Jobber class servent

>>117661961
She is actually quite strong, but having Shinji as a Master nerfs her a lot.

In the next route she recovers her real strength and actually wins the war.

>>117661961
That is the problem of having a shit non-Master like Shinji as a Master.

When she is with her original Master she is actually pretty good.

>>117661961
Wait for HF.

>>117662136
>and actually wins the war.
Hides until no other servant is there anymore.
Still gets BTFO off by Alter

>>117662315
Let's see, once she recovers her real strength she wrecks True Assassin, almost defeats Archer and wins against Saber Alter with Shirou's help.

Oh, and survives the whole ordeal.

She gets far better than Lancer, Caster or almost any of the other Servants not being Saber.

>>117662426
>>117662315
>She gets far better than Lancer, Caster or almost any of the other Servants not being Saber.
I mean, she gets a better battle record.

>>117662315
She wins against Alter, she is helped by Shirou but Rider does almost all the job.

>>117662503
She is near death after tanking the black excaliblast.

>>117662529
Any other Servant would be just dead after that. The reason why she survived was after all Bellerephon insane defense and Rho Aias making it just even better enough to tank Excalibur.

And more than nearly dead, she just needed a bit of rest.

>>117662503
She doesn't win stop being silly. even Saber under Shirou could beat bellephron, Shirou is the only reason she "wins" in that match up otherwise she'd be destroyed.

>>117662673
Shirou just gives her the enough margin to win. Any other Servant (not being Gilgamesh) + Shirou would have been destroyed by Alter.

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shitty servant who is not even worth as a woman

should have gone with this guy instead or that egyptian dude from prototype

>>117662673
>Saber under Shirou could beat bellephron
Yes, by using a full powered Excaliblast and getting almost dry and nearly dead after doing it.

>>117662771
Perseus only got a A ranked Bellerephon.

And he is wrecked by Proto Saber the same way.

>>117662673
Saber Alter is just that good. It is said that she is even stronger than she was when alive.

So asking the HA Fags, How strong really is Rider under Sakura?

Top3 out of all the servants in FS/N?

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>>117662928
If she goes full monster, insanely strong.

In Servant mode, she is probably on mid-high.

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>>117663025
>If she goes full monster, insanely strong.
Going Monster in a war between Heroes is probably the stupidest thing she could do.

http://a.pomf.se/iemsch.webm

I felt this was necessary.

>>117662928
>muh wormslut

Not really, she's still behind Saber/Herc/Cu and even Archer

>>117663052
Yes, but it depends on the hero too. The ones with monster slaying attributes are the ones that would be better against her, like Lancer.

At the end, the only reason why Perseus won was the Kibisis after all, even with his lots of NPs.

>>117662928
Id say she's tied with Cu in 3rd place behind Herk and Saber if you dont count Gil

>>117663092
I would say Gilgamesh at the top, Saber, Berserker and Lancer after him and a bit lower Archer and Rider.

>>117663114
Nasu rewriting the legends is so fucking stupid sometimes.
>>117663137
I'd put Cu above her.
He's a fucking beast but Kotomine's only goal is nerfing him as hard as possible

>>117663161
Yes, Cu is definitely higher than Rider or Archer, really.

>>117662928
She loses to Herc no matter how you slice it, and so long as Arturia has access to Excalibur, she'll win too. Medea has poor compatibility with her because her horse has functional EX Magic Resistance, like all Phantasm Races of that level, so she probably beats Medea, but Medea does better against Servant-level people like the DAAs. She wrecks both Assassins, easily, and she beats EMIYA because Bellerophon > Aius, which is what Nasu said the battle ends up coming down to. Cu's iffy, it's a fight with some chances, even with Sakura as a Master. Cu's got runes to counter her Mystic Eyes and probably wins in straight combat, but Medusa's got the bigger trump card. Then again, Cu has monsterslaying affinity, Medusa doesn't have LCK to handle the Anti-Unit Gae Bolg, and Cu can apparently boost the rank of Gae Bolg temporarily with runes, which might let its Anti-Army use stand against Bellerophon, so it's hard to say. I'd probably give it to Cu, though, but that could go either way.

