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Are you really gonna make me go through this for a third time?

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Are you really gonna make me go through this for a third time?
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>>119000157
Y-you're strong, Berserker.
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>>119000157
I'm not planning on finishing UBW but I may watch this scene to relive the feels and mourn for best girl.
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the strongest servant, he even breaks dimensions
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>>119000199
>strong.
>loses to the king of jobbers.
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>>119000624
He lost because he was using his body to shield illya from gil's attacks.
Otherwise gil would have been smashed into fine red paste.
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>>119000686
>He lost because he was using his body to shield illya from gil's attacks.
So? That's his fault for not forcing Ilya to stay in a safe spot. A war involves both a master and servant.
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>>119000686
No he lost because Gil's plot armor was stronger and was able to just chain him.

welcome to fate
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>>119000157
2nd time didn't count because Deen's movie didn't have Gil cut out her eyes.

>>119000725
A servant without his sanity can't really be expected to offer such advice.
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>>119000907
Ufotable won't cut her eyes out either
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So I wanna get into the Nasuverse, but I'm not sure where to start, where would be the best place to do so?
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>>119000978
>Ufo not taking the ballsy route

I don't know about that anon...
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>>119001110
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>>119001110
tsukihime
more lore is stuffed into 1 chapter/episode of tsukihime than all of fate/stay put together,
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>>119000157
I don't think I can prep myself for this again, especially after watching two seasons of prism illya. She's grown on me. Shits gonna hurt.
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>>119000157
「…」
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>>119000725
>That's his fault for not forcing Ilya to stay in a safe spot
>Berserker class
This better be a joke
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>>119001150
Thanks
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>>119001179
Disregarding the overstatement
>episode of tsukihime
That doesn't exist
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>>119001190
I was a tsukihime fan, when I found out that shiki and his friends were getting another anime I was ecstatic, I watched carnival fantasm and there she was. Love at first sight. I watched the first anime and the way she appeared, how she wrecked everyone's ish, it was amazing, how she established herself as his sister and joked the rest of the series away, I was happy. Then I watched that movie....
2 seasons of prism illya fate/zero and 90+ chapters of fate manga still havent erased that damnable event from my mind.
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>>119000157
Brace yourself. But we'll get through it together, and then there's HF True to handle ;_;.
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>>119000157
Don't worry, they're going to pointlessly change the scene like usual and it won't be the same as the last 2 times. Maybe they'll change the location to a swamp or maybe make Ilya say "you're cool Berserker" instead.
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>>119001464
>fuzzy feelings better than gil surgery.
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>>119001464
>ufo's HF
>they pull superhero end instead
/a/ would collectively shit itself, the suffering never ends.
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>>119001610
>This is actually the most fitting end of all and deserved to be it's own route
>mfw I'll never watch the light slowly fade from Shirou's eyes as he manipulates everyone into killing each other before eventually dying himself.
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If you don't think Illya is the cutest girl ever you need to kill yourself.
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>>119001610
>people were worried they won't be able to fit HF into one movie
>ufo goes Mind of Steel route
>movie is significantly shorter than expected
>ends soon after with Rider killing Shirou when he goes to the church to kill Sakura
>movies had good pacing, events aren't skipped, best ending
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>>119001610
They should combine SLH with super hero end. Best thing ever.
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>>119001770
Her cuteness is a miracle of the universe. Ilya is so cute that Ilya herself cannot resist Ilya's cuteness, so Ilya becomes part of Ilya's harem.
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>>119000157
Where are the poor A rank teeth dead wolfs?
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This is very urgent. Does anyone have the full nude version of this?
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>>119001179
Tsukihime is such a piece of shit VN that looks like it's drawn by some DeviantArt faggot and then uploaded to Newgrounds
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>>119002017
Miyu is cuter.
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>>119001930
>>119001869
>>119001763
I actually tossed that out on a total whim but holy shit, as I think about it more ufo going Superhero/SLH for HF would actually be pretty mind blowing and could even work. SH could be cheaper to make also, and would allow for a pretty different take on everything to be animated.
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>>119002096
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>>119002096
I want to murder anyone who sexualizes Illya.
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>>119001610
Why would they cut out all the best parts of the route? Dumb.
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>>119000280
>mfw no feet.jpg
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>>119000280
I like that picture better. Is it just me or does Ufotable's Berserker look much less menacing?
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>>119001770
>mfw if the Einzberns hadn't corrupted the grail Kerry would have succeeded
>mfw we'll never get to see the Emiya family happily plodding along in their day to day life in Fuyuki city
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>>119000371
Adorable.
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>>119002291
She doesn't need help in that department, she is written lewd to begin with. All this and I haven't even seen Prism, so I imagine she is even a lewder loli in that.
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>>119002340
Have some suffering.
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>>119002340
Iri would still be dead
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>>119002338
He certainly sounded more menacing in the novel.
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>>119002281
Based

>>119002291
Good luck
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>>119002419
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>>119002463
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>>119002340
The wish is stupid to begin with, corrupted grail or not.
Even Rin and Shirou, 2 kids, take the piss out of the "world peace, no more evil meanies" idea at one point in the VN as should anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
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>>119002422
>Iri would still be dead
He could bring her back even with the lesser grail were it to actually not be corrupted.
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>>119000157
Why is Kuzuki a Caster's Master when he wasn't chosen by the Grail to be one?

He isn't even a magus.
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Is this Iri or grown up Illya?
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>>119002709
Read the VN
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>>119002719
Iri is way more stacked
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>>119002513
Probably, since the Grail likely isn't even that powerful. Still, consider the NGNL route played straight and without any overall agenda, nor with any magic races: nobody is allowed to murder/injure anybody else anymore, all conflict has to be resolved through games. People can still argue and be mean, and clever people will still be able to inflict suffering, but overall it's possible to imagine there being "world peace", at least to a major extent. That doesn't mean everyone is happy, but no more war or weapons use would be a pretty significant step.

Such a world wouldn't necessarily need to look much different from the First World right now if you think about it. The fact is that there hasn't been a real war fought within US/Canada borders in living memory, West Europe has been pretty stable too. Everyone spends lots on weapons but they're mainly used externally. If it was actually impossible per "magic" for anyone to physically attack the West so military spending went away it'd be some change but I wonder if it'd even affect much in our regular lives. Beyond less taxes I guess.
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>>119002709
Read the visual novel, or wait for it to rain swords. Up to you.
Her original master used all his command steals to make her do lewd stuff so she killed him, and Kuzuki found her near death. They fucked a lot.
"He was rough like asura, but gentle like buddha."
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>>119002719
>tfw we will never get nee-san Illya lusting after little brother.
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>>119002827
>command steals to make her do lewd stuff so
Where did you hear this?
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>>119001190
Castilya the lewdest, Lilya the purest, Assasilya the cutest
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>>119002827
Small Japanese dick couldn't possibly pleasure a losse slut Greek woman. I get that Kuzuki gives his mana to Caster but the fact that he's a "Master" would mean that any Servant could just contract with outsiders for mana if they hate their original Masters.
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>>119002762
World Peace doesn't mean no wars. There's technically not many 'wars' going on in the world right now, but there's tons of suffering everywhere in all forms because people are assholes.

Even in the first world you have terrorism and civil unrest happening all the time, most snubbed by agencies like the CIA and HUMINT.

World peace is stupid because it simply cannot be achieved with human nature.
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>>119002962
>any Servant could just contract with outsiders for mana if they hate their original Masters.
Mages are preferable because they can actually give you mana consistently though. Without that you have to resort to eating people like Rider and Caster do.
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>>119002943
It was heavily implied when Caster was having her flashback. Something about how disgusting her original master was.
>>119002962
How do you think Shirou provides mana for Saber despite being a regular human prior to training? Gathering mana from people in the town not only suggests that regular people have mana in them, but that it's also helping to sustain her and make her stronger.

Do you not pay attention to anything you watch or read? Fuck it, I'm done answering you. I can only answer so many stupid questions before I get fed up.
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>>119000907
>A servant without his sanity can't really be expected to offer such advice.
>doesn't realize Hercules had his sanity at all times unless illya told him not to bring it with him

hah. Fuck Gil and fuck Saber. Nasu is a hack.
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Would Guts make a good servant? What would his stats and noble phantasm be?
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>>119002340
Would he have been a good father to both Illya & Shirou though?
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>>119003088
>boy


FUCK NASU OR WHOEVER WAS RESPONSIBLE
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>>119003132
Why don't you fuck off?
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>>119003163
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>>119002414
>bedroom eyes on the playground

Yeah. Nah.
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>>119002762
>wish for world peace
>since grail is fucked up it registers this as "let's kill all humanity, that will make the world peaceful!"
>you just exterminated all humans

Look at the bright side. The world will be indeed peaceful with no humans.
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>>119002340
Is there any mage family that isn't full of fuck-ups? Because this is getting to dragon age tier mage stupidity.
This fucker alone just ruined the entire grail war and he keeps trying anyway.
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>>119000157
Is this from a preview.
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>>119003204
Why don't you eat shit?
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>>119003164
>caring about gender
If he is cute, fuck it.
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>>119002340
>>mfw if the Einzberns hadn't corrupted the grail Kerry would have succeeded

This is really dependent on if Saber can defeat Gilgamesh with the assistance of one command spell.

Gil kind of had Saber pinned down with noble phantasms and she was half-dead already.

A command spell boosted Excalibur could probably fire before Enuma Elish is ready or something, though.
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>>119003357
>le secret
Fucking reddit using shit servant
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>>119003364
If Kerry gave her Avalon she could have wiped the floor with Gilgamesh, like what happens in Fate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJcf7EviOXo
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Can't Gil just kill her off screen? we really don't need any more prismshit filth in our threads.
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>>119003537
>If Kerry gave her Avalon

Things that never happened for 500
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>>119003537
Nah, Gil is way stronger than her and only loses because of plot.
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>>119002981
>World Peace doesn't mean no wars.
Actually it does. No wars, no major organized violence at all, basically if how things were in America/Australia/West Europe/Japan applied to the entire planet. It doesn't mean that people aren't mean, don't argue, that everybody has health insurance or equal rights whatever else, that's all separate.

>There's technically not many 'wars' going on in the world right now,
There is a LOT of violence and "wars" (effectively, I don't care if they aren't "official" by whatever), not all but a lot of other problems in term stem from the use of weapons. IRL, there's absolutely nothing easy to do about that and a hundred ways to try to chip away at the problem, all of them hard. But with a truly omnipotent wish granting device? Making everything like the First World is certainly physically possible.

>Even in the first world you have terrorism and civil unrest happening all the time,
"Civil unrest", that doesn't mean anything if it's not violent. And as for violent civil unrest/terrorism, well that'd go away in this scenario too.

>World peace is stupid because it simply cannot be achieved with human nature.
Don't be a fucking retard. There is absolutely nothing in the laws of physics or human nature that would prevent First World from being universal. Nothing. As a practical matter due to how history has run, our current resources, other priorities, etc., it's not really something worth going after much either. But don't confuse that with "cannot be achieved with human nature".

>>119003240
Read the thread faggot, here we're imagining how things could have gone if the Grail WASN'T corrupted by the retarded, self-defeating Einzburns.
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>>119003252
Depends on your viewpoint on "fuckup".

Even though they can't win a grail war, the einzberns are still an extremely old lineage and can recreate miracles through prana.

