Serious question. Is Chaika considered a loli or not?

Nah.

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>>117575173
No, the faggots that do have no idea what they're talking about. Now Feddie IS a loli,and a damn fine one at that.

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>>117575173
I don't think she really looks it at all in the anime, but the LN design seems more loli, but still not quite.

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>>117575275
She doesn't look that loli in the LN either

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>>117575173
She's not even close to a loli.

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>>117575173
I want to cuddle with red Chaika.

>>117575173
>14 years old
>has boobs and a hipline
>loli
nah

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>>117575173
Yes, he body type puts her just in loli.

No, but she is 1005 olev.

>>117575649
>boobs
>hip line
>>117575675

Age is irreverent.

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Serious question.
Is Toru considered a good MC or not?

>>117575726
>Toru
>MC

>>117575726
Of coursh

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>>117575726
>He dosen't want to fuck Akari.
Chaika is the MC

>>117575792
He has great taste.

>>117575746
>>117575792
Toru Akari Chaika and Fredrika are all main characters. There is no one main character.

Underage=loli

>ib4 loli is a body type

>>117575726
I don't mind him
His stupid fucking hair annoys me, but he doesn't do anything worth disliking him for.
He's not particularly interesting or anything either though.
He helps the plot move while chaikas and freddies do things, which is all he needs to do, and he doesn't detract from the show while doing it.

>>117576480
>17 years old
>loli
murrika, plz.

>>117575173
Borderline loli. Not quite a loli, not quite an old hag.

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>>117576480
It is a body type.

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>>117576669
>not quite an old hag
No where even close to being an old hag, you mean.

>>117575752
>>>/tv/

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You! Drown, in ideals. Die!

>>117576695
>draw a loli and say that she is not underage
>b-but she has 42 years old so loli is a body type
>implying a 42 years old lady could have a loli´s body

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>>117576781

>>117576695
Sauce?

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>>117576884
>draw a loli
Thanks for proving my point and admitting you are wrong. Have another.

>>117575173
she is considered a semen demon that feeds on the semen of men

>>117575726
Toru definitely isn't a bad MC, but by no means does that mean he's a good one.

>>117576920
It's not a doujin sadly.

>>117576920
boku no revenge

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>>117576920
Google it, you lazy shit. It's the first result.

>>117576884
Did you just try to argue against yourself?

>>117575173
Petite is not loli.

>>117577128
As expected of a /a/non!

>>117577128
He's so stupid he doesn't even realize he just proved himself wrong.

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>>117577224
Guarantee this is the idiot who just made himself look like a retard and now is resorting to bait.

>>117577017
It doesn't matter.

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>>117576936
Holy shit, it's literally called Boku no Grandma.
I did not see that coming.

>>117577365
What do you think "Boku no" means?

>>117577358
Reverse search give it.

>>117577365
What's eve funnier is when people don't believe that's the real name, even though it's in the image.

>>117577358
It's called Masamune, and it's a manga about a legendary sword of great power that is briefly wielded by Alucard in his quest to slay his father and creates powerful whirlwinds of death that look like fajita peppers from Chipotle. It is used almost three hundred years later by Soma Cruz as a mere stepping stone on the way to the superior Muramasa.

>>117575173
I don't think so. Her body is too defined already to still be considered loli. Frederica has more of a loli body type.
However, I would say that she's borderline, so some might still classify her as loli.

>>117577411
I don't even know anymore thanks to you assholes.

>>117577539
Her and Freddy body are almost identical. So both are loli.

>>117576480
>ib4 loli is a body type
Of course it is. Cartoon characters have no physical age. Loli is and has always been a body type.

Otherwise immortal vampire lolis wouldn't be lolis, which is obviously nonsense as the term loli should already tell you.

>>117575173
It doesn't matter because in the end her smile exists to be protected.

>>117577579
Frederica looks a bit younger than Chaika. I'd draw the line pretty between loli- and not-loli somewhere between Frederica and Chaika. But as I said: Chaika is still borderline loli, so someone with less strict definitions much still classify her as such and he wouldn't necessarily be wrong.

>>117577582
Don't try to argue. We once had an anon who claimed that any loli who smoked was not a loli.

>>117577662
She is only slightly different, that slight difference is not enough to separate them.

>>117577730
In my opinion it is, because that slight difference is where I draw the line.

>>117577751
How can a line be draw over something almost identical? Because Chaika is like a year older and maybe one size bigger in the waist?

