Yes I do.
I fucking love grain. You have no idea how fucking happy I get when I see grain. I think that people who artificially remove it should have their fingers cut off and be given lobotomies. Grain is love, grain is life.
Grain is love, grain is life.
>mfw the shit Funimation continues to pull with Dragon Ball Z
What about that is bait? Compare any OZC release to your average anime subs and you'll see that the text is quite a bit smaller. It's not a problem in itself, but it makes it easier to miss what's going on in the actual show because you're focusing on a smaller area to read the text, making your peripheral vision less useful.
>The image was re-encoded from the same BluRay source as V1, with added grain restoration, which effectively masks partial static frame-copy grain removal seen in the source.
I watch it both dubbed and subbed from time to time, and I had taken that screenshot previously to illustrate the exact same point.
Who said grain is exclusive to the 90's?
ok, i made a mistake. what i had in mind were the subs for cowboy bebop, which are big, imo good size. i checked blue submarine as well and it has subs of the same size as in your pic.
Friendly reminder of the dangers of grain removal.
i fucking love it. grain, hand drawn, decent fps without shitty cheating effects like camera pans
Watching new anime with the lazy cgi isn't worth the consistancy of animation. It's like watching movies now in that gimmicky bullshit 40+ fps. it's just tacky and it looks like shit
Reminder that EG is doing Gunbuster BDs with the original and redone audio.
The best looking release is still the Dragon Box
Jesus christ I've never looked at them side by side so I never realized just how badly they fucked the contrast on >>118174878
I mean I knew it was fucked, but not that fucked. It actually hurts my eyes.
It's worth it when you realize how much better this is...
...than this from the DVD.
A few new, digitally mastered series will add a grain filter to give themselves a retro feel to it.
Like MGX here.
It's also a pretty shitty rip, I haven't looked in a while, but it was the only rip of the MGX BDs I could find in 1080p.
So who's looking forward to deliciously grainy Eva BDs next year?
You have no idea. There isn't anything in this world besides my waifu becoming real and taking me into the 2D realm that would make me as happy as orgasmic 1080p EoE grain.
I'm getting sweaty just thinking about it.
That's because some Gunbuster episodes were shot on 16mm, some of 35mm, but probably all lower-end stock while Laputa would have been shot on more expensive 35mm.
Stock and technique make a difference: check out the technicolor 35mm movies from the 50s and 60s and compare to typical stuff from the 70s when technicolor fell out of favor. The grain is harsher and you don't have the wonderful breadth of color.
Well, the series was shot on 16mm, so it will likely resemble the early episodes of Gunbuster.
You would think, but they've ruined a lot of their films while some like Fox and the Hound and the Little Mermaid came out unscathed. I cannot understand their methodology.
They also DNRed all of their 50s classics, but because those were technical marvels, the DNR didn't need to be so harsh. I still wish they hadn't, I want to see Sleeping Beauty and Lady and the Tramp with all of that grain intact.
But the OP and EoE were shot on 35mm, so that will look like the smaller grain found in Nadia.
It's really sad what Disney has been doing. There were some compilation images floating around /co/ showing that the old VHS tapes showed more detail than the DNR'ed garbage on BD.
>The best looking release is still the dragon box
Actually, Funi released an amazingly true-to-source BD set... that only went up to the fight with Vegeta
Would have been amazing if they kept going with that, but noooo!
>muh sixteen buh nine
>muh bright HD colors
>muh completely wiped subtle detailing
I see. That's interesting. If technicolor gave a better look than why would they stop using it? Was it expensive?
Renewal is pretty good. ADV did add some DNR filters, but it's not near as bad as the [zx] encoding, I'll post a shot direct from the ADV DVDs next.
Christ, I can't believe I still remember how pissed off I was. I fucking ran out to the fucking Wal-Mart to buy it, ran back home, slapped it in my computer, and sobbed
That thing is still the ugliest piece of shit I've ever seen. The fucking VHS rip I watched in realplayer in 2000 looked better than the manga release. Fucking hell.
Not only was the process and film expensive, the cameras that shot Technicolor were extremely bulky and expensive, even by Hollywood camera standards. It was just such a hassle, that when studio execs that that people were still buying in to movies that weren't as saturated in color as the Technicolor, it fell out of favor.
Well, best looking complete release, anyway.
Yeah, it's fucking stupid that those got canceled, but I understand why they were. Guys like me had just finished buying all the Dragon Boxes and weren't ready to buy the entire series -again-. Dumbasses who bought the orange bricks went and bitched that there were black bars on the sides. So I'm sure sales were poor and that's why Funi had to shut it down.
I'd be psyched about a continuation of those sets but I really hate Funi's tendency to replace all the title cards in their shows. It'd be fine if the titles for DB / Z were the actual episode titles ... but they aren't.
>The narrator says a completely different title than what's on screen
And again direct from ADV's Platinum release.
You should be since it have been shot on 35mm. And now Manga's DVDs must have lost any of their artificial value for being "scare". They're not collectors items, they're just junk.
The TV series will look marginally better than any DVD, but the movie's upgrade will just be stunning.
They actually did a poll asking if the fans wanted the BDs to be 16:9 or maintain the original aspect ratio, and they overwhelmingly voted for 16:9. I've actually seen negative reviews for the DBZ and (excellent) YYH sets complaining about "lack of widescreen."
