So, I-I know I'm late but, I just finished this and I was

>>119199075

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I liked it. No dumbass twists, no bittersweet ending, just happy. Sometimes that's all you need, I think. Also, I assumed the fainting was due to Yuna not being fully recovered. It felt like months since she moved so maybe she was still rusty.

>>119213454
my bad, thanks anon

>>119213483
I thought the same at first, but the way it's handled animation and music wise makes me think otherwise, as if it's something more important. Maybe it's covered by some other material of the franchise.

>>119213673
People were upset because they figured it was just an asspull and never bothered putting much thought into it. Speculation has been running free ever since the show ended though. Most popular ones are around Yuuna still fighting alone (the skit's script title and script might suggest that), either as the sole remaining hero of Shinju-sama (her fairy doesn't disappear like the others after the fight so maybe she wasn't relieved of service) or as an independent entity (her last mankai was without henshin, she touched the Vertex untransformed too, the creators said the series advocates human power instead of miracles or divine power).

>>119213454
>Oh, you wanted to discuss this nice anime you just watched?
>Too bad, join our general circlejerk instead!
I'm taking part in it too, but I can see a post like OP's just being told to check the archives.

s2 never?

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>>119214346
some day,but yuuna chapter ended there (pd fuu is cute but is mine)

>>119214346
Yeah I replied a bit hastly to >>119213454 , discussion could probably go on here after the other thread ends.

>>119214257
I want a season of what happened of the last generation of heroes, with Nogi Sonoko.

>>119214614
Fuck, reverse the quoted posts.

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I like the theory that Yuna is still a hero. If you notice, she didn't have any petals fall on her, meaning that her guardian thing (whatever they were called) didn't go away. The fainting might be her coming back from a battle.

>>119214614

I'd rather find out what happens next in the story as soon as possible, rather than put that on hold for years while an adaptation of events we already know about comes out.

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>>119214664
Another possibility is that Yuuna broke the contract with Shinju at the moment of her last mankai, and from them onwards she was fighting using her own power.

>>119214726
I'm okay with that too. I hope the show does well in sales so we get something new soon.

I thought it was a good show, but not a great one. A little similar to Madoka in some ways, but I think the slice of life parts made me more attached to the Yuushabus than I was to Madoka's characters. Fight scenes were sort of meh and boiled down to "I'll transform/punch really hard." At least the enemy designs were cool.

>>119213299
I didn't like the ending as much as I wanted to because I felt it was too convenient. The heroes win by punching really hard, apparently defeated all of the vertexes, and recover from their injuries because they just do.

I assume Yuuna fainting was because she isn't completely better. None of the other girls recovered instantly.

>>119214664
>>119214257
I thought it was pretty clear the "hero tale" Tougou read was just intended to parallel Yuuna being 'alone' in that she was so disabled she couldn't interact with the rest of the world, and that she was fighting by herself to get better like the others.

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>>119215008
>I thought it was pretty clear the "hero tale" Tougou read was just intended to parallel Yuuna being 'alone' in that she was so disabled she couldn't interact with the rest of the world, and that she was fighting by herself to get better like the others.
This line doesn't add up.

>>119214489
It didn't actually say that. Yuuki Yuuna chapter may as well have only just started.

>>119215208
Ooh, I missed that. Good point.

>>119215208
This goes well with the theory about Yuuki staying a hero while the other girls stopped.

>>119215208
Why doesn't it?

>>119216559
Because they all know the hero is alone in that context.

>>119216658
But they don't know she's fighting to come back, only at the end Tougou says she thinks she returned by herself.

>>119216719
They know enough to talk to her everyday and keep believe she will come back. That line still would have little purpose in that case.
Not to mention they have enough precedents to know that sensory and motor deprivation while still conscious is a possibility.

>>119213299
It's because it wasn't a satisfying conclusion to what the actual plot was with the girls caught up in the hero system. I came away not understanding what was actually resolved with regards to the Taisha tricking everyone which was the main conflict of the story, or what the characters actually accomplished. In particular Togo's life being ruined twice as a sacrifice to Shinju-sama and the part where she nearly destroyed the universe in blind and possibly completely unjustified revenge wasn't really addressed.

The ending just said everything was solved and didn't explain why or how. I think this is why so many people are so quick to engage in mental gymnastics and conspiracy theory shenanigans to convince themselves that there was more to the ending than was presented, that there's a twist to it or something.

I don't buy into that because this show was very direct all throughout and because I don't care about anything past the narrative presented in the show. It was a conclusion that didn't live up to what it was built up to be.

>>119217203
You tackled it wrongly from the get go, because the story you care so much about is mainly instrumental. What makes the series shine are the characters and the setting, with the plot serving as a vehicle to develop them. Kinda like the exact opposite of Madoka in that sense, ironically.

>mental gymnastics and conspiracy theory shenanigan
That's a very cheap way to disregard speculation, especially when the ending itself implies a continuation to the story.
>this show was very direct all throughout
This is downright false.

Someone need to retell me the reason why people keep dismissing theory and speculation
and wanting to throwing fact in their face.

All the hint is there and the probability it up to something is high.

>>119218117
Because no S2 or sequel announcement.
Dont get your hopes up anon, franchise get canned all the time.

>>119218161
But with current available evidences, we could work up the most logical conclusion.
>Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

>>119218161
It'd be stupid not to capitalize on it, and there are more ways to expand on the story than a new season. Novel, manga, OVA, all are possibilities, and the franchise is already multimedia.

And it's obvious they had no plans for a S2, they never expected it to be this successful. So even if it's coming, it'll probably take some time before an announcement.

