Why is Seibah so lewd?
>still liking Rin
I seriously hope you guys don't do this
>Not liking Rin 2004+10
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>arousal caused by or associated with ovulation.
Ah anon, it seems that you've finally realized the best thing about genki-girls!
>It's basically arousal caused by or associated with ovulation.
Wait, that was the point? I am a fucking retard.
Who cares about the reasons, the important thing is that we like them!
What does it mean?!
Why did Shirou not even try to defend himself or use projection in that entire encounter with Medea?
Look, Ufotable was just making shit up, okay? This was all supposed to happen in his living room and there was no fight, but they had to have some sort of action scene for the season finale. Roll with it.
Uh, except that happens pretty much the same in the VN. Saber charges at Rin and Shirou just jumps in the way to block her. It was actually a bit more brutal originally.
What do you think?
>Marrying a rhino
At least I'm marrying a human.
You're technically marrying a dead person.
Archer's still worried about Taiga.
How the bloody fuck didn't they get married?
Did Archer and Taiga hook up in his timeline? I hope so. I hope we get to see it even more so.
He fakes being dead. Rin asks Caster if she checked his pulse or something, saying Kotomine doesn't die when he's killed, etc.
Since Kotomine quite seriously doesn't have real heart, he can fake it real good.
>DEEN OPENING AS ED THEME
Do you people still think that shit is better than F/Zero?
Oh boy. Listen boy, you ought to delete your post.
All aboard the hype train.
So what's the date of the next episode? I heard something about april.
In archer's timeline he probably watched everyone die around him as his need to save people inevitably caused them to die. Taiga was the last one left but she too got cut down by the inquisition squad we see in the dream, causing him to snap, his ideals shattering, and ending humanity.
You did it again and everyone fell for it.
>but there is nothing wrong with Shiro in the first place
Maybe it's because I'm a saberfag, but is it just me or did Saber have more "cute" scenes than Rin did in the date? I'm not complaining since I loved it all, but I felt bad for Rin overall.
If Shirou is so "empty" and "broken", why is he able to fall in love with some random girl like a normal human being?
>broken human with survivor's guilt who feels guity in enjoying life and who makes stupid choices because he absolutely must sacrifice himself before anyone else may get hurt
Yeah, he's fiiiiine, he even lost Saber because he's so fine.
Did you miss the entire conversation that led to the date in the first place? You know, how he talked about how he only wanted others to feel happy? The whole point of the date was her wanting to make him happy for a change.
is this the place to post lovely women of fate
because i've got one
Everyone and their mother can tell there's something seriously fucked up about how his mind works from way before that. The first clue they get is when he rushes to save Saber in the graveyard battle at the beginning and it's pretty clear he's got a thing going on.
Rin decides on the date after Shirou explains plainly that he has no clue how to have fun since it's not something he thinks about.
They know he's nuts, she just doesn't realize to what extent until after Ilya is killed.
Did Shirou get cucked by a black version of himself?
I fap to her daughter on a daily basis.
Damn that episode was fucking bad, one of the worst cour endings i've ever seen.
Kirei was the only good part, and the ~5 seconds of Archer being Archer.
Here's hoping they stop fucking up in time for the 2nd half adaptation
>Date's going great
>Stage 2 of tsundere mating ritual success
>Jackhammer is in sight
>Heading back home
>Suddenly caster starts shit
>Rin takes off with Archer
>Tells Shirou he's worthless
Poor guy got NTR'd twice in one day.
>Not liking everything with Rin and Shirou
Rin and Seibah really have to be a package deal because they complement each other so well. Rin being gay for Seibah and Seibah's incredible competitive streak would result in mindblowing sex on a daily basis.
are you kidding me, she, a switch?
you're telling me someone who can take a mean pounding like that is a switch?
NASA, can you locate my sides please, I'll reward you handsomely
>Not being a Rinbro
>Not wanting to see Shirou go beyond being just a sword
>Not getting UBW
>Not getting that it's him learning to balance his ideals while also gaining some humanity in his life
Just sinking yourself deeper.
I'm a saberfag (and her batting moment was perfect) but Rin was great until she resumed tsun mode once Shirou started being nice. Maybe you just have to be able to appreciate her trolling.