The grail war is honestly pretty low tier in terms of importance to most magi.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ladHRKpc234

>secondaries
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>>119003615
Her win in Fate was entirely legitimate, stay mad Gilfag
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>>119001150
>playing a video game for FOUR DAYS instead of watching a 4-5 hour series
A U T I S T
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>>119003661
Why is it always black people? Is it because they have the best reactions to things?

Is there any videos with qt nips on niconico?
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>>119003357
>>119003164
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>>119003661
haha holy shit these guys are pathetic
even worse than people who've convinved themselves that fate was ever good
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>>119003725
Yeah, cause your time is so valuable
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>>119003669
I'm not Gilfag, Sabershit.
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>>119003784
LOL
it has nothing to do with time
If you want to spend 15 extra hours just so you can read more filler text, then go ahead. Some people like FSN because of the animation and not the shit story
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>>119003725
>visual novel
>video game
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>>119003649
>The grail war is honestly pretty low tier in terms of importance to most magi.
"Most magi" aren't aware of it, it's kept low key, Einzfags use lineage+bribery on Mage Association plus most magi consider Japan to be worthless bassackwards hickville, and there's tons of politics shit behind the scenes. The prospect of actually getting a path to the Root would be a massive attraction in general, which is why the actual Greater Grail and all that is kept secret, it's off in the middle of nowhere, and so on.
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>>119003819
>LOL
please leave
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>>119002962
The YAMATO are the strongest nationality in Nasuverse

Thats why a nameless farmer cut break reality with his sword and become a superior swordsman to all baka gaijin heroic spirits.
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>>119003865
>complains about VNs not being games by posting a picture of a VN character
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>>119002419
I want an Emiya family SoL with Saber ;_;
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>>119003906
>complains

What? Where? Please stop trying so hard.

>>>/v/
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>>119002319
They're underneath the snow retard. Berserker is heavy as fuck.
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>>119003906
>>119003988
Mr. >>119003865 over her used her implication arrows and her SAP to imply that VNs are not Video games. I don't mind either way since they're kind of but kind of not but I just feel like she needs to understand that if she posts the image there in the meta data post history not there in the previous not opening to discussion
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>>119001770
I want to marry Illya
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>>119003869
Eh? I don't think that they aren't aware of it. Waver was easily able to lookup information in the Association's library regarding it.

It's that it doesn't seem very attractive of a prospect to them.

Fighting in a death battle? Most magi are not combat specialists, even though they probably have a few spells to help them out. They have no experience in battle. Kayneth was naive and wanted to have a traditional duel amongst other magi and you can see what happened regarding that. Other magi are less naive than that.

And then if you survive this death battle, you get an object of religious mythology (they believe it is of religious mythology) while not-subscribed to the life of faith and actually think that it will grant them access to the root? It's wishful thinking at best, unless you are apart of the three families that know the truth regarding it.

That is why outsider magi never joined seeking the root. It's unbelievable.
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>>119004126
Too late. I already did. Captcha confirms
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>>119003995
>the joke
>your head
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>>119004126
Ilya just wants to be with her onii-chan.
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>>119004199
Ilya is a slut who lusts over her classmates
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>>119004234
But I prefer normal Ilya
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>>119004234
Fuck you, you dirty nigger.
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>>119004199
And here's what happened when he broke her little heart.
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>>119004282
Its true
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>>119004160
thats why he said its kept low ky and most magi dont know about it/its true purpos, if all of them knw th ultimate goal of the HGW was for an access to the root, most if not not all would be competing to even get a spot, or outright interfere with the HGW
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>>119004160
I'm serious anon, go read more background material. In particular, the "grail" that is generally more "public" (though the whole thing is still secret, and still "by those incompetent asian apes") is just the lesser, not actual magic. The Greater Grail which is supposed to open a path to the Root is supposed to be a total secret known only to the 3 founding families, the idea being that even if one of the 4 outsiders participating wins the lesser grail isn't actually *that* big a deal and they won't know about the Greater Grail at all. Waver's information was partly stolen and quite incomplete. There's a lot of layers to the whole thing as is normal with mages, who are pretty much universally bastards and stupid careful over their research.
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>>119004351
>implying Miyu didn't hypnotize Illya to "rape" her
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>>119000280
Those wolves must've been badass.
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>>119004367
Why don't magi collaborate with their research so that it can go faster?
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>>119004399
Illya is just a slut
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>>119004351
come on anon miyu is an exception, you can't blame ilya for wanting to tap that. barely counts as a "classmate" anyway really. as for fucking kuro that's kind of like masturbation so it's cool too. anyway that's ilya emiya, can't hold anything with emiya in the name responsible for getting dem bitches. even kerry started with some milk chocolate before going for white chocolate you know?
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>>119004367
Why didn't some DAA's show up to crash the party and summon servants? I'm sure they have nothing better to do.
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>>119004365
The ultimate goal is to ask for any wish. Root access included. However I believe the magi don't believe in it, due to the religious nature of the object.

>>119004367
Waver's information wasn't stolen. It was in the library of the magi association. If you want to keep something a secret from other magi, putting it in the library of their main school is a bad way to go about it.

If someone wins the lesser grail, commands their servant to sudoku and are standing at one of the main leylines, it's possible for access to the root. They don't have to be standing at the great grail for it.
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>>119004498
SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT EITHER SHE'S AS USELESS AS SHIROU IS.
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>>119004645
I'd stick my dick in crazy
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>>119004645
>implying they aren't all craving for the Jackhammer
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>>119004440
>magi
>work together and share their personal mysteries
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>>119004645
I wish I was ruby.
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>>119003661
Why the fuck do I find these so amusing?
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>>119002883
We'll always have doujins, Anon.
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>>119004943
>AATM
>doujin
What?
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>>119003364
You're forgetting the Kerry way.

Pick off the master and slink away and wait for Gil to burn out. Independent action can only take a guy so far.
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>>119004853
I too enjoy watching filthy normie secondaries react to weeb things. And don't remind me of the Hatsune Miku one.
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>>119004645
>>119004498
>>119004351
Emiya Ilya:
>I don't understand what these girls are saying at all.
>Huh kind of odd how much they're hugging me, maybe they're cold?
>No that can't be it, they're taking off their clothes now.
>None of this makes any sense.
>I want to go watch my magical girl anime.
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>>119004988
Independent Action can take Gil for an entire week
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>>119004440
Because nobody who writes manga for a living knows how to do actual research.
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>>119004645
Don't forget that in Prismaverse, she's grown up with Shirou and thus been tainted by his density.
She still won't win because Nasu never lets imouto win.
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>>119003661
I want to see these faggots shit themselves during ep 12. Maybe even heavens feel
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>>119005075
Independent action is power save mode. He can't put up much of a fight.
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>>119003741
It's funny because he wishes that Yamada was a girl in the end. Gender DOES matter.
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>>119002762
>the Grail likely isn't even that powerful

It can alter reality and reach the root. In it's original state before the third war it served as an omnipotent wish granting device that gathered up the pure burning souls of heroic spirits in the cauldron of the greater grail to make anything possible. I think it's fair to infer that changing the world/universe beyond the scope of human imagination or understanding is possible for it.
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>>119004988
>Pick off the master and slink away and wait for Gil to burn out. Independent action can only take a guy so far.
Gil's IA is A-rank though isn't it? Assuming he didn't just find another master again, or fuck who knows what he'd do. He'd have pretty significant operating time though.

Really, hard to say exactly how things would have gone with an uncorrupted Grail. About the same? Most of the players would have presumably been about the same and with the same motivations and entry, but was Caster due to the corrupted Grail or not? Because that'd be a significant disruption if changed. Tokiomi would probably have still tried for and gotten Gil though, and in term Koto would have probably fallen to temptation because he'd have been the same too. Which might still have left a Kerry/Koto showdown, and we did see Kerry win that one once.
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>>119005178
>Nasu never lets imouto win.
Sadly.
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>>119005178
>ilya's boots next to the bed
I'm impressed by the detail
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>>119005204
Gil is a super cheap servant mana wise
He only has to spend mana to open the gate
Everything after that is free
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>>119002949
Fake Assassin Ilya when?
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>>119005245
Well pussy has its plus.

Like you can hide things inside it.
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>>119004985
(Does some googling)

Well, I learned something new. I'm only a mid-tier Fatefag, I'd never even heard of AATM before. All I had was a stay few pages that got posted before.

Now I know!
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>>119005245
>It's funny because he wishes that Yamada was a girl in the end.
That was actually some of the joke, we're talking the Grail war, you could fight with that guy then use the Grail to wish him into a girl if you wanted. Total parallel in more ways then one. Also he used the power of god to do the naked knee sock thing, the Yamada bit was more of a joke and because nobody actually wanted him to stop being cute.
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>>119005289
>A+: Servant can remain in this world indefinitely even without a Master. However, in order to activate his Noble Phantasm, it is necessary to first acquire an extra supply of prana from alternative sources.
No GoB unless he starts sucking cocks.
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How come The Red Man's nuke arrow didn't even scratch Berserker?
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>>119004943
Finally, Ilya fits her Onee-san role.

All she needs now is to ufufufu and ara ara and it'll be complete.
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>>119005417
a. Berserker blocked it like in the vn
b. ufotable doesn't give a fuck
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>>119005178
>Implying anyone will ever win Shirou
>Implying Shirou himself is not a metaphor for the Holy Grail in that all the combatant seek but can never attain him
>Implying he does not end with Bazett because they're the only ones dense enough not to notice each other's density
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>>119002509
>shirou's grown even taller than me
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>>119004440
They do. They do it at a place called the clock tower, where they collude together to hoard magic so as to maintain what little strength there is left of it.

Long story short, if the secret was out the level of the mysteries would fade drastically and before long all magic would be shit and useless.
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How does the luck stat work if Saber can survive Gae Bolg? Isn't that OP?
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>>119005289
I'm pretty sure actually activating Ea takes significant energy at least. Actually, so would using most any other NP beyond merely firing it, but he just doesn't bother with the others nor does he really need Ea in general either. Of course, for all we know Gil has some mana potions in his treasury or some shit.

Really who knows what way Gil would go. Would he just quit the whole thing in disgust, thinking it'd all be his in the end anyway and he only came on a whim in the first place? Would he accept some other master or consider that beneath him? Same with eating souls, would he consider that beneath him too? Maybe they wouldn't meet his standards, or maybe he'd consider them his subjects or who knows.
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>>119005185
>this nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAGCS9TDg7Y
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>>119005590
Gae Bolg is a shit ability that deserves to be shit on for being so shitty.
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>>119005062
You're making her sound like an actual child and not the genre savvy semen demon she actually is in the show
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>>119005417
>ufo "creative license"
In fairness some of their changes have actually been really fucking good and make a ton of sense. But that one was stupid.
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>>119005362
It's such a fantastic read - definitely give it a shot. It's sort of like Carnival Phantasm but more grounded.
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>>119003669
No. It was undeniably plot
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Ilya will never win.
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>>119005590
Saber's luck stat gets promoted three ranks when Shirou's her master - no fucking clue as to why since everything else drops.
Also because Nasu is racist against the Irish.
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>>119005832
She just faked-out Gil by pretending to use Excalibur, but blocked ea with Avalon and then blasted him from a different angle. Nothing unbelievable about it.
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>>119005853
>Ilya will never get a good end and always die
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>>119005636
This guy is boring as fuck.
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>>119005934
Saber has naturally high luck. Her incompatibility with Kiritsugu dropped the luck stat more severely than blackening. Kiritsugu is literally worse than all the evil in the world.
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>>119005954
But it basically is a good end for her. Ilya makes up with her long-lost onii-chan and rescues him, dying happy in the process. Kind of like CotD in a way.
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>>119006007
Yup.
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>>119005590
It helps her when she gambles.
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>>119006018
HF normal and the original Fate route ending were both better in this regard. LE and HF true feel forced, comparatively.
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I don't want to wait till April to continue watching this ;_;
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>>119002509
;_;
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>>119002509
that's just not fair
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>>119006120
Whoa what? How is HF true contrived regarding Illya?
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>>119003252
That's what happens when you try to rig the game though I guess. It's karma.

