Can Shirou end up summoning Archer instead?

>>119933698
Probably.

Canon-wise? No, because Shirou couldn't exist without Avalon being inside him, and he could only summon Saber because of Avalon.

Non-canon? If Avalon wasn't inside of him but he had the gem Rin left with him? Maybe.

>>119933698
If Rin summoned someone other than Archer then probably.

>>119933839
Though, being the same person, he could likely act as his own catalyst.

>>119933698
>Rin doesnt fuck uo and summons proper saber
>After duel with lancer he wounds shiro, tohsaka resurects him with pendant
>Shirou summons archer with pendant as catalyst instead of avalon

>>119933931
Could Rin theoretically summon Kaleido Ruby if she didn't have her pendant?

>>119934685
Only if there was a timeline in which she accepted the contract of the wand

>>119934685
>>119934767
She would have to have accepted the contract and then made a contract with the world.

>>119934119
Which Saber would Rin summon, and would that Saber be able to chase Cu down and kill him like Archer couldn't?

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>>119934767
Rejoice.

>>119934767
Will it be easier to summon Kuro than TOHSAKA or Kaliedo Ruby for Rin?

>>119934834
Literal definition of dick-sucking lips

>>119934812
>Chase down Cu
>Being able to keep up with Cu
>Being able to kill Cu with his Battle Continuation while he's trying to run away

You'd need a pretty fucking strong and quick Saber to beat Lancer while he's playing defense.

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>>119933698

Yes but the plot would have gone to shit. Pic very related.

>>119934952
>implying double UBW wouldn't be the single greatest thing known to man.

>>119934952
Can Shirou make Unlimited Unlimited Blade Works with the help of the Second Magic?

>>119934952
>Implying they would let each other finish the chant
>"I am the bone of m-"
>"NO! I AM THE BONE-"
>"Shut up and watch, maybe you'll learn something useful!"
>"No! You shut up!"

Though it would've been interesting to watch them cooperate. Shirou tracing one Caladbolg after another while Archer is nuking the entire town.

>>119934952
what happens if 2 ubw activate at once? or any reality marbles in general?

>>119935076
It would probably require lots of sex to make it work. Shirou would need to have sex with Archer to ensure Archer has enough mana, and then with Rin or Sakura to make sure he can do it

>>119935293
Sakura would be in paradise though especially if Shirou and EMIYA double teams her.

If Shirou can project anything he can imagine out of thin air

Why does he stop at weapons? Why doesn't he make knock-off servants? Hell he could probably make a weaker grail just to beat everyone

>>119935398
>implying EMIYA remembers who Sakura is

>>119933698
No. The Grail only let Archer get summoned because otherwise Archer couldn't have existed in his original timeline.

>>119934119
>>119934952
spin off fate anime series in 3 years

>>119935263
Reality marble within a reality marble? We need to go deeper.
I guess it could work. If Alexandr would use his IO and charged EMIYA with his army he might be able to create UBW inside IO to separate him from the army. Assuming that the reality marble would even hold and wouldn't crash from all the magic shit going on.

>>119934119
>Shirou is forced to use his command seals to stop Archer from killing him
>Archer refuses to follow any non-sealed command

>>119935562
>IO
meant IH, don't know why I typed IO. Twice.

>>119935457
Shirou can only project swords accurately, everything else takes more mana than he can normally deal with or comes out hollow and empty

>>119935457
the only reason he can make swords is because of his origin and even those end up killing him. he doesn't have the technique, mana and etc. to do anything better. he would probably explode or some shit even trying.

>>119934952
Wasn't the clock being off just a red herring? Might have been the reason all her furniture got wrecked but Archer was just because she used that pendant.

If you use a reality marble inside a reality marble the world loses memory and delete the universe to make up for it. Swordland becomes the real world. Great job red man.

>>119935787
His origin?

>>119935727
That's because Shirou was projecting wrong.

Archer replicated all of Rin's broken furniture when he accidentally broke it.

>>119935829
Both Shirou and Archer use UBW at the same time in the UBW route IIRC and that doesn't happen

>>119935787
Nice bullshit. Archer and Shirou's Rho Aias were good enough to handle Gae Bolg and other crazy crap. Archer and Shirou can do better.

>>119935804
Clocks being off was a "message" from Rin's father. It was supposed to be something like "If you can't even notice this, then you are not ready for the HGW". It was part of the box that contained the necklace and Gil's catalyst.

>>119935514
Nasu should have had Archer drop a Sakura comment. He even had that Taiga moment in UBW.

>>119935927
Shirou only uses UBW against Gil though, doesn't he?

>>119935787
Archer personally made his armor and bow out of materials that did not exist on Earth yet.

Archer's nickname is the Blacksmith Servant.

Shirou and Archer will eventually have the technique and mana to do everything better.

>>119935997
Why doesn't Gil just pull gae blog out of the gate and kill all humans?

>>119934834
Rin got ugly as a servant

>>119935997
Shirou's incomplete Rho Aias with 4 petals can endure being shot by two A++ NPs

>>119936020
Well considering that his catalyst was Rin's pendant, that implies he liked Rin best, and in the route where Shirou likes Rin best, Sakura is barely a blip on his radar, so it sorta makes sense why he wouldn't say anything