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What are some messages from Miyazaki's films?

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What are some messages from Miyazaki's films?
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Messages are for plebs.
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War is bad, m'kay?
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>>120497458
Well fuck you, too.
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Don't hide from the world because of past regrets?
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Wind, Airplanes, Kites!
Flying stuff is awesome!!
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Anime was a mistake
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"I like the aeroplanes. Especially Italian jobs"
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If you design Airplanes, expect people to die in them.

none of them returned
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>>120497442
Laws don't apply to pigs
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Things used to be better.
Nature good.
War bad.
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I don't usually care for Ghibli movies, but I really enjoyed Whisper of the Heart recently. Miyazaki didn't direct, but he did the screenplay and storyboards. I don't think there was a message, just a story.
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>>120497442
Don't kill people. It's bad.

Don't cut down trees.

Do not try to build society at all.

If you find that you are really confused as to what the fuck is going on or why it's even happening, start kissing people and it should all start to work itself out.
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>>120497442
Women make perfectly decent main characters in stories.
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People get sick and die
You should cry more often
Families should fight, then make up.
It's wrong to fuck your sister
War is bad because people die and lose their homes
Man will destroy the earf and you should feel guilty.
Disney pays in US currency
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>>120497442
I love tanks and warplanes but I hate war.
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Would he still hate war so much if Japan didn't end up losing WW2?
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People bad
Nature good
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Progress is evil
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>>120497442

Anime was a fucking mistake
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>>120498494
I don't think he liked Imperial Japan.
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>>120498740
Yeah after the fact.
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>>120498752
lol
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Maybe if you'll make your work "atmospheric" enough, people will pretend it's good despite shitty characters and lackluster story.
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>>120498771
>lol
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People are pigs.
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>>120497442
>humans are bad
>war is bad
>technological progression at the expense of the environment is bad.
>you should feel bad for liking these things.
Well fuck you you fucking old chink cunt. Technology a best you just an old man that has lost touch with a world that left you behind long ago.
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>>120498810
kek
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>>120498840
I'm lost, what are you trying to say.
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>>120498841
>war is bad
>there are still people that exist in this world that believe this load of horseshit
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>>120498752
Why was I expecting him to turn into a plane? Do I need sleep?
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>>120497491
expect mankind thrives in war
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>>120498891
Laughing Out Loud
What are new to the internet?
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>>120497442
Nature is great, cities are bad, cities are really bad, planes are cools except when they bombing people, war resolve entirely about bombing people and lolis are delicious.
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>>120498895
How is it really good?
I'm curious.
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Ameriburgers are not human and should all be sent to Jewrope where they came from.
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>>120498933
>What are new to the internet?
just to 9gag, also how old are you?
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>>120498969
51
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>>120498960
War stimulates technological progression. Same as the space programs. The constant game of outdoing each other breeds competition and excellence. Better guns to beat better armor, research provides jobs to the researchers, manufactured goods helps to give jobs to the lower skilled and gives a sense of unity in times of war when people set aside their differences for the greater good of their nations. And of course $ is to be made in war. Money accounts for everything in this world.
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>>120497442
Buy more chicken
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>>120498974
Aren't you a bit too old for the internet.
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>>120499027
It also is used to end tyranny and injustice. Sometimes even genocides.
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>>120499027

Yes, I like Metal Gear Solid too.
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>>120499050
Nigga I was around before the internet, when all we had were BBSs.. Then later Prodigy and CompuServe.
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DUDE NATURE LMAO
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>>120499050
I can remember when the only internet search engines were Archie, Veronica, Jughead, and Betty.
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>>120499083
>>120499107