Getting the story is cancerous?
UBW is about Shirou learning that while he most likely can't save everyone, it's not wrong to want to try, because there's beauty in helping people. At the same time he learns that in order to save everyone, he needs to save himself; that's where Rin comes in.
It was her putting on a tough face. I mean did you see Shirou? He was stumbling around and bleeding all over the place all the while saying he still wanted to fight. She was trying to keep him from getting killed.
they packed in some extra scenes for her this episode since she's going to be doing nothing but being "tortured" for the next half season and they wanted to appease the Saber fans before they start frothing at them mouth
Are you like 7? Anyways decent bait I guess.
There I just made it better.
UFOTABLE FUCKING WHY?
Why must you show such a beautiful sight to me only to take it away a few seconds later, never to be seen again?
should have picked the superior fate if you wanted glasses
>Kerry already lost hope in everything, his eyes being glazed over as always
>Taiga, being as bubbly as she is, keeps pushing him to try and do fun things
I can see comedic value in it.
I used to like Rin the most, and I still think she is one of the better tsunderes.
However, I think Shirou and Saber just complement each other more. It's even more obvious in other routes how much they do.
All in all, Shirou is the best girl.
>if i don't like something, it's a shitpost or a bait
is a hugbox all you know?
Rin is shit, only people who self insert into shirou like her
Almost exactly like how only people who self insert into shinji like Asuka.
Disagree. I like Shirou and Rin because they always have each other's backs. No matter the route and no matter the circumstances, they always end up helping each other.
Not trying to diss Saber, though.
You need more of Tohsaka's Anus in your life.
>not liking glasses
I think both of their relationships have good chemistry. However what I meant by Saber and Shirou being more complements is that it's kinda beautiful how both of their character motivations stems from them being completely selfless and at the end of both of their routes they both use each other to move on from their past etc etc. Not just Shirou likes cooking and Saber is a glutton.
Rin Tohsaka is nice, but whatever Rin does in whatever route she just Rin, she doesn't really change. Which is what her stick is. However, she doesn't particularly need Shirou like Saber does and we see how she marries for her duties or whatever.
>but whatever Rin does in whatever route she just Rin, she doesn't really change
But she does though. UBW has her growing to understand that the traditional set by her father and her family may not be the only way for things; she learns from Shirou's point, and how grew as a mage. I mean just an episode ago it had her talking about the benefits he had compared to her; his life was more open, less rigid and confined to tradition. Rin herself branches out in UBW because of her relationship with Shirou; I mean the fact that she falls in love with him a clue to that. He's a goddamn heretic.
And yeah, Shirou and Saber having the same ideals is great, but what i love about Rin and Shirou is the fact that she provides an outsider's perspective. You can't really get that with Saber or Sakura, since they have their own issues, but Rin clearly sees there's something wrong with Shirou, and wants to try her best to help him.
That's actually pretty wrong. And Shirou doesn't really have that much potential to boost the Tohsaka line.
Only one guy can pull these shit glasses off
>However, I think Shirou and Saber just complement each other more. It's even more obvious in other routes how much they do.
Is that your impression?
If anything, from all their squabbles with eachother to judge. I would be inclined to say that they compliment eachother the least of the three.
Not to say that Saber is a poor girl or character in general. But just overall the worst pairing with Shirou.
And unlike with say, Rin. Or Sakura too for that matter even though Sakura may be more jaded than Rin.
It doesn't feel like Saber's and Shirou's squabbles with eachother are mere teasing, which is very much so the impression one would have from the interactions between Shirou with Rin and Sakura.
As if Shirou and Saber have the most qualities about eachother that legitimately grinds eachothers' gears to the point of them both actually infuriating eachother to various extents. For whatever it's worth, Saber is also the only one in the story that without manipulation still legitimately goes out to kill Shirou with the intent to kill Shirou in a bad end. While Rin was never out to end Shirou's life. And Sakura was being manipulated.
Saber x Archeris better anyway.
Also partly because they honestly have less of the above mentioned problems with eachother.
This. Saber is better as a bro, Sakura and Rin are better life partners for Shirou.
