Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata

MEGUMI WILL WIN, NOW YOU CAN DROP THIS SERIES.

Seriously, other girls fags, fuck off.

No Waifu wars allowed.

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>>120578896
nah

>>120578843
What a great OP

MEGUMI A SHIT.

>>120579165
Not canon to the LN.

>>120579165
Shithead.

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>>120578843
reposting from last thread

Let's make this thread comfy.

>>120578843
I don't care if she wins or not. The boring main girl is still worst.

>>120579228
They can only be comfy once eririfags leave.

>>120579165
Best girl finally won.

>>120579275
Let's make sure Eririfags leave then.

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Megumi backstory when

>>120579228
You know, I don't know why everyone has to fight over Utaha, Megumi, and Eriri. They're all cute. Seriously. I'd marry any of the three, and while I like Utaha the best, they're all amazing and having them on screen is a joy to watch. I don't know why everyone wants to hate, any time they're on the screen I'm having fun. This show is too fun to watch.

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>>120579165
Have you ever watched eps 00? At first, I don't know what she was rambling about. But the latest eps has been made clear that Eriri supports Megumi.

>>120579265
Pleb detected.

>>120579343
You truly have the mindset to make for a comfy thread anon.

>>120579275
No, it will only be comfy if people (and you of course) don't reply to bait!

>>120579209
change normal to 'average'

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These threads are great

megumi needs to bring her subtle quips and comments back for episode 4.

>>120579275
More like we can only have comfy threads if people stop trying to shove their opinions down people's throats and respect other people's opinions without baiting. Like it or not, Megumifags have become obnoxious for constantly pushing their girl as best.

>>120579165
So why is the Eiri in the anime such a cunt?

>>120579449
Nigga, truth doesn't hurt and she's objectively the best.

>>120579456
Because she hasn't been dere in over 10 years.

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>>120579456
Because MC is being a cunt to her.

>>120579456
>cunt
She isn't, but go ahead and keep samefagging that.

>>120579343
You're the proof that Utahafags are chill.

>>120579449
>Megumifags have become obnoxious for constantly pushing their girl as best.

That's what everyone does. Don't be buttmad because she's more popular than your favorite girl.

>>120579343
I love you and your mindset m8. I also love them all, but favoring one girl doesn't mean I hate the rest.

>>120579410
>ERIRIR
>Yellow Purple

Is it okay to self-insert as Megumi?
I'm pretty boring too.

>>120579469
>Proving my point

>>120579528
Do you have a boring body as well?

>>120579469
Good job proving him right.

>>120579265
You haven't watched enough anime to get it yet. Too bad.

>>120579528
Only if you are a girl, and not a little one

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BTFO

>>120579546
>>120579567
Whatever man, she's gonna win and that's what matters.

Am I supposed to dislike the "new and improved" Megumi?

Because I do.

>>120579565
Yeah.

>>120579502
People can support their girl as best without being obnoxious. Megumifags can't seem to grasp this concept.

If there's anyone who doesn't deserve to win in this, it's Eriri.
She had 2 chances and she blew them up.
No 3rd time's the charm bullshit, the first one should have been enough.

>>120579449
That's what every girl fanbase do, did you intentionally miss the fang/ZR circlejerk?

>>120579449
Just because most patients in Japan are Japanese, doesn't mean they are sickly. It just that they have bigger population comparatively.

Just take a look at Michirufags for example.

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>her character song starts playing
Fucking aots moment. How are you supposed to compete with this much perfection?

>>120579631
Eririfags are the same.

Only Utahafags have any right to say they're better.

>>120579589
But it's the same old Megumi laughing as she absorbs the other girls strengths.

She won't change, because she was always in control. She's always known exactly what she's doing. EP2 was the perfect example of her ability to play the MC like a fiddle. So many perfect digs.

>two girls duke it out for the MC like a regular LN harem
>neither of them have any shot
This is kinda clever, like there is an extra heroine.

but /a/non i love all the girls can we all be friends

>>120579494
Tell me one thing she's done in four episodes for MC besides hit him or yell at him.

