why do so few people ship touma/index?
it's called to aru INDEX; not biribiri, not itsuwa, not birdway, not himegami; INDEX
out of all the girls touma has passive relationships with, his with index is by far the longest, and the fact that they have been living together relatively conflict free is a major indicator of compatibility
Official girl ranking for Touma:
Othinus >= Oriana = Kanzaki > Orsola > Itsuwa = Fukiyose > Index > 10032 > Mikoto > Himegami > Birdway > Lessar = Younger Misaki
Othinus > Will-tan > Orsola > Itsuwa > Fukiyose > Index > 10032 > Mikoto > Birdway > Misaki > Himegami > Lessar > Kanzaki
Closeness and bonding:
Othinus >= Index > Will-tan > *
waifus of academy city official level ranking
other 2 ITEM members
upside down trap/I'd hit it anyways tier:
But the best girl for Touma hasn't been eliminated yet.
Raildex is over ten years old, of which those two characters barely existed for two. Only secondary shitters consider those two best girls of anything. One's a paranoid narcissist and the other's an all around piece of shit who suddenly has a change of heart and we are supposed to forgive her despicable actions.
shes in jail becoming a butch lesbian, only person itsuwa might end up with is kuroko
>imlying she won't make a glorious comeback when the story moves to England again
She was the inspiration for IIE SENPAI, you're wrong.
Please ,don't lie anon. Itsuwa is perfection. IIE SENPAI is a shit.
What was the point of Vol. 8 of Index? Kuroko is shit, Musujime is shit, literally the whole novel sucked except Accel reking Musujime and destroying the remnant of tree diagram. Was it a filler novel or something?
The lack of Kanzaki love is disturbing.
kanzaki is a qt too
is there any difference between esper "personal reality" and "being a chunni"?
Her personality is qt.
Her body is absolutely revolting.
you know based on misuzu, your dear flat biri is going to have huge biris one day right?
Because there are cuter and more awesome pairings out there.
After the anniversary bait and switch the chances are pretty much zero.
This is subjectively and objectively correct.
Yeah, you are right . We all know he loves his right hand.
Where have you been?
Because Fuyukawa is a god
One day, you'll come to understand it.
THK and spammershow up when we post.
It's understandable why people ship those two. It's not like you have to care if the ship will happen or not.
Even though it will never happen, I'm one of the very few who ships Birdway with Touma, just because I find them cute and will make for an awesome pair who can help each other.
I mean, she's sort of a bro too. I just like them interacting together in general. I think that they go well together, it's not like I'm only in this series to ship them though.
>Kuroko was supposed
Nope. That's what Kamachi started as a draft, without knowing that the spin-off was created for Mikoto. The Sisters arc from her perspective to be more precise.
>Awesome battle pair
>Their little teasing they do sometimes
Touma would think about Itsuwa first if he ever decides to get a girlfriend.
You know it to be true.
I'm fairly certain Touma would say yes to the first girl to ask him out.
Is your heart going dokidoki anon?
Ignore trash bottom line
Even anime characters concur.
WORST doesn't even have huge breasts, they're nicely sized.
Yep, that's why it's main protag is Kuroko and not Misaka. They talked about a possible spin-off, then he did volume 8 and the draft for the manga. They then told him it's for Mikoto, but vol 8 is finished, just release it, why not, and remake the ideas for the manga.
pretty sure touma's right hand negates all of his sexual desires
He daughter-zoned half the entire world by this point
I think he daughter-zoned mother earth herself after the othinus battle.
>After the anniversary bait and switch the chances are pretty much zero.
No it's not stop being so pessimistic. Season 3 is basically confirmed due to how successful 1 and 2 were. It's just not going to come until DB needs extra cash, or the LNs are about to end and Miki wants to cash out like he did with Shana.
He gets aroused all the time, he even got aroused by Mikoto, although some people would try and deny it because "he only likes huge tits", he's a horny motherfucker.
She just needs to graduate middle school.
It's been almost 5 years since Index 2, 2 years since Railgun S, and we have gotten zero indication that they have any intention whatsoever to make another season. Stop being optimistic.
I agree. I like this doujin series a lot too, although Mikoto is a bit too dere in it.
>though some people would try and deny it because "he only likes huge tits", he's a horny motherfucker.
yeah, im pretty sure the thing standing in the way of touma viewing biri in a romantic context is not her flat chest, but the fact that she's in MIDDLE SCHOOL, and when dudes who are older than middleschool do things with girls in middle school funny looks and people calling the cops happens
First of all it's been 4 years, and you seem to be forgetting the Index movie too. The franchise prints money, but Miki doesn't want to just keep wasting money on anime when the manga and LN sales are stable and high. Like I said, whenever they need extra cash or the series is going to end is when you'll most likely see your season 3.
implying this is a bad thing
Yeah, I hope that she ends up going to his high school, that could end up in some fun shenanigans, although I don't know if the series will even make it that far in the future.
