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Just wrapped up Hollow Ataraxia. What a good fucking video game,

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Just wrapped up Hollow Ataraxia. What a good fucking video game, Baz was awesome. Shame Iron Galaxy nerfed her so much.

Also Type Moon general I guess.

I've had this picture for years and never knew what he was holding until I opened my Baz/Caren/Angra folder to post this thread ;_;
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>>118087770
>general
what? I though generals are against the rules.
>what he was holding
I don't recognize it.
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>>118087770
What IS he holding? Just looks like a white square.
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>>118087770
More Bazett soon, fellow patrician
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>>118088079
>>118088065
It's the last puzzle piece.
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>>118087770
One time a moon reader told me that Kirei charmed Baz and I thought he was just kidding/meant they were friends. It's kind of weird that she actually fell for him.
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>>118088079
The missing piece of the sliding puzzle, I'm guessing
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>>118088155
>It's the last puzzle piece.
I've just remembered the ending where Bazzett and Avenger part in 3 2 1 0.
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>>118088394
How could anyone resist?
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>>118088466
That whole finale is really well done and actually might be my favorite Nasu moment outside of Punch Out (because how can you top Punch Out). It's just super cool that the final "battle" is just two friends talking (also that the male and female main characters actually are just friends for ounce).
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>>118088583
a shame most people won't take it seriously due to it being a fandisk heavy on fanservice

>>118088394
It wasn't that he charmed her, but she felt that if she could have someone like him love her, that would be some sort of accomplishment, it's more a desire that stems from wanting to reaffirm her self-worth, sincwe all know what little self-esteem she has
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>>118088773
>a shame most people won't take it seriously due to it being a fandisk heavy on fanservice
A lot of those fanservice scenes were boring/juvenile to me when I was reading them, I especially tended to hate the pool stuff, but Angra flashing back through them was pretty effective.
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Also I forgot how FUCKED Nasu's stuff can be, Caster, Rider, and ESPECIALLY Avenger's flashbacks were some dark shit. Lancer's was pretty much just the straight myth though.

Kuzuki's wasn't a servant flashback obviously, but it was pretty much Red Demon God 2.0, which was cool I guess.
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>>118088877
I like the fanservice. They didn't really have much of a choice since all the characters were already developed fully. I think they only work for most people if you are a fan of Nasu's humor. Otherwise they are understandably boring as fuck.
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>>118087770
>General
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>>118088394
Why is Bazett so pure?
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>>118089342
because all she knows is work, punching and potatoes
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>>118089168
Some of it is fun, I laughed my ass off at TAIGA DOJO: THE MOVIE because how the fuck do you see that coming, and stalking Kuzuki and Taiga with Caster and Lancer was also funny.

The stuff I rolled my eyes at is the constant boobchat and infantilizing Saber (oh no she can't swim how moe blah blah blah). Less of that, more forcing the Servants to be in a school play.
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>>118087770
>Also Type Moon general I guess.

No it won't be, it'll be a Fate thread and you know it.
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It was always cool when the game managed to surprise me despite how much of it is known due to later works/ancient comedy doujins. Like, I never thought about why you always see Bazette with two arms even though I knew Kirei stole her seals.
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>>118089483
Well all the present material is pretty much just Fate. Until Mahoyo is translated (HAHAHAHAHA) we're stuck with that.

Good news is I have it on good authority that Fire Girl vol 1 is almost done, so hey, Meteor!
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>>118089483
doesn't have to be

Shiki redesign when?
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>>118089483
It's not fair that best girl-chan isn't in the more popular series!
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>>118087770
I also just finished Ataraxia last night. Good stuff. My save file only says 92% on it though I did all the scenes in the main game. Does the "Eclipse" stuff count towards the completion percentage too or is it the minigames?
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>>118089433
That I agree with, especially Saber. I really think they didn't know what to do with her so they went with the moe route. I only wonder which was written by Nasu and what by other writers.
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>>118089751
I liked making her a foodie, that's decently funny at least.
>>118089846
Yes it counts. Also: after beating the main game, a weird scene unlocks in Chateau Emiya with all the girls at night, also remember to check out the school on the morning of the first day because that's a different map. Lots of people miss the Rin event there which unlocks first her date and then her Eclipse event. Once you've done everything else you unlock one final scene.
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>>118089751
>>118089987
>tfw only the Hanafuda prevents me from getting 100%

fuck your traditional japanese card game, I just want 100%
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>>118090072
Just download a save file
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>>118090072
What? I have 100% and I've never clicked Hanafuda even once. Unless you mean the Hanafuda story events in which case don't worry, those autoplay it the one time the game itself shows up.
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>>118090153
then I must have done something wrong, I done all events and I'm still somewhere at 98% percent

