Could incest be the solution to Japan's declining population?

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>>119309584
Wouldn't all the incest babies just die from the Japanese cold or something else?

>>119309584
>Japan's declining population
Why do people keep making it sound like that's a problem?
They are over-populated, not underpopulated.

Their real problem is the aging of the population, but if you wish to solve that by breeding, you're running into a never-ending explosion of population, which of course cannot work.

In the age of increasing automation, the real way is to accept that the average age goes up and that machines take over labor that was previously done by humans. That requires a new economical system, but ours is running on its last legs anyway.

>>119309584
If anything it's worsening it. No one wants a disfigured baby AT ALL in Japan especially, so if a lot are getting away with it.

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>Are retard babies the solution to anything

No! That's a horrible idea to fix the pop problem.

A single instance of incest between siblings really doesn't put you at a higher risk of genetic abnormalities in most cases. You need to do it for several generations to make Habsburgs.

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Not if mamare keep being a dense harem MC and don't understand his sister is the best girl.

>>119309584
>everyone has brown or black eyes
>everyone has black hair
>many with mongoloid features
they're already inbred

>>119310058

The same could be said of the Finns.

>>119309677
Yeah this, it's crazy how fucking dense Tokyo is.

>>119310101
rude

>>119309584
Clearly yes because:
>Retardations are mutations
>Evolution means slowly mutating based on your environment and needs
>Therefore retard babies have a chance of evolving faster
>Japanese übermenchs society rures over the worduru as they are the pinnacle of evolution

>>119310325

That's not how evolution works.

>>119310101
You'd better apologise to Tokyo.

>>119310325
>Evolution means slowly mutating based on your environment and needs

No, evolution means that those mutations might not harm or even be useful to you if your environment changes.

>>119310491
It's always the dense harem MC's fault. Tokyo should apologize to Anonymous.

No,the solution is to reform their retarded immigration laws. Right now they base citizenship on "blood". Basically youre only japanese if one of your parents is ethnically Japanese who were born in japan. So even if you wereborn in Japan and lived there all tyour life and both parents are citizens, both if neither parent is Japanese you arent citizen.

>>119310576
But*

>>119310253
>>119310491
Fuck you, it's the truth.

>>119309584
>incest
>in the island of inbreeding
This won't end happily.

>>119310576

Mass immigration would destroy Japan's national identity. Japan is not America.

funny thing about first gen incest.

unless you know for sure you have a genetic defect, the odds of producing a baby with a defect is no higher than a woman in her late 30s trying to get pregnant.

American autists are what japanese incest would turn into.

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>>119310520
"eh? nandatte?"

>>119310576
If one of your parents is a Japanese citizen at time of your birth than you are a Japanese citizen, too.

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>>119310325
>the worduru

Most Japanese people are only children. So even if incest wasnt a pants-on-head retarded solution, it still wouldn't work cause most people wouldn't have any siblings to fuck anyway.

>>119310576
Fuck off Arudou.

>>119310576
>you're only japanese if you are japanese
Makes perfect sense to me, what are you, an american?

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>>119310576
>the solution is to reform their retarded immigration laws.
The solution is to fuck, a lot.
they need to make fucking a club activity or something.

>>119310576
Take it easy Sven

>make waifu bots
>all otakus and herbivore men have sex with their waifus
>waifus capture the sperm
>implant sperm into females
>problem solved

>>119311030
>gets implemented in America
>women track down the owner of the sperm they receive
>force you to pay child support

>>119310576
Jus soli a shit.

>>119311030

You watched Rick and Morty eh

>>119309584
>implying there are enough siblings to make a difference

Technically speaking, isn't a higher incest factor inevitable for your following generations unless you mix in some new people?

>>119311693
Not really, there's enough racial differentiation within a given population to prevent bottlenecking. You must realize that even incest within one generation doesn't yield exceptionally high chances of defects or emergence of negative recessive traits, unless it's between twins. It's just that incest is taboo.

>>119311912
>unless it's between twins

That doesn't make sense

>>119312189
How so?