Noice, when did start watching anime? and what is your favorite one?
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>>120499027
>>120498841
>Miyazaki's hates war
>Miyazaki's hates humans
>Miyazaki's hates technological progression
Miyazaki confirmed for being anti-human.
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>>120499131
Long ago. It guess it started while I was stationed at Kadena AFB.
Gunslinger Girl maybe. It has a special place. But it's hard to pick just 1.
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>>120497442
>Japan dindu nuffin
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>>120499056
There is absolutely nothing wrong with tyranny and genocides. And injustice is a subjective concept anyway.
If we didn't end a certain genocide, we wouldn't have Jews constantly robbing us blind and manipulating media to make more profit.
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goddamn /a/ is full of clueless shits
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>>120498933
It's an outdated acronym.
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>>120499027
JUST LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS AFTER NINE ELEVEN
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>>120499066
Jiro Horikoshi and Hal Emmerich are pretty much the same character.
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>>120499215
GTFO normalfag
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>>120499263
Alljuda needs to pay for what they've done and people all around the world should unite to completely eradicate the hook-nosed parasite.
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>>120499215
What's the view like up on that ivory tower?
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>>120499223
>what is NSA
>what is mass surveillance
>what is safety over freedom
Stay loyal citizen
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Don't ever breed
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>>120499355
>>>/reddit/

Jesus fuck, just go back to whereever you came from
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>>120499383
>not crossbreeding with giant bugs
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>>120499333
>ivory tower
More like a formerly decent country kikes turned into a shithole to make more money.
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>>120499355
Whoosh
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>>120499400
You seem frustrated anon-kun, is there something you would like to talk about that has been concerning you as of late?
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>>120499451
To be fair your post was kind of confusing. This thread needs to be closed asap.
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>>120499400
>He can't understand sarcasm
More like you need to jump in a shallow fucking hole and bury yourself you fucking soft cocked pansy. Suck shit faggot
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>>120499157
Took you that long to realize that?
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>>120499501
Thanks nagisa
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>>120499460
Not really, its a direct quote. Theres already sundowner posted in this thread.
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>>120499451
fuck off with your reddit memes.
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"I love tomboys"

Seriously like 90% of his films star a tomboy.
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Female characters are always shit.
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>>120499615
>he doesn't love tomboys
what are you some kind of a faggot?
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>>120499635
Tomboys and blondes are awful and need to be shot.
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>>120499635
Who said I didn't like tomboys? That isn't even implied by my post.
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>>120499635
>liking tomboys
>calling other people faggots
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>>120499646
>>120499681
samefag
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>>120499157
it's pretty funny when you realize how out of touch he is
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>>120497442
where do i get subbed miyazaki and anno interviews?
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>>120500746

From your butt, faggot.
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>>120500777
>>>/b/
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>>120500805
Rollin
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Is everybody on this board underage?
>inb4 only ironically
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>>120497539

>pillow-hugging muh-waifu-daisuki figurine-cummers being this butthurt

life is good
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>>120499027

>le Nietzche-loving highschooler face

such wow
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>>120497539
The ability to portray blowing air is the peak of animation skill.
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>/a/ is so insecure about their lifestyle that they throw an immense hissyfit when someone who actually works in the industry points out what worthless lowlife scum otakus actually are
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>>120498740
>>120498756
He stated himself that he was lucky to be born when he was, because if he were born 10 years earlier he likely would have been indoctrinated and swept up in the fascist youth movement.
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>>120501043
>>>/co/
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>>120497791
>>120498815
>I'd much rather be a pig than a Fascist.
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>>120501549
I am not an otaku and I believe he is a piece of shit. What now?
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>>120497539
>Flying stuff is awesome!!
This.
Basically, this.
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>>120498423
Nice bait
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>>120498841
Moar like
>technological progression at the expense of the environment is bad
>technological progression, on itself, is good.
As seen in Nausicaa (his "magnus opus") and The WInd Rises (his "retirement work"),
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>>120499027
Oh, because we've NEVER heard that edgy argument before...
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He's literally the Chairman.
>Hates science and loves nature
>Is the chairman of a major technological corporation that manufactures and develops devices that breaks the natural limits of humanity, which he detests
>Is the founder and creator of one of the most well-known anime studios in the world, yet still hates anime
>Uses his position as a chairman to steal said device and punish the creators of the nature-defying device
>Uses his position as well known animator to bad-mouth people who enjoy anime he dislikes(i.e. all anime ever)
We just haven't witnessed the point in time when Miyazaki turns into a giant black plane and covers the world in giant bugs.
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>>120497533
You are talking anno.
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>>120497539
>anno and miyazaki being autistic about planes together
This is so cute. Do you think they stim together when no one's looking? Is Anno more of a hooter, or does he make more guttural sounds? Does Miyazaki hit himself sometimes?
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Hello /a/.
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>>120497539
if you watched kiki you wouldn't be saying this bullshit.
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>>120497936
This. Miyazaki in a nutshell.
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Nature will kill you.
People will kill you.
Technology will kill you.
Girls lead you to heaven.