>>119217579
Saying the characters and setting are the point is a very cheap way to disregard weak plotting. Separating out these elements in a reductionist way is fruitless anyway. I'd say the ending did all aspects of the story a disservice. The setting didn't get a proper spotlight with the revelation of the universe beyond the wall being unaddressed, the central conflict went unresolved, and characters were robbed of their most dramatic turnaround. Togo doesn't have a revelation about the fact that she nearly destroyed everything on an erroneous assumption of Shinju-sama's malevolence, her character conflict is reduced to being sad about Yuuna because of a plot development that wasn't even explained.

I don't think speculation redeems the narrative blue balls, nor does a sequel hook defer judgement to uncertain continuations. Allowing that cheapens the work, saying it's incomplete is an excuse. I'm judging it on its merits as a self-contained story because that's what it should be.

And yes the show is extremely blunt and direct. It is almost TTGL-esque in its over-the-top and hamfisted way of approaching any situation. Fights are resolved by shouting and punching, exposition is spelled out as clearly as possible, and drama absolutely beats viewers over the head. Fuu listening to Itsuki's ridiculously long-winded and specific idol contest submission demonstrates that.

>>119218299
>But with current available evidences, we could work up the most logical conclusion.
No you couldn't. There's not enough evidence to draw a single conclusion so you have people using their headcanons as justification for their own retarded theories.

>>119218406
That why I said we, one logic is flawed and if we keep wok up and fix it, we can fill it to an extent, that extent is the most logical conclusion draw from available hints.

Of course serious plotholes still remain and I dont think people will dismiss the incoherence like the change of Tougou's mind.
I dont think there is too many glaring issue though

>>119218378
>I'm judging it on its merits as a self-contained story because that's what it should be.
>that's what it should be.
Stopped reading there.
>Washio Sumi is a hero
>Yuuki Yuuna's chapter

>>119213299
>Is it because everyone conveniently get their body abilities back from Taiju-sama for a happy end
It's in big part because of that and the build up to it.

In ep8 you see Yuuna tell Togo that she'll try to find a way to counter the disabilities and yet she didn't even try to find one. She just fought like they always did and they all got their free healing from a seemingly unrelated event.

There was no struggle to find a solution, making that ending look weak on top of making Togo, Fuu and Sonoko (who had several years to tell that it wouldn't heal) amongst others look like overreacting retards. Sadly this weak ending was to be expected since they only had an episode left and there was no way they could leave Karin in that state without healing her.

>>119214257
>>119214664
Gyuuki did burst into petals before Yuuna's last mankai, see >>119214772

>>119220977
>see >>119214772(You)
Heh

Anyway, yes, but the fairies always leave a trail of petals when they vanish. And even if it was the same as with the other fairies, the circumstances were different enough to warrant suspicion.

>>119214772
>and from them onwards she was fighting using her own power.

I don't see how this is possible.

The henshins/Mankais come from Shinju. All the supernatural powers we see them posses are from Shinju. So, it doesn't make sense she can then henshin or mankai herself without Shinju.

But I have cobbled together another idea. The girls are often represented as flowers and their hero apps start off as seeds.

Maybe the Heroes are mini-shinjus.

Remember that shinju shadow we see behind Yuuna? Maybe that's her shadow. But how would the Heroes become Shinju? The best way I can say it is maybe Yuuna is Neo. Yuuna, a Hero, was injected with the prime shinju code. That's what allows them to become Heroes. Through Koujou/Willpower, Yuuna was able to take over that part of her that Shinju lends Heroes.

>>119222039
That whole idea stemmed from how ascension into godhood is possible in Shinto, so in a sense Yuuna would be in the process of becoming a god herself.

>>119222428
We need to make sense of that idea. People just don't become gods. There has to be mechanics involved. I know about the shinto myth thing, but this idea gives it more weight.

Shinju is a practical god. It gave Heroes power to fight its battles but then changed the system after Gin's death. But it didn't just make Heroes immortal for nothing. It needed something in exchange. That suggests Shinju isn't a Genie that can make something outta nothing. So there has to be some mechanism in place that orients what Shinju is doing.

>>119222606
I agree. I'm not advocating the idea that she's becoming a god, just mentioning it because it's been thrown around a lot.

The way I see it, Yuuna did something special involving KONJOU in her last mankai, and that data allowed Shinju/Taisha to develop a hero system 3.0 and that's what's Yuuna and maybe Sonoko, she's only seen fully recovered after Yuuna is fine as well is using.

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>>119224663

Looks like people is sleeping.

>>119225306
They deserve a rest.

>>119213483
>No dumbass twists
The ending asspull worst kind of twist

>>119225442
At least read the thread before shitposting.

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>>119225639
>having to read suplementary material for anime not to be shit

>>119225665
Next time make clear you've read the thread before shitposting.

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>>119225822
Its not shitposting when I'm right.

>>119218378

If you haven't noticed, this is a character-driven anime that pretended to be story-driven for a while then went back to character-driven.

>>119214664
>The fainting might be her coming back from a battle.
No, heroes always get teleported to shrines after a battle is over, no exception.

Her fainting was because she wasn't fully recovered, and more importantly to reinforce one of the core messages of that show. The stage play mirrors their real battle, and after she killed the final boss, she went into that vegetative state, on stage she faints after defeating the villian. After she fell all her friends came rushing to her to help her up, as did her friends care for her and never give up on her while she was in the vegetative state. The message is that a hero needs friends and can't do everything alone and should not shoulder everything alone. That's one of the core messages of that show and Tougou went astray because she had forgotten about it, she went off alone, in her thoughts, experiments and conclusions instead of talking to her friends about her fears. Even further, the same thing goes for Karin, in the beginning she was rather aloof and arrogant towards the others but her battle performance in the big battle was underwhelming. She only was able to go all out in ep.11 after she proclaimed that she was part of hero club and fighting for the hero club. Oh, and Fuu only went berserk because she kept her own fears about their disabilities hidden inside until they exploded, instead of talking about them. And regarding Itsuki it was about her being able to sing in front of others which she managed to achieve with the help and encouragement of the other girls.
Heroes need friends.