Japan's birthrate is too low for incest to fix it. Not enough people even have opposite-sex siblings.

>>119311912
B-But twincest is the best incest

Legalize rape when it's in order to breed and ban abortions

>>119311030
>children of the trough.png

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If monozygotic twins of the opposite sex fuck, would a clone be born?

>>119312225
They either are genetically just normal siblings or they can't make kids anyway.

>>119310576
sweden no

I think rape is the answer.
I remember a doujin where it's a bunch of high school girls that pretty much could be fucked at ANY time.
There's a hilarious page where the track team chases after a girl to fuck her.

>>119309658
>Implying any baby has a chance.

>>119312225
If they are identical twins, they can't have offspring because both are male or female.
If they are not, it's the same as being normal siblings.

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>>119309584
>>119310690
By the way. Saipu manga ended. They got married and have a daughter

>>119312456
Oreimo really changed the game guys and I'm happy.

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>>119312456
He was adopted or something. Full raws at senmanga

>>119310029
Why did Mamare forsaken us?
He didn't come back for S2.
;_;

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>>119312445
Truth be told, I don't actually know anything about incest, I was just spouting bullshit.

>>119312456
Nice spoilers.

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>>119312456

>>119312499
Well, as long as they're not blood related.

>>119312499
Was it rape?

>>119310576
Hello my somalian friend

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>>119312499
Grown-up Saipu's so cute.

>>119312456
>>119312499
>Scanlations more than 80 chapters behind.
Well, damn.

>>119312585
Of course not.

Incest doesn't work for Japan as population strategy since they mostly don't even have 2 children per couple so the child would have to H it up with their parent and especially in the mother's case she'd be too old and birth down's. And in few generations they'd be rife with hereditary diseases.

>>119310576

I'm guessing they want Japan be still Japan, genetically and culturally, and not replaced by other society.

Just because America is a mess and Yurop is suiciding itself doesn't mean that's the way to go.

>>119312456
And he is still after his daughter?

>>119311207
>child support
not everyone in america are retarded blondes or black

>>119312499
DROPPED

invade taiwan and force the taiwanese to move to japan

>>119309584

Wasn't there this article about mothers fucking their children to teach them about sex?

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>>119310325

>>119310704
>Implying that's a loss

>>119309688
>>119309739
Retard babies only happen after second generation inbreeding, there's literally nothing wrong with fucking your sister and having a baby with her.

>>119310576
I'm so envious of Japan simply because they haven't been brainwashed by "progressiveness" and pressured into letting every fucking retard who arrives into the country. America has become a shithole for specifically this reason. They should have stopped letting immigrants in after that initial wave in the early 1900s.

>>119320180
>I'm so envious of Japan simply because they haven't been brainwashed by "progressiveness" and pressured into letting every fucking retard who arrives into the country.

Why would they? All of the natives are already retarded.

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>>119320206
>The family tree consists of boxes

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>>119312350
In monozygotic twins of the opposite sex, the female twin will be infertile. This is because monozygotic twins of the opposite sex only occur when the zygote starts off as male (XY), followed by one of the zygotes losing it's Y-chromosome, which results in an infertile female baby with only 1 X chromosome.

All this aside, a hypothetical baby would not be a clone in the sense that it would not look identical to mom/dad, since it might exhibit recessive genes both parents possess but do not exhibit, due to the nature of sexual reproduction.

>>119320206
>manly as fuck chin
>long elegant nose giving off nobleman swag
>baby-face and eyes so he looks eternally youthful
>sperm so strong no pleb-womb could handle it

Clearly incest is the best choice.

>>119317986
>suiciding itself
No shit, Scherlock. I thought somebody else was suiciding them

>>119310576
Can't see how that is a bad thing

>>119320180
oh yes, anon. Because isolation worked out so great for japan.

>>119320873
>The physician who practiced his autopsy stated that his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."

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>>119320964
>implying perverted mangos and animus are not a result of their isolation.
/a/ would be a boring place if nippon was full of normal well adjusted people, what would we shitpost about?

>>119310576

Why is /a/ so spiteful toward this brilliant mind?

