Why don't you watch old anime /a/? There are lots of good series and movies from the 60s, 70s and 80s. You're really missing out.
I do, though.
Because the animation, audio, and voice acting is usually a glaringly low quality that makes it hard to enjoy the story.
But there are exceptions of course.
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>Because the animation and voice acting is usually a glaringly low quality
Same can be said for most modern anime, especially when it comes to animation and art. A lot of digitally animated shows just look cheap. Audio issues in older anime tend to be more a problem of the age of the source.
But I'm watching Lupin (S2), Urusei Yatsura, and Dirty Pair right now.
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I've watched a lot of 70s and 80s shows but they're typically not as good as shows made in a later era. And these reasons stand not for their lack of production values or anything like that.
If I had to pinpoint what years the best anime were produced, I'd say that belongs to the late 90s, and early to mid 00s. Kino no Tabi, Texhnolyze, Aria the Animation, Wolf's Rain, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Serial Lain and Boogiepop Phantom, just a few to name some of the giants that came around this time.
Lupin III: The Mystery of Mamo.
Cagliostro if you haven't, or if you want to celebrate it's 35th anniversary.
Is Heidi similar to Anne at all?
>I was born in this country 100 years too late
>but they're typically not as good as shows made in a later era
Opinions. I've seen most of the late 90s, mid 2000s series you mentioned, and I wouldn't put them above the best series from the 1970s (Dezaki and Takahata's work specifically).
Ashita no Joe is the best
I watched the gunnm ovas the other day and thought it was pretty cool. Would have been nice to have more volumes adapted though.
Finally got round to Ideon at the start of this month and finished it in about three days, fantastic stuff but I was a bit annoyed to find the BD was being subbed just as I had finished watching Shin-Getters subs.
I think my next retro show might be another Tomino(toss up between Daitarn 3 or Zambot 3), Aim for the Ace, SDF Macross(might save this for my Christmas watch), Casshan or Tekkaman.
I just started watching Gundam and it's surprisingly great. The character script and the way they feel so human.
Are all old anime like this?
I heard ZZ a shit but Im loving Amuro.
The oldest anime I've watched is Mobile Suit Gundam (1979).
Also seen a couple episodes of Space Adventure Cobra (1982). Gotta go back and watch the rest of that sometime.
Is that old enough, /a/?
Watch the rest of that. Then Mobile Suit Z Gundam next, and then Char's Counterattack. I believe that's the entirety of Amuro's and Char's story.
i adore 80's animu, would be willing to watch some more 70's stuff though, i've only watched casshern and lupin
I've been meaning to check this out for a while. Thank you based single Russian seeder
May his squats be long and proud
Why would you recommend him shit?
I can't remember the last time I even worked on my backlog. It might have been five weeks ago even. I was so concentrated in getting through my backlog that I fell behind in all my classes, and then I had to catch up.
>winter break is coming up
>suddenly get obsessed with your backlog
>not just watching anime to clear your head between assignments and shit, and working on your backlog once the semester ends
Why would you do that to yourself?
My school computer was broken for weeks so I lost all motivation to do work. I just used a tablet and watched anime in class all day.
I also have to catch up three weeks of over fourteen airing shows too.
Damn, dude. I hope you were able to get caught up on schoolwork. My last final was Friday, so I'm letting my brain work and basically doing nothing but marathoning lots of mecha stuff.
I've been watching a lot of Lupin III. Still need to get around to all the movies and OVAs.
Also, Gunbuster. That's some good 80s sci-fi. I should get around to Space Battleship Yamato and the rest of the Leijiverse.
There is all sorts of anime from the 1920s with subs and torrents, just search anonymoose on nyaa. There is also a feature film from the 40s the first anime feature film ever made.
I dont usually watch old anime, but when i do, it's by Leiji Matsumoto.
They are quite similar. Both about an orphan girl, not a great deal happening, not full of unrealistic drama. There's probably slightly more threat in Heidi more regularly as she lives on a mountain. I would say Heidi is very close to being as good as Anne. It just doesn't have so much of that interpersonal drama that Anne does because Heidi spends most of the series living alone with her reclusive grandfather.
I'm watching the red jacket series too, shit is great.