Can we all agree that Deen's UBW was better than Ufoshit version?
I bet secondaries would disagree but who cares, right?
I'm saying Shirou impact on Rin's development as a character is very minor. I'll argue that Rin wasn't really that rigid in the first place, but even if that's false, she didn't need to fall in love with Shirou to get to that point..
They keep each other at check, is there something really wrong with that? Opposites don't attract, they both use each other to see the faults in their own ideals. Which is why I think they complement each other more.
Shirou and Saber's interaction is very genuine, and since Saber is a very old-fashioned person, she doesn't quite follow modern examples of teasing/sarcasm.
I like Shirou and Saber because they're very genuine and honest around eachother, they don't go word-dancing around what they're actually saying.
I do think Shirou and Rin are a better pair though.
>Saber x Archer is better anyway.
Man I really want Saber and Archer to have more scenes together. The only times they speak to eachother are in very serious circumstances.
>shirou whimpering fuji-nee as he holds her in his arms ;_;
That really caught me off guard. He sounded genuinely broken up.
Is this what Kiritsugu would sound like when he found Shirou?
I'd also argue Rin is the only person that sees something deep inside Shirou has died, even before this is revealed to her by Caster.
Saber has probably seen plenty (given her history) of men who have lost parts of themselves during her time as a leader, so she's less affected/prepared to deal with it. It's more a fact of life to her.
I don't know if RinXShirouXSaber is a solid pairing (despite their mutual sexual interest in one another) but I do think it works as the only real "family" in FSN, which could be why a lot of people see them as a couple/triad.
Sakura has her own journey outside this sort of family, and while she doesn't really function well as a love interest, (because since both her and Shirou have entire parts of themselves they have lost) her desire for Shirou makes sense. Her desire for a person like Shirou makes sense, I should say.
Emiya Shirou will turn his mind to steel
and become a super hero.
That bitch needed three kings, kiritsugu, and then his son to fucking realize she was chasing after something stupid.
I am not going to critique any character relationships here.
But what is your point really? Saber doesn't actually need to fall in love with Shirou either.
Unlike Archer who ended up in an endless hell that deteriorated his mental state.
Saber's destination is the paradise of Avalon, where she will rest for whatever time is needed. Mended by fairies and by large being rejuvenating to her mental state.
So even without Shirou, Saber will eventually enter paradise and earn her temporal peace.
And Saber is old. She has already lived a great life. She could have died by that tree after the battle of Camlann without even being summoned to any grail wars, and it would have been a great life. And whether or not Saber realizes that with Shirou or later in her life. Her end still looks promising.
>Emiya doesn't actually experience anything on the throne.
Nor is he ever just in the throne. An infinite number of copies of him are replicated and summoned to various places in space and time between worlds. Simultaneously. And that he experiences even if his memories of it all are fragmented from having been summoned infinitely.
Hey anon, I see you have an erection.
Here, don't be shy.
The ugly CG-water shouldn't be allowed.
And they should also stop talking. WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS and they are saying literally nothing.
I'm not even a super fan of Saber, and I knew it was coming, but how long do we have to watch her suffer during this route?
I mean think about it
>Gets told by Caster her master's morbid past, with a story that both informs her of Shirou's trauma and parts of Kiritsugu she never understood/knew. Realizes she is partly wrong about both of them.
>Forced to kill her friend Rin/forced to kill her Master/is now a threat to the people she is closest with
>Forced to work for Caster
It's not right. It's a terrible feeling to end this course with.
Is Kirei a /fit/izen?
I bet you're one of those guys who posts screencaps and asks stupid questions that a shitload of people call you a faggot for and explain what's going on because you don't like to read.
>And that he experiences even if his memories
They aren't memories and are not experienced by him. It is just information to EMIYA. Information that cannot be processed until he is summoned into a body for the holy grail war. A soul alone has no sense of self.
The real self on the throne can receive the data of his summoned selves.
Souls do have senses of self in Type-Moon, this is important because it is how the third true magic operates.
Are there seriously people here who have such a dirty, disgusting , cheap, men-for-money-peasing whore as their waifu?