Can't you goy - guys - realize, that if Japan forsakes its xenophobic views on immigration, that will benefit not only their society, but you personally as well.
If they welcome immigrants with open arms, as every country should in the 21'st century, that will open the door for you to enjoy the highschool life you've always wanted! Imagine, going to a beautiful, exotic, multicultural Japan, living your life in peace surrounded by cute girls and even finding your dream wife there.
It can become reality. It doesn't need to be a dream. All that is required, is change. Change for the better.

>>119320180
>Initial wave of immigrants
>early 1900s
Are you retarded or do you simply not know anything about American history? America is built upon immigration and large amounts of immigration has happened since the 17th century. The problem is not the immigration itself, immigration has worked very well for a long time. The fucking problem is that after the new trend of progressive tolerance means that the newest waves of immigrants are refusing to assimilate into the culture and latch onto the special snowflake bullshit that progressiveness pushes.
Rest assured though, this problem always corrects itself with time. After just 1 or 2 generations an immigrant's original culture is pretty much lost.

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>>119310576
No, die.

>>119321513
That's the point I was trying to make. When my family immigrated, they immediately tried to be americans. Immigrants for the last 20-30 years or so are entitled shitheads who refuse to change, to the point where fucking voting ballots are in Spanish.

>>119321180
What would anime even be like if it was created by those kinds of people?

>>119321654
Don't worry sooner or later America official language will be Spanish.

>>119321706
Something like Sesame Street, but for older people.

>>119309584
They should send 4chan to fertilize japanese women

>>119321845

>>119321757
They'd be like American sitcoms and long running cop shows.

>>119321845
I aint giving away my aryan master genes for free

>>119321903
>/a/
>aryan master genes

>>119321903
>my aryan master genes
Why are you on /a/?

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>>119321999
Because I like shitposting on a forum for japanese folklore enthusiasts?

>>119321654
>Immigrants for the last 20-30 years or so are entitled shitheads who refuse to change,
That's usually the case when they don't find a place in society.
Quite often they are put into separate districts where they live among others of their heritage and the only thing they get from the country they immigrated to is low paying shitty jobs.
I'm not in support of immigration, but if people feel like they are part of a community, they feel inclined to adapt to that community.

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>>119310576
So? That keeps niggers, coreans, slavshits and other scum out. It's not like murka, where illegals can mooch off of the gubermint, get driver's licenses and vote or yoroppa where you can kill white people in broad day light and get away scott free.

Honestly, Japan is the only country on Earth that's actually fit for living. Just look at murka with its retarded immigration laws, common core, feminism, censorship, lolbertards, false flags and other shit. Look at yoroppa with its sandnigger loving, black dick gobblers of a population or Russia with commieblocks and Putin warmongering and annexing territories and having a tottering economy and plunging ruble as a result of that, or China with its pollution problem and communism, or South Korea always living in fear of being nuked by the fatty up north. Japan got no niggers, well except in roppongi, but you're not gonna be able to see them much unless you really want to, unlike in the US or yoroppa, no femanazis, no pollution problems, no common core no bullshit, so if you're a skilled worker, you might be able to land a job there and get a citizenship if you really want to and forget about the nightmare that is America, yoroppa or russia or whatever shithole you come from.

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>>119310576

>>119321513
That is legitimately retarded. I know for a fact that in the 19th century there were still still enclaves of dutch speaking areas in the United States. New Amsterdam (or York if you will) only became a British Colony in the late 17th century.

>>119322116
Except for the fact that nippon has the most fucked up business culture known to man, is run by old geezers, follows retarded laws on pornograpghy (though britbongs are catching up) and is filled with males who don't even know how to act like a fucking man if their life depended on it.

I'll be taking it easy in yurop stroking my BWC to 2D's while you actually live in the shithole the 2D's are drawn

>>119321513
>immigration
Well, ain't that work out great, moron. Look where it got America. America is now a fucking shithole full of niggers, spics and jews who run it. White people will be a minority by 2050. Yay immigration!

no, the solution is to get all the young people to move out of the cities in the western/south half the country and move up into the north half of the country. Japan is for all purposes unpopulated north of Tokyo, excepting Sendai and Sapporo. Cheaper living in the lower population density areas and some economic development into logging, mining, and farming, will make young people feel secure enough to get married and have children.