But Nahoko has gone to heaven alone.
Nothing left. You must try to live is the last message.
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>>120503713
>anime was a mistake

context ?
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>>120504033
The economy.
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>>120504033
Otakus as the main audience of the industry.
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>>120504033
He is a bitter old fuck.
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>>120504306
But he's also right.
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>>120498442
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So does he hate anime in general or just otaku pandering shows?
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>>120498440
The fourth one is blasphemy.
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That one retarded fan-comic about him always cracks me up.
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>>120499613
How did you know this was a Reddit meme? Explain yourself
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>>120497442
"anime was a mistake"
basically he spat on three decades of people loving his shit.
I thought you had balls somewhere, Myiazaki.
I was wrong. just die already if life disappointed you so much
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ITT: 13-olds trying to prove they're not 12 anymore by spewing memes about Miyazaki's works being "for kids".
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>>120504339
>>120504433
ITT: reading comprehension problems in grown manchildren
or underage
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>>120503206
It's a joke you stupid fucking idiot.
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>>120504333
An opinion is not really ''right'' or ''wrong''.
I know /a/ has difficulty understanding that.
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>the intellect of the average fan of modern anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuyfcCXrnr8
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>>120504333
>anime should only be used to tell artsy children's stories
No, he isn't.
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>>120504587
Which tripfag was this?
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>>120504480
There's not even need to acknowledge them
>>120504501
reading cohomprension problems? he outright said his grief comes from anime not helping people opening to the world but the reverse.
what kind of fucking megalomaniac can have the arrogance of feeling guilty for a whole social phenomenon like he was the only damn responsible? and what's worse, disrespecting his own shit is like saying "fuck you" to to few sane kids that felt something meaningful watching it
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>>120497442
>stop liking things that I don't like
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>>120504587
>What a surprise, the "average" of anything is terrible
He lived in a bubble for 60 years?
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>>120497442
Old planes are pretty cool
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>>120504433
>"anime was a mistake"
Amusing how googling the line only brings up funnyjunk, devianart and thumbler shit and not one serious source of him saying that.
What is found in serious sources is him saying that the anime industry sucks because it's full of otakus and saying it to be the wrong thing to do (not a direct quotation).
TL;DR: you all got trolled (I mean the ones ITT who think the line was actually said, and are asspained at it).
And I salute whoever made that pasta, because he trolled /a/ real good.
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>>120504720
Trains a shit
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>>120504739
but buses rock
and fly
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>>120504640
why don't you take some time and think your comments through, big guy
i can't even make out any b8 from this shit

>>120504705
no i'm p sure that's just wrong
your average anime production was much more worthwhile and intellectually intriguing just a few decades ago.
obv there are exceptions but you can't deny this simple fact
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>>120504339
see
>>120504737
he's actually VERY bitter about "otaku pandering". Of course, his definition of what's an "otaku" and of what's "pandering" may or may not coincide with yours.
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>>120504737
It really doesn't matter if the subs of that interview are true or not, its pretty evident that its what he thinks.
>pasta
what pasta
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If anything, /a/'s reactions always proves that otakus and neets are really fucking terrible.
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>>120504853
>/a/'s reactions always proves that otakus and neets are really fucking terrible
I think posts like yours describe it much more better
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>>120504825
>what pasta
plainly the "Anime was a mistake" one, Anon.