>>118090147
tried before, didn't work
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>>118090251
Did the Bazette Eclipse scene unlock? Because that's the last thing and watching it is what brings you up to 100%.

If it hasn't unlocked, you haven't seen all events.
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The ending really pulled on my heartstrings. Everything about it was just beautiful.
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>>118090459
It gave me a similar feeling to last episode in that it feels very cheesy and chunni, but it works amazingly.
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>>118088877
That's because you, the reader, are Angra Manyu. You are self-inserting as Shirou, repeating those four ordinary days, but eventually you get tired of seeing the same thing over and over again and proceed to the finale.
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>>118090622
Never thought of that. Makes it seem kind of genius though it doesn't excuse the monotony at all.
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>>118090622
Shirou is too much of a realized character to self-insert, the reason that scene is so strong is Angra is giving up the only happiness he's ever felt so Baz can be free.
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>>118090797
Well, maybe self insert is the wrong word. It's more accurate to say that you're viewing them through Shirou's eyes. You're doing the same thing Avenger did: "Oh, this go around I'll go to the pool with Saber, then take Rider on a date." Repeat until you're bored with it.
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>Gil using Ea against a bunch of dogs
Yeah, it was a dream alright.
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I've finished HA but I haven't read KT yet. Is it better or worse?
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You know, I always thought Avenger looked like Shirou before I actually had the chance to play this. I'm not the only one that had this gut feeling, right?
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>>118090910
It's not a dream. All the actors are really there, they just don't retain their memories and state because of the time loop. That's why Karen said they'll all experience Deja Vu afterward, because they're all taking part in the play. The only ones who can retain their memories properly are Karen and Baz because of their connection to Angra.
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>>118091049
His appearance is hidden for most of HA. You're not supposed to know what he looks like for exactly that reason.
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>>118091049
The eyes are a dead giveaway
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>>118091049
I think it's pretty obvious. Actually the first time I saw the character art I thought it was supposed to be from one of FSN's bad ends.
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>>118091049
>>118091024
KT is worse, just as Tsukihime is generally worse, because they are earlier works. KT's biggest problem is that the engine means you're navigating entirely via text menus, you need a walkthrough to unlock everything in that insane game.

There's still cool parts though, especially in the sidestories.
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>>118091187
>tsukihime is generally worse
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>>118091087
So everyone was really fucked by Angra? Dayum.
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>>118091049
I never noticed it before even though I was spoiled on Angra's role as Shirou, I'd only ever seen fanart of him and that's always with his headband. But when you see the actual sprite yeah it's IMMEDIATELY obvious (hence why he'd a shadow most of the game), especially without the headband when he's got Shirou's hair.
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i still don't understand how Sakura got so good with her powers Why is her arm the only part of her that has that sash instead of her having that shadow dress she had in heaven's feel? Something about limiters so she won't blacken?
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>>118091272
No, just Caren. Eclipse is in the real world, only the main game is the loop. That's why the epilogue is in Eclipse and why the Track and Field girls don't recognize the Servants in their Eclipse story.
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>>118091346
Also even in the main game Angra's not normally in the driver's seat, he's just hiding inside Shirou.
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>>118091307
Obviously some time has passed since f/sn, she's been training.
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I'm about 50% through,having a blast.

By the way who's this master they're talking about ? Uryuu ? I was under the impression that being target of headhunting isn't exactly heavy penalty.
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>>118091266
I love Tsukihime but that game mostly does not hold up that well. That's not a bad thing, it means Nasu is a writer who improves. I look forward to that remake coming out at some point.