>>119322299
Still much better than seeing niggers. I'd choose Nippon over murka any day. So i'd better take my chances in japan than always have to live in fear of getting shot at in murka.

>>119322373
>immigration gets people into the country
>that is bad because it gets people into the country
At least put your criticism into words instead of assuming that everybody shares your feelings about what certain things mean.

>>119322439
>niggers, spics
>people
Are you even trying?

>>119322373
But ... "blacks" immigrated to the States around the same time "whites" did. And Mexicans are mostly native Americans with some Spaniard mixed in them.

>>119322373
>White people will be a minority by 2050. Yay immigration!

Without immigration there would be 0 white people in america, genius

>>119322492
Replace the word with whatever you want. It doesn't change the problem with your reasoning - which is that you omit it.

>>119322492
/pol/ please

>>119321513
>>119310576
immigration doesn't grow the economy. you allow immigration when your economy is growing and labor is in demand. you'll just get a bunch of aficans, SEasians, indians, muslims, and latinos. They'll all demand welfare monies, special treatment like things published in their original language. Just look at europe. They have been trying to prop up their economies through immigration of third worlders for decades. It has been a failure, even to the point of the pro immigration parties admitting it. the immigrants are a drain on the economy and cause increases in crime.

>>119322562

You might be mistaking colonization for immigration.
Hm. Maybe not.

>>119322299
>Except for the fact that nippon has the most fucked up business culture known to man
They have the world's third biggest economy, in spite of almost two decades of stagnation. They must be doing something right.
>is run by old geezers
Like every country in the world and in all of history.
>follows retarded laws on pornograpghy
Can't argue with that one.
>and is filled with males who don't even know how to act like a fucking man if their life depended on it.
What is manly? Being prone to violence? Fucking lots of women? American 'urban youths' are very manly, then. I'll take the herbivores over them.

>>119322562
>people actually believe all the whites/yellows will become brown by 2050

Doesn't same-race relationships ring a bell with you fuckers? Do you all have the BBC/black booty fever?

>>119322711
>to the point of the pro immigration parties admitting it.
It's always been my understanding that left wing supports immigration for humanitarian reasons (and accepts the financial trouble that comes with it) while the right wing disapproves it.

Where was this ever different?

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>>119309584

> Could incest be the solution to Japan's declining population?

how? that would create retard babies

I actually admire japan even more for their declining population.
I salute the herbivore men who choose not to be in relationships. if i am not mistaken, they are the chief reason the population of japan is declining.

>>119322738
>I'll take the herbivores over them.
That's what they all say in the beginning, but instinct will win over logic in the end.

>>119322557
Niggers didn't 'immigrate', they were enslaved and were supposed to have no rights and pick fucking cotton all their niggery life, but now since we got rid of apartheid, niggers feel right at home sticking up stores and living on welfare and liberals are so proud of them that they even want more niggers to come to the states in order to enrich America and also trying to take away guns while they're at it. And mexishits? Fuck them. They now got more rights than citizens. Why the fuck should a person that was working hard all their life trying to enter the US legally have less rights than some mexican fucking fuckup who hopped over the border and can legally drive cars and be adored by liberals? What the fuck is this shit?
>>119322557
I'm not against immigration, doofus. I'm against encouraging illegal immigration, that's what the kikes and liberals do.

>>119322672
Nigger spotted.

>>119322793
That's not immigration. That's about taking in refugees. Most right wing parties were in favor of immigration three decades back because it decreased the cost of labor and most left wing parties were opposed because it would weaken the Unions and lessen the societal solidarity that is needed for welfare to be handed out.

>>119322947
Ah, thanks.
That makes sense.

