What's the opposite of "X Did Nothing Wrong"?
He tells her flat out that she's sensing parasites and not her soul mate. He went into great detail on what parasites were and how he was infected too. You know, the things murdering humans every day.
And then she goes out looking for a parasite and gets herself killed.
It's obviously her fault, how are we supposed to feel anything other than she was really, really dumb?
When she told Shinichi that she can tell his signal apart from the others she was lying to him and herself.
Jealousy of Murano, obsession over Shinichi, and this really odd power that she of all people was given lead her to make a really bad decision. Love's a hard thing to deal with and makes people do stupid things especially when it's unrequited love.
I feel bad for Kana.
I dropped the manga when she died and now I'm dropping the anime too, fuck this homosexual shit.
>Has the school cutie left.
This is a post for the previous archieved parasyte thread.
So basically an anon said its objectively right that being inhuman is bad.
Then the anon listed an example saying 2X is greater than X while X can be anything so the "inhuman being bad" thing is also quantifiable.
Heres my answer to that anon:
The example you stated itself is quantified.
You are simply comparing which quantity is larger.
Thats why you can add number 2 before X. Thats why you can make equations with it.
Not mentioning when X is not positive the equation is wrong.
But the problem such as "being inhuman is good or bad" is not quantifiable.
Thus you can't add any numbers into it.
The core difference between these two cases is "larger or smaller" can be defined mathematically while "good or bad" can not be precisely defined.
Therefore such questions can not be objectively proven or answered. You can still answer it subjectively, which means its your opinion.
Do I have to treat you like a child and explicitly point out that X is a natural number?
>The example you stated itself is quantified.
X is not quantified, we do not know the value of X, but we can make quantitative statements about X such as Y being bigger than X.
To give a real world example let's say we're looking at two big towers but one is obviously much bigger than the other. Suppose we're dumb hillbillies and we can't use the obvious methods of calculating height, for practical purposes we can't quantify how tall each tower is, but we can tell that one if bigger than the other.
>You are simply comparing which quantity is larger.
In your mind this is the only way to make comparisons? We don't need to know the quantity to an approximation for the quantity to be able to make quantitative statements. I don't need to quantify human emotion to say that having my hand cut off is worse than getting slapped.
There was one point where i liked her. Then the crazy came out. I'm not even mad
>To give a real world example let's say we're looking at two big towers but one is obviously much bigger than the other
Not a good example. The heights of the tower is still a measurable property. Even if we lack the means to accurately measure it, the property in itself is measurable. Goodness or Badness isn't a measurable property.
I don't realy get what's so special about this show. It exploded in Nipland and I've seen quite a few people claiming it as their AOTY.
Shit's boring as fuck and could atleast give a cliff hanger so there would be something to look forward to every week. Now it's a 6/10 at best.
You did not state that X is a natural number, you said we don't know what X is. So it can be anything, such as a negative number or zero.
You said that 2X is greater than X so I assume your "greater" means larger. Tell me if you meant other things.
Then, again, i said judging something "good" or "bad" is only subjective because you cannot clearly define what excactly is a "good" that applies to everyone, which means it cannot be objective. Its just a opinion.
The whole thing we are talking about is the word "objective" you used with your opinion and not you being able to tell a personal opinion.
You are missing the point. It is possible to make objective claims about measurable quantities. It isn't possible to make objective claims about non-measurable quantities. Because whether something is good or bad is not well-defined, but how tall a tower is, is well defined.
I have absolutely no idea what are you talking about but if you want expertise then
>2X is greater than X while X can be anything
could be understood as deffinition of set of numbers which can substitute X, In this case it is interval (0,inf) .
'Objective claims' is a nonsense phrase. Nothing is objective other than things we can all agree on. Just because I used a fucking ruler to measure a piece of paper doesn't mean my senses aren't tricking me or that my senses were accurate but my memory is flawed or that my memory is alright but I'm drunk while remembering the memory and so on. Only when multiple corroborate on something can we call it a fact.
Carefully explaining to you the mechanics of how a person constructs a mental model of objective reality based on his subjective experience is going to take orders of magnitude more effort than the amount of effort you've put into explaining yourself so I'm going to pass. There's no real way to continue this exchange without doing that so consider this me conceding defeat.
No you did not state that 2X is greater than X as a condition. You stated it as a result when X can be anything.
If the "2X is greater than X" thing is the condition, then what did you wanted to prove?
You wanted to prove that X is (0,inf)?
Then X cannot be anything, X has to be (0,inf). The point you were making that a quantifiable statement can be made out of anything is not proven by your example.