The other day I watched the episode with midget, bald, blonde wig wearing Hitler. Fucking ridiculous.
Hahahaha. I need to start Lupin.
Finally finished Bubblegum Crisis last week; it was good action-packed 80s fun, and damn it had good songs. I don't know if I can pick a favorite, although maybe /a/ can reach a consensus on it.
Macross is really testing my patience. Did you guys really grind through 30 episodes of this stuff? So many unnecessary and annoying scenes. I'm really tempted to watch DYRL instead, but I'm scared that I will miss out on some stuff.
Anyone have Discotek's release of this. I bought it a few weeks ago. I wish they'd release BDs, but I can't stop giving them money.
The episodes directed by Miyazaki were good, but the rest felt meh.
well i started watching anime in the mid 90s and at that point a lot of shit from the 80s was still in the process of getting officially translated. so mid to late 80s anime (akira, fist of the north star, kiki's delivery service) is actually where a lot of us started. i still sometimes find 80s/early 90s ovas i havent seen before and find i still enjoy them in 2014
personally i find anything pre-80s pretty glaringly dated (it doesnt help that they are almost never well preserved either) so i tend to not bother
What's so good about it? The setting was excessively bland and the story was mediocre. Only reason to watch it is the good art and if you want to see what old Gainax could do.
If anyone's trying to download those old anime DVDs off of Nyaa, I didn't realize that my seeding had stopped. I'll keep seeding, and put them in this Mega folder as well.
>i find anything pre-80s pretty glaringly dated
What have you tried to watch? There's a decent amount of pre-80s anime that look fantastic and have great releases. Look at anything directed directed by Takahata or Dezaki for example.
I justed watched Joe. The first season had poor production values so you can see all the shit on the cells even on the DVD version. Season 2 had good values but Dezaki overused stills.
that i can remember, kimba, speed racer, astro boy, lupin iii, devilman... whatever they used to make robotech/voltron... i wouldnt know many directors from back then. what should i watch?
The Rose of Versailles (1979)
Future Boy Conan (1978)
Akage no Anne(1979)
Alps no Shōjo Heidi(1974)
Ace o Nerare! (1973)
Ashita no Joe (1970)
should we make a guide for 70s and 80s exclusively?
I do but not enough so I'm going to start.
Slayers, Dirty Pair, and Bubblegum Crisis are on my list. That's all I can remember. Was going to watch more Gundam but wasn't interested after the first series.
What do people think of ARR releases? I tried to keep up with them a few years ago, but since I didn't have an opportunity to donate, I also didn't get the series I wanted. So, were they useful to anyone? How fast were they to deliver?
Do you really NEED to though?
I have been taking this Winter break to start watching some older anime. Admittedly most of what I have seen is post 2000, though obviously not all. Currently I am watching Patlabor (TV), Ranma 1/2, and trying to finish Slayers Try (Not really all that old but still pre 2000). I want to get a 70s anime in there as well. Maybe Lupin or some Dezaki Osamu anime, I am not really sure.
I honestly really like what I have seen so far. I stopped keeping up with this current season due to me just watching and downloading some older series that interested me.
Patlabor may go down as one of my favorite series.
>Patlabor may go down as one of my favorite series.
And it has great looking BDs
I do anon and we don't talk about good animes here anymore just overrated crap and entry level shit, see the no. of SNK and Akg threads.
Will we ever get a full 60s style Ashita no Joe remake?
>not liking Anne
enjoy missing out on glorious 70s yuri pleblord
>implying AnJ isn't "entry level"
it's literally as "entry level" as it gets, anyone can watch and enjoy it and appreciate it on a human level.
a lot of 70s anime is actually some of the most newfag-friendly stuff out there (unless you go "ugh, you can tell it's from the 70s, ergo it is DATED, ergo it is bad")
old school classic anime elfen lied from when anime was still good and not pleb shit
if you didn't get a boner over the thematically compelling scene in which whatshername pink hair girl peed all over the floor you did NOT have a childhood
I understand what you are saying, and maybe still in Japan to this day it is "entry level", and certainly back when it was released. But do you honestly think that 90% of /a/ has seen most "entry level" 70s anime? Let alone normalfags who watch Toonami, or the average Gaia/mal/reddit poster.
aside from Heidi: I haven't seen it yet but I've only heard good things about the Peter Pan anime; I've also seen clips and Takashi Nakamura brings some fantastic visuals with him.