I love it too, but it's nice to see her be at least a little tsun, the biridere doujins did a good job of that.
we covered how much time in the last ten years? give it another 20 or 30?
even if it ever happens; remember there is a relatively thin window where theyre both in highschool before it becomes creepy again after touma turns 18 and biri is still a minor
fukiyose will probably seal the deal before that
I'm pretty sure he means that when she's in battle and in serious mode she comes off as a fucking awesome fembro.
It wouldn't be creepy once she's in high school, he's only 2 years older anyway. Also, fukiyose is a top tier girl as well.
They don't exist, more vanilla kamikoto for you anon, I'm sorry.
more importantly, why arent there more weeharoo x saten ones?
Novel characters never get any doujins, but she at least got this. I'll dump it.
she got magically shrunken and inevitably daughter-zoned.
But anon, she was animated, even took biribiri's place in the final scene
Translation when? Where are you Js06?
Just see the pixiv filename.
>it wouldn't be creepy once she's in high school,
but the problem is theyll be several grades apart, and only in highschool for 2 years together before it becomes weird again.
also not entirely sure offhand what ac's laws and attitudes are regarding minors, statutory rape, etc... but when he turns 18; for the next two years till she does means being together could also mean being v& by antiskill, or many disapproving looks from peers and acquaintances.
age differences in relationships are fine for "adults" for the most part where there are plenty of couples with 10yr differences that arent even some specialized golddigger circumstances, but for younger people with all the rapid development and segmentation (school grade) it really would be much more.awkward
like when theyre both in college and onwards, theres nothing that should stand in the way, but till then there could be all sorts of problems
>implying Touma isn't going to get held back for missing months of school
Besides, I'm not really thinking about that too hard. I don't ship them because I think there's some deep Kamachi hints about them getting together, I just think it would be cool for the Railgun and Index protags to get together. Also, they have cute interactions(in my opinion, I'm aware not everyone thinks they're cute). They also get the best fanart and doujins.
Touma's likely to end up getting some sort of official recognition in a couple years anyways from something he'll end up doing, and with Misaka as the public face of the Level 5s, they are probably gonna end up getting seen as a dream couple by most people anyways.
Don't worry, it only happens once again in the punishment game. Then she disappears from the story forever.
im holding out for loli end
touma x index
accel x lo
pierce x komoe
shiage x birdway
tsuchimikado x maika
and all other female chars get btfod so hard they become lesbians and kuroko's harem
I'm so glad she doesn't exist in the novels, thank you based kamachi.
Well, normally I don't disagree with other peoples ships, but that is some astronomically shit taste you have there friend.
"the producers asked Kazuma to write the original concept of it. Kamachi Kazuma, at that point, was told that the manga would be using Academy City as a primary state, as such, he wrote the original draft with Shirai Kuroko as the protagonist, feeling that Mikoto was too powerful a character from who he could make an an entertaining manga. He was later corrected, and was asked to use Mikoto instead, despite having written "quite a bit". Because of this, he was forced to rethink everything from the ground up in order to use. It is unknown what would have become of the side story had Kuroko been accepted as the protagonist.
Motoi was later called up to be the artist of the manga, and started serialization in the April issue of Dengeki Daioh on March 2007"
Volume 8 is out in January 10, 2006. I assume he was asked to do Railgun before that and he did vol. 8 and the original Railgan with Kuroko side-by-side.
Kamachi pretty much phased her out and replaced her with Misaki as Mikoto's friend. Kuroko hasn't appeared for like 20 volumes.
>not knowing that Kamachi writes like 3-4 volumes ahead of the published ones
Your assumption is groundless and random. Stop pushing it as fact.
Also, read the whole goddamn interview and stop quoting the shitty wikia.
There's no point shipping anyone in this series. Nothing happens and there will be no romantic developments. Just an ever-growing harem and occasional reminders that Girls #1-24 are still thinking about Touma.
It's such a disappointing series because it actually has the potential to be amazing but chooses to never realize it, in favor of following formula and stalling.
Index has like 0% of a shot. She just failed as a character and is hugely unpopular.
To flip your statement around-- they have been living together for a long time and absolutely nothing has happened on the romance front. There haven't been any conflicts either way. There's no chemistry there at all so nothing happens.
If it was so easy to get tens out thousands of MISAKA clones, why not just have clones fight each other and accumulate experience that way? If fighting themselves is a problem, just set up two or more individual clone networks that can compete with each other. It will take more time and resources, but it seems like it would have been a viable option given the ridiculous amount of resources at the disposal of Crowley.