No, objective claims are those made from sound logical reasoning and empirical data. For something to be objectively true or false, it is necessary for it to be well-defined. It really doesnt have anything to do with your senses, memory or perception of reality.
Now you know that "objective" is a nonsense phrase right? You have to define everything precisely in order to be objective.
That's the reason I told you to stop saying your opinion is objective, because it will never make sense.
Only an a priori argument is independent from reality. Empirical data is only empirical in the sense that we can all agree on it because it matches our subjective experience. If everyone sees the moon then it could be said that it's empirically verified that there's a moon.
I'm not the original guy who said his opinion his subjective. I'm simply rustled over words like 'objective' and 'subjective' being brutally raped itt.
She might have been an retard who did everything wrong, but Shinichi should have gone to see her the moment Migi agreed to reveal himself and told him she was sending out her own signal. I don't know why he couldn't have just gone to her house instead of telling her to go through public areas. He should have been less vague over the phone too.
After how fast Kana was taken down, it feels like pure luck that the last moron didn't get skewered by Hideo the instant she revealed she knew. I hope Murano doesn't end up doing stupid shit too, because right now she's the best girl by default.
Yes, and the presence of the moon is an objective statement. It is either there or not there. The property is objective, because presence of something is well-defined (at least when it comes to matter or energy).
Not that guy, but
>Empirical data is only empirical in the sense that we can all agree on it because it matches our subjective experience
Is literally the opposite of empirical.
I'm glad this slut died, now best girl can win the Shinich-D
Its all about defination. Measurable and quantifiable things have clearest definations.
So its only easy when you're talking about something measurable.
And of cource with the technology development, more things will be measurable in the future such as emotions.
Then maybe we will be able to objectively judge something about this.
Precisely it doesn't. Because you cannot prove what you sense is objectively true, which means everything can be fake.
Again we come back to measurement. You don't have to precisely measure emotions in order to draw absolute upper and lower limits. You can say getting punched in the face is about 100 bad with a variation level of about 20 bad plus or minus, but it can never be as bad as losing a leg which is roughly 20,000 bad with a 5,000 bad variation.
Of course that's bullshit numbers but the point is people make those sorts of judgments in their daily lives all the fucking time and because we can all agree on them then we have a common ground where we can argue about it.
>only attractive girl
>what is Shinichi's mom, murano,island girl,freckles, parasyte teacher.
At least they made her really annoying,clingy and stalker-ish just before killing her to soften the blow. I like that chick he met on the boat the best, Maki-chan.
Well if you are telling about pain then there are already people who measure it with relative numbers/scales.
So in this case it can be objective to do rough comparisons like the example you stated.
But the defination of pain is not as clear as things like lenth or weight. So cases like losing your left thumb vs right thumb is hard to be objectively answered.
So my point is being objective needs clear defination.
>not wanting to cum on her forehead
Kana started as delinquent girl with some degree of curiosity over why the fuck could she sense some random guy, and ended up as a stalker blinded by obsessive love.
what the fuck happened?
I couldn't feel much over her death, I mean he did everything he could to explain to her why she should stay away from those signals.
Shinichi's mom death hit me like a truck though.
Kana had it coming to her. She chose her own obsessions over trusting Shinichi, but the man in me still wanted to protect her smile. I failed.
But holy fuck that punch/heart rip was fucking awesome
even migi was impressed. breddy gud scene
poor dude though, he's so depressed/in shock still over his mother that he thinks he isn't human anymore because he has mental blocks preventing a melt down
It's okay. I got to chapter 50 something in the manga too and don't see what's so great about that either. The characters are all useless and paper thin and there's really no plot development between the start and chapter 50 something where I ended.
Also, Murano is terrible. At least Kana had an interesting hook to her character with her being psychic and being crazy in love with her "soulmate." What a waste of a character.
>also, murano is terrible
second best girl after shinichi's mom
and will be getting the Shinichi D
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This ost is giving me shivers
But did you state that X has to be in the natural world? Because unknown can also be a number.
Anyway, it has nothing to do with the point.
If you did not see the posts above, I will state it again. There is not a clear defination of ”good“ or ”bad“ that applies to everyone. So such cases can not be objectively proven right or wrong, which means its your only subjective opinion. There is no objectively "good" or "bad" about being inhuman.
I have been waiting for 2 weeks for this episode just to see Kana again. I just watched 20 minutes of my candidate waifu being bastardized into a creepy stalker and then die. On Christmas Eve.
If you have gone through high school physics, you should know that there are negative quantities in the natural world such as electron.
Positive and negative are relative concepts to give defination to converses. So negative quantities exist in the natrual world by humans' perspective.
If negative quantities don't exist, then nothing can define what positive quantities are.