It seems like the Einzberns spunked away all their talent when they sacrificed Justicia to create the core of the greater grail.
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What do I move on to after finishing the VN, Zero, and HA?
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>>119006191
Einzbern decision making skills at work.

>>119006213
Read Tsukihime.
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That reminds me. Who the fuck is stabbing Archer in the flash back in the dream? I really don't remember that.
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>>119006213
read Kara no Kyoukai and then was the movies.
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>>119006213
Although HA was made first I'd personally go Zero then HA.

They put a lot of nods to Zero in HA, and if you go through Zero first they'll be a lot more funny/sad.
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Well?
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>>119006007
KERRY DID LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG
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>>119006213
extra
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>>119006391
Rin.
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>>119006423
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>>119006391
Is this even a real question?
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>>119006391
Both choices lead to cute conversations, so you have to do both at some point. After reading Illya's choice, I would choose Rin thereafter because I love her with all my heart.
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>>119003725
>four days
>not the short way
He is the REAL playtime, waiting for voices and getting all cg / ends.
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>>119006402
extra is fucking terrible, literally no reason to go through it. just look up a summary of the characters and plot and there you go, you saved hours of your time that would have been spent going through shit
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>>119006443
Yes.
Yes I am.
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>>119006527
;_;
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>>119006487
>Thumbnail
The shit happened there?
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>>119006443
Rin's cute
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>>119006487
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>119006510
I can only assume that you read the non-voiced parts very slowly. Or left the application on without reading it.
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>>119006337
This requires an answer.
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>>119002281
Fake as duck.

>>119006603
Auto-read the whole way with some back tracking to get all choices.
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>>119006487
Does this mean somewhere there is a stretched or compressed out Illya thumbnail?
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>>119006590
>>119006487
>mysql in charge of acid
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>>119006391
Choosing Rin is a douchebag move. Rin can take the abuse. But Illya is Shirou's sister. Choosing a slut over your sister is a terrible thing to do.
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Is it a waste to use a command spell to make your servant have sex with you?
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>>119006686
But Rin isn't a slut

>inb4 ohohoho
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Reminder : If Cu is summoned as Saber he gets Fraggle Rock but loses Gay Bulge. He still keeps his RUNES though.

Do you think Cu would have fared better as a Saber?
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>>119006651
>Auto-read the whole way
No wonder it took you five days. But don't expect this to be the typical game playtime.
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>>119006686
>Choosing a slut over your sister is a terrible thing to do.
Excellently said.
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>>119006833
It is if you do it right.
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>>119006642
answer me
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>>119006443
It doesn't matter which route you choose, rin ad shirou are meant for each other, even just as fuck buddies at the very least
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>>119005943
After being knocked unconscious and spared. She isn't stronger even with it.
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>>119006337
A "friend" that turned on him before he went too far, i don't think it's ever introduced anyway so it's someone he knows after all the grial war obviously
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>>119006797
I don't think Cu can be summoned as Saber, just Caster and Berserker.
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>>119007259
>>119005943
>>119005832
>>119003669
Gilgamesh is obviously and undeniable strong, but after being so corrupted and cocky in the 5th war he makes lots of mistakes and gives a lot of openings, also I don't think he's that good or smart enough for a mano a mano fight, considering his class and all
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>>119007268
well, I thought that too. But doesn't it look kind of old time wise? Like it happened waaay in the past?
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>>119007381
Gil could still beat a Saber with Avalon, but he'd have to play smarter. The reason why he loses in Fate is because Avalon is a good counter to his advantage of NP spam and Ea.
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>>119000157
I know how you feel, too much of anything good can be painful.
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>>119005620
We already have a pretty good idea of how Gil would behave. He isn't so jarringly different between Zero and SN, where he's fine with eating souls and contrasted with Iskandar as a king who didn't need subjects.
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>>119006039
>Rin lowers Archer's Luck
This amuses me
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>>119007460
The combination of Avalon and Saber's NotSpideySense-Instinct Rank A sounds pretty broken.
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>>119007424
probably one of his counter guardian summonings

>>119007460
>but he'd have to play smarter
Well there you have it, he didn't, he's not smart enough to react quickly after being cached off guard
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>>119006391
Ilya
Everytime
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>>119006797
Cu needs to be summoned as Berserker
Muh Riastrad
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>>119007381
Arrogance in that he wasn't fighting to kill Saber for the vast majority of the fight, while she was. He wasn't even corrupted, just pissy that mankind became what it is.
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>>119007532
That has fuck-all to do with intelligence. He didn't react because he was anchored, and he didn't win because he had no knowledge of Avalon and didn't kill her when the opportunity presented itself right before she used it.
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>>119007613
>He wasn't even corrupted
comparing him with his other versions, he kind of was see fate /extra
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>>119006443
I tried to get as many Rin points as possible in Heaven's Feel even though they were useless.
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>>119007532
>probably one of his counter guardian summonings
"A friend turning on him before he went too far" happened when Shirou was alive and playing a hero of justice, It would've happened before he actually became counter-guardian.
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>>119007354
In addition to Lancer class he can be summoned as Caster and Berserker. In Ace/Royal he can be summoned as Rider or Saber. People bitch and moan about Ace/Royal because it's a card game, but it provides a bunch of alternate summon's for heroes that should be able to be summoned as other classes, but are locked out for stupid nonsensical reasons.
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>>119007730
He really wasn't. Even CCC Gil drills in the fact that he wouldn't be nearly as tolerant if the era wasn't to his liking, and it wasn't in SN.
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>>119001179
>Tsukihime
>episode

Yes listen to this anon
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>>119006039
mooncancer op
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>>119001179
You must be referring to another series, anon, Tsukihime was never adapted into an anime format.
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>>119007805
YOU SAW THE SHIKI GLASSES. UFOTABLE TSUKIHIME ADAPTATION IS COMING.
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>>119007805
Anon what are you doing?
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>>119007877
Please, based ufotable. Please.
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>>119007877
If TH ever gets adapted, I hope it's the manga adaptation with some extra shit from other routes, that was the best adaptation out there yet, even though that's not saying much

also do you guys think we are going to see a clocktower scene at the end of next season?
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>>119007953
I want to believe there will be a Tsukihime anime that isn't complete shit.
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>>119007987
>>119007994
Who's dick do I have to suck to get Ufo to animate Tsukihime? Hopefully Saber's.
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>>119007994
I can't help but hope that they were teasing at the desire to adapt Tsukihime with that.
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>>119007953
God I haven't seen that image in like ten years.
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>>119007994
Would you rather Far Side of the Moon or Near Side of the Moon?
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>>119007877
the manga adaptation, and quick, before Nasu turns tsukihime remake into dark souls somehow, also satsuki reality marble vs ubw, who wins? (can this even be possible?)
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>>119007805
I really liked the design of the characters in the anime, especially Arcueid, but I'll be damned if they didn't fuck up everything else. I'm not surprised since they fell into the trap of trying to adapt every route. The Deen Fate would have been much worse if it had 6+ routes crammed together with half the episodes.
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>>119008043
Nasu won't let anyone do new Tsukihime things until he's completed the remake.
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>>119008084

Nobody knows what happens when you try to Reality Marble in a Reality Marble but Nasu.

Depletion Garden would probably crash another RM in seconds if they have to exist simultaneously though.
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How long do you think before we get the first Strange Fake novel translated?
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>>119008084
Who's that? Some minor side character? Seems vaguely familiar.
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>>119008057
Near Side. I always felt that Roa made a pretty shitty villain, and focusing more on the bizarre and fucked up things in the Tohno family's history and the relationships of the maids and siblings was more interesting than pseudochristian fantasy nonsense.

The characters were the best part of Tsukihime and I didn't like the Far side routes for sidelining so many of them
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>>119008099
What if the ufotable adaption is the remake?
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>>119008192
You mixed up near and far side anon.

>>119008187
Fuck you Nasu. Tell Takeuchi to stop ruining Arc.
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>>119007953
I genuinely enjoyed it, but then again I watched it before I read the VN
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>>119007994
I thought it was a Potter joke?
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>>119008192
I think the atmosphere was the most interesting part of Tsukihime, it's almost noir. I'm sure all of that will be lost in the remake when they try to make it more like Fate.
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>>119008248
>You mixed up near and far side anon.
It's been a while
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Started Tsukihime. Are these vertical lines in the text supposed to be there?
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>>119008336

Nope. Those are meant to be ellipses.
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Fuck all you Tsukihimefags, and your self-insert shitty protag. I only want a Apocrypha adaption.
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>>119008214
why did you had to give me hope anon, why did you had to put that into my mind, do you have any idea how long it would take to get over it after I never get this?

>>119008284
it was, yer a mage sherro
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>>119008336
Bad font.
Are you using like a preinstalled version or something? Fuwanovel?
The lines should not be lines but "..." iirc, seen that problem in a couple of VN threads.
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>>119008363
Shiki is too japanese and too douchy for me to self-insert too. Just saying.
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>>119008353
Did I do something wrong, then? I have the Fuwanovel/Mirror Moon one, I don't know if there's a better release.
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>>119008176
>no one cares about Strange Fake

Okay.
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>>119008305
If it was ever adapted I would very much wish for it to be done with pacing and style similar to KnK.

I would happily compromise the production values for the mood and atmosphere and overall directing that the KnK movies had. I feel like the almost oppressive atmosphere and smothering presence of the environment that especially the first KnK movie had would be perfect for a Tsukihime adaptation.
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>>119008284
seriously?
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>>119008336
You'll get used to it eventually|||or not.
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>>119004440
because of the rules of the nasuverse, magic becomes weaker the more people understand its inner workings. only the most general knowledge is shared.

even then magic needs to be burned into the body and ones potential is set at birth so it takes multiple generations of the same family to accomplish anything in most cases
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>>119008410
>Muh maids
>Muh blue haired girl of the Church who wants my D
>Muh slutty encarnation of the FUCKING MOON who also wants my D
>Muh power of killing anything
>Muh Muh Muh
God, he is more self insert than Shirou. But Mikiya still win.
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>>119008489
You'd have to have some serious issues to self-insert into Shirou.
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>>119008450
If they made it the same as the KnK OVAs it would be perfect.
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>>119000157
Thought that was Bulat for a second there.
I need to get my eyes checked.
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>>119006039
Y'know, since EVERY single motherfucking fight in Nasuverse always gets decided by Noble Phantasms, the first five parameters are a complete waste of space.