Remember her last scene in Index II?
That was also her last actual scene in the Index novels. That was volume 13. The first series ended at volume 22. There are 2 main SS novels, and there are 11 NT novels.
Kuroko hasn't appeared in Index for 22 novels. 8 years.
Well, Stiyl is weak enough that him cooperating with Touma actually has some use.
With Mikoto it's usually more like "I've got no idea what you're up to this time, but go do it, I'll hold these guys back, that seems fun"
It's not like there's anything to talk about right now. No new content for months.
Aleister is into Thelema, Mikoto is his favorite level 5, and Nuit is described as a woman covered in stars. When she started shifting to level 6, what does Mikoto look like? A woman covered in stars. Also, she was called the "Heaven Sent Child Loved By Electrons", in NT10. There's obviously a connection.
because if it takes 20k fodder kills for the strongest guy to level up, itll take much more fodder to get anyone to accel's level in the first place
Didn't AC already have quite modern laws on this area due to.
1. It's supposed to be a hypermodern city, both in technology as in society
2. Realizing that in a city of 90% students they weren't going to be able to stop them anyway so they'd better just ensure things go safely.
Othinus dethroned Index from the second place this year.
Reminder that all Mikoto wants is to be a good waifu.
>You don’t need a good reason to save a friend. If you want to save them, then save them. …I know someone who kept saying those stupid things even when he was driven to the brink of death, and he really did save over 10,000 people in the end. And that idiot that saved so many people is trying to save someone today like always. I know I can’t stop him. No matter how much I don’t want him to do anything dangerous, seeing him off with a push to the back is the sign of a good woman!
Never read past vol. 13 because I want to watch the anime before reading the novels but do they ever explain if there's anything more to Aleister's Plan besides just creating a large AIM field and the Imaginary Number District to wipe out all magicians in the world?
I stopped following the Accel manga because shit art and it was boring. I wish it was just Accel, LO, and WORST slice of life to be honest.
>Mikoto is his favorite level 5
believing the words of a kihara low enough to think level 6 was worth something
>what does Mikoto look like? A woman covered in stars
a girl being cosumed by a black power with bits of her former form poking through
>Heaven Sent Child Loved By Electrons
you grasp as those straws anon
i think nuit will happen, but i doubt it will be or will be made from a person. it may even already exist, aiwass existed long before crowley manifested him.
How can you say that she doesn't look covered in stars? Nuit is described as a naked woman covered in stars. Mikoto's upper half was covered in black with what look like stars scattered throughout. Also, the reason that I mention Heaven Sent Child Loved by Electrons is because it furthers the idea that she's Nuit. They're the main hints pointing towards it. I'm not grasping at any straws anon, I'm making observations.
She does, she's just in massive denial.
the anime depiction of imaginary # plan is incredibly light on details and spoilers
touma punches vento, hyoka calms down because index sings a song, and acqua fetches vento
other than the outcome of "gud guys win", there is absolutely nothing in the anime that will spoil details
That's fucked up man. I don't think I like that.
Not saying that you can't be right, but I still think my theory is closer to the truth. He wrote vol 2 in less than 2 weeks, he could easily write vol 8 on a hunch. If he wanted to use Kuroko because he just felt like, why is she so rarely seen then?
You should like it, Misaki and Mikoto go great together, and Misaki at least doesn't actively cock-block her friend.
shes offscreen raiding research/care facilities and building a clone harem
will return in the 11th hour with a several battalions worth of MISAKAs to turn the tide of the final battle
I think it's the opposite. After writing volume 8 Kamachi took a liking to Kuroko's character and that's why he first thought of her when asked to write a spin-off.
>why is she so rarely seen then?
She still appears regularly in Railgun. She stopped appearing in Index most likely because she would be a bother in Mikoto's character development and the things she does in the later novels.
Just imagine Kuroko trying to stop her from going to Russia or Hawaii. It wouldn't be funny but pathetic.
>After writing volume 8 Kamachi took a liking to Kuroko's character and that's why he first thought of her when asked to write a spin-off.
I can see it. Yeah, it would fit more into the release dates. OK, probably that's what happened.
Terrorist is good, but full on serious mode saint fighting biribiri a best. Tokiwodai Winter Uniform is GOAT.
Yes. SS2 Biribiri is second best. NT6 Biribiri is third best. Kongou and Misaki inteactions with her are the best.
Really, any time Mikoto isn't interacting with Touma or Kuroko is great.
pls no bully, kuroko is a cutie and upholder of justice
Either terrorist or suit. Both outfits look good on her.
Of both railgun seasons, the latter arc was anime-original filler. And even then there was a bunch of filler inserted in the first arc too.
