Why doesn't Accelerator fly everywhere?

>>118694586
Walking doesn't involve as much math.

He likes walking. It's the only exercise he can get through his own effort rather than his ability.

>>118694586
He doesn't want muscle atrophy.

He does. Several times. It just sometimes looks like he's jumping because he doesn't remain airborne for hours because the air sucks.

>>118694586
Men are not to meant to fly!

>>118694724
Why doesn't he just vibrate his muscles then?

>>118695417
>accelerator could be fucking ripped with just he's abilities
op as fuck

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why does uiharu wear clothes?

she could be butt naked in the middle of a blizzard or skinny dip in lava with her power

>>118697992
Because she's pure and not a slut like Saten

>>118697992
She isn't so cruel as to deny Saten the enjoyment of flipping her skirt, it's what any good friend would do.

>>118695535
He is made to job though

>>118698480
He wins every fight that isn't not against a hero archetype.
That is a plotpoint.

>>118694586
>redirect wind to push him anywhere he wants
Wind? Why be so complicated? He could just fuck with gravity.
Anyway, the thing with Accelerator is that he's not really interested in his powers. Sure, he enjoys ripping people to shreds every once in a while, but he'd be totally okay with a 100% normal life. Flying everywhere would be out of character for him.

>>118694586
Because Accel doesn't care about anything other than Last Order's well-being.

>>118694586
No calculating,OP.
Imagine doing a bunch of math problem everytime you want to fly the bathroom when you can just walk with no math

>>118694639
this.

If he didn't walk, he'd probably have muscle atrophy so bad when he landed from flying, he'd just fall down.

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>>118694586
Because he looks badass with a crutch
Also flying in raildex is not that good of an idea

>>118700175
That's not much of an argument, considering, he can calculate all of the air of academic city to create plasma and then said, it's not even that hard.
Seriously, his calculation abilities are so fucking insane, bet it's probably impossible for anyone in real life to reach him.

>>118700749
He's gimped to half his calculation ability now, though that still wouldn't stop him.

What stops him is that he never really got creative with his powers until the Touma fight, and shortly after that he got stuck with a time limit that he can't afford to waste on trips to the convenience store.

>>118700255
WHY DO WE FALL DOWN?

>>118697992
Man, if Uiharu grew her hair out like that...

>>118700576
Can Touma punch people out of the air?

>>118705889
If the reason that person is flying is supernatural and can be touch of course he could but I was talking about St. Peter's Interception Spell

>>118706138
Doesn't that only work on magicians?

>>118706138
>St. Peter's Interception Spell
I fucking hate that spell so much.
How much "No fun allowed" do you have to be to create a spell that prevents people from using magic to fly?

>>118706829
The story behind the spell says that a man levitating with the help of a demon was made to fall and break his neck when he lost the demon's protection. It shouldn't be impossible to make it work on espers since they are basically people who got powers thanks to science, something some magicians consider a devilish force, and we have seen magicians messing with esper powers before.
Remember that Accel fight in Hawaii. It is not hard to imagine that if that had happened while he was flying at high speeds he would have fallen to his death.

>>118706930
Flying is an stupid power anyways.

>>118707128
Magicians fighting while they fly would be cool as fuck.

>>118695417
As a /fit/izen, I now really want accelerator's power.

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>>118707179
Pray for Index III and you we may get a dogfight between angels

>>118694586
More importantly, is there anyone who can defeat the Accelerator?

>>118707490
Touma

>>118707716
Not anymore.

>>118707755
Why not? he made Accel's heart skip a beat the last time they met

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I don't think you guys get it. It's by divine providence that accelerator cannot beat Touma. EVER.

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I'm not really sure Alice here is a man

>>118707908
Imagine Breaker negates divine providence

>>118694586
you know that he can also teleport right?

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>>118708099
he can probably tell apart but he never does it.

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>>118707490
sure

>>118708099
He can calculate 11th dimension coordinates but that doesn't mean he can teleport
Being better at math than Kill Point doesn't make you a teleporter

I would really like to see Accelerator shred Mikoto into little pieces.

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>>118708788
> Why does Kuroko bathe if she can teleport the dirt, sweat and dead skins cells away from her body?

it doesn't work that way

>>118708838

Enlight me then, I am filthy anime secondary because those baka-tsuki fags purged the Index novels from their shit site.

>>118708919
Download them, nigga.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/hf9dv691qkfld/PDFs

>>118708461
he still can teleport

>>118709328
Prove it

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>>118708788
because pooping and peeing feel good man, the same reason we dont all go and get catheters and colostomy bags for kicks

and yes, childbirth for kuroko should be considerably easier than a non teleporter

>>118709326

Anon, you are the hero I need but don't deserve.

Thank you.

>>118708788
who the fuck draws this shit

>>118709530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3jhTaFfG98

>>118709756
New Testament is still on baka tsuki. it's just that they removed Old Testament because it got licensed by yen press

>>118709968
I don't think you are trolling but you can't be serious

>>118710086

But my autism blocks me from even glancing at New Testament before reading the Old Testament.

Just like in catholic school, I used to rage whenever the priest-teacher skipped from verse to verse.

>>118710117
not the same guy but. just so you know while he is an angel mode he has all Esper powers.
the entire aim diffusion field has been downloaded into him.