Also if the true timeline, Melty Blood, follows Satsuki Normal, what does Hollow follow? Ayako Normal?
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>>118091518
Uryu yes. And the severe penalty is more the part where Risei declared all other combat suspended because Uryu was straight up a Masquerade threat.
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>>118091586
Ilya Normal, of course.
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By the way, does anyone know of a way to get more money for the shrine other than the good luck charms (since getting bad luck can make you lose money)?
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>>118091586
Hollow follows everything and/or nothing
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>>118091663
No that's where Archer comes from.
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>>118091658
With the help of a command seal!
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>>118091187
Most stupid opinion I've heard all week.
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>>118091087
Technically, Caren doesn't remember it at all. It's the one and only regret that Avenger had at the end.
His meeting and scenes with the others will remain as fiction/deja vu in the minds of others but his interactions with Caren will completely vanish into nothingness because in the correct timeline, he/Shirou/Avenger never met her.

And yeah before you point out, the last Bazett Eclipse is non-canon by Nasu. Er more like pseudo-non-canon in the sense that Bazett did move in to Emiya residence but that scene itself was fake as Rider and Saber still existed etc etc.
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>>118091981
Rider and Saber still exist because the real world of Hollow is Fate's equivalent of Melty Blood. "Everyone's here." "Why?" "Who fucking cares?"
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>>118090251
The same thing happened to me. The scene you're missing is most likely the "not continuing main story" scene. Like those moments where you get a chance to continue the main story by entering or not entering a house, or meeting or not meeting Caren at Ryuudou Temple. If you don't choose the "not" option, then you continue with the main story and miss a simple scene of Shirou going "Oh, I guess I don't actually feel like going over there right now."
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>>118091675
Play hanafuda
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>>118092079
Glad to see the gooks keep up good traditions.
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>>118089587
Never. He already perfect as he is.
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>>118092631
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>>118089587
>Shiki redesign
Why?
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>>118092703
What the fuck is wrong with him? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Shiki?
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>>118092867
Tohno gland
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>>118092867
Everything is fine, what do you talking about?
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>>118092893
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Why is the first vita OP so good?

http://a.pomf.se/flnmny.webm
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>>118092867
He seems alright.
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>>118092928
Those uniforms are actually pretty badass in real life.
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>>118093075

>Not posting the second

Anon you can do better

http://a.pomf.se/zuxlhy.mp4
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>>118087770
>video game
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>>118093075
>>118093195
I like the original ones a lot better.
Not to mention the music was vastly superior.
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>>118093242
The animation too???
Well I guess there are different tastes
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>>118093242
Okay, so what's with the boobshot sweaters of Arcueid in pixiv?
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This is pretty much Saber's personality in HA isn't it?
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>>118093352
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>>118093195
I would, but I'm not a fan of montages where characters are doing flips at the camera for seemingly no reason.

Sakura looks great in though.
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>>118093352
To be fair it is pretty cute.
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>>118093352
It's pretty hard to write Saber in a situation like HA.
A huge part of her character is how she single-mindedly pursued an objective to the detriment of all else, which she did in the HGW but can't do in HA

So yes, her character is pretty flat in HA.

Pic unrelated, it's a better Saber.
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>>118093460

True. But it`s the climax of HA, every climax needs meaningless flips
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>>118093511
Isn't that faggot the reason why Saber died in that battle in the first place?
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Best Saber
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>>118093621
I should have cropped it before.
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>>118093621
She's just upset her game will never be remade.Like Asagi always being passed over in Nippon Ichi titles
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>>118093581
>>118093752
Dat shit's kawaii.
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>>118092292
I had never seen hanafuda before that faceoff with Shinji and I've never been so confused since the first time I watch Akagi (I still don't understand Mahjong).
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I'm bored, dumping a doujin. A profusion of Akiha.
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Where did you download HA?
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it's pretty disturbing how they've all been invaded by cats.
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>>118093581
I think that's the loli murder Prototype Saber
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>>118088394

Bazett has a white knight-savior woman complex. She fell for him in that sense and is unaware of her real feelings (dense). That's why she doesn't get she likes Lancer but everyone in the room does.
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In the end, who did Avenger love more? Karen or Bazett?
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>>118094806
His last regret was that Caren wouldn't remember him while at least everyone else would sorta like they've experienced something before Caren would completely forget him. Besides he actually fucked Caren while Bazett remains a virgin.
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>>118094852

But he gave up all of that for Bazett. I think he loved Bazett more. She just friendzoned him.