>Aim for the Ace
>Ie Naki Ko
These are tho only 70s anime I'd consider entry level.
Anne has some really great backgrounds.
I also see what you mean but I just think "entry level" is a silly term; just say 'underrated/under-watched in the west" or something and it'll get the point across.
also" it's kinda willfully ignorant to think MAL, Reddit and Gaiafags don't watch shitty ongoing anime all the time. watching whatever is new and caring more about the "community" aspect than finding stuff to your taste (hence the "bad state of the industry, too much moeshit/shonenshit/haremshit!" whining by people who've seen boatloads of anime, almost all of them from the 2000s and 2010s) is not "elite /a/ behavior", it's literally what all anime watching internet kids do. I like to sample online opinions so I read a lot of dumb communities and trust me, they're very similar to /a/ in their choices of what to watch. for fuck's sake "normalfag" teenage girls watch Seikon no Qwaser.
the real reason /a/ is unique and more engaging than those places because it's not hivemindey and its very specific culture basically encourages people to disagree with each other; even in the rare cases when a consensus is reached, someone will disagree and call everyone a tasteless faggot just for the hell of it. it's the only place where you can easily find people tearing apart certain "sacred, flawless" works and admit to liking certain "cancerous, irredeemable" ones.
What even is your definition of "entry level"? Why not just say "well-known" or something?
They might be entry level in 70s but today only anime-lovers will watch it, most normalfags watch the shit that is currently airing a person watching 70s anime now means he is serious and has already "entered"
Watched Mobile Suit Gundam recently and absolutely loved it then watched Zeta.
Kamille ;_;Amazing shows that I can't recommend enough.
Started ZZ yesterday. Heard its not as good but willing to give it a shot. MC seems less whiny than Amuro and Kamille as well.
I just finished watching Giant Gorg last week and really enjoyed it a lot! I had no knowledge of the show until I came across a WebM of it on here last month. Thanks /a/!
Do people really think old anime is ''entry-level''? It's nearly not watched or discussed by anyone nowadays, almost every single person who claim to be an ''otaku'' or use /a/ watch seasonal and post 2008 anime only, sometimes they watch LOGH/EVA/Utena/Lain because people claim them to be the ''best animay ever dude''.
"entry-level" shouldn't be used negatively but as a word for good things that you can show off to people to get them interested in anime.
when deciding how to introduce someone to anime I don't just show them whatever dumb shit weeaboo kids are watching now. I showed Gauche the Cellist to a non-anime-watching friend because he's a hipster music journalist and I thought he'd get a kick out of its atmosphere and lo and behold he liked it.
now imagine if I showed him Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai because "well that's what internet kids are watching now", he'd have just thought "what the fuck is this shit why are you showing me this are you MAD".
imo, entry level as in works able to be enjoyed by most human beings as opposed to livin' la akiba loca ebin otaku pandering.
There's also quite a bit of old shows that are OK-ish adaptations of literature so that's probably more "accessible" to many people whose idea of anime is comes from really bad, but visible and popular shows.
I found the series a little ruff around the edges but overall very fun, in an inspector gadget sort of way
I don't like anything without that moe late 00's look.
I watched DB, DBZ, Golden Boy and NGE but that's it. I have no interest watching that Space Drama, mecha stuff, or whatever else of the eras before the 2000s.
>Space Drama, mecha stuff,
otakushit that killed anime
Z is full of idiots. More for the girly boy.
Yeah, sorry. uTorrent doesn't give you an obvious notification when seeding stops for whatever reason. I'm not sure if they'll all fit on that one MEGA account, so if not I'll post them elsewhere and link it.
I understand it's ignorant of me to do so, but we watch anime for different reasons and have different tastes. Which is a reason you shouldn't hold yourself to a higher standard because you can enjoy older series, that's equally as ignorant as you.
If you believe that otakuism killed off the industry then keep living in the past of older series. I watch for escapism, and cute characters make for my kind of entertainment while keeping out a mainstream western audience.