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>>118710197
if I were to tell you to skip to a chapter right now I would say go read the New Testament volume 9 right now.
just do it
you get to see some Touma suffering some Touma dying a lot. hand some sexy sexy magic God

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>>118710197
> read fool.
it bothers him

>>118710117
he couldn't have just walked there or stop time

>>118710436
because he currently doesn't have enough calculation power to do that.

he needed a 100 percent of his brain just a mess with last orders

now with the clothes they can't even put out half
so maybe some stem cell injections can fix that

>>118710436
He needed damn near 100% of his calculation ability to rewrite LO's brain. Performing brain surgery on himself without making things worse would probably take more than the 50% he gets from the network.

>>118710220
That has never been stated in the novels, yes there is an increase on his calculation ability but that doesn't mean he can manifest other people's power. If things worked like that Kazakiri should be a multi-skill, and she isn't

>>118710304
I just realized there is a little heart in her crotch

>>118710454
He controls the vectors below his feet to move faster in battle
Moving fast behind someone is a very common thing in anime, you don't need to teleport to do it

>>118710742
> that has never been stated
yes it has actually. in the epilogue after he first got the angel powers Alastair said to aiwass " the AIM field has now been downloaded into the vector control device"

>>118710898
but that doesn't mean he can manifest other people's power. If things worked like that Kazakiri should be a multi-skill, and she isn't
He was talking about the ceremony to make science angels and how his actions advanced the keikaku

>>118711016
I wonder if you have multiple personalities you get multiple skills
>>118711057
less than half actually
and he can't going to Angel no just whenever he wants only when he wants to protect someone.

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>>118711057
He usually has better things to do when he goes angel mode, like being edgy or protecting the people he loves

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>>118710197
>priest teacher fucking up like that

goddamn

reading new testament before finishing old is not only being a filthy secondary, but an apostate and heretic to boot

>>118707490
Kenshiro

>>118711564
oh just so you know when the accelerator is an angel mode is Bobby is equal to or greater to a saint

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>>118711564
It has more to do with the fact that he doesn't need to for the most part, even less now that he is living his happy ending
His wound is both a punishment for his sins and his bond with LO. He has to reason to fix it now that he is in a path to redemption

>>118707908
>divine providence
That's what people call Archetype Controller this days?
As long as Touma emboids the Hero archetype, no one with a villain archetype can hope to beat him.

>>118712146
Nah, that's just what I think.
In the latest Index LN volume it was revealed that Aleister Crowley has a power called Archetype Controller, which allows him to control jungian archeytpe. With it he could do shit like changing people views of science from the pseudo-religion that exists in the Raildexverse so something heretic like in the Middle Ages, causing anyone from the Science Side who disobeys Crowley to get persecuted.
Some people brought up the posibility that he is using Archetype Controller to make people who fight Touma lose by forcing into them the conception of "Those who oppose the Hero always lose".

>>118712146
no its because Aleister Crowley's power isr the control of archtypes. so basically he has control of concepts including stuff like heroes and villains good and evil.

>>118712146
It is not ending any time soon and a mayor arc just finished
You should try to read it

>>118712146
this stuff isn't any for at least 5 or 10 more years

I still think that the reason why Hamazura sticks in Crowley's craw so much is that, unlike Touma and Accelerator, his heroics defy the neat categories of archetypes. He was intended as a minor character who would be BTFO by Touma and Accelerator in a sidestory novel, and then according to the oh-so-reliable sources in the Dark Side, he was supposed to have died against Mugino. But then he saves Takitsubo and Mugino and gains Takitsubo as a lover in direct defiance of the medium's unwritten rules which state that the male hero must be as pure as snow.

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>>118711180
>I wonder if you have multiple personalities you get multiple skills

Nope. Powers are tied to the physical brain/body, not personality. Another personality might use the power differently but that's it.

>>118712507
That or soak up every piece of knowledge you can find on the wiki

>>118712469
Pretty much.
He isn't a Hero like Touma but neither is he an Anti-Hero like Accelerator.
He is just a normal guy protecting his waifu and his friends who is as likely to risk his life to protect a little kid as he is to torture someone to death to get what he wants.
Hamazura is too much of a normalfag and that makes Crowley mad.

>>118712469
Hamazura is Super Hamazura

>>118712628
personal reality it's based on how they view the world. and their powers evolve the more they understand it.
so yes a person with multiple personality disorder would have multiple powers depending on each personality.

the whole thing between magic and science in this series is based on views.

accelerator actually is capable of going to Angel mode at any point in time.
why is limited to only when he's trying to protect someone?
is because those are his views and those that what he believe he should do. he believes that with an angel does.

so this is also possible that if someone had amnesia they could gain a new power based on their new views.

Like aiwass said
" do with it what you will with the whole of the law"
it's basically the key to the aeon of Horus.

>>118712848
>so yes a person with multiple personality disorder would have multiple powers depending on each personality.

No, they wouldn't. They're not normal cases of MPD but we have multiple examples (Misakas, Kakine, Rensa) showing that the same body will have the same power even when the personality is completely different.