>>119312342
Underrated post

>>119322562

well, minorities have more kids than white people, and that's because minorities(hispanics and blacks) tend to be uneducated. They have kids despite living in poor conditions. Only a dumb fuck would have kids while living in poverty.

>>119323111
What else other than fucking your waifu is there to do when you have no job and you're too normal for anime?

>>119323111
I know right? We'd actually be doing them all a favor if we sterilized the bunch of them.

>>119323179
learning to fucking read would be somewhere to start

getting a job would help too

>>119323179
>when you have no job
How about getting one?

>>119323179
Try not to cum inside? Oh wait, I forgot niggers are too stupid and don't know where babies come from, they just go m-muh dik over DA BOOTY and bam they got a nigglet who needs moneh fo dem programs.

>>119323219
> learn to fuck 'n read
that's what your girlfriend said to me too.

>>119323111

And i am not excluding myself. I am a poor white. I know better than to have a kid because i know having a kid will make my poverty worse because i'll have another mouth to feed.

>>119323322
Get the kid a job and the brat might just pay your bills.

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>>119312456
Seems to me then that the solution to Japan's declining birth problems is to mix-up babies at maternity wards and hand them out to unsuspecting parents for future govt-sponsored wincest.

>>119310576
Japan is a great country with an actual seance of identity and a single culture, and it is better for it.

Now look at other countries and how shit the "multi-cultural" thing makes them.

People have no common ground on which to view things, are always on guard and alienated from one an other. Sometimes they don't even have a core language to function around.

And because people don't have the same core values and feel alienated it causes them to look for those things in the wrong place and spreads crime and in extreme cases creates terrorists.

A little bit of immigration over decades or centuries is fine, when the immigrants are fully ready to integrate in to the culture they are moving to.

But when huge numbers move to a country over just a few uses and they refuse to adapt to the culture of the country they are moving to it is a major problem.

Right now all of Europe needs to slam there doors tight shut and let no immigrants in at all. No UK to Spain or France to Germany, totally slammed shut for the next 100 years to let culture in all those countries stabilise.

Once the culture in all those countries stabalises, a sence of national identity is achieved, the population is stabilised (neither shrinking or growing) and crime is near 0% then you can re-open the borders but this time control it, like letting 10,000 people or less in/out of the country.

>>119325312
Culture is cancer no different from religion and just as the world will be better when religion is gone, the world will be better when cultural diversity is too.
Eradicate culture.

It is very prevalent lately to the current releases in JAV.

Maybe it's now accepted there

>>119321133
Then how did he even live?

>>119310576

>No,the solution is to reform their retarded immigration laws

Mr SJW McCuckingstein please leave

>>119325494
He was dead.
Otherwise there wouldn't have been an autopsy.

>>119320897
>whats a joke

retard

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>>119310576

>>119325391
but muh board culture

>>119309765
Fuck off, normalfaggot. I can already tell this isn't bait.

>>119325391
Go fuck yourself.

>>119320099
There's nothing wrong with making a baby with your cousin. Your sister is still a problem

>>119325786
>There's nothing wrong with making a baby with your cousin.
Agreed.
>Your sister is still a problem
Just give her the D too and she'll stop complaining.

>>119325786

>There's nothing wrong with making a baby with your cousin

America please

>>119310576
Fuck off, you filth. Xenophobia and isolationism are the preservation of culture.

This thread was supposed to be about incest. Fuck off, muricunts.

>>119325391
>no cultural diversity or religion
How the fuck am I supposed to make fun of and laugh at someone if they share the same values as me and everyone else?

>>119325927
amerifats are mad because their country is becoming a nigger paradise, I do understand them though

>>119325927
Then phrase it better, retard.
The OP is /pol/ territory. And /pol/ is what it got.

Realistically, Japan's problem's will, like China's fix themselves in 20-30 years as their majority elderly population dies off.

Their population numbers will decline to a healthy level, level off, and then , yes, their GDP will decline too, but eventually, it'll normalize.

The government will need to do some social programs to motivate people to make babies and families, though.

