Anime at 4k

>I heard anime has recently switched to 4k
Great! Now I can see those anime drawing lines much more clearly.

>>120027313
You can basically say the same thing about movie CGI... it's just a different style.

Most shows are barely 720p upscales it'll be long before 4k becomes anywhere near the norm.

>>120027230
Yeah, no. A ton of anime is still 720 source. Japs, and especially the anime industry are slow-as-fuck to embrace any sort of change.

Man studios can't even do 1080p without QUALITY. I can't even imagine what would happen with 4K.

>>120027454
The resolution at which anime is mastered has little to do with the drawing quality of it.

>>120027536
That argument might have made sense before digital was such a big part of the process and everything was completely physical, but it hasn't been that way for a good fifteen years now.

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>>120027230
>I heard anime has recently switched to 4k
How can you be this stupid

>>120027230
Enjoy you 10 gig per episode

>>120027667
How does the resolution an anime is mastered at affect the drawing abilities of the animators involved?

>>120027408
It's not about the change. Anime is mostly around 720p because larger resolution would take more time and money, since they'd have to draw it on bigger papers. Apart from few works all 1080p anime is digitally upscaled from 720p. One more reason why anime is not gonna be anything near 4k anytime soon. At least hand-drawn anime isn't.

>>120027878
Not that guy, but what he's saying is a large part of the work is done digitally, so you'd have to improve resolution throughout the entire process, not just at the mastering stage.
"QUALITY" does make it sound like we're talking about how fine their drawings are, but if you think about it, that makes no fucking sense. There's other ways a show's animation quality can be in trouble.

>>120027878
>bigger paper

>>120028229
Why would animators draw worse on bigger paper?

>>120027834
>2015
>not having 500mb/s internet

>>120028229
Paper is always the same size. Having a large resolution only affects work in the digital tracing step.

>>120027834
Not really. Since the average 1080p episode takes around 500 mb and modern compression techniques scale quite well, I estimate around 1,5 gb per episode.

>>120028519
>Paper is always the same size
Not always. It depends on the resolution they're aiming for. If they wanna release 1080p they need bigger paper, since upscaling reduces the quality of end product. And there's just no way out of that.

>>120027454
I want my 4:3 upscales to 4k.

>>120027230
oh just fuck off back to /v/.

>>120028884
No, the paper is the same size, but scanning it in a higher resolution allows you to capture finer details. Resolution only significantly affects the digital processes of animation production; drawings make no difference.

>>120028884
Don't they usually down scale drawlings or is this a western animation technique?

>>120027391
movie CGI has textures and no cel-shading, as well as global lighting sometimes and overall much much more detail

>>120027230
>I heard anime has recently switched to 4k, yet I wonder why it's hard to find torrents
Probably because there would be practically nothing out in 4k. Even if things were released in 4k the gains would be non-existent.

Hell, 4k is pretty much useless unless we're talking 55"+ displays here.

I usually still download 720p unless the 1080p version has a decent improvement. Which many things still don't.

The video industry considers that widespread adoption of 4K would require H.265 for compression. Expect massive compatibility problems, even worse than for 10 bit.

Whatever, just give VR with AI that can generate anime for me to enjoy.

>>120029263
There's a good chance that true machine learning will happen during your lifetime. This may not be impossible.

>I heard anime has recently switched to 4k
No, it hasn't. Stop listening to people who have no idea what they are talking about.

>>120029050
That's not true. Paper size is significant factor on the resolution of final product. Resolution isn't something you can just adjust from any size picture without it affecting the quality. Same goes for scanning, it doesn't work as you said. If you scan a picture on A5 paper size, it will look shit after being scanned and upscaled to 1080p, or even 720p. Your problem is that you seem to think that resolution is just something completely digital that has nothing to do with the original drawn picture.

>>120029749
>If you scan a picture on A5 paper size, it will look shit after being scanned and upscaled to 1080p, or even 720p
1) How can you "upscale" a picture to a progressive scan format when pictures are pictures, not video?
2) Why would you need to "upscale it to 1080" if you scan a file of 1080 rows out of the picture?
3) Why do people talk about stuff they have no fucking idea about?