>>120579657
>implying Michirufags are few but they're the worst

>>120579714
>bitches duking it out and completely missed stealth-chan winning under their nose

>>120579685
>her ability to play the MC like a fiddle.
To what end tho? I can't see her motivation.

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>>120579666
I got pretty hot and bothered when she appeared.
>>120579714
>two girls fighting over second place
Its hilarious.

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>>120579505

>>120579647

>>120579631
>fang/ZR circlejerk?
People loving fang/ZR and fapping to it isn't the same as saying objective best/claiming truth and replying to every post that isn't loving Megumi to enforce this best rule Megumifags have in their mind.

>>120579667
The main thing you can fault Eririfags of is taking baits and being defensive, but they react because of Megumifags hating and for being obnoxious in the first place.

>>120579789
I love it when a song plays when a character makes an appearance.

Why is Megumi so best, bros?

>>120579773
Fun. She's a cute, friendless sociopath with a crush and plenty of opposition.

>>120579667
Utaha and Michiru fags barely participate in the threads.

>>120579757
Nice context there. I bet you think Shizuka is a cunt too because she hits and scolds 8man.

>>120579841
Please stop this meme.

>>120579866
>friendless
>sociopath
She has a few friends
She is not a sociopath as she is not charming and doesn't seem like a self serving cunt
>crush
With who? Nothing like that has been shown

>>120579949
wat

>>120579912
There's only one or two Michurufag. Utaha barely have a handful of fans, and they play it smart by letting Eririfags and Megumifags destroy each other.

Tomoya vision is when it gets all blue and shit right?

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Eriri is best. It's fine if you disagree since that's just my opinion.

>>120579991
>tfw the Michirufags are just myself and another anon

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>>120579757
Tell one thing MC did for her besides abuse their past relationship to try to make her work for him for free?

In this last episode she went for his home because she was worried he wouldn't have motivation to work, which was correct, and then helped Megumi, which she saw as a rival, to try to motivate him toward his project.

>>120579919
Shizuka is a teacher, she has all the right to scold/hit (though, I don't remember her doing that) Hachiman

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>>120579953
>Would your ideal girl fall in love like this?
She is totally digging the MC.

>>120580032
HAVING SHIT OPINIONS

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>>120579666
I pretty much fell in love during that scene.

Best girl, hands down.

>>120579821
>>120579821
>but they react because of Megumifags hating and for being obnoxious in the first place.
Just like Megumifags react to Eririfag baits and general antagonism. And don't pretend Eririfags don't do the same thing of claiming her as best and reply to every post either.

>>120580050
>>120580056
That scene is scripted. That girl is not even her.

>>120580050
Acting my good sir! She was acting a script drilled in her head. Nothing in ep 00-3 has shown that she feels something special for Tomoya.

>>120580040
But she said mean things to him and acts like an asshole.

>>120580042
Shizuka does do that to 8man at times, and they aren't always for teacherly reasons.

Tomoya and Eriri are childhood friends. At the level of hitting and yellow Eriri does, it's just like a cute quarrel between friends who are upset at each other. You can feel the tension in the air.

>>120580106

>>120579685

>>120580050
Read the context, Anon! She is falling in love yes, in context of just acting.

I'm not denying that she will. But not right now.

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This isn't even a contest at this point, it's a one sided massacre. Also Tomoya and Megumi have such good chemistry with each other. Lines like this are giving me heart attacks.

>>120580106
But it was so good.
Utaha is truly best girl.

>>120580100
Megumifags don't react when they are usually the ones to start it. What they do is normal, not a reaction.

>>120580145
Don't tell me you are one of those "Shizuka likes 8man romantically" morons. You aren't one, right?

>>120580215
Don't associate obvious reverse trolls with legit Megumifags.

>>120580149
The scene in question IS scripted though, and it's done by Utaha. Megumi won't change, but the role she was playing isn't her, but a girl Tomoya finds is ideal, which isn't of course the typically plain and indifferent Megumi.

>>120580168
>stays over a man's room twice
>cancels her family trip trip
>buys new clothes

What do you think her parents would say knowing these?

