Where did it all go so wrong?

wait for the BD fix faggot

>>119333723
She grew up.

>>119333723
Other than the obvious QUALITY problems the shading in UBW looks really shitty compared to Zero and flat as fuck.
What happened to all the budget?

>>119333814
This.

>>119333723
UBW is shit and selling worse than zero.

>>119334042
>secondaries in charge of having good taste

Change in art style. Don't know why ufotable was okay with this weird change though.

>>119333941
Budget's still there; everything looks flatter because they basically got rid of the black outlines and replaced it with pure colour/gradients, giving it a really flat look.

>>119334042
Isn't there a thing with the BD version split up or something? So that you can't tell the total sales.

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>>119333723
Loli Rin was a qt.

>>119334084
>TMfags believing they have good taste

even fatefags are having trouble justifying the endless amounts of meaningless dialogue in their dating sim anime

>>119334235
oh. and the animation is shit, right, that too

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>>119334235
>dating sim anime
But how is it a dating sim when we know what girl Shirou's going to end up with?

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>>119334162
>Budget's still there; everything looks flatter because they basically got rid of the black outlines and replaced it with pure colour/gradients, giving it a really flat look.
They also removed the rim lighting (see pic related) in a lot of shots as well.
The shading is also more low-contrast most of the time as well.

>>119333723
Rin a shit.
A SHIT.

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>>119334291
They still manage to make Saber cute so there's that. Still don't understand why they made a seemingly-backwards change to the style though.

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>>119334474
>Still don't understand why they made a seemingly-backwards change to the style though.
Because "muh Takeuchi art style, muh faithful adaption".

At least everybody isn't running around with gorilla arms.

>>119334474
Because they hate UBW as it is shit

>>119334668
>muh Takeuchi art style
They went overboard, it seems then. Takeuchi's art is soft, not angular.

>>119334722
I was under the impression that ufotable was a bunch of closeted rinfags actually. Would explain that one Rin episode in F/Z.

>>119334162
>Isn't there a thing with the BD version split up or something? So that you can't tell the total sales.
I think Aniplex are doing box sets similarly to Zero.

>>119334042
>UBW killed any chance of a Ataraxia adaption
Fuck Rin. Should've adapted HF.

>>119334803
I thought most of the head-honchos liked Sakura?

>>119334474
>Still don't understand why they made a seemingly-backwards change to the style though.
They redirected their budget from CGI and shading to animation.

Hence why we went from pretty shots of Tokiomi walking in a circle and Gilgamesh lying on a couch to actual animation with less detail in each individual frame.

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>>119335267
Well, I did also hear the director was a Sakurafag. Why can't they like Saber? ;_;

>>119335330
They probably got sick of her because Takeuchi wouldn't shut the fuck up.

>>119335330
wasn't the director an Ilyafag?

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>>119335491
I wonder if after the announcement Takeuchi went to ufotable and demanded a Fate adaptation.

>>119334162
>Isn't there a thing with the BD version split up or something? So that you can't tell the total sales.
Amazon ranking stalker doesn't track sales, but rather gives you an estimate as to how well something is selling. It is generally fairly inaccurate as far as exact values go but it usually gives you a good general idea (G-Reco's being so far off was a very rare case however). There are two versions of UBW on amazon. Both are BD box sets, however one is the regular edition and the other is the special edition. The special edition is more expensive and is the only one stalker is tracking. It generally ranks lower than the regular edition one, so it gives a poor idea of how the series will sell overall. The special edition currently has about 5k points. FZ at this point in time only had about 8/9k points, but wasn't split into two editions like UBW is.

At best, I would expect UBW to sell better than the second season of FZ. If it actually sold better than season one that would be pretty surprising due to how "sequels" usually sell worse than their predecessors.

>>119335509
Yes.
>>119335267
>>119335330
Director is an Illyafag while one of the animation directors is a Sakurafag. Don't know about the rest of the team.

>>119334803
They are fujos

The UBW anime had a new character designer on board, this shouldn't even be news at this point.

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>>119333723
You're comparing a movie with a TV show. The Ufotable Vita openings look much better.

>>119336214
Main difference seems to be that the nose is actually upturned and doesn't just slope downwards.

>>119336214
>You're comparing a movie with a TV show
>Fate/Zero
>TV show

>>119335825
Why did ufotable think that that was a good idea? Surely someone would have spoken up and said that his character designs looked weird?

>>119336214
It helps that the Vita openings have a different animation supervisor.


>>119336320
That can only mean ufo themselves were fine with the designs.

>>119336214
>>119336320
Truthfully, I think the current adaptation has the best looking Rin. The old character designer draws the best Sakura, and that's why he's still in charge of her, but I like the current Rin the best.

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>>119336373
Why ufotable, why?

>>119336273
Oh sorry, I thought it was from the Deen movie, keep bashing then.