So she beats all but 2 or 3 of the Fifth War Servants.

Not counting Gil because Gil.

>>117663161
>Nasu rewriting the legends is so fucking stupid sometimes.
He has to translate them to the Nasuverse and make them coherent with it, so it is totally needed. They also want to create characters, not just carbon copies of myths. Fate is not a mythology book after all, and even those are pretty incoherent and lack sense most of the time due to the whole medium they are drawn from.

>>117663273
>He has to translate them to the Nasuverse and make them coherent with it, so it is totally needed
How is changing Medusa's complete story needed?

>>117663158
I didn't include Gil because it is common knowledge that he's the strongest Servant in the series.

No amount of waifu faggotry will bump Medusa to the likes of King Arthur, Heracles, that potato fuck and MC from the far future.

>gets laser beamed
>no NPs to contain God Hand
>nerfed
>UBW and Caladbolg spam, oh yes he also does not miss unlike Goldie

>>117663331
UBW would do nothing against Bellerephon dragon level defense. UBW is actually said to be just a annoyance to the other Servants that are not Gil, that is why Archer does not spam it.

>>117663396
That's why that anon said Caladbolg spam

>>117663415
That is A rank, so it would be tanked too by Bellerephon A+ and defense. You need something like Excalibur, that is the point.

>>117663415
>Caladbolg spam
One BP Caladbolg cost him more than half of his prana, you can't really spam those.

>>117661961
why are secondarys so dumb pls kill yourself

>>117663317
Because he had to make it sympathetic and he even went with the whole interpretation of her being a victim too (that it wasn't even made up, it is pretty common nowadays.) Add to that the tons of versions the Medusa myth has, some of them totally contradictory.

shinji would have fared better if he summoned achilles, perseus or even saint george

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>>117663625
>saint george
Art thou a dragon?

>>117663625
First, Shinji did not summon shit.

Second, he would have nerfed those to oblivion too.

>>117663317
The nasu version is actually quite similar to Ovid's version of Medusa's myth

>>117663052
So doesnt that mean that shiki can kill servants since he is human?

>>117663667
Saint George is lawful good, he would have slapped Shinji for raping his own sister

>>117663841
>not turned him into a dragon and rode him into battle
apply yourself

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>>117663828
Shiki killing demons so he's a hero

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Why didn't rider use a neck protector instead of a eye protector? I bet she would see the enemy coming that way.

>>117663952
His eyes are heroes. He's just a scrawny kid with a knife.

>>117664010
>He's just a scrawny kid with a knife.
Who's also a trained super-assassin

>>117661961
wtf why is this bitch a rider? she doesn't even ride anything

>>117664035
Yeah, I bet he can super-assassinate many things.

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>>117664073
Yup, like dragons for example

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>>117664065
I know something that she can ride

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>>117664065
>she doesn't even ride anything

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>>117664116
>He literaly shits out Dragons and Unicorns
Fucking Nero Chaos

>>117664065
She rides a fucking Pegasus.

>>117664065
She rides Shirou's cock

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>>117664065

>>117663077
>not using the dope version

what a fag

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>>117664179
But he doesn't even owns a farm.

>>117664065
1. Pegasus: A+
2. Shinji: B+
3. Shirou: C

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Why didn't Rider just use her pony to defeat Kuzuki?

>>117664271
Because under Shinji she needs to get the magical energy from everyone in the school to do it. It is explained in Saber's route.

>>117664307
So she has to have mana transfer with everyone at school? What a slut.

>>117664271
because shinji is not a magus,

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>>117664373
More like to melt everyone into goo.

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If you haven't played all routes of the visual novel, please refrain from posting and lurk instead. Thank you.

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>>117664065

So what if a Kamen Rider was summoned to be a Rider? Black RX defeats all.

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>>117665045
Achilles has a scarf, that counts?

>>117665449
Maybe, does he do kicks?

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Gatekeeper farmer > saber

>>117665538
Yes, he even attacks with his heel for surprise of everyone.

>>117665868
And gets completly outplayed by Archer of Black in every turn

>>117665927
Not in that fight actually. He outplays Archer with the whole heel kick.