I can at least say Aladdin was NOT one that was ruined. Granted, this rip is from the Dutch-released BDs.
A lot of people think that Funi's survey was bullshit and they intended to do it 16:9 from the start because it's easier to 'clean up' 20% less of a frame. I kind of agree, since they never released any numbers.
Yeah, Disney started adding basic CGI into the movies with B&B. I don't know if they did anything like that for Little Mermaid. The rip I have of that is pretty poor.
I'd be interested to see more of Don Bluth's movies from the 80s on BD, too. I know All Dogs Go To Heaven looks fantastically grainy. I haven't seen any others, yet.
There's always something wrong with a Funi release, no doubt about that.
>Toei will never do a 1080p Dragon Box for the 30th anniversary
Even if they did, they'd probably DNR the shit out of it.
Is there even any untampered version of Dragon Ball available? I've been meaning to rewatch it for 10+ years now but I always assumed the pussified version was all that was left
I'm still in shock over what Viz did to Sailor Moon.
Yeah, VLC, etc etc.
If you have HD space, there's a complete set of ISOs floating around the torrents/
usenetof the Dragon Ball Dragon Box with subtitles patched in. And a set of the Funi Dragon Box Z ISOs to go with that.
Otherwise, your only hope of Dragon Box encodes is the Utsukushii-Raws set of Dragon Ball (has subs), and the DBNL Dragon Box Z rip.
What do you mean by tampered and pussified? The Funi DVD sets are actually really good, they're uncensored and they didn't crop it to widescreen or anything. Only problem with it is the terrible white balance
It's honestly one of the biggest fuckups in the history of fuckups. I'm shocked that the video engineer was like 'yeah looks good' and even more shocked that shit got through QC.
That's a Dragon Box screencap anon. Funi's DB sets are slightly zoomed, yellowed, and DNR'd.
You are right about the white balance thing though. Toei did zero color correction on the DBox.
Shit, you're right. I watched it before I knew anything about anything so I assumed it was a good release. Pic related, looks like shit.
Yeah, back when it was on TV. The DVD releases are uncut.
It's one of the worst looking home video releases ever, let alone that it's on blu-ray for fuck's sake
Funi seems to be working with a digibeta source for DB, which is why their DVDs look the way they do and there hasn't been a BD announcement yet. Z they have film scans for, which as you can see from up in the thread haven't been used very well either.
Whereas the Dragon Boxes for all three series were based on the original film. Funi needs to get their hands on more of those.
Here's a rant about it by a guy who actually remasters footage:
Sadly, lots of fans are going "Y-you guys are just entitled babies who like to whine! You're all just videophiles because us NORMAL people don't see anything wrong with it!"
>Straight from McDonald's mouth: "All I can tell you is that what you're seeing in terms of blended frames is not part of the post-production process."
>"We're like, video passion on steroids here! That's how addicted we are to getting the best possible imagery..." she continues on the ANNCast. "I don't think there's a lot of ground we can cover by pointing to this or that image and saying, this is the right image, that's the right image... I can tell you without a doubt that myself and ten videophiles sit with me, 20 hours a day, working on this material know, and are providing Charlene and our Neon Alley folks with the images that we have access to."
>"As a videophile yourself", Zac Bertschy asks, "Do you look at this and say: Okay, this is as good as this show can look?"
>"You know, my feeling about it is I'm really happy with what we did to it, based on what we had to work with. I'm thrilled with it... these issues don't trouble because I don't think they make the product in any way less - I know the love and care we put into it. So am I happy with it? I am happy with it... I'm completely over the moon with it, if you must know!"
>Zac later asks: "So fans who pre-ordered this set and get their copy in the mail. They aren't happy with the video quality. What do you suggest that they do?"
>Charlene has an answer on that front: "Of course we take all feedback very seriously, but that's... It's up to everyone to decide what they want to do with what they bought. Given - to echo Julie's point - given what we had to work with, that's how it was able to turn out with everyone working on it, so, we just don't have any news on that at this time."
THESE PEOPLE ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING LIARS I HAVE EVER SEEN
Holy shit, all that damage control.
They might do a LOTGH and redraw a bunch of shots.
They'll also CGI Mari into the background of the scenes with Yui.
Yeah, you could tell Zac really wanted to press the issue harder and they wanted none of it. I mean shit, I thought it'd look awful just because it was an upscale of old ass masters and they were going crank up the contrast and wash out even more detail, who would have guess they'd have OTHER unrelated video issues on top of that.
So in other words, Viz got shit masters. Meanwhile French DVDs are fine and an actual JP BD in a few years will look like it should. We aught to be used to the NA market getting consistently dicked over like this.
If that's the case, then how come everyone else in the world is getting a good video release except for the English-speaking countries? Mexico, France, Germany, Italy, etc. all managed to get the good masters from Toei, why was Viz unable to?
They've lied before about the quality of the JP DVD releases with their doctored screenshots, who's to say they didn't lie again?
Still an improvement from the old asf files I got from WinMX. On a 14-inch screen you can't tell the difference -- being an ignorant 17 y/o didn't help matters.
Don't get me started on how much I paid for the last third of the show...
>from the totally unrelated position of some other good show
Gets me every time.