Couldn't you say that about any decade? You can easily pick out an 80s series from a 90's series.
It's just this decade's art style.
I think you dislike this modern take because it's a lot more simplified (character look) and done digitally compared to previous decades.
The simplification and digitally drawn adds to the moe.
the smug emoticon was meant to say "this post is ironic, don't take it seriously", not "I'm making a serious point in a self-aware, wacky way".
FLCL, my favorite animated anything of all time, is the most otaku thing.
>op knows everyone will ignore his thread if he just posts like a nice sensible boy talking about old anime
>intentionally posts retarded antagonist implications thread to rustle people up
>plan works perfectly
Why's /a/ so predictable?
it works better if you actively attack whatever you want to discuss. "ugh, what a piece of shit ugly dated anime, completely worthless!" = this thread would have been maxed out by now.
I've done this since 2008: start a thread with a retarded troll then start posting earnestly once the fans come out of the woodwork. works like a charm.
>Tatami Galaxy looks fine to me and I don't mind digital when it's done right.
Alt. Art sucks dick.
Tatami, Ping Pong, Trapeze, Dead Leaves, Red Line, etc etc.
You rather have really weird (mostly shitty) art over nice looking faces repeated?
>most otaku thing
traditional is inherently better than digital, and by that I literally mean that no matter how bad your color scheme is, it will look better; real-world colors are more natural by default because, well, they exist.
but when it comes to actual high-quality stuff? there's no noteworthy difference beyond nostalgiafagging. someone who's a brilliant colorist while working traditionally should be just as good at coloring digitally. traditional coloring is almost like a safety net.
not 'old anime' but I've seen people on /a/ and also Ben from Anipages say that the Koike Lupin movie is actually not boringly serious and shitty like I expected it to be after Fujiko, but feels more light-hearted/like a red jacket episode.
guess I should actually give it a shot, then.
try harder dude
>mfw people who only watch "new" anime is a thing now.
When I started watching anime, you were thankful for every show you could get your hands on. What year it was made wasn't even something I thought about.
Why are you using a new anime as OP picture? 80s anime was much better shaded than that.
>it's literally as "entry level" as it gets, anyone can watch and enjoy it and appreciate it on a human level.
Except casuals and newfags normally don´t touch anything from other decades. Normal people in general don´t even watch black and white movies.
you're technically right, but 'normalfag' is such a lame word when used in this context.
best ironic shitpost I've read in ages
I sorta get what you mean. Digital painting imperfectly simulates an analog process. But the increased color/light spectrum of digital is nothing to scoff at. It's like looking at a printed photo vs looking at it on a screen. The printed one may be easier on the eyes but the monitor approaches real life more closely.
Actually, I just watched this today. It makes absolutely no sense, but it's kinda cool.
>Pretty much mfw the whole movie.
Because it makes me sad for some reason. I just imagine what it would have been like watching the series original in a bustling 80's Japan, on your new tiny CRT TV, buying the VHS which included extra fan service.
yeah, the BDs look gorgeous. You couldn't get the required level of appreciation for the visuals with the shitty rips that existed before, so in my memory Anne feels like sort of a dated show in that sense. But then that webm doesn't feel dated at all, I'm almost 100% sure it's the BDs doing the show justice.
I'd say it's more about the characters and fun than the 'plot'. just get into the flow of the movie and don't think about the logic of what's happening much.
it's really good, visuals are cheap but very fun.
I loved 0079, Char's Counteratck, and War in the Pocket, but Zeta, ZZ, 08th MS, and 0083 were mediocre
My point is anime back then is almost just like anime now, there is a lot of shit but definitely stuff worth watching, and even with differences in production quality, hand-drawn and not-digital-coloring was more prevalent
I finished this today; it was pretty good. Like Victory Gundam but less terribly hamfisted about the way it does things.
The sound was really good at times, and of course the person responsible went on to work on Mushishi. Has the director done anything else worth watching?
At least it has an incomplete release of the english dub with video that looks like it came from somebody recording their VHS with a phone.
At a glance, it looks shit. It doesn't come across as very Dezaki at all, and it seems that many episodes have different character designers in charge. Not that it's a bad thing, but it doesn't have the TMS house style this way, and the animation looks more western than nihonese.