Jus' sayin'.
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answer me typefags, if there was ever a "main" plot line in the nasuverse, you know, something central that joined the plots from the diferent works nasu did, would it be sorounding the aozaki sisters right?
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>>119008532
Would you be on /a/ if you didn't have some serious issues?
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>>119008554
Zeltrech
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>>119008554
No, Zelretch.
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>>119008450
Yeah, KnK is what gave me hope for another go at Tsukihime someday. The feel is very different from Fate despite being high production values, overlapping studio and same universe. So they're not incapable of keeping things distinct, which is actually kind of rare, and in turn it's not impossible that Tsukihime could keep a different feel from Fate too, assuming Nasu doesn't decide otherwise I guess. Hopefully they'll all recognize the value of not having everything become same-y.
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>>119008560
No, I'm doing pretty well over here. I certainly don't have anywhere near the amount of problems Shiki or Shirou have.
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>>119008554

That'd have to be from the perspective of an objective observer, so something like the swirl of the root.
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>>119008554
No. It doesn't matter now though, the Fate side has consumed the Tsukihime side and now we'll never get any further growth outside of those two franchises.
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>>119008617
Then what are you even doing here?
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>>119008428
Fuwanovel is for retard. Download iso and install yourself like any sane person.
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>>119008532
I don't think any main character from nasuverse can be selfinsertable, everyone is broken as fuck Maybe Aoko
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>>119008646
Because I like type-moon. Now hush about this nonsense.
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>>119008656
Fuwanovel has its uses.
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>>119008434
It's getting a manga as well >>119003985
so at least the manga should probably be translated pretty quickly.
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>>119003252
how did they rig or taint the grail? Is that why the grail tried to fulfill wishes in a sadistic way? How would the Einzberns benefit from this?
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>>119006391
The one who isn't a bitch to work with.
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>>119008725
They tried to cheat and accidentally fused the grail with an avatar for all the evils of the world. The grail is now the most evil thing since /q/
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>>119008689
That's why Ryougi Shiki is indeed the best girl, best MC, best protagonist and the strongest person on the whole Nasuverse
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>>119008725
Summoning Avanger?
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>>119008450
The first KnK movie was shit though
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>>119008725
It's because Einzberns broke their own rules and summoned all the evils of the world thinking it was a good idea.
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>>119008579
>>119008580
I forgot about that old fart, but yeah that's exactly what I was thinking

>>119008625
you think so? there isn't that much to explode than those two anyway, maybe something completely new, but that would mean "killing off" those two franchises too(storywise I mean), so I kind of find it hard to believe otherwise too.
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>>119008771
You lost me.
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>>119000157
>>119001123


"You left me to die!"
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>>119008766
How exactly? Did they put something inside Ilya's mother so that when she turned into the grail it would instead fulfill some preprogrammed Einzbern wish?
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>>119008771
yes, but she doesn't get laid as often
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>>119008752
Is she the biggest in Fate?
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>>119008794
Man, I just really want dead apostles to be explored more. So much fucking potential. Sacchin is so goddamn OP and becomes one in a day and also has a reality marble, but she doesn't even have her own route.

More stuff involving the church would be great too. Grail wars are nice and all, but I want other stuff.
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>>119008853
Summoned Avanger in the 3rd war.
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>>119008870
Well, that's a good thing after all.
Keep your sluts to yourself.
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>>119008284
>>119007994
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>>119008725
in short: they broke their own rules and also the rule of "don't be a complete fucking retard" by summoning the embodiment of human evil as their servant for the third war figuring LOL EZ WIN NOW never realizing that
A) embodiment of evil was a fucking weakling who'd lose asap
B) whole point of grail is gathering up mana/spirit, and grail has no "morality" it's just a tool, so if you feed it total evil HMM MAYBE SOMETHING MIGHT GO WRONG

they did this because they were so rectal ragnarok'd after losing a mere two wars because apparently they thought they'd just win instantly or some shit.

or even shorter tl;dr: elder einz is a prideful impatient dumbshit
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>>119008794
All Nasu needs to do is do a story from the perspective of someone who isn't a Magi or someone we've seen before. All we see these days are grail wars.
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>>119008853
No, they summoned Angry Manjew as a Servant.
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>>119008853
It was during the third war. They summoned Avenger as their servant and when he died his tainted soul corrupted the grail,
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>>119008896
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>>119008888
it's not being a slut if she's in a long term monogamous relationship with the dense mother fucker. Anyway's she eventually got what she wanted in the end
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>>119003537
I've almost forgot how based Gilgamesh actually was.
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>>119008978
At least it wasn't with the Not-Shirou from the 5th (or was it 6th?) movie.
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>>119008819
I'm not ready for this again. They're going to cut out her eyes, i just know it.
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>>119008963
it could be nice to be a mage/vampire

sacchin had to had some good mage potential if she turned into such a powerful vampire that fast
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Does anyone else get the feeling that they're bullshitting us about what Satsuki's route contains? Arcueid and Ciel appear in their full roles, meaning it can't be an early Near Side route. Akiha's power is well known as well as Kohaku's unhinged mind. That implies the full knowledge of the Far Side routes is revealed. Nero Chaos is dead, Roa is dead, Satsuki is alive as the tenth Dead Apostle Ancestor if they want her to be. Arcueid and Ciel are both still hanging around, but Shiki hasn't chosen either one. They just took all the most interesting bits of all the routes and stuck them together while maintaining the full cast and making sure that there are no boring villains from the old game still around. They can write whatever they want to with Satsuki's route.
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>>119009029
>"Where are you, Berserker? I can't see you"
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>>119009055
>good mage potential
That's an understatement. She might even have more potential than Ciel.
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>>119009029
they didn't cut the "heart out", but they DID cut the classmates melting to their bones in the first floor thing
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>>119009055
She had her own reality marble.
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>>119008912
>>119008930

There wasn't really anything bad about the guy himself (except that he was a shitty, shitty servant). It's just that the wishes inscribed on his flesh happened to trigger the grail's wish-granting function when he died.
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>>119009122
that's just emiya level of op in fast leveling up. that plus i think she had some kind of mystic eyes, how fucking op she was?
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>>119008771
Ufotable did a great job in the sense that KnK was a shitty novel that was an interesting movie series.
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Jouji Nakata really has a very narrow range of characters he can voice.
Though, granted, the ones he does are fucking amazing.
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>>119009213
>shitty novel
Are we talking about KnK or Fate stay/night?
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Why are there so many skeletons/familiars in the UBW adaptation? For sure Ilya didn't have any familiars, and in the Rule Breaker scene I don't remember there being any skeletons.
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>>119009177
"1 out of a 10,000 individuals has the potential to achieve this level [dead apostle] but it takes at least a hundred years of development. Satsuki Yumizuka was a rare case among rare cases, for she had enough magical potential to skip the first two steps and become a vampire from the beginning. "

From the wiki anyway.
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>>119009262
Nakata's voice is pure sex. Why isn't Berserker voiced by Norio Wakamoto?
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>>119009262
He does Leonidas in the Japanese dub of 300.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyuL5urzEgg
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>>119009262
He does Nyanta from Log Horizon actually. I'd say that's decent range.
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>>119000624
Gettin real fed up with your shit king of jobbers
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So was that hour-long episode the end of the first cour? I always figured it'd end at Achah's betrayal.
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>>119009318
>Madness, you say? This is the way of Sparta!
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>>119009371
Nigga, what part of
>April 2015
do you not understand?
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>>119009371
They only have so much content left as is.

The second cour is gonna be interesting.
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>>119009371
Second season will open with the betrayal of White Man.
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>>119009318
This just reinforced my belief that subs will always be superior to dubs. Even the best voice actors can't make it look less jarring.
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>>119009318
MUH DICK.
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>>119009371
Nah, this is the best place for it to end. By the betrayal you've already had Shirou lose Saber and everything not immediately explode into horribleness, so at that point you're already expecting them to keep on trucking anyway.
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>>119009318
I still don't know why that movie was even released in Japan.
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>>119009437
He's covered by like 15% whiteness, does that not constitute being in white!?
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>>119009444
That's what I've always thought. Dubs are shit no matter the language.
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>>119009437
Can't Trust Whitey
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So, where does one find a subbed version of the S2 trailer? All I can find is the shitty LQ one on youtube.
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Did SakuraFish post today?
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>>119009479
>>119009504

I bet his hair is the blame for being called White Man by Shirou.
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>>119009110
>but they DID cut the classmates melting to their bones in the first floor thing
Yeah, that was one of the things that mildly surprised me actually, I honestly thought ufo would leave it in rather then toning it way down so that nobody was hurt. F/Z was plenty dark enough, and I think it was actually a pretty important scene because it's when Rin (and players) really starts to realize how Distorted Shirou is. She's a mage apprentice, full personality control and everything, but even she was shaken by that, but Shirou doesn't really react at all beyond mild concern and analysis.

Didn't have remotely the same impact at all with people just "passed out". I guess they must have decided that F/SN, even in UBW/HF, should be lighter overall then F/Z. Commercially that's understandable and it's not a huge deal but I think it actually would have been worth it in terms of character development and setting the tone to actually show the real effects of Blood Fort Andromeda.
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>>119009504
You know it
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>>119009591
He's probably confused because his future self has white hair.
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>>119009274
Take a wild guess.
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>>119009524
At the end of episode 12. Skip past the credits.
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>>119000157
Is there any guide to read berserker without the NTR and Rape? I mean I really want to get into it but those things throw me off
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>>119009591
From Shirou's perspective, he saw the hair and the sword.
And we all know Shirou notices swords above everything else, thus relating him to 'white' before 'red'. He doesn't have a red sword, and the black one was on the other side.

If anything it's a very subtle foreshadowing.
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>>119009649
>tsundere.blogspot
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How necessary IS it for one to read the VN to enjoy the series?
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>>119009569

Sakura!Fish2Mlhz2 has missed a couple days now.
I guess, at long last, we like it.
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>>119009698
If you don't read it you probably wont' enjoy it.
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>>119008125
>Nobody knows what happens when you try to Reality Marble in a Reality Marble but Nasu.
Supposedly the most "powerful" world crushes the other. Whatever power is meant to imply when it comes to reality marbles.

Or at the very least that's what can be inferred from how reality marbles interact with gaia, and gaia's "reality marble".
In theory, if a reality marble more powerful than gaia's were to be summoned, gaia should be crushed by whatever reality marble that was imposed on it, and then that world would become relatively self sustainable as gaia no longer tries to crush it. And then that would become the normal world.

We can probably assume that's how reality marbles would interact with other reality marbles as well. Provided how it should all be the same shit with the exception of gaia's reality marble being the most powerful and without another reality ontop of it trying to crush it.
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>Shirou uses projection
>GREEN LIGHTNING EVERYWHERE, GREEN LIGHTNING AURA CRACKLING AFTER PROJECTION!

But that's not how I ever envisioned projection. This is worse than Shirou's lightsaber wooden swords and chair legs. I always imagined it as one second your hand is empty, there's a "blueprint" that last the blink of an eye, and then boom weapon. Not going super saiyan.

Though I did like how they executed his post-projection circuit damage. Hopefully his other projections will be smoother without any lightning.
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>>119009698
Only if you want to waste even more time on this franchise.
Watch the anime and shitpost about it.
It's a bliss.
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>>119009698

How necessary? Probably only like 20% of people would find it completely unenjoyable without previous experience. But people who have read the VN probably find it way more enjoyable overall.

Not unenjoyable, but not as enjoyable.
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>>119009705
I've been waiting a few days to reply to him with this.
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>>119009740
>But that's not how I ever envisioned projection
Me neither. I mean, I guess it's one way to see it since whenever Shirou uses projection you get a look at his magic circuits doing that, but I always saw that as being INTERNAL.

Taking a look at Archer though I think the more he uses it the less "showy" it will look, and eventually you'll just see the blades appearing without much of a flash at all.
I hope.
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>>119009698
Chances are good that you will find it meh, or just simply bad. More likely so if you have expectations based on the hype built by people actually invested in the multi media franchise.