>>120580221
>Thinks she isn't part of the harem

Pass whatever you're smoking.

>>120579821
>eririfags and their victim complex
It was always you against THK in the first place and Megumi bashing on the side. Of course things didn't explode back then because Megumifags are low in number.

What is Megumi's goal in this? Why does she let Tomoya do whatever he wants with her? Why she go along with him?

>>120580349
It's FUN.

>>120580341
>Megumifags are low in number.
Delusional.

>>120580169
>Eriri gave her the clothes
>Utaha gave her character
>Megumi gave her all

All girls are best girls. Am I rite, m8?

>>120580278
That's what I'm saying. Her personality shines in her acting. It felt genuine. That's her showing that she can have different sides to her.

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>>120580139
>But she said mean things to him
So did Megumi in the second episode but as longs as they are fun remarks people don't care. And he deserves most of those comments.
>acts like an asshole
People aren't friendly when people ask them for huge favors and then dump them, keeps ignoring them for another person and don't even put effort in the thing he wants you help with.

>>120580416
I never thought about it that way.
You're right, anon.

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As we all know, this scene takes the cake (so far).

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>>120580411
Your beloved fellow eririfag even provide the proof in the other thread.

https://archive.moe/a/thread/119498816/
https://archive.moe/a/thread/119525219/
https://archive.moe/a/thread/119547149/

Don't you ever pretend that she had more than two or three fans before the seond episode.

>>120580349
She's a nice friend that was only waiting for someone special to notice her.

>>120580474
What if they had a scene like this every few episodes?

Can we stop having this discussion when we already know Megumi is going to win?

Also, she's still the best.

>>120580349
She's an easy girl, you could tell she would give away her virginity without betting an eyeslash if anyone begged her enough

>>120580009
Pls respond

Why does Aniplex refuse to give this show any budget?

>>120580341
Too bad for you I'm far from being the only one who calls out THK.

Megumifags rode on what THK started. And they follow that kind of obnoxious shitposting while praising their girl to heaven.

>>120580528
>that character insert song

hng

>>120580384
That is an awful excuse. No one stops their family vacation, asks a couple of girls on how to make a guy motivated, and stays with a guy two nights just for FUN. She has an angle.

>>120580503
Hanging around with Tomoya won't get anyone to notice her.

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Eriri is Jesus

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>>120580573
They spend their money in the most appropriate scenes. That's enough for me.

>>120580580
I actually can't get past this scene. I think it was actually the best one I've seen in recent time.

>>120580604
She was always a lonely girl, Tomoya is probably her closest friend.

>>120580474
can you make a shorter version that ends at the end of the insert song?

>>120580629
She's also utter shit like Jesus.

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>>120580604
>Hanging around with Tomoya won't get anyone to notice her.
She's noticed by the two jelly losers.

>>120580644
I can see the Saekano director going through A-1 building begging for frames floor to floor to make this scene.

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>tfw megumi will never be real
what is the point in living

Is Megumi cursed to be unnoticeable until someone makes the effort to notice her, and then they just can't ignore her?

>>120580729
Yeah, give me a couple min.

>>120580644
Is there a more perfect waifu?

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>>120580733

>>120580729
>>120580814

Do you want subs or no subs?

>>120580827
I said Jesus, not god.

>>120580502
You should check the fucking archive better. They were hardly few even in the first week. The real shitstorm started up on the 10th/11th, and there were plenty of Megumifags by then thanks to spoilers.

>>120579410
Since Megumi will win she should have been favoured by Polish King, not by Teutonic Grand master

How'd Megumi managed to blow off her family vacation and stay over at a boy's room twice in a row without her parents beating whooping her ass?

>>120580733
>Also hates Jesus too

There's a special place in hell for scums like you.

>>120580852
with subs would be nice

more like dum amirite?

>>120580886

It's implied she doesn't have many friends. They were probably glad she managed to find one.

>>120580852
The subs make it more impacting.