>>119336396
>Truthfully, I think the current adaptation has the best looking Rin
She's all over the place. In one moment she's perfect but in the next shot she looks like an alien or a rhino or whatever people are calling her these days.

None of the other characters' designs fluctuate as much as hers. It's annoying as fuck.

>>119336396
She did looked like shit at the beginning, they improved a lot after a few episodes and she ended up looking great by the cour ending.

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>>119336558
And yet all the men stay consistent. Why?

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>>119336672
They are "pandering" to the crowd that has a better buy rate obviously

>>119337169
>implying there are no Rinbucks to be had
There have been threads almost everyday since episode 11 aired about Rin's thighs. There was one earlier today, and another right now.

>>119333723
The part where they decided to adapt UBW

>>119337327
/a/ does not matter in the slightest bit, fact is that Fujo buy more products so pandering to them in some form when you can is generally a good move

>>119337459
>>119337327
>>119337169
Fujos *and Saberfags.

Saber hasn't been suffering anywhere near as much quality as Rin.

>>119337327
That's /a/, the same people that think Zero is one of the worst anime ever made.

>>119337571
>and Saberfags.

I kind of forget that lots of those exist but Saber is also a gold mine.

>>119333723
It's ugly alright, but I don't see how it looks like a rhino.

>>119337811
Kind of hilarious how much Rin is getting upstaged in her own route by everyone else.

>>119337571
Japanese Saberfags are practically the only reason we have adaptations at all.
It's also probably the reason of why we didn't get HF on TV even when it would have made a better "sequel" for F/Z, Japs would set Ufotable on fire if they only get a few Saber scenes and then turn into a almost mute midboss.

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Rin has been pretty consistent since after episode 4. It was a little weird before that; goo spots and bad spots in 0-2, and then a sudden design shift in 3. 4 probably had her at her worst, but after that it weirdly kind of evened out.

>>119337946
Well then it's getting faithfully adapted because that happens in the VN as well. HF has the best developed Rin in my honest opinion

>>119337969
There are lots of reasons why HF didn't get a TV adaptation. First and foremost would be the horrendous censorship. Second, HF only really works when you have a firm understanding of the previous routes. It's not a story that can stand on its own; it's whole thing is twisting elements you've already dealt with.

Another problem is that Zero spoils the fuck out of HF. Half the story would be the characters running around trying to solve mysteries the viewer figured out years ago. The thing about TV shows is that they have to hook you from week to week; UBW is clean in that regard.

>>119338098
Rin gets consistent development in every route. She's like Shirou. You see things from her perspective in the prologue, see her from an outsider's perspective in Fate, you see her more vulnerably and romantically in UBW, and you see her darker side in HF.

>>119338098
You're forgetting the fact how UFOtable is adding a bunch of new material as well and none of it favors Rin.

Like the extended montage of Illya showing off her shiny new familiars and kicking Rin's ass.
Or the scene of Saber and Shirou in the shed.
Or the scene of Taiga at Kiritsugu's grave.

>>119338203
>Or the scene of Saber and Shirou in the shed.

Literally the only new scene Saber has gotten. Saber has had every optional scene of hers skipped, and even had mandatory ones taken away.

Rin's had multiple new scenes including action ones. Are you forgetting her taking out the skeletons from Caster in episode 4?

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>>119338129
Forget Saber, the new Gilgamesh fanbase that Zero reeled in would be even madder at his ultimate jobbing to Sakura in HF.

At least Kotominefags would be happy.

>>119335631

can't really compare zero and ubw since stalker changed how points are calculated for expensive items. Both UBW and Hyouka dropped from like 8k to 5k immediately after the change.

>>119338249
>Are you forgetting her taking out the skeletons from Caster in episode 4
The scene in the office building? It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure that's on the VN.

>>119336265

Different character designers. The PV's were made by the designer for Zero I think while the UBW anime is by the dude that was the designer for Yuyushiki

>>119338201
>Rin gets consistent development in every route.

She is the deuteragonist after all, it does feel that she gets downgraded to heroine in her route.

>>119338257
He doesn't exactly job to Sakura in HF but i can see some mad anime-only Fujo's in the future even if that is the only time in F/SN he gets remotely serious.

>>119338370
I think it's casually mentioned she was scouting Caster, but they don't show her fighting or what happened.

>>119338203
>Like the extended montage of Illya showing off her shiny new familiars and kicking Rin's ass.
That's still an original scene with Rin m8, your standards for what favors Rin are hypocritical as fuck

>>119338431
The last episode alone had that extended scene at her house dealing with Archer.

Ufotable has not been doing bad to Rin.

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Why did everyone in God Eater get noses while everyone that isn't Kirei in UBW got turned into voldemort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TVwHBGvYg

>>119338538
>no obnoxious use of gradients and bloom
What happened to the UFOTable I once knew?