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>>119325884
>Implying culture should be preserved
>Implying technological stagnation is good
>implying social stagnation is good

>>119310576
Then you have the problems americans have about immigration, which is everyone dropping anchor babies to anchor themselves to the place and avoid immigration laws.

No, what they need is EXCEPTIONS to the Blood citizenship, like awarding 'citizenship' under specific, rare conditions.

A problem japan has is of inviting worthy foreigners to find it a good idea to come over and invest and live in Japan. Nowadays, it's not worth it.

>>119326242
I said fuck off. Your kind are only the enemy.

>>119326242
>>119325884
There needs to be a balance here.

Isolationism and Xenophobia only limit tourism and create social problems, meanwhile a complete, american-style overhaul of the immigration laws would fucking murder Japan's stability.

Japanese kids are already fucking insane and hyper isolated, when I've met foreign exchange students, they're literally like surprised at our way of life , diets, everything.One friend of mine even said "You have more black people than I thought."

No, it's better if they try something else.

Just let all the disgusting weaboos emigrate there.

I was watching NHK World the other day and saw a piece about an orange farm that struggles to sell their goods and has only one or two people running the farm now because young people move away. Imagining moving to the Japanese countryside, joining a rich family farm and working your way up, getting involved in the advertizing and convincing them to use a cute anime girl to sell their oranges to otaku, along with making merchandise. And use all the other stuff you learned from No-Rin.

Eventually the elderly farm owner considers you his own son and wants you to marry his daughter who is away in Tokyo studying. Then you marry the Kaga Koko, inherit the farm and raise your own little Barakamon. You could even teach English at the local school to genki browning tomboy girls.

^ If you sell the above to foreign weaboos, farms all over the country will fill up with applicants. Japan is one of the few modern countries to not have their farms fully mechanized and dominated by university-educated managers.

>>119326416
Most americans, specially the type that enjoys anime, vidya, ect, are too lazy to enjoy the concept of having to work in farm-life.

I lived that since I was a little kid, and I'll tell ya, even with machines, and well educated university folk helping make it more efficient, there's still too much work to make it profitable, 12 hour work days and loads of back breaking labor.

Nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find a girl willing to live that life outside of rural counties.

low birth rate is not their problem. shitloads of baby boomers on pensions are.

i recommend promoting euthanasia as greater good.

>>119309584
no incentives; plans/jobs are needed

>>119326592
It's why you should buy and support farm-related propaganda anime and manga. Stuff like No-Rin that convinces you to move to the countryside.

>>119322828
The women are actually contributing the same amount to the population. Both sides feel they cannot handle a successful job and a marriage, or they feel that they cannot find a suitable partner. There was a recent study on this, it's not just the men.

>>119309677
>I don't understand how birthrates work

Anything below a sustainable birthrate will end a civilization in no less than 8 generations.

Once 3 generations have passed below a sustainable birthrate, if you cannot double the birthrate from then on, the civilization will die out or have to be severely diluted with outside genetic material.

Once 5 generations have passed, you need to quadruple the birthrate.
6, octuple.
7, 16x.
8 it's gone.

>>119326118
>the government will need to do some social programs to motivate people to make babies and families, though.
Unnecessary, best course of action is >>119322414
By the next decade, automation will improve significantly, especially Japan which is one of the leading nation on robotics, and manual labor demand won't even be half as much.
Creating more babies right now will only create depression and unemployment in the next couple of decades, which will lead to more crimes and other stuff.

>>119326803
That doesn't say anything to what he says.

Making babies isn't a problem, the problem is a social and economic one.

>>119326345
>I said fuck off.

And I am inclined to follow the commands of the opposition because... ?

>>119326376
>There needs to be a balance here.

Correct.

A totally monolithic culture has little chance of succeeding within the realm of experiential expectation. Change and adaptation go hand in hand with the acceptance of fallibilism, which is necessary for advancement.

Simultaneously, multicultural states can not flourish. Not because of some idiotic notions regarding the natures of the races of man, but because multiple groups with insurmountable existential differences and mandates for domination competing over the same resources necessarily leads to conflict and can not yield long term stability.