The constant symbolism of the flower = Bazett (she's the one surrounded by that mountain flower in the official art) and the woman he couldn't hate. I don't feel Bazett would have returned his feelings, though.
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>>118094852

I think Bazette and Avenger loved each other more than anyone (Kotomine, Caren, Lancer, etc) but the love their shared wasn't romantic, at least not Bazette's (you can argue Avenger's feelings, he was very attracted at least).
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The end.
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Is FHA get kinda out there and metaphysical like Nasu's other stuff? I love that shit.
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>>118095689
The main story is very much so.
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>>118094952
>>118095012
Avenger and Bazette are probably the closest platonic relationship in Fate.
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The school play scene was great
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>>118096008
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>>118095689
It barely makes more sense by the end than it does in the beginning. It requires alternate reality merges and time looping for its main story to even function. Maybe.
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I thought I was close to finishing it but then I saw I was just over halfway through

How long did it take you to finish it? Longer than stay night?
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Which subs do I want to Fate/Zero and UBW?
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>>118096487
UTW for Zero, Horrible for UBW because UTW's dead now.
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Sakura is really boring. I don't hate her or anything but she has nothing interesting about her personality. Underneath the tragic victim their's just nothing.
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>>118096456
55 hours
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>>118096550
You could say the same for Saber. That's why Rin and IIya are best girls. Bazett would be one too but she's old shit like Taiga.
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>>118096007

Closest because Avenger wanted to fuck her but couldn't.
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>>118096456
It's not that long, although I'm not done yet
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>>118096578
Saber is at least fleshed out to death so you know what she's thinking.
Sakura flips between "I hope senpai notices me" and "I'm gonna kill everyone."
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>>118096550
I've been skipping most of her scenes in HA because they're almost always about cooking or her being jealous of rider.
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>>118096649
I've noticed that as well
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>>118096615
>87.4%
>11 h 52m
FUCKING HOW?
I'm at 40h and 89.7%
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>>118096668
Or asking Shirou whether she's fat or not.
The SOL scenes with the main 3 girls are a fucking chore to read.
Best scenes are with Cu, KoGil, Shinji and Issei,
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>>118096615
>11h 52m

How? I'm at 70% and around 30 hours
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>>118096893
He clearly viewed plot scenes only, never let it idle, and never spent time on the mini-games. Probably skipped past some of the less important plot scenes too
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Hanafuda is hella fun
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>>118096578
>old shit like Taiga
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>>118096853
Holy flipping crap, I've never been more scared of a smile since yandere face Aoi. Is that the "bad end" after she catches Shirou and Shinji reading her diary
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>>118096952
Taiga and Ilya's scenes are great too. Could have done without the maids for Ilya, though.
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>>118096952
Lancer scenes are fantastic, especially the flower shop one with Ayako.

Also I hate that I've only had 1 or 2 conversations with archer and a plot conversation.
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When do I get slice of life bazett scenes in H/A?
Do I REALLY have to go through the sex scenes?
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>>118096952
And Kuzuki's flashback, and the Illya scenes, and the (2?) scenes Archer has.
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>>118096966
I didn't skip any plot scenes or any of the non-plot scenes. The only scenes I skimmed were the sex scenes
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>>118097141
bazett is tied to the plot if you want any ridiculous antics from her you'll have to read the One Day doujin or watch that one episode of Carnival Phantasm. I don't know if they let her into antics in prisma iiya because I refuse to watch that shit.
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So. Is the black panther a lesbian then?
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>>118097104
I want more of Archer wearing his fishing vest and hat
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>>118097044
Illya's were fine whenever she was in sister mode.
Like when she went full chaperone in Sakura and Shirou's date.

It's when she goes into "I want your dick" mode that I can't stand her. Like in the pool scene.
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I'm still disappointed that the CP anime didn't adapt this.
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>>118097104
>especially the flower shop one with Ayako
I want Cu to woo me with flowers.
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>>118097188
Kuzuki's flashback was 10/10.
One of the best in all the VN.
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