You'll notice me not continuing the argument about if that is or isn't what he said or what he thinks, but an hobnest question deserves an honest answer
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>>120504872
http://www.thenile.com.au/
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>>120504818
>your average anime production was much more worthwhile and intellectually intriguing just a few decades ago.
>obv there are exceptions but you can't deny this simple fact
No, anime was mostly garbage shows for kids like western cartoons.
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>>120504822
>he's actually VERY bitter about "otaku pandering"
Except he isn't and you'd know this if you read what he actually said.
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>>120497442
>muh enviroment
>muh rose color pre-WWII Japan nostalgia
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>>120498911
You're a big guy
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>>120504896
Protip: You fell for shitty bait.
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>>120504896
Maybe, but most things had to be well thought out and quality was one of the highest considerations regarding many things. Mostly due to the respectively little amount of resources compared to today.

Now that everything is so easily marketable, there are more human and more financial resources overall, there is no need to make anything innovative or even visually intriguing, since you can now make easy cash from making the lowest common denominator shonen and slice-of-life shite
Literally 90% of anime i bothered to watch from this millenia has been lazily made trash for little kids.
I'm sure this is, to some degree, related to how Miyazaki feels
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>>120497539

top kek
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>>120505041
>but most things had to be well thought out and quality was one of the highest considerations regarding many things.
No, they weren't. It was always "lazily made trash for little kids". You're only remembering the few and far between that were actually good.

Go look up all the anime that came in a typical year in the 70s or 80s. It's 90% unwatchable crap.

The biggest difference between then and now is that there is a lot more anime being made due to the explosion of the manchild audience.
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All these selfhating faggot itt. Go back to /v/ if you hate anime so much.
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>>120505261
granted, i've hardly looked further than the classics and the things related to those in late 80's and the 90's, but almost all of them were good or atleast had some redeeming qualities to them.
The most obvious thing Miyazaki mentioned was the lack of real human interaction in today's anime, but you had that even in the most retarded sci-fi settings in the past, no matter how unrealistic the environments were. More effort went into thoughtful storytelling and dialogue that had actual purpose.

>now is that there is a lot more anime being made
and a clearly MUCH bigger percentage of that is absolute shite

even movies made for kids can be of great quality, and that is something anime specifically was above every other type of animation or film anyway, atleast for me
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>>120505527
something, in which anime*
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>>120503752
?
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>>120505527
>granted, i've hardly looked further than the classics
>Everything back then was gold
>Because I only ever watched the good stuff
Jesus christ.

>now is that there is a lot more anime being made
>and a clearly MUCH bigger percentage of that is absolute shite
Yes, that's how it works.

8/10 you fooled everyone.
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>>120505826
yeah that's a nice point to start nitpicking on, while ignoring the earlier statements about today's target audience.
i do have seen quite a bit, but ok, i'll bite:
name me a 5 worthwhile productions from different directors from the past 15 years and i'll give up
try steering away from the 3 most obvious ones, if you dont mind
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>>120504237
>Otakus as the main audience of the industry
Whats wrong with that?
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>>120506118
They want all anime to be mature anime for mature people,even though the market proves that otaku-related anime sells way better.
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>>120506088
What else is there to nitpick on, the hilarious notion you bring up that older anime had thoughtful storytelling and dialogue? When its all based on a handful of shows you watched?

No thanks, it's obvious your narrow and myopic view of the medium hinders you from any real discourse.
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>War is bad
>Planes are awesome
>Can we stuff something about the environment in there while we're at it?

Basically the recipe for any miyazaki movie with environment and war alternating between being the main theme and being shoehorned into the film for the hell of it.
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People are still believing this bullshit? These subs in these pictures arent even whats actually being said.
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>>120506245
>handful
or maybe your perception of 'classic' anime is just fairly basic and entirely dependent on literally the most popular things you come across on the internet?