But then again, even if you actually did end up enjoying it, which is a fairly plausible outcome as well.
You are still very likely to end up disappointed that you have basically ruined the franchise for yourself by digesting it in the wrong order.
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>>119009776
he got banned for 3 days spamming.
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>>119009698
If you only watch the animated adaptions you're getting a really fragmented experience. Each route on its own doesn't give you a good enough understanding of what's going on behind the scenes. That said, it's not necessary, the Ufa adaptions are really quite good and the deen adaption (which is basically a mangled version of the Fate route) is watchable.
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>>119000157
Thought he was equipped with an S-rank pompadour for a second.

Glad to see I was mistaken
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>>119009740
Did the way Archer projects the twin swords fit your image better? I assume after the "reveal" happens, and Shirou starts to learn some shit, he'll project the way Archer does with very little or no "sparks".
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>>119009740

Did you think all this lightning shit was, like, a metaphor?
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DEEN Shirou can project a blanket. I bet no other Shirou can do that. Thus;

DEEN Shirou >>>> VN and Ufotable Shirou
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>>119009698
Most of the hype around this series comes from people who have read the VN. If you haven't read it, you won't see what the big deal is when you watch it. Basically watching it without reading the VN is a good way to ruin any potential enjoyment you could have gotten out of the series.
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>>119009871
HA shirou can project a toiled, BEAT THAT
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>>119009871
Best Shirou right here.
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>>119009861
Yeah actually.
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>>119009740
>I always imagined it as one second your hand is empty, there's a "blueprint" that last the blink of an eye, and then boom weapon. Not going super saiyan.
The "super saiyan" was probably Shirou overloading and frying his circuits from overcasting. And if he is slower than Archer it's because he is inexperienced.
Archer, being legit good at projection can do it in the blink of an eye as evident from his clashes with Lancer where blocked a barrage of attacks faster than the speed of sound. Blocking with a new weapon in hand each time.
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>>119009740
FWIW anon, and beyond the obvious of ufo just wanting to juice things up, I think they might argue some justification in terms of "long inactive circuits having energy forced through them again" type thing. In other words all the fancy effects are not projection, I mean shit, we see EMIYA do plenty of projection and it's simple as you describe. Rather all the lightning and shit is a complete side effect of circuits being pumped and going nuts, it was a one time thing. Plus of course him using his nerves as pseudo circuits like a dumbshit for a while.
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There exists no greater justice in this world than the fact that Ilyashitters have to endure the fact that her literal heart was awesomely torn out of her psuedohuman body in dramatic bloody fashion

It's almost enough for me to respect Nasu

Actually it is enough to make me respect Nasu. He's like a mini-Anno
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>>119006651
That's a long pause between pages. I read at 35 or 40 speed usually, and keep the pause between pages anywhere from 200 to 500. Removing the background moonspeak speeds the game up a LOT on autoread, too.
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>>119009661
Well now I feel fucking retarded. Thanks
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How do we auto-ban anyone who posts images from the DEEN anime?

For instance we could calculate the md5 (or sha2) hashes of every screencap of every frame of the DEEN series, and autoban any images that match it.
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>>119009698
Ufotable is doing it's best, but after the first episode they dropped the internal monologues that give a much better picture of who Shirou is. You can watch and enjoy the series, but I would advice reading the VN.

If you are put off by the clunky and overly long sex scenes that make George R.R. Martin's sex scenes look like art then go with the RN version. It removes the sex scense, adds some pretty god-teir music, and includes some other fun stuff. i have some problems with some of the things it does with the HF route, but that's more of a personal issue.
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>>119009926

Well it isn't. Those circuits run through his body. You see them glow through his flesh when he's getting into it.

When they're crackling with lightning, HE'S crackling with lightning.

It's only so electrical the first few times though. When everything works right, there's just the glowing circuit-board lines.
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>>119010008
I knew Shirou was a robot.
I've been saying this since day one but nobody believed me.
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>>119009995

What about the unlimited DEEN works.webm?
Surely we can keep that around for reference.
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>>119010003
>removing sex scenes
>recommending RN, which completely fucks up the point of the scenes

What are you, some sort of faggot?
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>>119010036
Post it?
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>>119009857
Yeah, Archer's projection in episode 0 was pretty much exactly how I imagined the magic. With all that lightning being internal, which IMO makes it seem even worse. He's being fucking fried from the inside. Hopefully you're right, and I can see that. Need to make the first projection look crazy cool, then tone it down.
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>>119009730
You can get another view on things by looking at the TYPEs, which can create "reality marbles" merely by existing but just sort of seem to result in a blended world with Gaia like Crystal Valley. Presumably as the ultimates of each respective world they're equivalent in power, though since they're inactive until Notes and at that point Gaia is dead it's hard to draw a whole lot of info.

Actually that's an interesting thought, I wonder if any humans had survived beyond GG with reality marbles how they'd work in the Land of Steel. Would they be able to wield them pretty freely with relatively low cost since there'd be no counter force?
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>>119010026
>>119010008
>>119009740
>>119009861
>>119009926
Is Shirou Autistic?
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>>119009995
You know if you wanted I could stream the movie dubbed if you wanna see it so bad.
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>>119010058
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>>119008551
The strongest servant to date doesn't have a Noble Phantasm at all, though her skills and nature are on par with an NP.

Berserker also manages well enough
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>>119010086
more of a ptsd faggot
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>>119009995
>people still hating on Deen
>forgetting that they gave us the VAs, excellent OST and the best rendition of disillusion and greatly boosted the popularity of the series
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>>119010008
And that's what I love. The simple, internal charging and the BARELY visible burst of energy (thin green lines appearing in pulses, and only lightly) just seems so much more dangerous than super saiyan style stuff. Dat calm confidence and the knowledge that while it isn't that showy, those lines mean the character is at max output. I guess I just like the subtle/implied badassery over the obvious stuff.
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>>119010114
Who would that be, and does she appear in any of the "wars" or other Fate stories?
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>>119010045
I was just saying that it's an option, some people get turned off by the sex scenes. I don't like what RN did to them either, especially in HF. Half of what made Sakura a sympathetic villain was that she she was brutalized and raped for most of her life, taking that away, making her a vampire, and having her kill Shinji for spoiling a movie was just stupid.
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>>119010109
>the reason /a/ hates DEEN so much is because they QUALITY-fucked-up the battle scenes, the primary and arguably only parts of merit in an animated adaptation
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>>119010082
>Actually that's an interesting thought, I wonder if any humans had survived beyond GG with reality marbles how they'd work in the Land of Steel. Would they be able to wield them pretty freely with relatively low cost since there'd be no counter force?
In theory, yes, but they'd still need to get the necessary mana to deploy and maintain them somehow. There'd be less cost.

Once you're out in space, for example, activating UBW should be much easier, and it'll even give you an environment to live in and shit, but you do still need to maintain that world, and activate it.
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>>119010194
>and having her kill Shinji for spoiling a movie was just stupid.

I thought that was a joke
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>>119010114
When did Gilgamesh become a chick?

But seriously, who're you talking about? A new F/E CCC Servant? Everyone still knows Saber's actually the strongest.
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>>119010178
King Protea, Fate/CCC Foxtail, scrapped design from CCC that Nasu approved of and finished the stat page for the manga. It's a servant that should not be summoned, even the Mooncell sealed it away.

>Real Name: Kingprotea
>Gender: Female
>Height/Weight: 30~?m/?kg
>Alignment: Lawful Good

>Strength: EX
>Endurance: EX
>Agility: A
>Magic: D
>Luck: B
>Noble Phantasm: -

>Alter Ego of thirst of love.
>G means gigantism, growing, greed.
>It was formerly sealed at the ends of the imaginary number space.
>Alter Egos are complexes made from several goddesses, however Protea is created from the essence of the great Mother Goddess that is common throughout all mythologies. Her self can be treated as a Noble Phantasm as she does not >possess a Noble Phantasm. As with the Golden White Face, she's a hazard that can only be overcome in battle through the combined strength of several servants.

>Class Skills
>■ Huge Scale - EX
>A cheat skill that evolved from Self-Modification.
>There is no limit to how large she can get. Once the upper limit is reached, the upper limit is further increased. This is infinitely repeated. Basically infinite growth of infinite growth.
>Anywho, she's a planet destroying universe level disaster, but giant transformation makes her lose complex intelligence and function. This skill cannot bear common sense, so one completely self-destructs.

>■ Grow Up Grow - EX
>Cheat Skill evolving from Experience Point Bonus.
>Experience Point Bonus allows one to gain a bonus percentage of experience points after a battle. King Protea's skill cheats and changes it to "Always gaining Experience Points."

>Personal Skills
>■ Self-Suggestion - EX
>Suggestion applied to oneself.
>A skill that raises resistance against mental interference. At A rank "I do not age = Truly stops aging" level of assumption is possible. At EX level, whatever is going on in that mental world is outside of understanding.
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>>119010149
DEEN did a lot of things right, but people like to hate on them because of the bandwagon. You even get to the point where idiots say DEEN is the worst studio ever despite only watching Higurashi and F/SN.

>>119010194
Too bad RN is canon.
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>>119010194
why is rin a vampire
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>>119010219
No, it was completely serious.

In RN, Sakura kills Shinji because he spoiled a movie's ending.
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>>119009995
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>>119010194
>having her kill Shinji for spoiling a movie was just stupid.
is there a screencap for this scene?

>>119010238
>Too bad RN is canon.
do you have anything to back this up?
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>>119010238
I could forgive the horrendous QUALITY if they didn't also butcher the storyline. But they did, so that's that.
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>>119010236
?
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>>119010236
The fuck? Last I checked king protea was a flower. Not any person in history.

How does a plant become a Servant?
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>>119010304
She's not a servant, she's a semen demon.
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>>119010238
>Too bad RN is canon.
Nope. Last PC release of the game was 18+.
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>>119010239
Because that's Rider.
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>>119010194
>making her a vampire

Rider's the vampire. See the eyes? Rider. Sakura was a genuine semen demon, not a vampire.
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>>119010335
>Not impenetrable
Prove it.
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>>119010194
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The H scenes in Fate are godawful but they are important to the plot in Sakura's case.
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>>119010212
>Once you're out in space, for example, activating UBW should be much easier, and it'll even give you an environment to live in and shit, but you do still need to maintain that world, and activate it.
Type Moon: The Space Odyssey.
The colonizers of the new world have encountered a problem. And the oxygen on their ship is running out.

But wait! One man has a hidden secret. He is actually a magus! With a Reality Marble at that.
He summons his Reality Marble to save the lives of the colony. But wait. There is no supply of mana! The inhabitants of this world must now accept and live with the fact that this man is literally the centre of their world and needs to be given a steady supply of mana or else their world will succumb ending in the death of them all!
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>>119010323
It's based on the forgotten original divine spirit from some ancient ruins that existed in Turkey which date back some 8000 years or something.

>Potnia Theron [EX]
>Potnia Theron (Conception of All Animals).
>The authority of the goddesses whom BB compiled and absorbed from the abyss of the mooncell.
>What it is is the embodiment of the power of creation possessed by the mother goddesses, originating from a forgotten goddess approximately 8000 years ago (the goddess of Çatalhöyük), and branching to Tiamat and Cybele, Ishtar, Inanna, Athena, Astarte, Gaia, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter, Athena, etc.
>Many are imaged with mural crowns. This is because many of the goddesses were also the guardian deities of cities.
             ◆
>The symbols of this authority are the holes opening in the earth and the sky (caves and the moon), the whirlpools and typhoons of the sea, the craters of volcanos, and so on, and from these, evils bringing forth all manners of death are birthed.
>But once these evils have finished spreading death, they leave the promise of good harvest and fertility. This authority is none other than the power of bringing death as well as giving life.
>The earth mother is a guardian deity revered by the people and their protector, and at the same time she is the sacrifice that feeds them with the crops born from her body and the beasts of the fields and the forests.
>The earth mother feeds man with her blood and flesh, kills man over time and absorbs him as nutrition, and once again feeds man with her replenished blood and flesh.
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>>119010376
Cheap type-moon porno. I like the sounds of it.
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>>119010238
>>119010292
Everything is fucking canon.