>>119326754
This woman is a good example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cllO4KcdwLc

It's how modern people operate. They have it good as kids, realize that they're screwed when they grow up, so they focus on what they want now and refuse to settle down. Even though Japan hasn't gone full feminist and is a pretty conservative place, the men don't want to take charge and look after their women. It's so much easier to be a single freeter with anime, videogames and porn, than a married salaryman that lives at the office, has a wife who loses interest once she has kids and they both are waiting until death.

It started in Japan, it's what the West will look like in five or ten years time, only with more immigrants. Until the government produces more incentives for men, stops creating quotas and giving non-jobs to women, and tries to make marriage appealing for men again, things will only get worse. They took away the mystery of marriage and monogamy by promoting NTR in films and television, debauchery and feminist quotas.

>>119327112
>with the acceptance of fallibilism, which is necessary for advancement
Not true, please elaborate if you honestly think so.

>>119326592
A job is a job. Service jobs fill up the cities now and they don't produce anything, other than serving the people in the city that work other service jobs.

It's an entire industry built around serving and comforting other workers in non-jobs and those with free time.

>>119327112
muricans are nothing more than cancer anywhere that isn't their own "progressive" oversensitive shithole.

>>119326376
>No, it's better if they try something else.
ferguson

>>119327172
>and feminist quotas
>feminazis are NTRshits

You've increased my hatred even further. Give me more.

>>119327172
You /pol/ idiots are so fucking retarded.

> Until the government produces more incentives for men, stops creating quotas and giving non-jobs to women, and tries to make marriage appealing for men again, things will only get worse. They took away the mystery of marriage and monogamy by promoting NTR in films and television, debauchery and feminist quotas.
Except none of this happened in Japan, and they have even bigger problems with marriages than the West.

>>119327172
>only with more immigrants.
they will continue to have kids

also marriage/children is mostly a construct of society to keep betas satisfied and the population going instead of alphas fucking all the women and taking care of none of them

>>119327221
Please explain to me how you expect to go anywhere once you reject the notion that there is any potential to be wrong on some position.

Notions of infallibility only serve to breed dogma.

>>119310576
not content with destroying the west , huh hook nose?

>>119327331
Yes, it did. It was all imported from the West.

Women work salaryman type positions in companies, usually working fewer hours than the men. Plenty of companies have opened up positions for women but expect less from them. As for NTR, any romantic soap opera on TV will teach lonely housewives that men are scum apart from the one that got away, who NTRed her for some chick. Feminism isn't all about naked chicks screaming through megaphones. A lot of it is subtle, implemented through mandatory quotes enforced by government quangos and other agencies. One of the main theories about feminism is that the leading women of the movement in the 70s colluded with the CIA/government officials to try and make women into citizens they could tax. In a one-breadwinner household, only the man was taxed since he was the one with job. With women in the workforce, a lot of non-jobs had to be created, just so they could tax more people. Any government would be mad not to jump at an opportunity to tax people. It also works out for the upper classes, since men and women in the lower classes are no longer united against the rich. Instead they work out that it's men or women that are the problem and stop fighting a class war altogether.

>>119327267
And Japan is perfect example of a monolithic culture where people are happy healthy and... of wait, if that were true this thread wouldn't exist.

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>>119309677
Few parts of Japan is overpopulated, when there is old mining cities which are almost abandoned these days.
They have huge issue with aging population too. Low birth rates and huge age group pensioning are also part of the problem.

>>119325831
sister<cousin
murika ftw

Can someone tell me, honestly, how serious Japans problem is? I feel like /a/ is really over blowing but I don't know shit. The way /a/ talks it's like literally no one in Japan is having children or something.

>>119322711
>the immigrants are a drain on the economy and cause increases in crime.
would be a damn shame; being to nipland it's such a nice clean/orderly place compared to most of the world.. wouldn't want niggers fucking it up

>>119320099
Isn't it that there's only a high chance after 5 generations?

>>119327455
>Notions of infallibility only serve to breed dogma
This goes both ways, rather than discussing meta-discussions, how about elaborating your claims on what is necessary for advancement and what is not?