>>118712848
This.
basically magic and personal really work on how you view the world.
magic based on miss stories and legends.
personally reality based on science and world views

still both are trapped within the aeon of Osiris
and until they free themselves from God's religions emotional things from the world they will never answer the
aeon of Horus

>>118712848
It's " Do what you will shall be the whole of the Law".
It's from IRL Aleister Crowley's "Book of Law"

>>118713238
*what you wilt

>>118713238
>>118713238
basically saying do what the hell you want not what others want you to do and if you do believe in what you want. Shall be the law that govern you

it's basically saying
" you run the world the world doesn't run you"

>>118713326
Believe in yourself. Not in the you who believes in me. Not the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourself

>>118712848
>>118713159
Maybe it has to do with the way the brain is programmatically set up. After all, we've seen that people can manifest powers they don't in Level Upper and Rensa, kind of like "running someone's program."

>>118713326
>aeon of Osiris.
how you see the world and how the world affects your reality

> aeon of Horus
how you affect the world and the world bend to your will

>>118713476
> aeon of Osiris
the world's law-governed you

> aeon of Horus
you are the law

>>118707490
Someone already did, 3 times.

>>118713435
That seems most likely, Dark Matter has shown the ability to produce specific esper powers by creating brains customized for those purposes, but the brains involved in that experiment didn't seem to have their own personalities.

why doesn't fiamma get a new arm?

>>118714462
When did this happen?

>>118714599
Because he's dead.

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>>118714637
In Kakine's delusional fantasies

>>118714637
NT4 or so, the massacre in Baggage City. Kihara Byouri grew brains on her fingers using borrowed Dark Matter, which apparently was starting to turn her into Kakine near the end due to overuse.

>>118714767
Oh, the mindless holistic esper Othinus forced him to make probably counts as well.

>>118714462
accelerators wings are made of dark matter aren't they?

>>118714637
anon, kakine has created life before. i wonder if the holistic esper will ever be shown.

>>118714863
no, they are made of whateverthefuck, kakine's wings in volume 15 are darkmatter.

>>118714867
isn't dark matter organic?

>>118714915
no accelerators wings ARE made of dark matter

>>118714863
And the IB is made of hopes and dreams
People needs to stop trusting exposition

>>118715001
the wings are made of dark matter

>>118715043
It doesn't become more true every time you say it
We had this conversation a hundred times already
Kakine doesn't know shit

>>118715128
Kakine himself confirmed accelerators wings were made of dark matter.
I'm not putting things in my ass.

his wings are made of fucking dark matter.
what do you think they're made of them vectors?

>>118715207
see>>118715128

>>118715207
misaka thinks magic is just cheap science doesn't make it true anon.

>>118715266
> Seeing the black wings, Teitoku deemed to be made from Dark Matter. Impressed by its power, Teitoku that Dark Matter is only suitable as a spare plan, though he says that it doesn't meant it's all decided. With that his wings spread out and glowed, Accelerator and Dark Matter, black wings and white wings, the organic and inorganic, the One Who Wields the Power of God and the One Who has Touched the Territory of God, face to face

>>118715297
I said it once and I will say it again
The only character I trust with exposition is Saten
Everybody else is full of shit

>>118715442
the nose knows

>>118715309
anon that same section used this to describe them
>the One Who Wields the Power of God and the One Who has Touched the Territory of God
that line as well as what kakine thinks is pure bullshit.

>>118700576
>Flying in raildex is not that good of an idea.
Really only problematic if the flying is magical in nature.

>>118715728
>One Who Wields the Power of God
kakine because he can create life

>the One Who has Touched the Territory of God

accel because he is OP as fuck (by science standards)

>>118715880
Or if the sky is filled with six wings

>>118715880
>implying espers aren't magic

>>118715884
"The One Who Wield the Power of God" is Accelerator, not Kakine.

>>118716161
Oh its you

>>118716161
It's a fundamentally different kind of magic from that utilized by traditional magicians, though, so St. Paul's nofun spell isn't likely to work the same given that it doesn't work on mundane methods of flight. Actually, given what happened with the Roman pope in NT10, it's possible that the person flying has to consider the method of flight magical for it to work.

why is the science left strong after their illusions get broken, some of them have even gotten stronger. but every magician gets his op spell broken or his magic abilities removed.
>curtana destroyed
>olly lost his magic and then his arms
>all of gods right seat lost there abilities

>>118713831
So that pretty much means that Aeon of Horus is the logical endpoint? Can't really see it going more self-controlled than that.

>>118710304
Being Touma is suffering

>>118716491
Because the Science side has a super genius uber OP dude who used to be the strongest wizard in the world pulling the strings and manipullating everyone while the Magic Side only has Laura.

>>118707908
i want a christmas sweater with that pattern

>>118716491
Because thats how science works, unlike religion being proven wrong doesn't ends it, it only gives it the opportunity to improve

can gemstones use magic?

>>118716659
I want any one of Accelerator's shirts

>>118716491
because aside from aleister and the lvl 5's science was BTFO'd by magic until recent novels with massive robots, 5 overs and badass dogs, so he had to level the ground a bit

>>118716690
no

>>118714915
Actually Kakine says that they are made of Dark Matter.

But the white wings should be made of Telesma

>>118716690
Magic is what normalfags created to git gud and pull the same shit as gemstones so no, they can't use "magic", at least not the same magic as the rest.

>>118716690
On this topic, didn't Accelerator and Misaka discovered their powers before getting to AC?

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>>118713326
>>118713831
That isn't what it means at all. Do what thou wilt means following your True Will (destiny, true purpose in the universe etc) and moving beyond unrelated thoughts and desires, not just doing whatever you want.