Asenshi is doing BD subs.
I've never seen any of their shows, are they any good?

>>119228393
Watched Jinrui, Jormungand and Wixoss from them, I don't recall having any problems with any of them. Definitely better than FFF.

>>119228393
Hope you like being a skeleton.

>>119229073
Please explain

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>>119229103
They aren't exactly known to be the fastest group out there.

>>119220977
>look like overreacting retards
That's how they were treated by the Taisha anyway.

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Literal Evangelion ripoff

>>119230030
Get in the mankai, Tougou.

>>119230030
Is this the only occasion we get a glimpse of Itsukibutt?

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>>119230030
Now lets hope for Tougou masturbating over a comatose Yuuna

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>>119230253
>so fucked up AND PROUD

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>>119230030

>>119230246

Who cares about that, look at Fuu's butt.

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My evil mastermind can't be this beautiful

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>>119230581

Sonocchi~

>>119230581
Nogi Sonoko wa rasuto bossu de aru fucking when?

>>119230581
Sonocchi is great. OVA when?

>>119230634
>Washio Sumi OVA
>cue people claiming that it's better than the original just because there's suffering all the way

>>119230956
>Written by Makoto Uezu, who finally gets his wish for a grimdark end.

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>>119230581
Holy shit that is pretty fucking neat

>>119230956
>>119231078
>Implying it will not be produced by Khara just like episode 5
>Implying it won't be directed by Anno
>Implying it won't be the evangelion of the yuusha genre

>>119230956
Good.
At least events will have lasting effect on characters.

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Takahiro should stay away from the SoL genre for life.

>>119231249

You really think the events in the anime did nothing to the characters just because their bodies are fully healed again?

>>119231292
Yes.

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>>119231287
I don't know, the SoL in YuYuYu was pretty great

>>119231342

So you ignore the emotional and psychical growth of the characters, especially of Tougou, Fuu and Karin?

>>119231287
Why? The goal was to make one treasure the slice of life all the more and it sure as hell worked.

>>119231364
What growth when they are exactly the same?

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>>119231474
>The characters are exactly the same
I was not even part of this discussion but you just jumped the shark here, if you can't see how much Itsuki, Fuu and Karin changed you haven't really seen the show.

>>119231474
Only they are not?

>>119231364
I think you should leave him be.

>It's not like people experience extreme tragic tragedy every year.

>>119231552
>>119231542
Yes, they are the same.

>>119230581
Seeing this awesomeness reminds me how truly disappointed I am we haven't seen this in anime.

>>119231446
I don't think all the suffering would've had as much impact if we didn't have all that cute SoL stuff to make us like the girls

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>>119231542
Would Akira dare to show her "sad" scar to Sonoko? Or any Yuusha for the matter?

>>119231671
Of course she would, and should she meet Sonoko she would probably call her out for being a lazy crippled bitch who spends the whole day being venerated

>>119231671

Who's that?

>>119231747
Girl of the year

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>>119231776

Talk about helpful answers.

>>119231747
A nice girl who got stuck in a horrible show, surrounded by a cast of horrible characters which made her go insane.

>>119231747
Fortunate Aika

>>119231658

It's the other way round, the sad parts make you cherish the happy slice-of-life more. In the first episodes, everyone just viewed those segments as a typical if well-made SoL, but after putting that under threat in the finale, just seeing them able to return to exactly that same kind of slice-of-life happiness that we initially just took for granted was enough to bring tears to my eyes.

>>119231841
Since when is she a nice girl?

>>119231747
Ika-fortuitous

>>119231747
Someone who deserves to sange 40 times and never get healed. I'm still disappointed she didn't die horribly.

>>119214257

Best I understood was that the girls were (like Buddhist food offerings) offerings, not (traditional) human sacrifices. Thus what was offered was able to be returned at some point in time. What we don't know was when or why it was returned. Did they become too much of a threat/liability towards the end or what it them all going log mode that the tree god decided 'they are useless, I need new ones'.

That doesn't excuse the fact that most of the drama was then perpetuated by taisha being cold distant idiots making it be about two misunderstandings in terms of them not communicating well to the girls (making them suspicious) and interpreting the gods use of their bodies wrong.

I could be wrong, haven't read any threads about the game.

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>>119231947
>hating Aki-Lovely
I'm still disappointed she didn't get a proper resolution.

I'm at episode 4 and when does this get better than madoka?

>>119231978
No, Taisha was lying to them. They were never supposed to heal, but then Yuuna did something weird and Shinju seems to have absorbed which is probably what allowed it to heal them and relieve from being Yuushas.

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>>119232012
When you get some taste.

>>119232012
>Madoka
This is nothing like Madoka, except for it being mahou shoujo.

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>>119232012
You mean when the edgy grimdark starts?
Never, you're wasting your time.

>>119232026
>No, Taisha was lying to them. They were never supposed to heal

remember that taisha gave the following statements:

>There is nothing PHYSIOLOGICALLY wrong with the Heroes bodies
>We EXPECT that the problems will be gone over time

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>>119232012
>Comparing all Mahou Shoujos to Madoka
Watch more shit newfag

>>119232088
Read the bonus chapter, it's outright stated that Taisha were lying and that made best girl angry.

>>119232088
>>We EXPECT that the problems will be gone over time
Not something you can say with a straight face when you have a mummy log bedridden for two years and counting.

>>119232137
That's why the doctors and nurses were smiling.