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>>120580453
This episode was pretty much rolling like that. Eriri and Utaha when came to MC's place, none of them could motivate MC to write a project proposal. Megumi also hinted that if she came alone, she wouldn't be able to do anything.

It was trough everyone's effort that Tomoya got back to his feet.

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>>120580772
There were, /a/non, dozens of Megumis around you in your life so far. It's just that they were too plain for you to notice they were there

Just finished ep 3.
That settles it, Megumi is undeniably the best, and it is absolutely impossible for the other 4 to overtake her in the remaining 8 episodes.

Has there ever been such perfect winner in a harem before?

>>120581035
Inaban.

>>120580940
Just like Eriri in that spinoff. Her parents are so great.

>>120580962
I hope the show ends up being about the value of teamwork instead of being about one girl being the best. Especially if we get a few more scenes like this out of it.

>>120580976
But are they just as cute? Remember that Kato is attractive and cute, but she just lacks presence.

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>>120580913
>>120580947

Here you go, anons.

http://a.pomf.se/mflezu.webm

>>120581088
>harem

>>120581103
perfect. thanks anon

>>120581103
You're doing kamisama's keikaku door, Anon

>>120580752
I don't get why they got so mad.

>>120581111
Then Senjougahara.

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>>120581035
You know it is true.

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>>120581014
>literally gets more perfect with every episode
By the time the show ends, we'll have some sort of perfection paradox

>>120581179
Probably because Tomoya said Kato should have slept on his shoulders, as he implied that he was her boyfriend, while the other two still liked him.

>>120581202
>>120581239
Good girls but far from perfect.

>>120581103
Allahu Akabr.

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>>120581179
Pure. Jelly.

>>120581262
>while the other two still liked him.
That doesn't make much sense, they looked like they were pushing her towards him. I never got the impression that they liked him anyways.

>>120581324
Girls help each other despite being rivals. That's anime for you.

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>>120581312
That scene was hilarious.

>>120581324
Remember in episode two when he said that he's chosen, and the two girls ask him which one?
They both still like him.

>>120581410
Best girl.

>>120581324
Anon, you are dense. One is tsundere and the other is kuudere, both are tsun and kuu for the MC.

>>120581240
All I know is that this cannot go downhill from here on.

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>>120581324
They like him, which is why they compromised with the plan to give him him motivation for his project, not to make him date Megumi.

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>>120581103
Thank you based, Anon!

>>120579343
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.

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>>120581312
Tomoya wanted to taste her delicious saliva.

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>Nante ne~

This is too much for my heart.

So, does Kato actually talk differently between the scripted version and the actual version?
Is the scripted version more formal and elegant or something?

>>120581595
The fucking best.

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Anyone have any idea what he was thinking?

shit

>>120581571
>>>/reddit/

>>120581449
It'll go down hill when Eiri or Utah cause forced drama at episode nine.

>>120581625
>>120581625
He basically says she lacks presence

>>120581640
Not every meme you don't recognize is reddit shit newfaggot

>>120581625
You know how Kato kind of just went with the flow? Maybe he wanted her to push him a bit into doing the stuff that she wanted to do.

>>120581595
I wonder if there'll be a group that subs the insert song. I wonder what the song is saying about Kato.

>>120581685
Hahaha cucked.

>>120581716
The song is about her being the best, just the best

>>120581757
So shit.

>>120581685
>could've won the bowl when they were kids
>fucked it all up
>could've won it again when they made up
>fucked it up again
No one has deserved to lose harder than Eriri did.

>>120581757
Mitcher?

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Is Eriri is a butt goddess?

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>>120581740

>>120581799
No.

>>120581740
>cucked
Go back to /tv/, shitposter.

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>>120581786
Especially when Tomoya went to the effort of making the school a perfect place for both of them.
She ruined it all.

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>>120581798

>>120581757
Why is this making me feel aroused?

>>120581863
Guildy pls go

>>120581863
It's hot.

Why did they ruin Kato this episode? Her character was fantastic last episode but, by the end of this episode, her character was full of feelings and shit. I don't if I can like her character like that.

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>>120581799
Absolutely.