On the subject of the story after that point
So there are other parasites like Migi but they chose to join a hive mind than stay with their host? THOSE PARASITE WERE IDIOTS.. That final boss is a hivemind was weird and the mayor turning out to be human should be emphasized more in the anime
Negative charge is not a negative amount of positive charge. It's the result or adding or removing electrons.
There is no such thing as a negative amount of electrons. Zero electrons is the lowest amount that you can have.
There are no negative quantities in the natural world anon that's just silly.
If you wanna go into quantum physics there are also spin directions to consider not just polarities to consider that help quantify both polarities.
My point is you can go deeper
Miki (Parasite #2) was a normal Parasite to control the body as well, although I don't know about the others. I wouldn't call Goto a hivemind, he just has more flesh than most Parasites have due to taking over their bodies when they sleep, like how Shinichi controls his own arm when Migi sleeps. Agreed on the mayor thing, although there was minor foreshadowing that got lost in translation.
WE can only hope that the fansubers do a better job of translating than the manga translators. The anime hit a brink with "how many parasytes were up on the stage?" not including the mayoral candidate. The translation I read explains Goto to be one of the 5 parasites in the body. The story goes to lengths where Mugi says he cant cut the legs because they are parasites. Goto was the only one able to control the other 4 while the other guy could only control the arms.
I feel bad for this dude. Not only does his girl fall for another man who doesn't like her, but then she goes and gets killed on top of it. Then, at her funeral, the guy she liked seems uncaring.
That fucking ED gave me shivers man.
AOTY right there.
But true, bitch had it coming.
>There are people who unironically prefer Murano over this perfection
And Merry Fucking Christmas to you too!
I mean, you could have killed Murano, who has been arguably quite uninteresting, and then have Shinichi battle his deep guilt over forgetting her so easily with Kana or whatever. But no, you just had to go and kill best girl for no good reason.
>all these butthurt animefags
Almost make up for kana's death being so sad
>all those kanafags tears
She was okay, but way too dumb for her own good.
I said its a relative concept for converses. The negative sign is just used to differentiate the direction of a magnitude. In that sense negative quantities do exist because its an additional info to the quantity we measure in natrual world. Its as important as quantity itself. Thats my opinion.
She was in love and thought she had a special, fated connection with him and only him. She should have just believed him in the first place, she even admitted that her "gift" doesn't only work on him.
I agree 100%. Fact that he was human was one of the most unexpected things to happen throughout the entire story, and it got literally no explanation at all.
Also the fact that it was never explained how some humans could sense parasytes really pissed me off.
Putting X aside some things apply pretty much to everyone. People are generally similar to yourself so you can apply I formation you've learned about yourself to other people. I'd say being inhuman is pretty bad if you have any interest in living a normal life and having relationships with humane humans.
> suddenly lose control of your body, some asshole now has control of it, every thing you ever wanted out of life is now out of reach, and goes for worst girl
Tell me how that would make you feel, Ghost banri was justified
Yea I completely understand your point about what is bad being inhuman.
My point is just don't use the word "objective" because that word is tricky and it requires a precise definition and mathematical proof of what you state.
The music was like wanting to trick the audience that she will meet the right one.
Or prepare for the sad moment MC cannot save her.
But its too obvious shes getting into trouble. So the music really killed the vibe. Heck even using one of the wubwubs or the music MC encounter Tamiya Ryoko in that scene would have been better.
Barring another 2 week break, Not much longer until Mr.Suave enters the show
"First we gonna rock, then we gonna roll"
"X gon give it to ya, He gon give it to ya"
You clearly haven't seen this yet.
>There will never be a girl who has dreams of you having the manliest eyebrows
>that nipple placement
Japan this shit aint rocket science how do you consistently manage to fuck it up every single time?
>Girls he barely knew dies in front of him
>Completely loses his shit,breaks through a ribcage with his barehands,grabs the heart,breaks a wall and pulls the heart out
Jesus fucking christ I regret ever wanting to cuck Shinichi
the joy of being penetrated
>Look how well it was able to penetrate me, Izumi! In comparison, you're just...
I knew it was coming and still got a boner.
that was so fucking cool someone get me a webm
I'm not usually into this type of shit but that was pretty damn kick ass.
I was bored, so I made a wallpaper. I know its babby's first vectors, but I felt it turned out nicely
All of them are dumb, but at least so far Kana was the most likeable one.
>tfw people actually like stuck up bitches like her
I miss sissy boy Shinichi.
He seemed more rapeable.
>get a weapon that can be perfectly concealed
>cops can't identify the murder weapon
>not using it for your own benefit can becoming a powertripping faggot
He's so pure he's not even tempted.