What happened during that scene? It was like the anime was made back in the 90s/00s, by a completely different staff who remembered what shadows and no-shitty-coloring is.
Too bad it lasted 10 seconds, 'casue having the whole cour looking like that would have totally improved this (supposed) high-budget anime that looks like shit most of the time.
>until he is summoned into a body for the holy grail war
But the point is that he is always summoned. To an infinite number of places even. Simultaneously even.
He is always summoned.
You have it backwards. The third sorcery operates by allowing a soul a sense of self when there shouldn't be one.
Because he was summoned into a body for the holy grail war and processed the fact that his soul is stuck in an infinite hell.
>Had swords pierced trough the shoulder.
>Can still do this
DROPPED, F/Z WAS BETTER ALL ALONG.
>from Kinoko nasu twitter trans:
>And here we have the familiar Tohsaka basement. If this were Dark Souls, there'd be a hidden passage somewhere.
inb4 Lancer vs Archer turns into a rollfest
>You mean like in HF?
Reminder that Sakura sympathized with Shinji and never wanted for him to die even though he crossed a line.
Reminder that Sakura remembers the people who perished from when she was under the influence of evil.
Reminder that while Shirou chose Sakura, the lives he could not protect is still something he feels.
Reminder that Shirou died and is in a puppet body.
It's true that by that point both of them are so horribly broken that they can't possibly even have a semblance of normalcy without eachother and would not be able to live properly neither alone nor with anyone else.
But it doesn't really change how everything is just more broken in general by the end of HF, even if they managed to glue together a very an admittedly very impressive ending for themselves with room for happiness by the end of HF.
HF's ends really are just more somber in general. They become happy, yes. And it's sure a finale that goes out with a bang. But fuck it if HF is still not fucked even with the miracles they claimed for themselves.
I have to say that I really understand Nasu when he argues for why he felt writing HF True into the story the way he did was necessary. Because even despite HF True being a thing, it honestly still kind of feels more somber than the ends of the other routes. Because even if their happiness may be genuine, there is still some feeling of them being happy despite of all that has happened, as opposed to having found wings, soaring the skies. It may be a very pessimistic look on things, but it feels more like they are people who found common grounds on the ground, building happiness of their own on the ground while trying to mend eachother in an attempt to eventually possibly get back their wings in order to soar in the sky. But still on the ground, struggling, as opposed to soaring. No matter if they found happiness.
In that sense the other ends felt more "alive" if I were to say so myself.
At the last scene, when Shirou pulled the jewel out of his pocket, does Shirou know that Rin did that just to protect him? Or he thinks she's kinda mean? If he knows Rin's motive, maybe he is not so dense after all.
It really depends what type of bread it was.
Quality bread has crusts for a reason. It gives a differing texture, as well as a degree of structural integrity to both the loaf and single slice. That shitty mass produced store bought shit like wonderbread may as well not have a crust as it's so soft it provides next to nothing to the bread.
That's the result of swordcancer brain damage lingering on his soul, remember? Projection was wreaking havoc on his mind. He would've lost those memories even if some miracle allowed him to survive at the altar of the great grail.
>Oh, you actually lift?
>Unexpected, though in retrospect it makes sense.
>can't third sorcery retrieve those memories?
Maybe the true perfect form of it could, but Illyasviel only had it for a moment and only had enough time to cast a single spell.
>and does his new body still contain avalon's sheathe
No. That would remain buried with the statue-like sword husk.
That, however, is part of his soul and comes with him.
How does one destroy the throne, and to stop the infinitely, endless suffering that a sahvanto has to go through?
>He would've lost those memories even if some miracle allowed him to survive at the altar of the great grail.
I don't think we even know this. Archer's arm and the projection did indeed erase his memories, but I personally always had the impression that it was purely a physical thing. Like when overcasted by doing projection in previous routes. Screwing over his nervous system, and even resulting in Archer messing up his arm in his life.
But on an even more severe level, frying his brain in addition to whatever other nerve paths are fried.
If someone shot you in the head, giving you brain damage. Chances are good you would have severe and irreversible amnesia. But the same could be said about death. Death kills the brain technically erasing 100% of the brain's memories.