It's hilarious of how even the handful of the most popular ones from the 90's are exponentially better than any selection of the most popular ones from this millenia. Or prove me wrong
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love conueers all
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>>120498895
E D G Y
D
G
Y
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>>120506411
>Prove me wrong
No thanks, same 4chan trap as always. I'll provide a list and you'll provide a counter-list of buzzwords on how everything is bad. Instead of the usual cat and mouse game lets just skip to the end where you deem me a shitposter and everything you said was right already.
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>>120499027
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What are you fags even arguing about?
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>>120502952
Do people in /co/ really think that cartoon is good ?
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Is Miyazaki or Urobutcher the bigger hack?
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>>120506593
I would love a list like that, actually.
I'm not trying to prove myself absolutely right, all this is just meant to support Miyazaki's initial claims. imo anyone who even tries to disagree with him is just an ignorant manchild who's Settling for low-quality anime

Your board culture for not spoonfeeding seems more like an excuse for not actually knowing anything about anime and to have delusional claims about all the time you spend on all this shit anime, and the fact that it's all somehow ironical or fun or something idk

All the reviews being so inflated and unreliable is because of all of you manchildren, i'm p sure 4chan is, in large, to blame for this shit.
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>>120499027
Say that to the people in east-ukraine. You really are disgusting if you actually think that war is a good thing.
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>>120506785
Cartoon isn't good in general.
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>>120504592
>anime should only be used to portray cute girls doing cute things, waifus and escapist fantasies
No, he is right
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Reminder that Miyazaki hates all sci-fi anime for painting a depressing picture of the future and thinks anime should only be about happy things.
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>>120502997
Why? He's the hero anime needs but doesn't deserve.
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Japan's cultural history and the common people were the REAL victims of industrialization and World War 2.
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>>120506819
>Your board culture for not spoonfeeding seems more like an excuse for not actually knowing anything about anime
It's because of archive and Google reverse image searching which leads you to whatever you want instead of clogging up the board with more shitty threads. Look at other anime sites, the majority of what's on their front page is recommendations and "help me find this anime".
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>>120506088
> you already know 3 obvious choices and somehow those don't count
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>>120503713
>>120504306
>>120506911
>>120504592
>falling for a shitty tumblr edit
kill yourselves, newfags
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>>120506819
>your board culture
Good to know you're a crossboarder. Fuck off
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>>120507085
>shitty tumblr edit
I thought it was made here to troll.
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>>120506819
>Your board culture for not spoonfeeding seems more like an excuse for not actually knowing anything about anime
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>>120507143
Look at the gif its an obvious tumblr gif
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>>120507064
I've got better things to do than to waste my time on shit shows. Try going back a bit. The popularity of all the shit anime is what defines what's successful on the market, what's most exposed in everywhere, what guarantees what type of show CAN even be realistically made with limited resources. I haven't even stumbled upon a single site that can filter mature anime from stuff that's for kids. In the end, the popularity of this otaku culture is what leads to the demise of anime, more or less. Not a hard concept to understand
>>120507122
>>120507080
>>120507189
lel here we go again
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>>120507273
Then again, it doesn't seem like you guys have much exposure to anything but that.
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>>120497442

"Anime was a shit-ass goddamn motherfucking mistakes niggers".
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>>120499027
12-year-old-who-thinks-he/she-is-smarter-than-everybody's argument.
War doesn't improve shit. Even if it does, it takes more than gives.
War is a loss for everybody, a minus profit. We could have done so much more.
pic related
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>>120507273
>The popularity of all the shit anime is what defines what's successful on the market
Yes, it's the same everywhere. Now if only there was a well described word that CAPITALized on such a free enterprise.

>I haven't even stumbled upon a single site that can filter mature anime from stuff that's for kids

Pack it up guys, we've been trolled.
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>war is bad

When will Japs stop being asspained that they got BTFO in WW2?

They only think it's bad because they lost.
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>>120507273
>In the end, the popularity of this otaku culture is what leads to the demise of anime
So making a lot of "pretentious" "tryhard" "2deep4you" mature anime is better then a lot of "harem" "moe" "cute girls doing cute things" otaku pandering anime?
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>>120507665
>Projecting your shitter-basement-dwelling-mother's-tit-sucking self into nation as powerful, honorable and historical as Japan
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>>120507273
>
I've got better things to do than to waste my time on shit shows. Try going back a bit. The popularity of all the shit anime is what defines what's successful on the market, what's most exposed in everywhere, what guarantees what type of show CAN even be realistically made with limited resources. I haven't even stumbled upon a single site that can filter mature anime from stuff that's for kids. In the end, the popularity of this otaku culture is what leads to the demise of anime, more or less. Not a hard concept to understand
Wow, you just reek of /v/.
Fuck off back there.
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>>120507273
>this retarded
Such is the post-moot era of /v/ermin and normalfags
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>>120507665
>They only think it's bad because they lost.