>>119232063
>>119232064
So /a/ lied to me as always?
I'm glad, from what faggots were saying I thought this is going to be a tryhard Madoka clone hipsters were saying is better to look cool and non-mainstream. Now I can gladly stop trolling and watch the rest in peace.

>>119232026

That's my point about it being suspicious. We have no way to prove in either direction that they did or didn't know about getting their limbs back. They very well could have know from tree god that the girls would be fine in X years after they're no longer a suitable sacrifice. Bascially everything worked out as planned, the faeries gave them virtual immortality to fight.

>>119232109
Wasnt she angry because they want she to intefere with the group decision? I need to recheck it.

>>119232137
Still not lying per say.

>>119232109

The bonus chapter is told from Sonoko's perspective and Sonoko's knowledge.
Don't forget, no hero before those six has ever been released from duty by the Shinju-sama, so it has never happend before that a hero got their body functions back. This was a first and Taisha probably didn't really know if or when something like that would happen since it's up to the Shinju to decide. Given that the messages from Shinju are symbolic and are interpreted by Mikos there's probably a distortion and not much clarity in them. Maybe Shinju did somehow tell them that it would get better but they didn't know when and how.

>>119232109
you mind quoting the part where it outright stated that taisha lied? remember that most of what sonoko found out was through conjecture. sure, she may be bright and very insightful, but one can't go on without much data.

>>119232137
>Not something you can say with a straight face when you have a mummy log bedridden for two years and counting.

taisha doesn't have much data either, but it would be too early to give up given that they did not have enough information at that time

>>119232195
>Maybe Shinju did somehow tell them that it would get better
If it did, that would've been a nice and reassuring information to share with the girls. I'm more inclined to believed they're totally in the dark about this.

>>119232195
>Maybe Shinju did somehow tell them that it would get better but they didn't know when and how.

A miko announced she saw vivid images of yuyuyu daily life and smile face scenes which let everyone welcome the defeat of the vertices with happy smile face.

>>119232222
Not sure if you're just playing devil's advocate or what, but lying by omission still counts as being dishonest.

>>119232222
Well Taisha did say they are investigating. It could be that they are trying to solve it.

They did say Mankai need fine tuning at WaSuYu and add sealing so 'killing' vertex should be possible and lessen Mankai usage.

I bet they never expected Vertexes would attack in full force forcing the girls to go Mankai.

>>119232224
>I'm more inclined to believed they're totally in the dark about this.

they probably were, seeing as only a select few could contact the shinju and that most of the communication was just Oracles

>>119232258
Indeed Interpretation could always go wrong.

We need a Taisha OVA too.

>>119232249

Source?

>>119232252
>Nobody did nothing wrong but we're all in Hell anyway for some reason: The Anime

>>119232296
They better show the udon incident through a flashback.

>>119232315
Taisha

>>119232251

just to note, back during the airing i hated taisha, but then i realized that they themselves were in the dark and trying their best to improve the system.

it's similar to many dilemmas we have today: people don't trust authorities too much but if authorities tell everything the people will panic. a more parallel scenario would be war recruitment

sure taisha was dishonest, but 1) the Hero System is still in its infancy and 2) being fully honest with the girls will make no one join the program, endangering humanity at full

>>119232318
>Nobody did nothing wrong

the Christians would like to have a word with you... the last era was Anno Domini. Which means that the Christian Apocalypse MUST have happened/is happening since humanity is being destroyed lake of fire references make it more compelling to believe...

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>>119232161

>>119232343

I mean, where is it from? LN? Game? Some other source?

>>119232222
>you mind quoting the part

Here you go, just to feed your autism.
>It was their price for hiding the truth from the girls.
>The Taisha's people kept requesting Sonoko earnestly.
>However, Sonoko never transformed.

>>119213299
Boring and unmemorable ending with a cock tease

>>119232406
ohoho, seems i didn't catch that

this was sonoko's perspective. all her explanations connect but this had no input whatsoever from taisha.

>>119232406
>It was their price for hiding the truth from the girls.

Again, this is written from Sonoko's perspective and "truth" might refer to what they think of as the truth, not the actual truth.

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>>119232318
The girls agree Anon.

Remember the time we thought the tree would be evil?

>>119232455
"Nobody" here means "Tougou"

>>119232406
When does hiding is equal as lying?

>>119232455

I wonder if Yuuna was in a locked-in state and perceived everything around her or if she really was in a vegetative state with her consciousness somewhere else.

Taisha made mistakes but they were doing their best.

>>119232455
That scene had such a heavy atmosphere. They were basically saying "We all know you fucked up, Tougou, but we understand your reasons, it's in the past now and nothing good will come out of brooding over it."

>>119232483
It also included Taisha and Shinju. Didn't it?

But yeah the words were meant for Tougou.

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>>119232501
If the former, Tougou might be in for some punishment later.

>>119232501
Well, Yuuna does say something along the lines of almost accepting that she would never come back, so I personally think she was aware of the world around her. Hence her reply to Tougou, she heard her talking to her and WILLPOWERED back out of being a log.

>>119232454
Well at the very least they did bullshit about that whole "virus pandemic outside the barrier" thing. Unless "virus pandemic" and "EVERYTHING IS FIRE" are the same word in japanese.

>>119232555

Saying "there's a virus ravaging the outside world" is a bit better to stomach for the population than saying "god wants everyone dead".

>>119232518
tougou basically went insane temporary and needed to be punched by her waifu to bring her back

>>119232555
The Stardust are virus.

Forced daijoubu.

Artificial Healing

Muh SUFFERING

>>119232672
>>119232699
forced healing

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>>119231474
>What growth

You know what.

>>119232672
>>119232699
>>119232741
What a non-patriotic thread.