The aeon of Osiris is a period where mankind's spiritual views were dominated by self-sacrifice, dying/resurrecting deities, and favoring the spiritual over the material. Accel's wings were stuck there because of his self-hating villain mindset and hero worship.

The aeon of Horus is a period where mankind's spiritual views become dominated by self-realization. The power curriculum uses it as the basis for a new form of magic, Touma is basically punching it into people, and Accel's wings moved up and started working properly once he admitted that he just wants to be with his loli.

>>118716868
No.

>>118716868
They didn't had any power to discover before getting in AC
Gunha is the only gemstone among the level 5s

>>118694586
Why is Accelerator the best character in this shitfest of a show? It should just focus on him and it would be so much better.

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>>118712628
what if you have two bodies?

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>>118718083

>>118716772
>>118716820
>>118716868
thanks i couldn't remember if it was the power curriculum stuff preventing it or if it was just an esper thing. level zeros can or can't use magic?

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>>118718083

>>118718195
Level 0s are espers

>>118718270
>Level 0s are espers
>can't use esper powers because you are not worth crowley's time
>can't use magic now either
skill out is right

>>118718195
Level 0s are still espers, their powers are just useless because they don't have enough control and/or output to do anything with them.

>>118718195
The moment you take the Power Curriculum you lose your chance to be a cool magician, even if you are a Level 0.

>>118718353
>>118718385
we do have the money and time to improve them.
But who the fuck cares about some shitty lv 0s?

>>118718435
the loli teacher can still be a magician right?

>>118718561
Yes.
Considering a teacher like Kagun became a magician without bleeding out, I don't think that teacher take the power curriculum.

>>118718435
You can probably get away with it if your power is BS or you're just suicidal. I bet Saten would have enough guts to get in one good spell before she died.

>>118718561
Nothing's stopping her.

>>118718353
Your esper power would be shit anyway, otherwise AC would have wasted money on developing your skills.
It's funny to think about all those ignorant lvl 0s thinking they have an amazing potential that hasn't bloomed yet when the reality is that they don't have powers because their powers are shit,

>>118718561
>there will never be a side story with stiyl teaching komoe rune magic

>>118718676
>>118718674
Gunha could probably cast spells just fine even though he's an expert. his guts will overcome the pain.
that's assuming he even gets pain

same thing with dark matter. he could probably make disposable clones to cast spells.

an Academy city could just make some non Esper clones and have them cast spells.

>>118718755
>not helping the grand keikaku =shit
got to bed crowley clearly you're still butthurt from getting beat up by magic god support group.

>>118718755
Don't fool yourself. If you had powers you would be happy as fuck about it regardless of how shitty they were

>>118718867
Mosaki could probably mind control people to do magic. or mind control magicians. for get some people to see in the Gregorian choir like izzard did.

basically the experts have to find a workaround in order for them to do magic or find a way for it to not hurt their body

>>118718940
It's not even about the keikaku.
You need to be useful to the keikaku to get past Lvl 4 but up to that point as long as your power isn't shit AC will spend some resources in developing you.

>>118718944
I don't know.
The fact that Uiharu is a Lvl 1 implies that the rest of the Lvl 0s have shittier powers than Uiharu.

If Misaki were to read indexes mind could she possibly handle the grimoires?
they both have perfect photo graphic memory?
and it's been shown that even spells could be saved on the Clones network.

>>118719240
No one can just read the grimoires.
Even Index need some measures to be taken first in order for her to read them.

Why can't Touma negate saints?

I really don't understand

>>118719120
Yes, and you would love every second of it

>>118719240
No and no, but most level 5s seem to have really good memory

>>118719321
because Saints have souls
imagine breaker in the gates what is not considered normal in this world
imagine breaker does not negate souls
Saints have souls therefore imagine breaker does not negate them

this is also the reason y Toma doesn't kill anyone with a single touch

>>118719321
They move at supersonic speeds and have superstrenght so he either can't move fast enough to negate their attacks or the moment he enters in contact with the attack the strenght of the impact fucks him up anyway.
That's why he developed the "Use the goody two shoes Saint to block the other more assholish Saints" countermeasure.

>>118719321
Saints are considered normal in that world. therefore imagine breaker does not negate them because imagine breaker does not indicate normal things

>>118719120
You could have a fucking great power but if you Parameter Out at level one there's no point. Electromastery is a good skill but if you're level one all you'll ever be able to do is make sparks.

>>118719462
*strength

>>118719462
i think he means why doesn't ib turn off their super strength, but iirc he did that to aqua so the saint destroyer could hit.

>>118719522
I don't know, powers like Telekinesis sound cool even if you are a level 1 who can only levitate a paper sheet for a few seconds.
Not as cool as being a Level 5 with a Gravity Control power or something like that, but Telekinesis is cool anyway.

Which has been the shittiest Esper power introduced in Raildex so far?
I'm pretty sure one of those Level Upper girls introduced in Railgun had a completely shitty power but I forgot about it.

>>118719628
kill point or what ever it was called

>>118719550
because they are born that way. that level of strength and speed is from their natural in born "normal" physical capabilities. they can't be nerfed to human limitations because they were always above humans. This is without magic, too.