What, are you implying Americans think war is good?

o-oh...
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>>120506872
>Say that to the people in east-ukraine.
Just an unfortunate victim being used to stimulate another countries economy. That doesn't prove him wrong in any manner.

Like saying "What if it was your mother or sister" to someone telling rape jokes.
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>>120507818
Not since vietnam
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lol anime is kewl zomg
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>>120507735
>being this much of a weeb

Complaining about injustice is literally a loser's game.
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Sturgeon's law is universal.
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>Nature good, technology bad
>War is bad (if you are stuck on the losing side)
>You don't understand how hard it is to be old, I had dreams once
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>>120508188
When will the Tits&Gore OVA finally make a comeback?
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that shitty onichans get their imoutos killed
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>>120507665
War is literally hell, anon
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>>120507818
>American Sniper made $200M in 10 days.
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>>120508313
Hopefully never. All those old hyperviolent OVA were shit and people only like them because of tits and explosions.
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>>120508415
>All those old hyperviolent OVA were shit
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>>120508313
Don't act like the West doesn't do the same shit.
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>>120508477
missed azumanga. You know you wanna bait the hardest
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>>120499157
Patrick Stewart is scared of technology.

I'm pretty sure it just means he is old.
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>>120508313
>There's very little authentic sci-fi being produced in Japan

THAT'S NOT A JAPANESE THING, THAT'S A GLOBAL PROBLEM.
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>>120507665
> war is good
Ultimate edge.
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>>120506118
the industry started to bend in favour od otakus, as such, shitty fanservicy bullshit started to become more common and the industry got shallow.
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>>120507471
thank you based anon
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>>120509176
>this is what /v/ actually believes
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>>120509176
>and the industry got shallow.
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>>120509176
>the industry started to bend in favour od otakus
Since 20 years ago
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>>120497442
>"It's okay to have shit writing as long as the visuals are good"
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>>120507231
>>120507085
Yes it's a bait edit. No, it's not a tumblr gif, you idiot.
>1.81 MB
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>hating Miyazaki this much
butthurt weebs everywhere
please calm down
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>>120509497
>>hating Miyazaki this much
what? did you even read the thread?
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>>120497442
Planes are fucking cool
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>>120509577
>>120509577
>did you even read the thread?
of course not
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>>120507471
What 12-olds like >>120499027 don't understand is that war, on itself, doesn't stimulate technological progression. Competition for a tenchnological need does. War is just ONE ( and not the best) of the possible motors for competition.
But then, try to explain that to edgelords.
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>>120509700
indeed, the only war that gave any advancement was the space race, because the "war" was just a giant fucking political tension that thankfully never went off
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>>120508388
You've never even been in a war. Stop saying you know what it's like.

War is good as long as you're not dying in it and your country wins.
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>>120509906
even when your country wins the amount of money that could go to medicine, education and other direct benefits is wasted for some whiny political bulshit that caused the war
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What are some messages from Yamamoto Yutaka
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>>120510038
"Anime needs to be saved, I will be its hero"
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/a/ - /a/nime, m/a/nga, and w/a/r
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>>120509988
All the world's greatest progressions were made for war.

We literally only went to space because of war.
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anime was a fucking mistake
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>>120510129
the space race was the most childish piece of shit, it was a "LOOK AT WHAT MY POLITICS CAN DO TO SCIENCE" competitions
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>>120509906
> war is good as long are you're not the one in it
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>>120510344
Great reaction image.
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>>120510129
>barbarian hordes invade Europe and destroy the Roman Empire
>queue up the dark age
>look guys at all the progress we did

The only thing war does is that it lets every crazy out there get funding as long as he promises to create a Wunderwaffe. And 90% of those projects end in total failure
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>>120498440
>Disney pays in US currency

It's worth more than the yen, so I don't see the issue.
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