Has there been any progress on the VN translation? It's been a while considering the length of each route.

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>>119232672
>>119232699
>>119232741

Forced posting.

>>119232672
>>119232699
>>119232741
I wanted a suffering ending too but I'm happy with what we got. Nips didn't do too bad on this one

>>119232948
I'm so used to shit endings, this was basically good by nips standard

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MAL weekly score progression, does this also reflect here?

>>119233553
>MAL
And this shit happens to any show once it ends thanks to weighted votes

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>>119233553
>The kind of people you are sharing this big blue ball with

>>119232105
Fate pls marry me!

>>119233553
>Rating a show before it's even over

>>119233743
Go to bed Nanoha, you are already married

>>119233719
>>119233553
What the fuck?
This shit doesn't deserve even 5.

>>119233553
Keep in mind that people who hate slice of life would drop and rate midway.

Most people who got to the end would rate the whole show.

So don't take this as a per episode rating.

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>asshrut grimderp fags

>>119233553
>>119233854
I can see all the retards dropping it after no one dies in ep 5 and all the sjw dropping it after beach episode.

>>119233854
>Keep in mind that people who hate slice of life
Non Non Biyori
Slice of Life
8.08 (scored by 23539 users)

Okay....

>>119233976
>all the sjw dropping it after beach episode.
You mean after they pointed out that being disabled is a bad thing. Those "reviews" were hilarious.

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>>119233998
nyanpasu

>>119234007
>Ablaism
People who have nothing better to do than coming up with new words to throw around should be sentenced to proper community service.

>>119233998
NNB never had mahou shoujo aspect to it, different audience.

>>119234007
post em

>>119233998
Not that anon, but I think you misunderstood. It's not that everyone dislike SoL, it's more about people that dislike SoL would drop YuYuYu during its peak of SoL episodes.

Of course NNB would get a high score, since the ones watching it would have expected full SoL from start to finish.

>>119233998
I never said that people who hate slice of life are relevant.

The relevance of people who drop a show is just higher, when a series is not yet finished, compared to when it's finished. Because they would be more likely to rate halfway, when they drop the show.

A lot of other people would rate when they watched all of it, instead.

>>119233553
>>119233998
What am I supposed to infer from this?
I dont go to MAL but is there a huge difference from 7.55 to 8.08? They look like they are almost equally rank.

>>119234229
That shows that are straightforward about their content from the start are more likely to end with high scores due to less people dropping it and giving it low scores halfway through.

>>119234229
NNB is ranked #416
YuYuYu is ranked #1255

A score of 8 or more will land you into the top 500.
So there is quite the difference between a 8+ rated show and a sub 8 rated show.

>arguing about ratings
I have no words.

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>>119232161
>tryhard Madoka clone

>SCHOOL
>SLICE OF LIFE

>Retard ranking is always retard
Why people concern with ranking?

>>119234487
Yes.
And Urobuchi writes healing stories.

Even the memes and jokes are ripped off of Madoka.

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>>119234487
What about the Vertex, huh?

>>119222606
Shinju is literally fossilized. Shinju originally was not even a single entity, he his all of the Shinto gods of the Earth and its beings combined into one entity to make a lifeboat for the remainder of humanity. He cannot return back to his constituent gods without breaking apart the bubble and killing what is left of humanity.
That means he cannot go on the offensive against the gods of heaven and also cannot feed himself energy.
Yuuna as a new god is capable of movement, of fighting and beating the vertexes and stardust. She can carry the fight to the gods outside and also go out and bring back resources that Shinju needs to maintain or even grow his power.

>>119232375
> sure taisha was dishonest, but 1) the Hero System is still in its infancy and 2) being fully honest with the girls will make no one join the program, endangering humanity at full

Not telling them beforehand that Mankai fucks them over is one thing, but leaving them in the dark after the Sange was a terrible idea, as Fuu and Tougou going apeshit has shown.

>>119233553
And we claim Japan has shit taste

>>119234611
Look like those cute mascots that they ripoff from Aria.

>>119232375
>Christian apocalypse

That would make Shinju the devil, right?
Now the only question remaining is, which Yuusha is Whore of Babylon

>>119234876
> which Yuusha is Whore of Babylon

Yuuna, obviously. She has a harem and is a master of the orgasm massage.

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>>119234876
Say that to her face

>>119232026
Taisha was lying to them because Taisha was afraid to let the girls know that the way to get better was to cease being Heros.
They were to afraid to go without Hero's ready to stop vertex incursions, didn't understand that Shinju's energy crisis could be rectified by killing vertexes in his presence so he could absorb their energy,
They were to afraid to try anything that would have fed Shinjuu faster, like risking a big battle against a large number of vertexes and stardust at once, or by having Shinjuu withdraw the fairies and have the girls fight with just hero suits and the sealing spell, which could of allowed them to use more or even all of the hundred odd hero candidates at the same time instead of only six, but some of the girls would have certainly been killed or crippled for life instead of just temporarily.

>>119234876
I don't get the analogies because I'm an ignorant heathen. Anyone care to spoil the end of the holy bible for me?

>>119235128

Jesus dies.

>>119235154
>killing off the MC
What a cheap twist.

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>>119235135
>magical boys

>>119235128
jesus comes back and new jerusalem is established. all remaining sinners are cast in the lake of fire. creation is turned to fire by "stars falling from the heavens"

>>119235135
I wonder how many people here will give mahou shounen a chance. I wonder who is worst company, /u/ or /y/.

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From the studio which gave us eotenas

>>119235135
I'm thinking of giving this a chance, it will either be funny despite being fujobait or its going to be really shitty.

>>119235208
Holy hell.
This is shit is really turning into christian vs shinto?
Would shit like this be allowed?