>>118719628
>Which has been the shittiest Esper power introduced in Raildex so far?
Uiharu. Either she has turned into a bunch of flowers and got stuck mind-controlling a loli body OR she just grow a bunch of flowers on her head.

Why does he need the crutch?

what do you think noukan can do to the two immortals and aiwass?

>>118719757
her power is to maintain constant temperature. that's why her insanely overclock PC never overheats.
>>118719767
because he's a pimp

>>118719757
>got stuck mind-controlling a loli
>a shitty power

I'm not into raildex so, is magicians = espers?
To me it is like how Fate's Church Association and Mage Association. Different name, same energy source.

>>118719628
There weren't any that were particularly bad. Level Upper introduces girls with Aero Hand, Dummy Check, Flux Coat, and Synchotron, but all of those are more impressive than Uiharu's (unless you're talking about her power).

>>118719918
Raildex stomps fate.

>>118719918
Nope.
Magicians and Espers use completely different magic systems.
Espers originated because the strongest magician of all times suddenly went " Fuck your shitty magic for plebs, I will create my own magic with science and robots".

>>118694586
Everyone's always talking about how amazing Accelerator's powers are and all the things he can reflect or whatever. However, what if someone decided to simply nuke the entire planet?

>>118720259
There is already someone who nuked the whole universe.

can accel go under water and filter oxygen from the water around him?

>>118720304
More than 10000 times, actually.

>>118720259
The blast wouldn't kill him, but it's possible that he might asphyxiate, shut down for lack of computational power or electricity, or starve to death after such a blast.

Of course, Accelerator would never Last Order's home be destroyed, so this would never happen.

>>118720071
Okay.

>>118720259
Actually he reversed vector. Mandatory something that isn't vector-attack

>>118720345
amount of time she did it is actually unknown.
Something x10031.
basically resetting Tomo sentire suffering cycle killing him and then sending him back to beginning of his life

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>>118718513
>But who the fuck cares about some shitty lv 0s?

Parameter List wasn't made for shits and giggles. AC doesn't have unlimited resources, and shitty espers consume far more than they give back. There would be less available for other projects like superplanes and mechs, the espers with high potential would never reach it, and the projects based on esper powers like fiveover, equ.darkmatter, and dark may would never get started in the first place.

You can't even blame them for hiding it. Nothing would change if was public except for shitty espers incessantly demanding the city waste billions to give them parlor tricks, because getting the best education in the world and having "mech pilot" as a viable career choice just isn't enough.

>>118720336
Misaka can breathe in hydrocarbons so she can probably breathe in water if she puts her mind towards electrolysis. I don't think Accelerator has ever demonstrated control over individual molecules, though (the closest is probably his brain surgery).

>>118720380
>this would never happen

>Kid Buu randomly shows up and decides to play fireworks with the planet

>>118720259
not while Alistair has anything to say about it. and the nuke is the last thing these guys are scared of.

you're quite several characters I could tank nukes as if nothing happened

>>118720527
AC can create all this super science and give people the power to manipulate the world at will, but they are still subject to budget constraints.

>>118720558
I don't mean that nobody would ever try, I mean that if somebody did try Accelerator would fly up and stop them (and Raildex is a world where anybody with enough power to beat Accelerator has better things to do than destroy the world).

>>118720259
Firing such a blast of energy against him would probably also kill him even when he has survived continent destroyer, planet destroyers are way stronger than that.

>>118720645
he also negate synergy. heat energy, kinetic energy, light energy all types of energy.
and while in Angel mode accelerator doesn't really need to breathe and can actually create OXYGEN

>>118720603
When I say "nuke the planet" I mean blowing the entire planet itself up.

>>118720627
He might be able to stop them, but the point is that he'd have to stop them in the first place or else he'd die in space.

And he could always fail to stop them in time, especially if they fly off faster than he can catch them, or just destroy the planet from an entirely separate location without him even being aware until it's too late.

Accelerator's got awesome powers, but he's anything but broken.

>>118720798
Accelerator is about one step down from as strong as you can be before things like "material existence" become irrelevant, he's pretty top class.

At the really really high ends of the power spectrum, anybody who would try to destroy the whole earth would find themselves shut down by people just as strong who would prefer that the earth continue to exist.

>>118720798
even if the world with a blowup Alistair or some other magic god would ever so effortlessly recreate it. and I don't think the world blowing up with even affect balusters house. its called the calculat fortress for a reason.
even magic God can't just walk in there.

>>118721192
why doesn't accelerator carry a crank charger and then switch it to a vector mode and then use that powers to crank it forever?

>>118721192
sure did disappear along with everything else. crowleys real hideout is in another phase/dimension given how his staff was described and since he was apparently in the tube and beating fiamma at the same time.

>>118721410
So if you hit the aeon of Horus you become omnipresent?

>>118721387
This is actually one of the things that bothers me the most. I guess vector mode probably takes a fucking shit ton of power and he can't spare the calculations when fighting. Or maybe it's one of those stupid psychological feedback block things.

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GcUKb19e

>>118694586
When will Touma-senpai notice him?

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>Raildex

Is this a dead thing?

>>118723718
It's in a long spell of no content, so kind of. The only thing that might pop up soon is the mini-Misaki story for the figure that someone claimed to have ordered.

raildex ded

>>118723931
Railgun spoilers are coming out in a few days.