>>120581916
>Why did they ruin Kato this episode?

Fuck off shitposting faggot.

This show always makes me want to stop procrastinating and write fanfiction. I don't even care who wins.

>>120581916
It was merely an act!

>>120581932
Reminder this will never be scanned.

>>120581938
Man, I really need to get back into writing and drawing my VN.

>>120581625
Facesitting.

>>120581786
>>120581839
Eriri didn't know what Tomoya did when they were kids. She obviously still believed she would get bullied again, that's why she stayed away from him. Tomoya held that grudge, but Eriri was hurting too and he didn't know about her situation.

But Eriri did choose her dream as a creator over staying by Tomoya's side. She still likes him, but she has other priorities that are higher than romance.

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>>120581103
>that insert song timing
Good job A-1.

>>120581916
She was acting.

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>MC cannot make opposing sides join force to his cause.
>Megumi single-handedly putting truce on them work for a goal.

>>120582042
>choose her dream as a creator over staying by Tomoya's side. She still likes him, but she has other priorities that are higher than romance
Eriri confirmed for better character for not just being tsundere who wants the D above all else.

>last season was Minefags vs Esdeathfags now is Eririfags vs Megumifags

Why am I always choose this kind of anime?

>>120581932
Mhmm, DFC and perfect ass. What a combination to have.

>>120582173
DAT SHIT TASTE

I don't know if you remember me, but, can you explain to me this miracle of the universe?

Megumi best girl

>>120582142
>>120582042

She could have left Tomoya's circle while still having a chance to win, but she fucked up. It's not that she's a better character because she has other priorities, she's just inept.

>>120582103
>Please help me win Aki-kun!

>>120581916
It was only an act and only Kato could pull it trough. Its one of her strong point.

>>120582142
The thing that got me was that she went to the other circle just because Tomoya wouldn't force her to draw.

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Why do the other harem shows have better threads than this show even though Saekano is aots material?

>>120581938
>>120582005
I feel exactly the same

>>120582203
Literally homo of highest tier here.

>>120582169
Except that the tsundere is on the losing and blown the fuck out side in this series. A more accurate comparison would be Shiinafags and Aoyamafags.

>>120582268
Because the other 5 harem are literal copypaste of each other.
But I like Fafnir the best.

>>120582333
DAMN NIGGA Me too

>>120582333
>not absolute duo
Do you even shield to?

>>120582223
Being emotional fragile/weak is a flaw of hers, but it can be said to be a moe trait too, you know.

Also, not really. Tomoya got depressed and upset not because Utaha and Eriri told him too late before he could discuss or convince them otherwise to not go, but because they left him. However they could had approached it, in the end they still will have to leave him. That's what Tomoya cared about.

>>120582333
>watching more than one harem per season
That's like enjoying having a harem of harems. You should always be monogamous when it comes to harems per season.

anyone know of any other good girls with averagemoe?

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>>120582103
That's one of the reasons I like her so much. She gets shit done and acts nothing like a boring or plain girl, putting the title of the series to shame.

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>>120581757
>you will never be assaulted by Eiri's silky slim scented twintails

My chest hurts.......a lot....

>>120582500
The D is just too much for me

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>>120582224
The most irritating thing is, she is a nice girl to both of them. Rejecting her will only makes them looks like a bitch.

>>120582532
Harem aren't waifus.
They're more like disposable harlots.

>>120581324
You're more dense than fucking Raku you bitch

>>120582103
That's typical in harem. Girls are always easy on other girls and hardly ever wrong them in harem. Even if they are competing, they make it fair or support the girl anyways for some girl reasons. And it's always the MC's fault or is the one who gets punished whenever there's a case of being a pervert, making girls cry, and so on.

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>>120582702
Not always

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>>120579586
This should be the official webm for the average Saekano thread.

The characters accurately represent their respective fans there. It's perfect.

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>>120582540
I guess you could say it's a deconstruction

I can already see the drama when Kato falls in love with MC and she still has to "act like the girl of his dreams". It's like she's just a template ;_;

Poor Kato

Alright, in the spirit of actual discussion, I'm going to bite the bullet here and ask: "what makes really Kato the 'best girl'"?