>implying this scene wasn't great
I like her scenes with Touma, actually. Pretty much all of them, except the cookie scene just because she sperged out completely and didn't give them to Touma.
Heresy. I'm so glad Misaki replaced her.
Lel, I don't know if any of you still check the Index website but the latest update is of a mini web novel by Kamachi on how to make a light novel. I'd actually be interested if Js06 translated it. We can see the true thought processes behind Kamachi.exe.
Big Spider and Poltergeist were canon. Kamachi wrote an outline for both arcs in the anime They got greatly degenerated by JC Staff, so you can assume that they happened, but not like in the anime.
Quoting an anon who made a good post some time ago about what probably was the outline for Poltergeist:
>Mikoto confronts Telestina, Capacity Down turns the tide to Telestina.
>Mikoto hightails out of there, trying to turn it off
>Intelligently dodges all attacks of Telestina by using the narrow hallways and tight turns to her advantage
>locates control panel for Capacity Down
>physically destroys the speakers in the room, hacks and shuts down Capacity Down
>Payback time, without laserbeams
brah she's not cock blocking, because it's not like touma was going to bone biri in the first place
and it's not 'rape', that whole thing is played for humor, you wouldn't condemn saten for "molesting" uiharu
That sounds so much more like how the LN's described the capacity down variant used in the esper prison, and sounds like how Mikoto would actually fix the problem. After all she's supposed to be strong and highly athletic next to her powers.
I'm shipping Index X Komoe
Read the Railgun manga from the very beginning, it's completely different than the anime. If you want to read the Index light novels you should start from the beginning as well, in my opinion.
the index manga is not even up to where index 2 ended. he was talking about the railgun manga.
as far as the light novels go, start at 13 and read 1-12 whenever you get a chance.
why does index get so little love?
I mean in the average raildex thread there are plenty of waifu wars; biribiri goes without saying, lots of kuroko lovers and haters, saten is a slut/no bully, even uiharu gets talked about.
It's clear that this is a very popular franchise by how many people are discussing source material exclusive stuff and characters (othinus/birdway/itsuwa is best opt) which never made it to the anime
even real minor background characters get plenty of mention (fair bit of fukiyose in the last few threads, himegami too) in terms of praise
but there's no index love
she's such a cutie
I still find it quite appalling that JC staff didn't even realize that railgun is a projectile attack, the orange afterglow just being caused by the heat of a projectile pushing through it at 1 km/s.
It's not a fucking energy beam.
Who're you talking about?
There is no worst girl in Strike the Blood you piece of shit
She just never does anything.
Her comedy scenes are all the same shit, and she can almost never participate in battle. Even in NT10 she was just played off like a joke while Birdway and Biri took the spotlight.
I don't hate her, but she's been really irrelevant for a long time now. And Othinus just made it worse.
For starters, she can lose that dumb nun's habit. I bet she smells because it's the only robe she's got and she wears it everyday, rain or shine.
It's possible Kamijou-san washes it for her but what the hell does she wear while it's drying?
I love everything about her, but she was indeed at her most best when she was channeling that terrorist spirit.
>literally fights a saint
>literally saves Touma and Index from the Hound Dogs
>wipes out an entire Russian military base with a fucking Iron Sand Tsunami
Biribiri is too based for you.
I want to she her dad go full operator and kill the fuck out of the people running academy city.
I think that's what he meant by nameless mooks. Though honestly, what with the Level 5s' reputation as "people who can take on an army by themselves", I'm glad we get to see one actually beating down militaries. We never get to see Accel and Co. do that kind of stuff out in the open
How will the other Level 5s fight armies?
>Kakine spams Dark Matter
>Mugino shoots lasers
>Misaki makes the soldiers all shoot each other
>Gunha does GUTS
With the exception of Gunha none of those sound very interesting, I bet Kamachi was itching to do that kind of thing with just those two who are the most interesting espers in terms of power applications
She also took out that second dragon, knocked out the team of AC assassins going for Touma, and took out an army of Five-Overs hunting him.
She also gives him advice on electronic shit he can't deal with, saves his life all the time like when he fell off the speeding train, and helps him with his homework.
The problem with Index is there are now two other characters to do her job, and at least one of them can still fight really well. You can't really bring her anywhere without having to protect her constantly so Touma ditches her most of the time.
Again I don't hate her, but Kamachi needs to find another way to make her relevant if she can't fight and there are many others to give analysis. Hell Touma doesn't even really need it anymore, he usual figures shit out himself.
Kakines power is pretty much bullshit at this point. He could literally pull an army out of his ass, and even give them all personal realities (although as we've seen that's generally a bad idea). There's almost no limit to what he can do anymore.