>>118723970
Oh, right. I don't know why I thought they were taking a month off.

>>118724051
It's okay, I thought so too as well as Accel until I realized they didn't say anything about a break.

>>118723718
Sort of, since we're never getting Index/Railgun 3

When is the crossover novel coming out? Next month or February?

>>118695417
Writing can be difficult, anonymous.

I heard Othi-chan got added to puzzdex recently. Did they nerf her to hell and back or can she one shot anyone?

>>118719628
>yfw SS2 indicated the things that the unique things that people can do maybe powers
>yfw there are people whose power it is to have clean penmanship

>>118724051
It only feels that way since NOTHING HAPPENS in the manga anymore.

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>>118725738
Well, she got a card.

>>118726096
It's because Fuyukawa is dragging shit out like he did in Daihaseisai. It's really sad when Accel can have 30 pages each month and Railgun can't.

>>118726240
It should be considered a war crime for Touma to not have been able to tap that.

>>118726300
At this point I think he has pretty much given up in getting any romantic development.

>>118726346
What if Touma has a fairy fetish?

>>118726244
For what purpose? Is his stock of Kamachi's stories running out?

>>118726390
He's lazy and doesn't want to draw more than 20 pages a month.

>>118726390
He's probably too busy drawing h doujins for himself and friends that will never see the light of day.

>>118726390
That's what we thought during Daihaiseisai, but then the series didn't end with that arc and we're getting a new one.

Tell me about Accelerator, why does he wear the collar?

>>118726240
>not giving her a card of her smiling
Absolutely disgusting. I wonder how many people who play the game know who Othinus is.

How long would it take Accelerator to remove all of Misaka Mikoto's blood?

>>118726466
The collar has the little machine that connects him to the Misaka Network, which allows him to do basic human task and not shit himself, also allows him to use his esper powers.

>>118726300
Touma won´t tap anyone ever because kamachi can´t into love and the harem is too big.

>>118726540
If I take that off will he die?

>>118726545
>because kamachi can´t into love
What about Waltraute?

>>118726580
It would be extremely painful.

>>118726580
No.

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>>118726633
He's a big guy.

>>118726701
Not really.

This might have been asked before, but I recently remembered reading a section in Index where it was talking about how the Saints got their powers, and it said that it was more or less based on luck but that it was you had to be "lucky" enough to have your body in a certain way, like bones, muscles or whatever other qualities it was. If it's based on your physical body though why has no one ever tried to clone Saints if it would work way better than the Sisters series ever would.

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>>118726300
She would have been the perfect mother for Touma's children.

If he can control vectors why didn't he just make the air pressure surrounding touma like 10atm?

>>118727232
Because plot.

>>118727232
Because Accel is rarely creative with his powers

>>118726886
The possibility has been mentioned a couple times, but no one actually attempts it because it would be a huge violation of the magic/science treaty.

>>118726886
>>118727789
Gremlin made some artificial Valkyries which used this concept (Valkyries are basically Norse Saints anyways).

It sorta worked, but they also sorta melted.

>>118727232
Because he can't do the calculations.

The conversations about power levels always gets me interested in this series.

No idea where to start though; the whole series looks like a poorly put together timeline.

>>118728221
Start from the first novel.

>>118728221
>the whole series looks like a poorly put together timeline.
What? Just watch it in production order.
Index I -> Railgun -> Index II -> Railgun S 1-16 -> Railgun manga

Or read the LN and Railgun manga.

>>118727837
I forgot about them, the ones who went after OG Valkyrie's shota right? Leave it to Gremlin to not care about Science and Magic being separate

>>118726509
You mean like forcing it all out violently? Probably not that long, if he could turn a sister inside out in relatively no time at all the same is probably true for blood. Although it may be a bit longer because its ALL the blood, though not much.

>>118728221
Read the LN's and forget about any anime that was produced for it, or watch the OP's and ED's for all of them, its the best part in my opinion.

Amazon has the Index BDs on sale where you can get the entire series for less than $150.

It includes the japanese dub with the sub.

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>>118695417
Like this?

>>118731107

yes

Casual vento fucking where?

>>118721192

>even affect it
>touman and co literally break the walls using jackhammers

>>118732768
SCIENCE

>>118732768
> assuming that wasn't part of Alistair's plan

>>118700255
He could just exercise in the air.

>>118732879
That is a pain in the ass and a waste of battery life. And we all know how lazy Accel is.

Will the level 0s and the have-nots rebel against AC when they find out about the Parameter List? AC can't kill all of them, right?

>>118732990
probably would piss off more than just the zeros, and doubt much would come of it.

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>>118708919
>baka-tsuki fags purged the Index novels from their shit site
WHAT

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>>118733112
Yen Press has licensed the first series, and in accordance with their guidelines they just removed the series. NT is still there.

>>118720503
how are Misaka clones are related to the universe being nuked? (there were 10031 clones killed)

>>118726240
She's so beautiful

>>118707490
Alex Mercer

Where is Mikoto-shitposter?

>>118705375
holy fuck this

>>118694586
Why doesn't he just beat Superman already?

>>118707490
Giorno

Will Kamachi buff Touma in the future? If yes what would be a good buff for him?

>>118736614
Nanomachines, son.

>>118736614
Yes, in place of a hero you will have a demon king.

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>>118736795
I would be fine with that, boost him to just below Saint level.

