So started watching Fate/Zero to get into the series. Diarmuid!!

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Hi

>>119661673
Kirei is the only good guy.

>>119661737
Why didn't you win the grail?! I was rooting for you and Lancer.

Read the fucking VN.

>>119661799
Sweet dubs, but doesn't F/Z + UBW by ufotable do the job fine?

>>119661836
no

>>119661673
How can he be good if he cursed the grail?

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>>119661673
Deermud a shit and is worst Lancer.

>>119661836
>being this retarded
F/Z spoils most of (I mean 97%) F/SN, UBW can't be jumped in without some knowledge of the Fate route.

>>119662079
to be fair, chulain's spear doesn't have permament damage until death
so with deermud it created a paradox and fucked him over

overal, lancers always get fucked over.

>>119661836
No, terrible idea. You're missing so fucking much.

I'd say the same of Stein's;gate, too, but for some reason /a/ is retarded as fuck and defends anime-only for it.

>>119662140
Remember that Cu's spear has the neat ability of running thorns throughout your body ripping apart your insides after activation and impalement.

>>119661799
dubs is right, read the VN

>>119661836
Assuming Ufotable doesn't make major changes, you're kind of fucking yourself over with the upcoming Heaven's Feel adaptation by starting with Zero.

The way it's being handled, Zero + UBW creates this weird situation where the former covers most of the essentials you'll need for understanding the concept of the grail war, but definitely don't go in thinking UBW is a "sequel" to Zero.

>>119662140
Diarmuid was stabbed with the anti-magic spear, not the permanent wound spear.

I like him because his design looks 10 times better than Cu's hideous blue overload, but in terms of actual strength he is one of the worst heroic spirits for some reason.

>>119662120
Does anyone read F/SN for plot tweests?

>>119662267
No, but F/Z spoils the hell out of them.
I personally played it for the H, I stayed for the fights and story, like MGQ but shittier.

>>119662267
I kind of wish I wasn't spoiled before reading Fate.

I mean I went into Tsukihime clean, and I was just fucking floored once I got to Hisui's ending.

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Isn't it sad Lancer?

>>119661836
No, even if you insist on being secondary scum, Zero shouldn't ever be watched first.

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>>119662499
>Karna never really suffered as Lancer
>Benkei never got his chance to suffer as Lancer

>>119662264
All the other servants that appear in the grail wars are pretty well known, and their ability is boosted by their fame
Not even a handful of people actually know who Deermud is

>>119662499
What's with the furry one?

>>119662603
Cu had it worse since in Japan he gets defamed to some extent since some people know a wrong version of his legend.

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>>119662678
Prisma Cu.

>>119662720
Looks like a goddamn digimon.

>>119662720
Disappointed his berserk form is just furry, but then again
>The first warp-spasm seized Cúchulainn, and made him into a monstrous thing, hideous and shapeless, unheard of. His shanks and his joints, every knuckle and angle and organ from head to foot, shook like a tree in the flood or a reed in the stream. His body made a furious twist inside his skin, so that his feet and shins switched to the rear and his heels and calves switched to the front... On his head the temple-sinews stretched to the nape of his neck, each mighty, immense, measureless knob as big as the head of a month-old child... he sucked one eye so deep into his head that a wild crane couldn't probe it onto his cheek out of the depths of his skull; the other eye fell out along his cheek. His mouth weirdly distorted: his cheek peeled back from his jaws until the gullet appeared, his lungs and his liver flapped in his mouth and throat, his lower jaw struck the upper a lion-killing blow, and fiery flakes large as a ram's fleece reached his mouth from his throat... The hair of his head twisted like the tange of a red thornbush stuck in a gap; if a royal apple tree with all its kingly fruit were shaken above him, scarce an apple would reach the ground but each would be spiked on a bristle of his hair as it stood up on his scalp with rage.

Would any of the artists in Type Moon's payroll draw that?

>>119662140
What paradox

>>119662348
How did fate zero spoil when it happens first?

>>119663183

Thats like saying watching Star Wars episode 1 is a good place to start watching Star Wars. Do you really think knowing Darth Vader is Luke's father is gonna make you enjoy it more?

F/SN spoils literally only one thing in F/Z and that's the winner which is pretty fucking obvious if you watched the first episode. F/Z spoils numerous twists within F/SN in the first episode alone, especially in Heaven's feel. F/SN isn't ment to build on what you know from F/Z, F/Z is ment to build on what you know in F/SN. That's exactly why it's called a prequel.

>>119661737
WAIBA BERUBETOKKUN

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>>119663183
>How can a prequel spoil events of a story that was written before it?

>>119663183
>Angry Manjew
>tainted grail
>Saber
>Gil
>Kiritsugu in general
>Ilya
>Sakura and Rin
etc etc etc.

>>119661673
Diarmuid was a one-dimensional delusional faggot who only existed for one purpose, which was getting killed in the most pathetic way ever. I'm glad he got to suffer.

>>119663255
Star Wars prequels are more like Rebuild than F/Z: something entirely of their own that made use of things from the original to spoonfeed the general audience who didn't even watch it.

EP1 is not a good place to start but it doesn't matter either, because it's just so different.

Let's face it, Ufotable ruined the Fate series forever by adapting Zero first.

>>119663183
Do you even know what a secret reveal from the past or a plot twist is?

>>119666032
I remember ufotable even telling people that the adaption for Zero was fanservice for VN players and go read the fucking VN. If it wasn't for DEEN's license for F/SN ufotable would have adapted F/SN first.

>>119666107
>was fanservice for VN players and go read the fucking VN
Nobody likes secondaries, even Nasu and Takeuchi shit on them.

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>>119662895
Closest thing I've seen so far.
But too skinny/ not warped enough

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I love Fate/Zero. I wish it was a little longer to help flesh things out.

>>119661737
JINGURU BERU JINGURU BERU SEHAI SENSOOOU