You do realize Fate is a garbage omnipandering franchise, right?

Face it, your favourite series is artistically and intellectually fucking bankrupt and nasu can't be arsed to take a single hard stance on anything because he doesn't want to aggravate much less alienate a single member of the fanbase that's given him so much money.

There's a reason they removed H-scenes
There's a reason there's multiple anime in the first place

It's not for VNfags
It's not for "true" fans
It's not for you.
He's pandering to a mainstream more normalfag audience who don't want to be bothered with spending days reading an eroge from a decade ago.

Nasu has stabbed you and your brethren in the back and yet you're delusional enough to think of it as an extreme backrub.

Nasu is trying to milk this cow for all its worth from every audience and you keep giving him what he wants.
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What's /a/ doing for Tsukihime's 15th birthday?
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>>119010325
All Servants are.
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>>119010404
>This process is the circle of the food chain, and the cycle of life and death can be said to be the true nature of the earth mother. With this authority, most of the goddesses gave birth to countless monsters and giants and posed a threat to the gods and man, or they gave birth to heroes and became protectors of man.
>Tiamat and Gaia are examples of those who became threats, and Hera is an example of a mother of heroes.
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>Those born on this earth cannot defy the authority of the earth mother, as that would mean rebelling against the system of life itself.
>However, it is when they have left this earth to go into outer space and ended the infantile stage of intelligent lifeforms that they should no longer be bound to this authority..
>The wish of Çatalhöyük is the coming of that day.
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>>119010351
Sakura still drank Shirou's blood in RN instead of getting energy from his semen.
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>>119010325
There are a lot of semen demons around here. I still don't know who that is.
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>>119010376
>commence harem hijinx

I wonder if an RM would move according to the wishes of its owner while in space? In FZ Iskandar can control where people exit the RM up to a certain point, but is that short-range or long range?

>enter RM somewhere between Earth and Moon
>in your world, you decide distance, bitch
>leave RM in orbit over Mars
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>>119010251
Shit... there has to be a common screencap for something so silly. I never bothered with RN because I already had the original + RN content, this sounds like even the creators hate wormslut. The whole "the other daughter would have been better" and "grandfather left a single grain of rice uneaten" shit was bad enough, but HA is practically a VN in the style of Carnival Phantasm in some scenes, so I let it slide. RN lets Sakura be THAT petty?
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>>119010298
>butcher the storyline
Have you ever watched a "good" anime that had to adapt 3 routes into one story? How about condensing a 20 hour narrative into a 1 hour movie? DEEN isn't to blame.
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>>119010331
Not that anon but was the F/SN + HA bundle any good?
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>>119010003
>If you are put off by the clunky and overly long sex scenes that make George R.R. Martin's sex scenes look like art then go with the RN version
While I do agree with you that playing the VN is better then nothing and if someone truly found that a deal breaker I'd rather they at least gave RN a spin, unfortunately some of the sex scenes have important stuff and do matter, they're just terrible. Guess it's a bit of a microcosm of a lot of the issues with FSN, as another anon said it's a grand tale with all parts combined, and there's a ton of interesting stuff both above and below the surface, which is why people get into it. But holy fuck can it be a bear to get through sometimes.

Some of the remakes may give a chance to polish stuff up, there are more people on board now with talent, but fundamentally if you really want to get through all the originals I think to some extent one just has to man up and be prepared for some rough spots.
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>>119010438
Gilles de Rais best girl.
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>>119010404
Potnia Theron is Mycenaean in actual history, though.
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>>119010292
>do you have anything to back this up?
Every single release of F/SN post RN has been the RN version. With how Nasu is now going all-ages, it's probably going to be the version all events are based on from now on. Also, RN's name ties directly to LE, which embodies themes from the entire VN and acts as another definitive ending beside HF.

>>119010298
Well you have to understand that adapting a VN is never easy, especially when it has multiple routes.
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>Anime won't be enjoyable unless you've read the VN

But all my housemates are watching it and love it. Mainly because of the characters and plot. Nobody's commented on Tohsaka's thighs yet for some reason.

I think this anime's a little more accessible with how they've executed Shirou. It's pretty clear earlier on that his SEIGI NO MIKATA crap is the result of deep personal reasons/history, not shounen MC #23, making him more likeable because you know he's not simply stupid.

It takes a lot longer in the VN to realize how deep Shirou's mental damage runs.
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>>119010478
It's the only way to buy the game if you want it, really. They've updated the PC version with the CGs and voice acting. There's no reason at all to buy RN.
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>>119010543
>It takes a lot longer in the VN to realize how deep Shirou's mental damage runs.
It only takes 3/4th into Fate route and if you're observant, even earlier.
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>>119010476
They only had to adapt one route. Nobody asked for a Frankenstein's monster route.
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>>119010426
re-reading the VN and then the manga and finishing it all off with a rewatch of the series.
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>>119010426
hopefully finish a nicer version of the manga
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What happened if she summoned as evil spirit?
Other then being stronger of course.
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>>119010610
Nothing really. She just becomes a bit more yandere is all.
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>>119010452
>I still don't know who that is.

Which one? The literal semen demon? Final boss of Fate/CCC, a human magus that aspired to become a god, and indeed became something Nasu puts on par with an elder god after back-stabbing her way to glory throughout the plot. Power levels became universal for a bit there, but due to her own stupidity among other things the protagonist and his servant who had reached the root were (sorta) were barely able to put her under. Compared to the main boss of the game, she isn't as well liked for a few reasons. Demon makes up for it by having probably the best servant in Fate to date, who despite not being able to fight is a fusion of Dio Brando and Kotomine.
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>>119010543
>It takes a lot longer in the VN to realize how deep Shirou's mental damage runs.
Not sure I entirely agree with you there, at least not if we're talking UBW route. See >>119009612, I thought how Shirou acted at school under Blood Fort was one of the big underlines of This Dude Is Fucked Up. I agree ufo has done a solid job overall and there's lots of genuine improvements as well as subtle hints, but if I hadn't gone in knowing he was distorted and watching for how they handled it I don't know if I'd have noticed as clearly all the times his reactions are "off" or know why.
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The (ufotable) UBW Anime vs VN is a textbook example of the Pareto Principle.

Same with Zero, and a number of other series which get adaptations.

But there's a lot of people who don't like to acknowledge this
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>>119010670
I would kill for a CCC translation.
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>>119010583
You're disillusion if you think that is the case, who do you think they make anime adaptions for anyway? You think the fans would by the dvds if they didn't pay homage to their waifus? It's the same with every VN->Anime adaption.
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>>119010361
And the second Saber H-scene was actually pretty sweet. It wasn't nearly as awkward as all the others, and fit in pretty well. With mana transfer being a simple excuse of what Shirou was aiming for in the first place instead of the primary reason. IIRC he wants to fuck and Saber reacts something like
>I, uh, totally don't wanna fuck, but I'd get mana for it so... Yeah, let's say that's why

It was happy not-forced-because-of-the-situation sex and they were both trying to make the other party as pleased as possible during the act. Three-way was out of nowhere, Tohsaka's scene was really forced, and Sakura's were just... Fuck off slut.

Saber's second H scene is the only one I'd keep if I adapted RN. Though it'd just fade to black and be implied.
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>>119010726
F/SN only has 3 routes, each one of them is long enough to be a self-contained VN. Smashing all 3 routes together is impossible unless you're doing 4 cour at least.
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Fate would be better if the H-scenes were retroactively wiped from canon. But that would require Nasu admitting he can't write human interaction for shit; a blow to his ego on multiple levels
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>>119008551
>Lancer uses Gay Bulge on Saber
>oh her luck was too high
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>>119010236
I actually like the idea of the King Protea servant. And given the context of the Type Moon world it kind of makes sense that such a spirit existed.

The thing that gets me is that King Protea is more or less Pun-Pun of D&D. And that's just amuses me somehow. I can't deny that I like it.
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>>119010786
Except that's not how it happened.
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>>119010776
>Smashing all 3 routes together is impossible unless you're doing 4 cour at least.
Which why is always fails
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Reminder that the "There is an exception to every rule" line was Breaking The Third Wall because that's Nasu's writing and plot style
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>>119010251
Fuck you for making me waste my time looking for this. The scene is literally the same, the only difference is that the attempted rape is removed and now Shinji just beats up and insults Sakura until she's had enough and kills him.

I wanted to believe and you lied to me.
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>>119010786
>Lancer literally could have just bulged her again if it weren't for the command spell
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With how popular Fate/Stay Night is becoming again and the fact the the Steins;Gate Game came out and soon Clannad, what are the chances of getting Fate/Stay Night ported to the west?
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>>119010735
This is pretty much how I felt, I never really had a problem with the H scenes in Tsukhime because they seemed to suit the tone better. Still, I don't really enjoy H scenes all that much, if I want to fap to some OTT hentai I'll go watch some hentai.
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>>119010860
If it's not ported now, it will probably never be. Unless it happens as some kind of shovelware in the next century after Type-Moon have died.

So it likely won't happen. Any publisher that could localize it are unusually busy with other things.
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>>119010860
Fate Zero was popular, not Fate S/N. I can't tell you the number of people I know who've watched Zero without knowing anything about the series prior.
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>>119010860
I don't think Type Moon even cares there's a western market, have they ever brought anything over? Not counting animu like F/Z and Prisma.
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>>119008819
I'm not a doctor but that seemed to be more that 4 times the amount of blood that could even potentially be carried within a body that small.
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>>119009591
>>119009437
Shirou is the shiro man
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>>119010944
Your normalfag secondary friends are not relevant m8
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>>119010944
This. After Fate/Zero it's popularity erupted and people who like F/Z consistently shit on F/SN because F/Z is "so much more MATURE and DARK" and whatever.
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It only counts as the Primary Material if you read it in Japanese.
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>>119010844
>Saber could have just killed him before he set up to try it again
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>>119010413
>Everything is fucking canon.

Nasu notes there are some rules regarding time-lines, such as "Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai can't happen in the same world-line". Saying that everything is real isn't maximum pandering, rather it allows him to tell any type of story he wants and fans don't have to be stupidly autistic with "The thing I like is real, the thing you like is fake and stupid, only the original story is canon and should be talked about. Everything else is garbage and pandering fake.".

In this set up no one is below anyone, everything is allowed to be talked about, everything advances the total universe, and some people fucking hate this.

SInce Kagetsu or before, he's always had a policy of not alienating people so much. He won't even say that Kagetsu or Ataraxia takes place after a single route, and only that route is the canon ones while the other ones never happened. Instead he just leaves certain shit vague and lets the readers draw their own conclusions.
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>>119010980
>>119010972
Reminder that Fate/Zero is one of the greatest selling anime series of all time and UBW isn't going to sell anywhere near as much.

Remember you can't write it off as "I-Irrelevant western N-normies"
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>>119010959

Fate/Extra got carried over by Aksys Games.