>>119235135
That one worries me because it really looks like it just took a really cliche premise and genderswapped it. Ha ha magical girls with dicks isn't going to carry a whole show.

>>119234876
But why would the christian apocalypse happen in a world of shinto? Was the Vertex vs Shinju actually just a really over the top religion debate?

>>119235208
Wouldn't that make Shinju-sama Christ resurrected?

>>119235223
But Rolling Girls look nice.

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>>119235208
>YuYuYu's season 2 finally is Yuuna punching jesus in the face

>>119235259
True, but I remember having a similar concern regarding Nichibros and that turned out much better than expected.

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>comedy
>mental illnesses

>>119235262
>Wouldn't that make Shinju-sama Christ resurrected?

no. it would imply that the Shinju are protecting the rest of the sinners from being burnt into a crisp.

>>119235288
I'd pay for that, not even kidding.

>>119235328
>yuusha-bu
>sinners
I don't buy it.

>>119235128
The world end, people who have a good deeds went to paradise, meanwhile others went to 7th hell

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>>119235328
>implying yuushas can sin
Itsuki is the antonym of sin

>>119235223

Looking forward to that a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9QDzWV2P14

>>119235395
>Lucifer was right all along
What a tweest.

I just realized this world is a tree protecting people from fire. Bizarro Smokey Bear.

>>119235223
I'll be watching that.

>>119232163
No it didn't work out as planned. Shinju needed to raise his power level so he could make the barrier impervious to Vertexs like it already was to Stardust. Fighting the vertexes only when they chose to come in, was not killing enough of them fast enough to change the issue, while it was running down the girls mentally and physically. The Taisha thought they were being kind in not telling the girls the whole truth because they could not imagine a situation where it would ever be safe to let the girls off duty, as they were too afraid to let a truly effective number of not just vertexes but stardust as well in as it would result in a battle they had no guarantee of winning with only six Hero's- a limit incidentally they had brought on themselves by praying to Shinju for Hero's not to die anymore. The fairies are all actually minor Shinto kami. All the kami who still loved humans had combined to make Shinju, releasing the minor kami to be the Hero's personal bodyguards was actually breaking a piece off of Shinjuu- and therefore a piece of the vessel keeping all the humans alive, and making Shinjuu weaker.

>>119235425
>>119235223
Looks fun. For some reason, even though there appears to be no staff overlap, it reminds me of YZQ in a good way.

So when's Houkago no Pleiades coming out? There is no decent upcoming magical girls this season or next season from the looks of it.

>>119235370
Pretty sure homosexuality is a sin in christianity.

>>119235559
Supposedly spring.

>>119235559
For winter, take your pick from
Bearsluts
Boatsluts
Dogsluts

Leftover from last season
Exodus
Cross Ange where you can just treat Ange as Fate and Hilda as Nanoha with Yui Horie and Eri as extras.

>>119235562
Well, shit. Shinju confirmed for guardian of the yuri realm in the face of moralfaggotry-induced divine fury.

>>119235135
Magical boys for the sake of fujoshi's?

>>119235622
>Bearsluts 
>Boatsluts ☑
>Dogsluts ☑
Boys's being magical girls never goes well.

>>119235712
That's certainly a target audience, but the PV makes it seem like it might also be funny.

>>119234660
They were gambling that the girls would kill enough vertexes to feed Shinju that the power problem would be fixed before then.
Problem is they were not.
It took the combination of Togo's suicide attempt letting in a truly enormous number of not just vertexes but also stardust who normally cannot get through the barrier, and Yuna turning out to be a god and being able to defeat the Super-Leo that was created through her willpower alone.

>>119234703
The whole thing is a ripoff of Aria! It even tries to hide it by making our usually blue ball one of fire when the usually red ball is one of water in Aria!

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>>119213299
do's anybody have the itsuki everything is FIRE reaction image?

>>119236048
>YuYuYu was actually a prequel to Aria, Akari is Yuuna and Tougou's lovechild

>>119236150
I wonder if HanaKana would use her Iris Heart voice for this scene.

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>>119236133

>>119236187
thanks anon!

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>>119236133

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>>119236133
and another

>>119236150
Sonoko's color really is purple?
So she is actually Togo mixed with Karin?

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>>119236306
yeah is the yuusha purple fusion of karin and togo

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>>119214772
Dem legs though.

>>119236171
Nah.

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>>119236306
She's always been purple.

>>119236133
Why is Fuu's choker shopped into Karin?

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>>119236306
Sonoko's purple, yeah.

>>119236486
Because more girls should wear chokers, some kind anon is spreading the love.

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>>119236237
This was honestly one of the happiest coincidences between fandom meme and canon development that I've ever seen.

I know somebody mentioned this a few threads back, how Yuuna is the one who's flower is a flowering tree and not a flowering plant.

Plants, when they flower, they wilt and die. Tress, when they flower, they are still alive and will continue to flower and sange until they reach the end of their lifespan.

>>119235839
Even if it is, some people will never get over the fact that fujoshi's are part of the target audience.

>>119236654
Even some brave anons that will swallow their pride and give the show a chance will probably drop it at the first group bath scene.

>>119234669
We also claim MAL has she taste. In fact I'm still trying to understand why people waste their time discussing MAL scores here. It's embarrassing to say the least.

>>119236482
>>119236511
Color coding is a means of telling a characters personality in both sentai and magical girl shows.
Being purple means she combines both Togo's analytical abilities and Karin's physical abilities and determination.
That would in turn mean that Orange- Gin- combines Karin's physical attributes with Fuu's love of family and care and compassion for others.
Pink however is red and white. Red means she has similarities to both Karin and Gin, but what the heck is White? Does white stand for divinity?

