that they are as frequent and as full of recycled conversations and then I will agree with you.

>>120625295
You're comparing live action movie dubs to animation dubs.
Think about that for more than six seconds.

>>120625295
No you fucking spaz, anime is my hobby not the fucking garbage that comes out of hollywood. I couldn't give less of a shit about the transformers 3 german dub you fucking retard. Where did you read that in my post?

>>120625168
>What do you fake weebs not watch both out of dedication to your hobby
No, that's retarded. Just watch the better one. Why would I watch something twice when I could be watching another anime.

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Plus, many of the best shows don't even get dubbed. Mostly just boring action shlock and Kyoani stuff.

>>120625374
>recycled conversations

This is what I don't get. Just say you hate Cristina Vee fangirls instead of every single person who happens to like their animu in English. They are two vastly different groups and I can guarentee you that the latter wants to punch the former in the face as much as you do.

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>>120625334

Honestly it's fun debating stupid shit, 4chan is the best place to have your argument torn to shreds and see the chinks in your opinions armor.

>>120625378
>>120625388
All I'm getting here is that this "Watch the dub that fits the setting" only applies to your native language.

>>120625491
I don't make sense of that at all. I'm just saying animation is an entirely different medium and shouldn't be compared to bad kung-fu dubs.

>>120625440
Oh I'm sure, all the good dubfags surely don't post in the daily "I really like Cowboy Bebop guys" dub threads.

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Hilary Hagg though

>>120625577
Goddamn, dude. Stop with the generalizing. I hate those twats as much as you do, but I don't make it a point to group an entire base with them.

Jesus Christ, these threads are nearly as bad as CR threads.

If you want to watch shitty dubs, fine, but realize that most people on /a/ don't agree with you. Don't get butthurt when you get green texted at.

Yes, some dubs are okay, but most are stilted shit.


Also, the Eva dub is fucking trash, I'm tired of that getting lumped in with CB as an example of a good dub. Fuck anyone who likes it.

>>120621736

>that wacky bassline at the start


Okay you got me

>>120625658
And inferiority complex-ridden faggots like you make them bad
>get green texted at

Sweet Jesus

>>120625012

You can be an adult and still enjoy dubs though, age is a factor, but I think its more about experience and knowing the difference between the 2. Honestly my opinion of dubs has dropped since getting serious about watching anime, but only because of the inconsistent quality of them, at the end of the day I'd rather hear a decent dub than watch it subbed, but its not always an option, which is not a problem since I'm perfectly fine with watching subbed anime, I can't lose.

>>120622005
Not English, but a dub nonetheless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_TLBZxY4U

>>120625795
You can be an adult and think that Meet The Spartans is good too. What's your point

>>120625877
And comparisons like those is why nobody takes you seriously, anon.

>>120621006

That is true, but you also actively ignore how actors enunciate almost all their lines.

People mumble and fuck up sentences all the time. Actors obviously act their lines but viewers are used to it.

>>120621066
Thats not right, Spongebob is worth millions so they had to get the best actors for this. EVERY dub for spongebob is at least decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq6WTm23bZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EgqMzFiDz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD1zsA643e8

>>120626001
No, it's decently apt if a bit extreme, as a kid liking something like that trash is acceptable, but at some point you should develop some taste.

>>120621006
That's not true, they may sound corny and unrealistic, but they don't sound Stilted or read off a script.

Dubs are stagnate and stilted as all fuck. At least English dubs are, because they don't hire anybody.

There hire the same stable of people with zero range.

>>120621066
>恐ろしい割れ目から…
That's not appropriate, Spongebob.

>>120621006
Well no shit they're acting cartoon characters. The issue is not how realistic they sound in real life but well they fit in within the cartoon.

>>120621006

Thats what I've been thinking too, its really not that japanese voice actors are so good, its that we can actually notice that the american voice actors are shitty.

>>120626300

I'd even go a step farther and saying that we notice the scripts are shitty. A lot of work comes off better when read than spoken and vice versa. A classical literature book would sound silly when acted and an award winning movie looks silly when you just look at the screenplay.

>>120626405
>A classical literature book would sound silly when acted

Look, I realize that this is /a/ and not /lit/, but please don't act like a fucking retard.

>>120626405
You amongst countless others have reached that valid conclusion. Unfortunately it's going to be lost the next sub vs dub shitposting thread.

>>120626405
This may be true, but this:>>120626300
I disagree with. A lot of the inflection may not be similar to how it would be in English, but it does seem pretty similar to French for instance. The actual voices are still good, and you can tell from even a bit of a multilingual background.

>>120622102
>I think you're overestimating it a little
A little, perhaps, but you can hear that people are speaking fluidly and with emotion. A thing not present in most English Dubs.

Of course you can't say subs are always better, but most of the time they are. Most dubs have very little work put into them.

You could evaluate them on a case by case basis, but I don't see why you would. Try out the dubs which are supposedly very good, and perhaps the dubs for any series you may be particularly interested in.

Honestly, I don't see the point in watching dubs, I mean some of the common arguments for dubs are down right retarded.

>They're better because I don't have to look at them
>they're better because I can watch the animation better

The only decent argument I've ever come across for watching dubs over subs is that you can more easily relate with the characters if they're speaking the same language.

I don't really understand that, but at least it's not silly. The one problem with it in my eyes is that how can you do that if they all talk like bored robots?