>>118737168
Touma being on Saint level with his precog bullshit would be so fucking stupid and overpowered that I would immediately drop the series.

>>118737280
I fucked up, I meant below Saint's level of speed.

So, not supersonic, but fast enough that he could trump Tsuchimikado

>>118734695
It's the number of times Touma let himself die as a punishment for being selfish and choosing to give up the perfect world were the sisters were still alive.

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>tfw favourite character is index

>>118737937
Her time will come.

>>118737937
>tfw you favorite loli is Fraulein

>>118737937
Why?

She's the least interesting, least expanded-upon character who basically serves as nothing but a human punctuation mark on which to end a scene with Touma, usually by biting him.

What little she contributes to an episode usually boils down to her going into autism-mode and google-searching her library of magic books to do something incredibly minor like fuck with someone's spellcasting - something Touma would do were it not for the writers occasionally remembering Index exists and feeling guilty that she's not done anything in a while.

She's nothing but comic relief, and i use the word 'relief' very, very tentatively here.

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>>118737937
Then take this Ojou-like Index

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>>118737937
>yfw magic god index will bear her legs

>>118736865
That probably should have been confirmed in volume 6, 8 or 9 years ago. Do we know who Geb, Hadit and Ra-Hoor-Khuit are yet?

>>118733253
Please tell me they didn't get DAL as well

>>118738026
>implying this won't end with a cataclysmic battle of Laura Stewart and Magic God Index versus Aleister Crowley and Level 6 Railgun while Touma rallies all the friends he made over the years to set things right

>>118738812
>level six on par with a magic god
>laura doing anything
i wonder if laura still talks to crowley after finding out he crowley the magician.

>>118738894
>after finding out he is

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>>118700576
fucking gifs

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how to defeat onii-sama?

>>118694586
>why doesn't accelerator do x
>why didn't he do y
Because the author is stupid and doesn't know shit about physics.

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Mikoto and Headcrab deserve to be shitposted and hated. Never seen a character so uninteresting being forced and stealing screentime in a series full of interesting and varied characters and girls.

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>>118737937

>tfw Stiylndex shipper

>>118739284
>the author is stupid
Kamachi is quite educated for a Japanese LN author and he really does put a lot of effort into research.

>>118738812
>not Magic God Index striking down Demon Warlord Touma

>>118736614
Touma will become the Lord of the Abyss.

>>118739361
What if Mikoto and Index combine into a single person so they both win at the same time?

>>118740152
They would still lose

>>118740152
You'd end up with some kind of ultra bitch.
If only Othinus had thought of that when she wanted Touma to kill himself.

>>118740267
Who can now contend against the union of the two first girls?

>>118740312
itsuwa when she gets off on parole.

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>>118740312

>>118738931
Somehow worse quality you fuggin fag

does anybody still have hope for the accel manga?

>>118741470
Yes, but it is a forlorn hope.

>>118741470
I am actually enjoying that manga a lot
I don't know how but the art grew on me

>>118741470
It could be good, if the art ever improves and the artist gets rid of his black face issue, and thinks for two seconds about how some of the powers he's making up on the spot would work (No friction will not stop a giant mech no matter how high if it's just the air you idiot). Yeah I dunno, it still has that potential, just isn't living up to it so far

>>118741470
I just want to see Accel not jobbing

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>>118741643
It could be worse

>>118741733
To be fair, that was fucking hilarious

>>118741733
Man, then right after that Touma starts shitting on him kek

>>118694586
Because he only gets thirty minutes of battery for his choker while in esper mode.

It's an inefficient use of energy he might need later on when he can just walk to where he wants to go.

>>118741616
he overuses the lightning effect too.

>>118694586
Because he does. And it's more efficient to just accelerate his own body around (which is what he does most of the time) instead of using something else to push him. He only uses wind for levitating or legit flight,

>>118710898
Nope, never happened. Aiwass wasn't

>>118744449
*wasn't even introduced until vol 19.

>>118710436
That's not how cells work.

>>118716794
No, the white wings are not Telesma. Telesma doesn't mix with AIM/Dark Matter or other esper-related stuff, and is the "matter/energy" of heaven which is in the realm of magic. Aiwass is not made of Telesma either. Whtie Wings are still Dark Matter.

>>118714462
Kakine hadn't made it that far yet. Still just a hypothesis.

>>118744481
he was talking to frog doctor this was also when he said he needed to go beyond level 6

>>118736865
Reminder that nothing in Railgun affects Index.

>>118744732
Well, Accelerator said that the mass of Telesma wasn't a normal power, and compared it to his wings.

>>118715728
No, they are not. Wields the Power of God is literally being able to calculate the laws of the world. Touch the Territory of God is getting one of God's defining abilities (a creator). It also serves to show the difference between the strength and significance of their powers. It's the same as Othinus (power of god) and Ollerus (territory of god).

>>118715128
Except it IS true. Kakine confirmed them,and Kakine is an expert on the subject. Doubting him is the same as doubting everything.

>>118715001
That's not what it was saying at all. It's not about what IB is made up of, but rather what it means to magicians. Get some reading comprehension.

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>>118744866
Maybe that will change.I want to see these two in the novels so badly

>>118745017
The expert bullshit again? don't you get bored of being proved wrong

>>118745095
Neither side "proves" anything, and Kakine said it so I'm inclined to believe him. Also Touma would get wrecked by Gunha

>>118745095
Brawling it out or fighting together?
Gunha has already acknowledged that Touma has balls of steel so it would work.