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It's like I'm really in a madoka thread

>>119236236
Was there a new year version with kadomatsu etc?

>>119236775

Pink means you're the main character.

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>>119236619
I don't know what that anon's purpose is.
But I like it.

>>119236646
http://www.gardentaining.com/PSC2620/plant_images/prunus_serrulata.html
>Prunus serrulata - Japanese Flowering Cherry
> It has a comparatively short lifespan for a tree
fuck

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>>119236646
Trees eventually die too. But they do live a lot longer the most flowers and bloom every year.
Dead trees also take a long time to collapse and can remain standing for years while supporting all kinds of life in their standing hulk. Saprophyte plants, birds, insects, small mammals all use dead trees as a home.
Shinjuu is the dying or even dead tree, Yuna is the new young flowering tree that will supplant Shinju.

>>119236834
Except in Sentai costume shows where it means you are the token girl.

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>>119236948

It's not dying, what we normally see are just the roots, it's upside down.

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IIRC some anon said Aiura 07 has a boy whose VA is Gin's. Is this the right one?

>>119236985
Yes, but in mahou shoujo pink is the new red. Thought red still retains most red characteristics and pink becomes about understanding and befriending instead.

>>119237004
That's not how roots work.

>>119237004
Makes sense, especially considering all the leaves in Jukai.

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>>119236236
>>119236237
>>119236629
Thanks for providing me with Itsuki FIRE images.

Also something I kinda wondered about is that from episode 12 it's shown that you can mankai through sheer will like Yuuna without any help from Shinju, with the adverse effect being comatose or worse. Since in the prequel Gin faced off against 3 vertex and pushed them back do you think she did the same thing and mankai'd by pure will before dying as consequence?

>>119237039

Looks even less like branches.

>>119237068
It would actually make sense. She mankaid and that gave the data for the updated Yuusha system, allowing other, less WILLPOWERed girls to go mankai. I like it a lot actually.

>>119237034
>sentai style yuyuyu
>Karin-chan is MC
>Yuuna is the token girl
Would there be a love triangle between red, blue and pink?

>>119235223
Rolling Girls takes place in some sort of future Sengoku period?

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>>119237039

>>119237072
There are actual trees that look like the Shinju-sama.

>>119237068
>>119237095

from what i remember, WaSuYu did not implement Mankai until Gin's sacrifice. The Taisha were hoping to deploy it before that battle, but they were too late

>>119237163

In Japan?
And isn't it a cherry blossom tree given the pink petals that are all over the place?

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>>119237068
>>119237095
I approve of this line of thinking.

>>119237176
>The Taisha were hoping to deploy it before that battle, but they were too late
That's regarding the battle at Gin's funeral. There was no mention of an upgrade before Gin's death. Sure, the fairies were seemingly developed to avoid more deaths in the battlefield, but it could very well be that it was only possible thanks to data that Gin provided during her last fight. And if accessing Mankai power through sheer KONJOU is possible, it would make sense for Gin to have unlocked that at her most desperate time.

Shinju a shit.

Togo was right. Or perhaps, not wrong.

>>119237176
Gin's death was they cause of the implementation of mankai and fairies. The Taisha were so affected by her death that they prayed to Shinju for no more hero's to die.
What they got was the Sange mindfuck and a drastically reduced number of girls they could field at once.
The desire to not have the girls die almost killed the entire human race.
Gin, Sonoko, and Sumi's original equipment was probably based on what the girls who fought in 2018 had had to use. When Shinju almost ran out of defenders according to the leak.

>>119237098
Fuu would be fat and constantly eat curry.

>>119213299
The ending consists of punching things and LOL, WILLPOWER overriding the whole system and hardships that have been built up to that to that point.

suffering how it should be:
>look at everything we had to go through to wrest a glimmer of hope from this cruel universe
suffering how it was executed:
>please empathize with the characters so you can cheer for the good end that we pull out of our ass


It's just too much of a disconnect between what happend in the earlier episodes and the resolution.

I cannot find anything wrong with what Shinju did. Most blame lies with Taisha. And they were not evil, but rather terrified people with inflated egos who thought their feelings and opinions mattered.

>>119237481
Only because you refuse to acknowledge that the story is based on Shinto beliefs and what happened was the result of a girl becoming first a hero and than a god through overcoming challenges.

>>119237291

If Mankai-ing brings you closer to Shinju-sama, as Sonoko implies, then does dying of Mankai mean you've become part of it? If so, then Gin's sacrifice could have lead to their creation even more directly.

What if Shinju-sama isn't a real god at all, just the coagulated KONJOU of the 2015-2023 human heroes that sacrificed themselves?

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>>119236775
>戦隊モノでいえばレッドですね

Takahiro says Yuuna is just red here.

>>119237526
Then why does god need a star- a hospital?

>>119237581
Well, she is more hotblooded and more inclined for action than for understanding than most lead mahou shoujo. Maybe that's why they went with the red hair in her normal state instead of pink.

>>119237481
>>119237481
It's not a show about suffering in the first place. Your attention and expectations were misplaced. Also the ending wasn't an asspull at all, it's just not too obvious about what really happened (and to some degree simply omissive, but strongly hinting that something did happened that wasn't explained yet). Understanding it requires people to be more familiar with the franchise and the setting than a TV show usually does. Not going to say that's not a fault of the show, but I prefer it this way, and it certainly worked market-wise.

writers enjoy pulling death flags everywhere and then ended up screwing with us when nothing bad happens. it was one entire trololo project down to the very last fainting

>>119237539
The Taisha lady in the LN says that Gin was "embraced" by Shinju-sama when she died, and the sealing ritual chant calls Shinju-sama lord of the other world.