>>120029938
He's just saying that if you want finer lines, you'll have to make bigger drawings. If you just scan a normal-sized drawing with higher DPI, the edges of the lines will be sharper but the image itself won't change because the lines will just be thicker. Basically, he's saying that scanning any drawing at a higher resolution won't give more detail to the drawing, only to the digital image of the drawing.

>>>/v/

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>>120027230
>I heard anime has recently switched to 4k
Yeah dude, only a month after the Japanese government decided to enforce a ban on sub-60fps anime

>>120029938
This: >>120030033
Also:
>pictures are pictures, not video
You do understand that when you're watching anime, the moving picture on your screen is actually made up from still pictures on a paper, right?

Why don't they just draw smaller?

>>120029749
you made me smile.

The "papers" are scanned at say 600dpi which gives around 8 inches x 600 dpi = 4800 pixels in height. This is then downscaled to the required height.

But you are correct in some sense, for 1080p or 4k anime the animators need to add details invisible in lower resolutions, but they don't use bigger papers, they use additional sheets of paper for said details.

>>120027408
How long did it take them to change from 4:3 to 16:9 again?

>>120029749
>>120030033
When you draw animation, you draw what you want the viewer to see, not because you have a quota of pixels to fill. This limiting of information is one of the most powerful tools which distinguishes animation from film. A drawing is a drawing, you don't draw more just because you have more pixels to fill.

Also to suggest that A5 paper looks shit at 1080 shows that you have never created a single drawing yourself. A pencil drawing on A4 paper contains so much textural detail that at least 8K resolution scan to accurately reproduce the fine textures produced. A line is not simply a line.

People who do not even take the time to understand such simple concepts about their favorite medium should really stop posting.

>>120029050
>try hard to prove thyself
Stop giving false information that you think is only true and applicable to your own logic.

>>120030099
Why?
Does 60fps hurt their eyes?

>>120030328
Up until 2006 or 07

>>120030205
>You do understand that when you're watching anime, the moving picture on your screen is actually made up from still pictures on a paper, right?
You do understand it's absolutely retarded to say "upscale this picture to a progressive scan video format," right?

>>120027230
Anime has yet to get to complete 1080p. Maybe in 10 years.

>>120028519

come to America where we download our anime at a blazing 2.2 MB/s speeds

>>120030476
I can't believe you managed to fit so little useful information into your own post, for one.

>>120028201
>since they'd have to draw it on bigger papers.
Are you fucking serious? Is everything made up of pixels in whatever world you live in?

Who cares about 4K, really
I just want them to stop using mpeg2.

>>120030476
>When you draw animation, you draw what you want the viewer to see, not because you have a quota of pixels to fill.
true

>Also to suggest that A5 paper looks shit at 1080 shows that you have never created a single drawing yourself. A pencil drawing on A4 paper contains so much textural detail that at least 8K resolution scan to accurately reproduce the fine textures produced. A line is not simply a line.
your fallacy starts here. Go figure.

>Pretend to know how his favorite medium is made yada yada
those drawn lines will be traced later on using software.

>implying I can even download the 4k version
That'd be like 2gb, may aswell download the iso.

>>120033097
Imaginee a 4k iso

>>120031189
1.2 MB/s master race reporting in

>>120027230
>I heard anime has recently switched to 4k
No you didn't, because that's stupid.

Most anime doesn't even air in 1080p yet, the 1080p you see on CR is nearly always upscaled.

>>120031189
I hate the burgerland internet cartel so much, it's so fucking terrible.

Could be canada I guess.

>>120035169
Could be Australia.

>>120027806
He is from /v/, do you expect anything that is not /b/ tier shitposting from there?

only BDs come in 1080p.

>>120036414
Sooooo, 4k saps peoples youth?

>>120027230
1080 is good enough, in fact, it's more than enough. The fuck you want 4k anime for, animation is more important here

Australia here.

6mbps and 56k upload.

Woooooo

>>120037662
that's why all these aussies lag...I feel sorry for you guys. I guess my Canadian internet is alright

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>>120028201
>since they'd have to draw it on bigger papers.

>>120037662
Hueland here
2.6mb/s and 2.4mb/s upload wooooo

Scenery porn in 4K.

We don't really even need more than 480, yet they keep upping the rest.