Though I want to see more Thor and Touma wrecking stuff together.

>>118744874
>Just like his white wings, that power truly was not a normal power.
Accelerator didn't say anything. The narration didn't compare the two powers, and merely said that they were "not normal". It wouldn't even make sense for the wings to be Telesma since Aleister has no need for Telesma, but is creating a world where AIM and Dark Matter replace it.

>>118745196
Why not all 3? Throw in Tsuchimikado or someone too, I'd be fine with any combination of bros getting into shenanigans.

>>118745165
It would be an interesting fight. Gunha may be stronger than a saint but he is still just an esper, Touma should be able to negate his powers. Not only that, he was born with his powers and has depended on them his whole life so in theory he should be even weaker than Accel without them

>>118745095
You're the one spewing bullshit. You might as well not believe any and all explanations if you just randomly and unreasonably pick and choose what you want to believe. You might as well not believe that Touma is even male despite the narration repeatedly mentioning him as a healthy high school boy.

>>118745307
>Negating what even Gunha doesn't know
If the power is just making him stronger, there's about zero chance Touma can win, hell, Gunha picks up a bat, bam, Touma is completely fucked because the bat is mundane and just being sped up by Gunha. It's like that but with his fist, I doubt it's some kind of cloak draped over him, it's innate.

>>118745327
Touma is far from being a healthy high school boy, he spends too much time in the hospital. He should just buy the room he stays at already and live there.

>>118741733
Styl is a bitch.

>>118719321
Saints have naturally high strength. You can't negate that. Plus their body fortification magic works inside their body (muscles), so you can't IB that reliably. It's the same way for someone like Ladylee (Touma would have to touch all her body parts simultaneously).

>>118719550
No, he didn't. Kanazki blocked Acqua's movement while Touma blocked his magic.

>>118745297
Ah, that would be awesome. Throw Accelerator in there and we have a party.

>>118745327
>You might as well not believe any and all explanations
It is healthy not to believe everything you read, specially in a series where characters are systematically proven wrong the whole time. Unless there is evidence I don't trust what Kamachi's characters say.
On that note >>118715442

>>118694586
I didn't really thought too much of Accelerator on his first appearance, but it's pretty badass how he's still the strongest even after getting brain damage.

>>118745420
But Gunha doesn't do that, it would be OOC for him.
>>118745484
Do all Saints use God Breaker? I thought that only Kanzaki used it

>>118745496
You're obviously just an idiot then, in a medium where the only information you get is from characters in that universe you usually trust until proven wrong unless the character is a known liar. Otherwise you have literally zero information you can believe, none.

>>118745496
No, it's not. You're just being an idiot with bad reading comprehension. There are characters who talk about things they know nothing about, there are those who purposely say wrong or misleading things, and there are those who are experts whose words reflect the reality of their field of expertise. Doubting everything means you don't know any of the characters and don't have enough understanding of the lore and narrative.

>>118745541
It was an example to point out how if the power isn't draped over him like some cloak Touma can't reach the power to negate it and is shit out of luck. He might be able to negate the amazing punches shockwave and stuff, but the actual punch or Gunha himself I doubt he can affect

>>118745541
God Breaker? That's Kanzaki's nickname of sorts, which is from her own name.

>>118745542
>>118745584
Characters are not the only source of info and most of them has been proven wrong, those with expertise in a field more often than not
Kakine himself realized he was full of shit the second Accel went black wings on his ass
It amazes how little critical reading some people has

>>118707490
KIIHARA-KUUUUUN

>>118745627
Well, isn't Breaker of God her super-human mode? In Volume 4 the narration explains it quite clearly.

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>>118745694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8PEqI-YVvw

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>>118721387
You would need to spend more energy cranking it than the charger would be able to generate. At best the input and output would be equal.

>>118745785
He might not actually, there's a certain amount of energy needed to make calculations, and of those calculations it's the same amount of energy no matter how big the number involved is more or less. You could have a very simple equation output a large force on a crank if you wanted to be convoluted enough.

It would look stupid as fuck and Worst would never stop laughing at his little spinning crank but it could work.

>>118745753
She's always in super-human mode. Vol 4 is talking about getting on the level of an Angel and actually manage to damage one. Remember that Christian spells can't damage Christian angels.

>>118745693
Kakine didn't realize he was full of shit. Stop writing fanfiction and actually pay attention to what you read.

>most of them has been proven wrong, those with expertise in a field more often than not
Name them. Volume and circumstances.

>>118745932
Yes, and she enters in Breaker of God to get at that level. Remember that her muscles and blood vessels are under heavy straining?

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>You will never spend Christmas with your magic cabal boss imouto

>>118745877
He doesn't do the calculations, he offloads them to the network. The choker handles the data transmission, and that's what eats up power. We don't know how much power the battery actually has and how much is needed to supply the choker. Accelerator was once charging directly from high voltage lines with a makeshift transformer but that only got him a few seconds of additional battery life at most.

>>118745976
I don't think the character limit in 4chan would allow me to make a synopsis of every major event involving a magician or scientist that has appeared in the more than 40 volumes that make this franchise

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>>118697992
>>118705375