The way I understood it was more that Shirou's physical brain got fucked and his memories with it.
And that while his brain and memories were fucked, everything in the world is RAIDED to the Cloud Storage System that is the Root. And the Third Magic being able to make a restoration from the backups of the cloud.
Like if someone erased all of Shirou's Steam Save Files. Making his saves go poof. "Forgotten" and unavailable.
Until someone restored them by downloading the backups from the Steam Cloud. Even if the saves were restored on a new system with different specs than originally.
Magic circuits are imprinted on the soul and Archer's arm was invading his circuits, however. It's entirely possible it caused some data corruption on the master record, so to speak.
Cut Wolverine in half.
Does he multiply?
I went through the snore of Fate and doing UBW. Don't break on me now Shirou. Nor fucking now.
YOU JUST HAD TO FUCKING DO IT RIN. YOU JUST HAD TO DO IT.
This is one hell of a segment. She is hitting the dot hard.
Yes Shirou hold yourself together. Even if you must lie. Hold on man.
"'Saved'…? So you were saved from the fire ten years ago? And that was by Emiya Kiritsugu?"
"Yes. But that's it. That isn't the reason for anything."
My heart aches when I answer.
My body is telling me that it's a lie.
"Then was there something else? Something you're always regretting or something Emiya Kiritsugu took from you as compensation for saving you?"
"There's no such thing. Kiritsugu merely saved me. And you talk about taking something from me, but at that time…"
…I had nothing to give.
I want off this fucking ride right now. Hell i might as well stop.
I didn't want to feel this sadness.
Don't worry man. He continues his broken ride for now. Which i am glad for.
you best be jokin', nigga
He would definetly have had a chance to win
I wish Kotomine had pulled a Zouken and summoned the True Assassin from the flesh of Assassin rather than kill Bazett and take Lancer. Having another "good guy" as an enemy would have added an interesting dynamic to the story, though it would screw up HF.
couldn't have thought about it at the time, her desgined was originally made for Tsukihime 2
but she would seriously alter the balance in the war with Fraggle Rock, it would be hard to make her fit in any of the routes
"A hero's pride, huh? …Man, everyone says the same thing.
Even Caster had such a ridiculous thing. What good is honor once you're dead?
I honestly can't understand how you people think."
"You don't have to. I'll make it easy so you don't have to think about it."
There is no more need for words.
All that remains is the intent to kill,
with Lancer's sharp and Archer's calm.
…They are about ten meters apart.
The confrontation of the knights in blue and red is just like that night.
Tohsaka calls out to the blue back.
"You two go inside. I'll catch up once I beat him."
"…I know. But Lancer, Archer is…"
"Yeah, I'll go easy on him. I need him to crawl and beg your forgiveness."
He speaks without turning, grinning at Archer.
"Man, this is troublesome."
"What is, Lancer?"
"Well. I can't go easy after she makes a face like that.
That's troubling, right? She's a great Master, but I'm not one that can readily betray my Master."
"…You are too easy-going, Lancer. Do you know the saying 'grass is always greener on the other side of the fence'?"
"Heh, what are you saying?
There's no way I'd know such a phrase!"
Yeah i will stop here. Sorry if i annoyed anyone with my dumping. God damn i hope there is more Lancer later on. Though i do have a feeling Archer will obviously be seen again in the future.
Man archer really is like a woman
>acting on emotion
>not understanding honor
I guess rin has the male traits on their relationship
>factual and cold
>tries to base her life on logic
I don't know why, but I felt compelled to make this
>not understanding honor
>What good is honor once you're dead?
Archer is right though. Honor doesn't mean shit after you die. When you die, you will be cursing everyone just like Deermud did if you blindly follow "MUH HONOR".
I also made one for Archer. He reminds me of Brock.
It's not like TA meant much to HF anyway. Whatever he originally killed could have just been killed by the Shadow.
While Bazett and Lancer would be a stupidly overpowered duo, they'd still have problems with Berserker no doubt. Caster and Fake Assassin working together might give them trouble as well. Same with Saber and Archer. I don't think we ever saw Bazett and Avenger fight two Servants at once, other than that one weird flashback with the Edelfelts