But that decision may have been from Marvelous Entertainment, the japanese publisher, rather than Type-Moon.
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>>119011010
>and UBW isn't going to sell anywhere near as much.
[citation needed]
Far as I recall the pre-orders alone already made the anime a smashing success.
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>>119011003
>Having a realistic canon instead of a garbage "Choose your own Headcanon" is Autistic
Cool beans.

It's completely artistically bankrupt and this is the kind of shit that a money grubbing Jew could only dream of -- pander to everyone and bend the rules of reality to make ~everything~ real and canon even when it's contradictory
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>>119011017
Yeah, that's the same reason I don't count F/Z since that was probably an Aniplex decision. I don't know if TM itself has even acknowledged the western fanbase.
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>>119011050
~20k << 56k
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Is it Homurabara or Homurahara? I don't get why F/HA has it as homurabara
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>>119010735
>Tohsaka's scene was really forced
I am not really inclined to agree. There were other methods to go about things. Sex was just a very easy and efficient method. And then add to it that Rin was actually interested in Shirou sexually, even though she most likely wouldn't have suggested it that early in their relationship without outside pressure such as the grail war.

But my point is that Rin suggested having sex with Shirou because she was actually interested in having sex with Shirou. And Shirou threw out the excuse of doing it for energy, out the window the moment they started. Stating that he was only interested in an act of love. Making Rin all embarrassed before she jumped on Shirou.

And then they had super awkward teenage virgin sex. Which was sweet in itself.
But then people all go on and on about how it was all rape and horrible and stuff.
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>>119010984
>mfw people shit on secondaries when they haven't even read the VN in it's original language
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>>119010376
>We need to sustain the ginger's magic
>Today I am #26 in line
>I must appear before the ginger at 11AM
>He needs my mana
>He bends over, and beckons me
>I start the process, reminding myself that If I fail the mana transfer the ginger's magic sword world will collapse and we will all die in the vacuum of space
>I penetrate him easily
>I try to hurry, if I don't finish the transfer fast enough we could all die
>I slow down, I don't think I can do this
>"Mana doesn't transfer itself," the ginger says
>I try to mutter an excuse, but he stops me
>"Just imagine Tohsaka's Anus," the ginger says
>If I knew the person he was speaking of, maybe I could finish fast enough
>I pull out, and he turns around, saying
>"You must sheathe your sword inside of me now, or we will all die! Keeping my Reality Marble up requires constant mana!"
>I take a step back, and he starts to spasm
>Metal shards start to force their way out of his skin, and I know the world will collapse soon
>I accept my fate, even though I will die when I am killed
>The world around me disappears, and as I see everyone on the ship gasping for air, one unknown ginger rides forward on a chariot pulled by a pair of Oxen.
>This new ginger creates a new world, and all but the old ginger, now made completely of swords, have survived.
>"I am your new ginger king!" he proclaims loudly.
>Thousands of soldiers appear from the horizon
>"These are my men," the new ginger yells for all to hear, "and they share my burden in keeping this world active."
>fuck
>"My men need your mana, and we outnumber your men 3 to 1. Each man here will be paired to 3 soldiers, and will need to replenish thier mana supplies daily. Of course, you will ALL replenish my mana as well, for I am the King!" our new dictator declares
>The ginger king points to me, and then says "You, I like you. You will service me, and my oxen.
>mfw
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>>119011078

The BD sets don't come out till, like, march. Not every copy is going to be a preorder.
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>>119010805
People in general hopefully like King Protea, shit is too absurd and spectacular in a way to be hated.

The concept is insane, the power is insane, the personality is insane, the scope of it all takes it so many steps further.

It's not something you overuse, but whenever it shows up shit goes wild.
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>>119010959
The market for animu in the west is considered 'niche' - which is the bussinessy way of saying 'they just don't give a flying fuck'.
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Wait, sense the basic rules of Logic don't apply in the Nasuverse, and contradictions are simultaneously true and false -- What is the basis of logic (and mathematical) reasoning?

Has he ever laid down some philosophical truths that grant his self-titled-universe any degree of verisimilitude, or did he just abandon the pretence of it altogether?
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>>119011094
ほむらばら or ほむらはら 

look the same to me
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>>119009698
Depends if you want to engross yourself in more of the same stuff. I finished the VN before the UBW adaptation started and i feel like i've enjoyed it more because i was able to get a ton of information about Shirou and other things in the fateverse that can't completely be fleshed out in the anime.

I don't really think you NEED to read the vn to enjoy it, but i think it would let you enjoy it a little bit more.
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>>119010860
TM would want a ton of money for localization rights so probably 0%
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>>119011133
That's literally 90%+ of /a/ and the EOPrimaries in these threads.

Disgusting, isn't it? All these pots calling the kettles black
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>>119010959
The event where they revealed UBW/HF was internationally streamed. Which isn't much but shows they care.

Plus Aniplex cares about bringing stuff over. This doesn't matter much for the VN, but I guarantee HF will get a limited theater release (like evangelion/madoka movies) in the west.
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>>119010944
>not Fate S/N
DEEN's adaptation is one of the very best selling anime of all time. Up there with SEED and the other giants.
F/Z can't even compete.
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>>119011133
>>119011206
>>119010984

>1 : Primary
>1.5 : ????
>2 : Secondary
>3 : Tertiary
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>>119011140
>mana doesn't transfer itself
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>>119011180
The industry is full of dropouts and people who never went to college to begin with. You can't squeeze blood from a rock.
Listening to the Stein's gate bullshit-fest makes me want to cut myself.
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>>119011180
It's all concepts, mysteries, and breaking rules better than the other dude does.
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>>119011129
>But then people all go on and on about how it was all rape and horrible and stuff.
Oh, it wasn't quite rape, I don't think.

But it WAS uncomfortable for me to read, at least. It was not pleasant for Rin at all.

That being said, her HA scene was amazing and completely made up for the uncomfortable FSN one.
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>>119011241
But that was almost 10 years ago, I was talking about recent years.
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>>119011180

Contradictions are forbidden in Type-Moon. Any that are created are resolved as a matter of power.

Always-hits meets always-blocks, they get measured for which one has more plot juice, victor of the measurement wins out.
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Kanshou & Bakuya Overedge
User: Archer

A version of Kanshou & Bakuya used by Archer in the undescribed battle against Berserker in Fate route. Using reinforcement magecraft, the blades have been completely transformed into long swords.

By the way, while the story of Ganjiang and Moye has survived to this day, there is no mention of what kind of swords they actually were. The assumption is that they were cast swords, as was common in that time period. Even their shape is a mystery, as the only known description of the swords simply says that Ganjiang had a black tortoise shell pattern and Moye had a white wave pattern.
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>>119000157
>Rin decides she wants to go on a date with Shirou
>after she realizes who Archer really is
>You'll grow really tall and handsome, Shirou, I promise!
Bitch was mostly interested because she saw his future was being dreamy.
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>>119011262
But a bunch of (literal) amateurs making a one-off movie in a format that doesn't even require or even lend itself to wordy explanations could pull off a logically consistant explanation of typically written-off-as `It just werks` / `A wizard did it` esque plot devices Primer could do it for timetravel, surely Nasu should be able to pull it off as he's had over a decade to come up with something
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>>119011316
Does this hold true for ranked concepts?

For example, an always-block at, say, Rank A, against an always-hit at Rank C or whatever.

In terms of rank/power, the block should overpower the attack, but in terms of concepts, what if the attack is technically superior to the block?
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Has anyone played the PC release of Realta Nua?
Does it have some kind of DRM?
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Dirk
User: True Assassin

Daggers carried by True Assassin. Specialized for use as projectiles. Because the tip of the blade is hooked, it is hard to remove them once they’ve hit their target.

Originally, “Dirk” was the name of a type of thrusting dagger traditionally used in Scotland, which were imprinted with Celtic designs and patterns. They were used as actual weapons until around the 18th century, after which they were relegated to ceremonial uses. Also, once Scotland was incorporated into the British Empire the dirk was adopted as a weapon in the armed forces and navy.

By the way, if anybody actually called these “Darks” they’d look pretty silly. Thankfully that would never happen.

Right?
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>>119011381
>Visual novel
>DRM
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>>119011380

No. What matters is the strength of the "divine mystery", which is not equitable to the rank.
Mystery as a measurement is not given to the players, although as a general rule older things have more mystery.
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>>119011381
>>119011411
>Non-Free Proprietary Obfuscated Malicious Malware Botnet Garbage
>Somehow not having `DRM`
Choose one.

If you're going to run this blasphemous binary code, you ought to do it in a virtualized Jail where it can Do No Harm to anything else on your computer.
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>>119011429
That doesn't sound right. Magecraft are divine mysteries and they offer you up statements about the Rank of spells and magecraft all the fucking time.
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>>119011129
I didn't know anyone called it rape.
>Sex was her idea
>Tohsaka literally asks for it
>Initiates it
>Is incredibly into it for most of it
>Caves into the JACKHAMMER
>Bitches about how it hurt when she came hard

Always seemed like a tsundere sex reaction to me. How could anyone associate that with rape? And I was the one who said it felt forced.
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>>119011180
>Has he ever laid down some philosophical truths that grant his self-titled-universe any degree of verisimilitude, or did he just abandon the pretence of it altogether?
King Arthur is a 14-year-old schoolgirl who calls herself fucking 'English'.
You can probably figure out which is it based on that.
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>>119010984
>>119011133
While I can sympathise with your points, and am inclined to agree a lot of the time. With it probably being true much more often than not with F/SN provided the translation.

But as I have actually translated stuff myself I can say quite confidently that people having read stuff in its original language does not necessarily mean that they have had a truer experience. As it comes down to mastery of hte language in the end anyway.
You can translate something with a good translation and having people read it and discuss the work going off of the translation. And if the translation is good they may actually understand the work quite proficiently.
And then you compare it with the haughty and high and mighty guy that has read the work in its original story, only to be shown having lacking mastery of the language and having gotten tons of shit wrong that the people with no mastery never missed as they actually read a good translation translated by someone of a proficient mastery.

But sure. Generally speaking the original is always greater than the localization. Provided you actually master the language and aren't just a poser that's halfway there.
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>>119011180

... what? The basic rules of logic absolutely apply in the Nasuverse, they even apply to the fucking magic. The magic is basically weaponized math in this setting. There are exactly two things that break logic, Reality marbles because they make their own rules because they're alternate worlds, and True Magic because it specifically is "true," because it defies logic.

Why does this setting attract so many smug ass lit majors who feel the need to drop bait on its fans? Because the characters have some modicum of depth in comparison to its contemporaries, or because the plot actually takes a fraction of it's run-time for some philosophical musing and then invites the reader to draw his own conclusions instead of telling you what is right?