>>120626512
But the point is that people don't use that inflection in everyday speak; it's exclusive to animation.

>>120626548
You're kind of a cunt, m8

>>120626300
>>120626405
>>120626493
You people are god damn stupid.

If you walk into a foreign country and someone starts speaking to you, you will completely understand at the very least how they feel about you. You don't need to understand the individual words to understand the emotions that are trying to be conveyed, at least in a general sense.

Learning the meaning of each individual word that your chinese moeblob girls say will not suddenly make the acting bad.

>>120626559
It seems pretty similar to actual french inflections (at least for Quebec french), so it doesn't really seem ridiculous to me (except for loli voices and whatnot). Are you sure that's the case?

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>>120626595
How so?

>>120626616
No, knowing those chinese moeblobs sound nothing like the actual language will suddenly make the acting bad.
Hang around some Jap friends or something, you'll get the point eventually.
>You people are god damn stupid

Or maybe not.

>>120626765
But this is like saying every movie ever made is bad, because dialogue doesn't sound like real conversation. Of fucking course it doesn't, it isn't supposed to. It's idealized conversation.

>>120626616
Well part of that is just our nature due to evolution and cultural adaptation - lower sharper/growling pronunciation signify anger or negativity while higher pitched usually denotes more joyful feelings / positive. Also half of that understanding is body language something which is variable degrees of quality in animation. However you just miss out on a lot of specific social ques when you don't understand a language. Not that it matters anyway, this whole argument is just silly.

>>120626765
>No, knowing those chinese moeblobs sound nothing like the actual language will suddenly make the acting bad
No it won't.

It's no different from a theatrical accent. No body speaks in the inflections they use for Othello, but they still sound decent.

Most English VAs are not doing an exaggerated speech, they are staggering through a possibly poorly edited script. It is possible to tell that the Japanese Seiyuu are not doing this.

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Dubs can be good when there are things English-speakers can simply do better than Japanese-speakers. For the most part that means portraying American characters and black people.

The problem is it tends to all go to shit when there are cute girls involved. Which is weird because plenty of Western CARTOONS can easily find good cute girl voices.

And even IF it's a "westaboo" show, they still fuck it up nine times out of ten. Black Lagoon's dub was great, but, in comparison, look at fucking Jormungand's.

>>120620388
This has to be a fandub. This just can't really be an ACTUAL dub.

>>120625741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0yQOwZ72Tk

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>>120621736
>Himy name is Chiyo and I'm 45 years old

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these threads are retarded, there are good and bad dubs. end of fucking story.

>>120625658
>get green texted at.
the fuck

>>120622318

holy fuck that is glorious

>>120627113
>there are good and bad dubs
you just posted a perfect one

>>120627246
i agree

>>120627113
>>120627246
>>120627317
Jesus christ no, do I need to post the clip again? That dub is the perfect example of a bad, lazily done dub.

>>120626879
>Most English VAs

And this is your problem. Some faggot who barely watches dubs is claiming to know every VA in existence.

>>120627367
It's not difficult to know every dub VA when there are five of them.

>>120627342
>somebody likes B! How dare they not like A! I will insist on showing you how B is bad and A is good until you agree!

>>120621066
but the monster was voiced by gene simmons

I think I've enjoyed 2 dubbed anime. Cowboy Bebop, which is no surprise, and Spice and Wolf. Just about every other dub I've happened upon is pretty bad. I kind of liked Johnny Yong Bosch's Vash but the rest of the cast was shit.

>>120627398
epic

>>120627410
What exactly do you think that this board is for? You're the one who posted it, why am I not allowed to disagree?

>>120627440
the guy who played Wolfwood was pretty good, so was Knives.
that's about it though.

>>120619689
Why would they bother dubbing this in the first place? All the otaku moe lovers are going to be fine with subs, and won't bother with the dub. What's the point?

>>120627447
>you're the one who posted it

guess again
and this board should be about discussing the actual anime and it's content, but who's voicing the characters

>>120627532
>the voice acting of the characters is not part of the content of anime

Do you watch all anime on mute or something?

>>120627520
>otaku moe lovers

This is still a thing?

>>120627488
True, they were alright now that I remember. It's been so many years. It was mainly the two insurance chicks that were annoying.

>>120627552
No anon, every anime now is about manly men and gay sex, no more cute girls, didn't you hear?

>>120627440
Personally, I don't get the love for the Spice and Wolf dub, everyone is just so unemotive and bored sounding. Horo sounds like she's trying, but that isn't enough. The sub is way better.

I like Cowboy Bebop and cromartie.


>>120627532
What, your post descended into gibberish there at the end.

>>120627592
No, I meant the whole otaku identity thing.
I got nothing against cute girls doing cute things aspect.

>>120626240
The original English was "chasm" so it fits.

>>120627520
Is that why dubfags only defend Action Shlock, and never any SoL shows?

I'm starting to think you do come from /co/ when you say shit like that.

>>120627612
>Personally, I don't get the love for the {{ x }} dub

This is basically me for almost any dub besides a few okay ones that I can understand people rallying around.

It seems like people choose things at random and go "OBVIOUSLY this is better than the original, everyone agrees", when there's really nothing noteworthy about it at all.

>>120627674
I've seen plenty of SoL dubs, though. Most of them were pretty decent.