>>119237539
>What if Shinju-sama isn't a real god at all, just the coagulated KONJOU of the 2015-2023 human heroes that sacrificed themselves?
There's a causality issue there. The heroes were only heroes in the first place because they were granted Shinju's power.

>>119237590
For the moment she still has a body.
Which she may or may not have been in during her vegetative state.
She will eventually lose it, bringing up a nice contrast as she continues to become more of a god in parallel with her friends growing up into adult hood and eventually reaching the implied but undefined age limit for being Hero.

Although, the same evidence would also fit another anons suggestion that all the girls are going to become gods, as a means of Shinju re-seeding the planet.
After all, no one witnessed Karin's mankai and she should have had a empty gauge, she wasn't even in her suit when we last saw her.

>>119237747

>The heroes were only heroes in the first place because they were granted Shinju's power.

That's the official story, but it's also the official story that you need Shinju-sama's help to Mankai, too.

>>119237741
The common trait among all people who disliked it is that they think it was bad because they didn't die or didn't have enough suffering. Stop being such an edgy faggot. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you didn't just jump into the wagon when you heard that there was suffering going on.

>>119237747
I want Gin to be reincarnated as one of the other girls daughter.
I just cant decide if it should be a virgin birth by Togo induced by Shinju or a natural result of Karin aging out of being a hero, marrying a nice guy, and having a daughter naturally who just happens to be able to use her old terminal unusually well starting from age 11.

>>119237920
Its a coping mechanism, rooted in an inability to handle strong emotion in a adult manner.

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I took this screen from http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25172063
Does anyone have the original image?

>>119237756
>After all, no one witnessed Karin's mankai and she should have had a empty gauge, she wasn't even in her suit when we last saw her.

Karin mankai'd rapidly in her battle too, she didn't do like 5 heroic actions between each mankai, she just went straight from one to the next. Also given that when transformed the hero form grants her her otherwise lost senses she would of course transform again as fast as she can after losing hearing and sight.

>>119237920
haha what? heck I enjoyed it for screwing around with us

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>>119237982

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>>119237982
I don't.

Now I do. Learn to google.

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>>119237982

>>119238072
>google
Evil and to be shunned.

>>119237581
A show with two reds in it? Is that possible? Or was Karin supposed to be Orange like Gin and they screwed up the pallet through QUALITY, like how they made it look like Sonoko had actually lost her limbs rather than just the use of them.

>>119237924
>having a daughter naturally who just happens to be able to use her old terminal unusually well starting from age 11.

You monster.

>>119238136
Don't save that pic then. It comes with botnets.

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Does Sonoko have children? Because she sure looks like a mummy.

>>119228082
Is that mean we will never be heroes?
Even if we turned into a little girl?

>>119238239
CARLOOOOOOOOS

Here is the problem though with applying magical girl color theory to YuYuYu.
Itsuki is green, so she should have traits in common with both Fuu and Togo. Well the common ground with Fuu can be seen readily enough, but in what way is Itsuki even remotely like Togo?

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What do the checkboxes do?

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>>119238239

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The "Yuuna is still fighting" theory is not HEALING enough.
>>119238440
You don't have to install it, man. Just run the game-exe with the weird Chinese thing.

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>>119238440
>not knowing kana

>>119238440
In order:
>desktop shortcut
>start menu shortcut
>save files in documents folder (top) or game folder (bottom)
But also >>119238476. Installing it is a waste of time. You'll still need to use the crack anyways.

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>>119238072
I'm torn between Yuna and Itsuki, they're both cute.

>>119238594
>Those hands will never hold you in a tight, loving embrace
;_;

Kinmoza ripoff

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>>119238476
>>119238549
Doesn't work.
I'm probably missing something.
I'll try again next time I boot to windows, working in a VM is too annoying.

>>119238645

>Those hands will never beat you everyday

Why live?

>>119238594
All Yuusha are great and adorable in their own way. I have to favor Yuna because of the copious amounts of Hot Blood she brings to the table. Also her Yuusha outfit is the best of all of them.

>>119238675
insert the original disk, doh. Or drop the exe in that thing that fixes it that somebody will hopefully link for you again.

>>119239021
Actually check in the comments of the torrent where you probably got it.

>>119238438
They both have the highest girl power of the whole bunch.

Fuck. I just checked the tracking and noticed that the new year's holidays have frozen the shipping of my package that has the BD1, OST and the magazine that has the Tougou pillow with it. I hope that the package with the Washio novel, manga and the Yuusha-bu chibi manga has at least arrived when I finally get back home after being away for over week.

>>119239190
Same happened with mine. They have stopped since the 29th, fuck.

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>>119239190
>Tougou pillow

It's just a shitty cover, the real deal comes out in march.

>>119239533
But this one has her in her yuusha clothes.

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>>119239533
I'd a Karin daki.
Preferably with her hair down.

>>119239630
I wonder what must it feel like to hug Karin before going to sleep, while she goes: "F-fine, if you are that scared from the dark I guess you can hold on to me."

>>119239696
Pillows can't talk.

>>119239751
That's why I said Karin and not Karin dakimakura

>>119240224
But Karin isn't real, so the pillow goes without saying.

>>119237590
Shinto gods aren't omnipotent, Kirk.

>>119238072
How the fuck is she even sitting on the rail like that without falling over?

>>119240409
KONJOU

>>119240409
Lesbian physics.

>>119240409
shlicking arm

>>119238072
What is wrong with Gyuki's face.

>>119240409
Suction force.

>>119240409
Alpha waves

>>119240409
女子力

>>119240409
Because she is a hero.

>>119239190
>that has the Tougou pillow
isn't that one-sided anyway?

>>119239630
An empty-eyed one would be great. I always wanted a living toy.