Just because we can appreciate a story that doesn't think it's audience are retards and is willing to offer them the bare minimum of intellectual challenge doesn't mean we think it's fucking Dostoyevsky.
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Did you forget about Aoko?
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>>119011491
Yep, she loved it.
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>>119011544
I'm always trying to.
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>>119011540
Because Nasu's claim that "Simultaneous ends-of-routes and routes are canon even if contradictory"
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http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=427133&showfiles=1

well you do need some kind of crack to play this. Anyway, I remember trying to play this back in the day when I was a EOP, but never could get myself to finish it. Is Fate worth my time now? I think I'll just jump to UBW
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>>119011544
Get out of here.
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>>119011578
>please don't get mad at me for saying your favourite route isn't the canon one
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>>119011500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwGZinTeodc
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>>119011544
I will never forget those tits and how I want to fuck them.
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>>119011544
>forgetting about best girl's best girls
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>>119011603
Nice shitpost. This has nothing to do with your route, it has to do with the fact Nasu is an omnipandering hack who defies basic logical reasoning to make sure nobody gets offended or "loses" so they keep giving him money no matter who their waifu is
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>>119011544
You deserve to be forgotten.
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>>119011491
She also had to cum at the same time as him to complete the contract, as she herself mentions. Ataraxia confirms that she's a masochist by nature, even if her role can change depending on the situation. In Fate route she had to try to be the up front one because these kids weren't going to be able to pull it off because of her, but naturally she's the submissive one who can get off to a bit of pain.
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>>119011544
Can someone tell me the story on why this game hasn't been translated yet? It's in the big three: Fate, Tsukihime and Mahoyo
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>>119011578
citation needed
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>>119010426
Nanaya: Oh? So then after winning you were too scared to check if she was dead and just ran away?

Well, it doesn’t really matter. Even if being cowardly is your disposition, lacking courage is no laughing matter. Or, maybe this whole situation is?

White Len: Whatever the case, please stop. I managed to sever the original bonds, so you have no complaints, right?

Nanaya: No, but it does replace it with another problem. Well, let me assure you, I am just overjoyed to have more inconveniences to take care of.

White Len: …… You are saying too much. You are the one I chose, so can you not be a little more respectful? Or do you want to just disappear?

Nanaya: Well, go ask that to the world. I only do what I can do.

I am good at doing, you are good at using. Didn’t you betray your old masters for the sake of effectiveness?

White Len: I, I didn’t do it for you! Y-you are just the one in this town I have the least objections about! Don’t get the wrong idea!

Nanaya: Oh, how scary. Okay, I’ll be a proper master-oh man. I’m not even sure which of us is the familiar, though.
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>>119011578

Do you honestly not comprehend the concept of parallel worlds? One of the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FIGURES IN THE SETTING IS A TRANSDIMENSIONAL TRAVELER. This isn't something he came up with to "not make people mad," it's an integral part of the whole premise.

It takes a lot of balls for someone to call someone else shit at writing when a 50+ year old science fiction concept that most tweens can comprehend is beyond you.

Or maybe you're just one of those Star Trek assholes who thinks that the episode with all the parallel Worfs literally ruins everything Star Trek forever because IF THERE'S INFINITE ALTERNATES THEN NOTHING IS SPECIAL or whatever other nonsense.
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>>119011737
Because Takajun is kill. RIP in peace you hero
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>>119011778
It's not about that faggot.

It's about "Simultaneous routes within UBW are true"
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>>119011590
>Is Fate worth my time now? I think I'll just jump to UBW
If you haven't actually read Fate, don't skip it. Neither DEEN's adaptation nor F/Z or the UBW adaptation covers what it covers.
And chances are it won't feel like DEEN's adaptation anyway. So it won't just be going through "the same thing" again. If that's what you are worried about.
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>>119011737
first of all because it hard, and secondly because it's bad

the translator had troubles translating, and then herkz and moogy made fun of the weak translation and now it's pretty much stopped.
and nobody else wants to pick it up because it isn't very good.
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>>119011818
>herkz and moogy


Has there ever been a translation they didn't bitch about?
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>>119011737
Wasn't Commie translating it or something? What happened?

inb4 >Commie
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>>119011818
Why does anyone even associate with #tlwiki at all?
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>>119011796

Your beef is that the True End and the Good End of UBW both happened? Also all the Bad Ends? How is that not relevant to the Parallel Worlds point? That's the fucking DEFINITION of Parallel Worlds. All those ends are reached by making choices, of course they're all canon because THEY ALL HAPPEN IN DIFFERENT TIMELINES.

How the fuck is that pandering? I can't even wrap my head around the warped thinking that it takes to consider different choices resulting in different consequences as "creatively bankrupt."
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>>119011777
Holy shit someone else besides me likes or at least remembers them.
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>>119011483

Ranks of spells and noble phantasms just refers to the grandness of their effects. It doesn't tell you anything about the depth of their mystery.
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>>119011796
>The visual novel stresses infinite parallel worlds
>People bitch about different parallel worlds being different

Okay
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>>119011946
>How the fuck is that pandering? I can't even wrap my head around the warped thinking that it takes to consider different choices resulting in different consequences as "creatively bankrupt."
Anon you're responding too is yet another in an endless line of tryhard retards. There is no helping or arguing with him.
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>>119011957
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>>119011679
>naturally she's the submissive one
I personally think she's more of a switch, basically because of
>her role can change depending on the situation
This, pretty much.
Aside from the scene in Fate, the same HA scene you mentioned had her assuming a more dominant role by the end of it too.
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>>119012096
Her nature clearly goes more to one side, even if she can play the other if she needs/wishes to do that much.
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>>119011777
Nanaya: How wonderful.
-I finally get to meet you, Crimson Red Vermillion.

I’ve never felt such pleasure before. It seems we both have been waiting for today.

Kouma: -I would be lying if I didn’t say I wanted this.

Very well. Anytime you’re ready.

Nanaya: Ah, a brain-frying fight to the death!

Ending

Ah-nothing left.

Something that never existed has to gain something before it can lose it……

At least, that’s what I thought, but this sucks.

I don’t want to disappear like this. I didn’t think I would fear death.

Ah, that’s why-
Once I die, I can’t kill anyone.
There’s only dead people on the other side.

It’s not fun……
but, I guess it’s a fitting punishment.

That’s fine,
I’ll just have to disappear miserably like this.
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>>119012137

It's almost like she's a fairly three-dimensional and realistic character or something.
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>>119012096
>had her assuming a more dominant role by the end of it too.

That was so fucking hot. Why did the scene have to end there.
>Rin sudden babby craze
>Shirou quite possibly knocks up Rin, feels bad man
>She pulls him into a deep kiss, then spreads her still-leaking vag and gives him a look, waiting for round 2 to ensure babby making

I could not take it. Tohsaka can be too much.
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>>119012172
>Desires and style changing depending on the sex scene makes someone a 3D character.

That feels the same as saying Gilgamesh is 3D as a character, because in Fate route he's all about Saber and nothing else, in UBW he's not about Saber at all but rather saving humanity by killing them, and in HF he's about saving humanity because only he can kill them. His desires, motives, and ideals change based on the route in order to play foil to the heroes.
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>>119011946
>Also all the Bad Ends?
https://www.youtube.com/v/mbSDiFihwXs?version=3&vq=hd720
>Shirou reaching HF True
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>>119012172
Characters by rank in quality of character

Archer > Illya > Kotomine > Rin > Shirou > Saber > Zouken > Sakura > Caster > Numerous likeable characters that never got the detail they needed but were fixed in F/HA like Lancer, Caster, and Kuzuki
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>>119012166
>>119011777
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>>119012137
>even if she can play the other if she needs/wishes to do that much.
So a switch. Still, I can agree she's generally more inclined to the submissive side.
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>>119012311
Lancer was already much more awesome than Gil, Caster, Sakura and Zouken in the original fsn
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>>119012260
>in Fate route he's all about Saber and nothing else
False. His desire to "fix" humanity is still there and he rants plenty about it.
>in UBW he's not about Saber at all but rather saving humanity by killing the
He's not all about Saber because he sees her far less often and is rarely in a situation where they can talk much. And again, he sticks to his "save humanity by getting rid of the shitty ones".
>and in HF he's about saving humanity because only he can kill them
What's that? Gilgamesh being possessive and egotistical, not wanting some dumb wormslut stealing his thunder? Yeah, how unlike him. Gilgamesh would totally sit back and watch someone do/take what he wants.
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>>119012260

I would think that the same character changing his priorities in different situations is the definition of being three-dimensional as long as those alterations can be reconciled with his basic characteristics and aren't a massive departure.

Gilgamesh was more obsessive over Saber in Fate because circumstances don't give him much else to do and Shirou's affections are targeting her more explicitly. In UBW things force him to pay attention to different things so he has less time to obsess over her, and Shirou isn't pursuing her as openly or doggedly.

Also, Gilgamesh being flighty and allow himself to be distracted from one of his treasures by other interesting things is hardly shocking or out of line for him. In Fate almost everyone and everything else was already resolved when he showed up, in UBW he takes the stage much earlier so he has to deal with Berserker, pretending to be Shinji's servant, Kotomine's faked death, and other shit that eats his attention up.
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>>119012263

I'd play Super Sword Boy.
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>People are talking about the characters and story
>No powerlevels
>No waifuwars

I am proud to be in a good FSN thread.
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>>119012263
Meat Boy is such a gary stu. Surviving all those dangers flawlessly.
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>>119012346
I'd say anyone who isn't 100% M or S could play their role dependent on the mood, but they'd still be an M or an S. If you're over 60% in one category though you are in that category, rather than being a switch who goes both ways and has no real preference, everything depends on the mood. Also the type who goes one way unless you flip them around.

Tohsaka is an M, she could go on top at times if she needed, but she's still in that camp. Anyone who isn't "All or nothing" into one side could switch depending on the play at the moment. However with M or S you do see a lot of those extremes types that are in the 90% or more category and are committed to being only that.

It's a percentage area, 90% or more means you'll be entirely in a certain style and won't change. 10% and under in either category means you have no real preference or can go either way even more than normal. 11% - 89% you're in an area pretty well, clearly have a preference, but can still play in both camps a bit depending.
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>>119012484
>>119012263
Fund it

And unlike meatboy, if Shirou falls too far he takes fall damage by means of swords everywhere.
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I want to translate a TM manga and need a guide to replacing the text. Anyone want to help a noob?
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>>119012677
Use Photoshop, duplicate the layer, erase text on original image using whatever tool you have preference towards, put in new text.
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>>119000157
>mfw LiSA's cover of "This Illusion"
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>>119012677
Probably not much help. But here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ib9pXogVYA
Having the raws as separate layer to toggle back and forth for reference is an advice I could recommend though at the very least.
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>>119012726 >>119012841
Thanks. I have a question regarding the fonts. Which do I want to use? I understand there are different fonts for different text but I'd like to know which ones are best.
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>>119012563
Could you say then, based on those observations, that an M could have S urges? Since Shirou does mention that as the reason she switched over her role in the Ataraxia scene.

Also, the fact that she hasn't admitted yet that she's an M, since it's a more subconscious thing for her, I assume it's also being accounted for on those points.

Not trying to discredit anything here, by the way, in case I'm giving away that vibe.
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>>119013210
>Could you say then, based on those observations, that an M could have S urges? Since Shirou does mention that as the reason she switched over her role in the Ataraxia scene.

Probably, as long as you aren't all the way in one category you're still partway into open waters.

>Also, the fact that she hasn't admitted yet that she's an M, since it's a more subconscious thing for her, I assume it's also being accounted for on those points.

I think you'd have to be rather far along in one direction to openly admit that that you're something in general. There are people that lean a direction, but in order to say "I'm this" you have to be decently committed about it, and have some real understanding.

People can have sadistic or masochistic urges or impulses without it defining them, very rarely are people all the way into one camp. Like all fetishes it's usually about preference, as in "How" do you like it.

Usually characters can lean to one side, there are often characters that seem to lean to one side but are really the other as well, like the smiling onee-san type who seems friendly but is really a bit brutal. That one is pretty common, just like Rin who seems dominate outside of the bedroom is really submissive in the bedroom. In general reversal types are popular, it's what the gap rule is all about. Sometimes you don't really know what's underneath until you start melting away the layers.
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