Is there ANY anime that explores themes as good as Planetes? Is there any moment more amazing than pic related?
Planetes explores the most unique themes I have ever seen in anime, and there's so much to think about once it's over. I know I'm dickriding it pretty hard, but can this show even be objectively criticized?
Its really a DEEP show
Okay, I guess deep and unique themes, 'deep' as it explores the implications of stuff we take for granted, eg. space exploration causing poverty and suffering, eventually being the catalyst for terrorism. Also explores the implications of life in space, eg. that 12 year old girl who looks like an adult. Generally, shit that isn't simple and obvious and has great emotional impact.
>space exploration causing poverty and suffering
>space exploration being the catalyst for terrorism
You fucked up really hard if that's all you got from Planetes. Space is just a setting. A convenient setting due to the technological/logistical difficulties of life there, but merely a setting nonetheless.
That said, another title that has similar vibes in many ways (including the "feel") is Wings of Honneamise. I suggest you take a look.
>moment with cranes better than the Tanakan space suit passing the requirements list only to be shut down for political reasons
Sorry bro, you're wrong. Add in the Planetes ascended-ones-tier OST and it blows away KnJ in every way.
>can the show objectively be criticized?
Of course. Every show has faults. Personally, I feel like they went a little bit overboard in establishing Tanabe as a "naively believes in love" archetype because she was extremely annoying for the first half-dozen episodes until they dialed it back a little bit.
The entire moon ninjas episode was superfluous and arguably added nothing of value to the show except a "breather" period of humor between serious shit going down, but I would have preferred to ride the srsbsns train the entire way through.
Additionally, their hamfisted attempts at forcing INTO as the "evil we can't live without" role and constant harping about how shitty 1st world countries treated the poor 3rd world countries who "just needed a fair chance" was mildly annoying.
Those issues, as a whole, are very minor compared to the spectacular job they did with hard sci-fi realism. When was the last time you saw an anime (or movie for that matter) set in space where external shots are actually SILENT (because vacuum)?
Well done hard sci-fi gets my dick harder than diamond ore, and Planetes provided that in spades.
Sorry for rambling, it's one of my favorite shows and one of the few I own multiple physical copies of.
I'll also add that the Anime end was actually better than the Manga end, imo. In the anime they hooked up for clear reasons. In the manga, they hooked up for no real reason (nothing better to do?) and it felt like there was much less closure.
Aight, I'm done now. Enjoy Honneamise, OP.
If you're willing to put up with more "fiction" elements in your sci-fi, Starship Operators is another excellent show from the standpoint of having highly realistic depictions of space combat.
I must admit, I haven't finished LoGH yet.
Much more political.
Moot agreed Planetes is best, don't bother him about it.
LoGH isn't anything like Planetes. It's a mediocre political thriller set in space.
It's the most overrated piece of media I've ever consumed. Good, but overrated beyond belief. I suspect it's a result of the babbies watching it having next to no experience with anything outside of anime or video games.
I'm a little sad that we never got to see the anime's version of your image, but I can understand why they dropped the scene. Unlike most people I liked most of the changes, such as Hachi's violent rejection of Tanabe and other people in general being directly to her face rather than aimed at his shadow.
Part of that is because Tanabe got about four scenes (not counting the flashback) of development in the manga before they got together, the first two of which being a sudden jump from their first meeting to what we're told is the height of sexual tension. She was essentially a side character until the fourth volume, which was produced after the show had aired and integrated an element or two.
Yeah, I think the anime did a much better job of telling "their" story.
Well that's the thing, the manga was very much his story but somewhere early in development the director and writers decided the show needed to be their story, if not even having a little more focus on Tanabe.
Yeah, and I think that helped quite a bit from the standpoint of expanding the available situations and interactions with other characters.
I'd say 'Knights of Sidonia', the representation of space is very realistic and while some may dislike the full CG drawstyle I really couldn't care less. It's licensed by Netflix so you can find it there but if not I'm sure it's available as torrent somewhere as well.
Not to mention that it's the reason the show has the incredible emotional depth it has. We aren't just watching the self-destructive cycle of a man mistaking isolation for strength and dedication, we're seeing the considerable emotional toll it takes on the girl who's gone and fallen in love with him. Hachi's struggle is still more or less at the core of it, but the perspectives we're given are wildly different.
Mate, where the show is going if it's following the manga at all is straight out of pseudo-realistif sci-fi into sci-fi land, with some worrying dips into super robots in a few places. Still, read the manga.
Planetes manga and anime are worth all the praise they have received.
The real clincher is how the series in particular builds its scenes. The Tanabe in space with Claire sequence is arguably one of the most emotionally affecting scenes drawn. Everything in that sequence just fits right. Even the dramatic purpose (Tanabe, who doesn't change at all in the show. She's the same person she was the moment she joined debris section) which has Tanabe confront everything central to her person about "love" for others, and have her remain unshaken by the experience.
Sure, Hachi definitely has an arc that the audience follows, but Tanabe in the Anime creates like an arc for the audience.
Not just that, but things like the Toybox being backwards when it's approaching the Moon. They don't explain that it's doing a burn to slow itself and get into orbit, but they show it anyway.
Favorite OST tracks, go!
I like this one because it's a great combination of all the other aspects of the soundtrack I adore. It has a melancholic serious undertone with a bit of bounce/hope thrown in to represent the adventure that is life in space. It feels like a slice of the show.
No reason needed. Still causes a bit of a choking effect and some eye moisture.