>>119327610
Americans laughing and criticizing Japan's declining population is like a obese kid whining because someone actually lose weight.

>>119327637
But people move into cities. It's the modern thing to do.
In the near future, there will be only robots and robot handlers out in the rural regions.
Also, old people.

>>119327706
No it's not a big deal of a problem, and if you actually read the thread you actually know, that most of the posters are calling out people who thinks so.

>>119327835
How about we just let things decline to the point that they actually get hard for people?

Modern life is very sedentary so people don't really care about marriage or living off their parents or getting better employment. They can live comfortably in a rather lazy way.

So you let things get worse. Make it so that being unemployed means living on the streets and starving to death. Let them return to a 1930s depression era where suddenly people are desperate to work anything including manual labour. People will stop being picky about working as rockstars or animators or celebrities, and they'll actually work hard jobs and appreciate them.

>>119327912
I'll keep that in mind next time I have to be put in intensive care for the common cold.

>>119327706
It's not that big of a problem but Japan does need to do something about the younger generation not breeding

>>119327912
You haven't explain anything at all. You just vent your anger at how superior America is compare to any other counties.

>>119327835
> rather than discussing meta-discussions...

Are you implying they aren't related?

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>>119327996
>animators
>not hard

>>119327996
People aren't getting married because supporting a family is almost impossible to do on a single income.
Making things more difficult won't solve anything, at best you'll end up with shit-tier retards who pump out kids they can't support.

People working in shit-tier service jobs are doing so because "hard jobs" are outsourced to shit-holes, factory jobs are few and far between.

>>119328067
I'm not the guy you were having a conversation with. I just replied from the front page.

>>119327925
Moving to cities has been going on every country since 1960-1970's. Infrastructual problem is that you can't build enough industry around highly populated areas, where most of the exporting happens.

Keep going /a/, I'm almost certain we can come up with a solution to Japan's population crisis in one thread.
It's not like the government and specialist agencies over there have been speculating about this for twenty years now.

Why don't we just ship sperm to Japan like we already do with Europe?

Why don't we just launch Japan into space and let them colonize Mars?

>>119328526
>colonize Mars
>don't fuck
>dies off in one generation

>>119327610
We're talking about the declining rate of births, you fucking idiot.

>>119328094
Jesus christ I make more than a CG animator working right now at a non pro job since i have a shitty art degree.

>>119327767
No,it happens even in the first generation of incest with a Relationship coefficent of over 50%
See for example Patrick Stuebing

>>119328569
>Be at the forefront of science, technology and animated cheap entertainment
>Don't fuck
>Suddenly no more robotics, anime or weird fetishes

I want Japan to get itself right, just so I can have more anime

>>119328621
You can't compare it like that.
I don't know where you are living, but odds are the costs of living in Japan are higher.

>>119328473
Or do the cheaper thing and send in the slavs.

Just posted this on /int/ in a discussing on the same subject.

This is the example the entire world should follow. Literally the only people concerned about this are bankers and the like because "muh infinite growth". The population will stabilize at a natural level lower than that created by the 19th and 20th centuries, the centuries that needed vast armies of workers for manual factory labor and swarms of conscripts to die in world wars.

In exchange for a goal of infinite economic growth, they will have a stable population with less inequality and much less impact on the environment. There is literally no problem with this.

>>119328758
Fuck off, neo-malthusian shill.

>>119309584
You mean they don't actually do incest?
Are their Animes and Mangas just lies??
HAVE THEY BEEN LYING TO US THIS WHOLE TIME?!

>>119328406
Funny thing is there's actually no problem at all.
It's just ignorant /v/ermins here insisting to provide a solution even though they know next to nothing about the nation.
Maybe if you actually read the thread, you'll know that kind /a/nons are informing these poor souls that everything is daijobu and nothing to worry about.

>>119328798
Go back to being ignorant, amerifats.

>>119312499
fucking NBR

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>tfw reading this thread and living in a multicultural shithole

This thread exists and there is no reason for it.

>>119329024
maybe 2015 will be the year everything turns around?