It's obvious that she's cute, and I enjoy her deadpan conversation delivery immensely, but I can't seem to wrap my head around her being "the best" at all.

There's just something off about Kato - mainly her motivations/reason for any of her actions. I just can't seem to grasp her as a character.

Coming from some of the other spinoff material (namely the manga), as well as conversation/information from the show itself, it's clear that the other two "heroines" have a history with our protagonist, and are enamored with him. They've known each other for a longer period of time, and interacted enough for the two to understand, somewhat, their feelings for him.

However, Kato, on the other hand has only just started being on speaking terms with the protagonist, and she's already comfortable with entering his house, staying the night, and even leaving a family trip to come meet him?

Any extra character motivations are just completely non-existant. I've seen comparisons between Kato and Senjougahara of the Monogatari series, and this doesn't seem to be the same either. Crab-chan at least had a series of interactions and her own troubles that caused her to seek out any "pillar of support" which happened to be Araragi, and her troubles were even fleshed out very early on in the series. But with Kato it just feels unnatural, and breaks my immersion, my suspension of disbelief, ever so slightly.

So, please, I would love to have an explaination for why Kato is Best Girl, as, while I do love her dialogue, I find myself drawn to the delicious thighs of Kasumigaoka Utaha more.

>>120582269
I've been drawing for over a year, and have the first act for two out of the five routes already done in that time. It's so tedious though.

>>120582702
Except that both Eriri and Utaha are hostile towards each other.

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>>120582702
then why was everyone a bitch to Mirei?

>>120582922
who

>>120582922
She's not an actual member of the harem that's why.

>>120582847
She is essentially the genderbent version of themselves.
Plain, boring , normal compare to the other high achievers and 2 hottest girls in school.
Megumi is essentially the viewer self insert and shows how a normal girl can actually rise up and end up besting the 2hottest girls in school.

>>120582922
Nigga, you need to re-watch the episode. The club girls were angry at the MC, not her. And they should be since the MC clearly fucked it up by leaving the misunderstanding opened and not fixed.

>>120582861
I have the entire scenario preplanned.
I just never feel like writing it.

>>120582746
>>120582874
Rivals who stand on the same level are the exception to the rule. Japan has a huge hard-on doing this. You see this almost everywhere that deals with rivals on opposing spectrum. Yozora/Sena, Yukino/Yui, Orange/Silver, Aika/Twoearle, Eleonora/Mila, Eriri/Utaha, etc.

>>120582922
They weren't. How the hell did you arrived to that conclusion anyways?

>>120583011
So basically no matter how good you are, someone out of nowhere can come up and upstage you, seems legit... Years of past chemistry spent with the other 2 all disregarded because the MC happens to be a faggot.

>>120583300
Yes.
Everyone love an underdog story and Megumi is the girl most people can relate to the most.
Invisible, not many friends, no club, just go to school and then go home with minimal social contact.

>>120582847
She doesn't love Tomoya unlike the other two. She sticks with him because he was the only one to pay attention to her. She sees that he's a fun company, and above all, has ambitions and goals, which is why she feels compelled to help him out.

>>120582847
First of all, not all people likes something for the same reason. Also,

>I just can't seem to grasp her as a character.

Thats the point, Anon. Katou Megumi designed as an ambiguous character to break your stereotypical immersion on typical harem heroines. It makes you wonder and inquire like what you're doing now. What she was thinking? What is her motivation? Is she a pushover? Or actually though? Where will she draw the line? Is she liking the MC? etc. But rather than an "X"-box she is actually/also a white canvas which could absorb any kind of color painted into her (like she did in this episode). She also has the lowest AT-Field which makes her identity attribute is weaker, making her a little bit harder to like from the get-go, but also very hard to hate. It also help that there are not many characters like these. So, people with more experience in watching harem series felt her character was rather refreshing to watch (and being the main heroine, no less).

Well for me, I love her exchange with Tomoya. And how she is less 'desperate' than any other heroines.