>>117577730
By that logic if you watched an anime about a girl growing uo, so long as there's no timeskip she'd always be loli. I mean, each time she grows it's only a slight difference.

>>117577829
What you said makes no sense. If she grows up and her body grows she stops being a loli, if her body never change then age is irrelevant and she is still a loli.

>>117575173
No, she is just a naturally boyish-shaped girl. She is like 15 as well, too old to be considered a loli, and I think her face looks a little too mature.

>>117577902
But each time she changes it's only slightly different.

>>117577789
>How can a line be draw over something almost identical?
The line needs to go somewhere. Reading up on Dedekind Cuts and solutions to Zeno's paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise might help.

>Because Chaika is like a year older and maybe one size bigger in the waist?
Yes.

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>>117577931
>too old to be considered a loli
>implying age matters
This loli is in her 20's.

>>117577951
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>117577980
why is she sitting like that?

>>117577951
Which means she grows up and will stop being a loli after a time. If she doesn't change then ot would still be loli.

>>117577977
Your using an overly strict definition. She is much much closer to loli, you're acting like she is as different to Freddy as Akari is to her.

>>117578099
I think it's that one guy again who contradicted himself earlier.

>>117578135
meant for >>117578094

>>117578099
Maybe she's too short for the table.

Definately not, she is just skinny. Her proportions and face make her look too old to be a loli. Her waist/hip ratio is to big and her legs are pretty long.

>>117578432
That's some bait or are you just a retard?

>>117578501
But he's right, she's tall enough and has enough hips to be borderline.

>>117578602
Why are people associating "loli" with flat, again?
I thought "loli" meant a fucking little underage girl.

>>117578602
>he
She is short as hell even in platform shoes, and ass seen here >>117576708 and here >>117575675 Her hips are almost non existent.

>>117578100
>Your using an overly strict definition. She is much much closer to loli, you're acting like she is as different to Freddy as Akari is to her.
I'm not using an overly strict definition. Any definition is strict in a certain area. If I draw a line, then I might also find elements that are really close to that line and where some people might argue that they still meet the definition somehow because they're "really close". Then I could argue: okay, let's not make it a line - let's put a boundary around that line and things that are close to a certain degree still fit. But even that boundary has a certain outer edge, where I could redraw my line and where some people might argue my definition is overly strict. And if I then relocated my boundaries to further widen my definition then I could repeat it ad infinitum and I'd be stuck with everything belonging.

Again: a line has to be drawn somewhere. Even if you make it not a line but an area, then you can still find a supremum and you're stuck with a line again.

>>117578094
Yes. To show you why your reasoning in >>117577730 is flawed. Either a slight difference can be the difference between loli and not loli, or a girl that undergoes a series of slight changes will always remain loli.
>>117578100
But according to >>117577730 slight differences do not make a difference.

>>117578630
Loli is the bodytype of a prepubescent girl. Chaika has obviously reached puberty and is not a loli.

>>117578630
>I thought "loli" meant a fucking little underage girl.
Then you'd be wrong.
>>117578805
Loli is not prepubescent. Loli is either prepubescent or early pubescent. If it was just prepubescent then we wouldn't be having this conversation and no one would call Ro-kyu-bu loliball.

>>117578787
First of all, I'm not even >>117577730

Secondly, what did was take the "slight difference" part, take it out of context and replied with a non-sequitur that proves absolutely nothing

>>117578787
You weren't talking about a slight difference, you were talking about repeated slight changes over time resulting on massive change AKA growing up. This is not a valid argument when comparing two girls of similar and pretty much identical body types.

>>117578805
>reached puberty
Irrelevant, her body is still in the loli territory. After puberty is done then she might not be anymore.

>>117578914
>>117578927
In case you didn't get it, the point is that one of the slight changes would make her no longer loli. For the other anon, the point at which that slight change falls is the one between Frederika and Chaika is that point. Thus your argument that it's just a "small difference, so they either both have to be loli or neither is" fails.

>>117577980
I thought she was in her 30s or something, it's stated she's the oldest of any of the main girls

>>117579073
>the point is that one of the slight changes would make her no longer loli
No it doesn't. A girl doesn't stop being loli because there is a smaller loli around. They are both loli in their present state.

>>117579073
And in case you didn't get it, what I said is that what you posted had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

>>117579178
Thought it was 20's, I thought at one point it was about to say her age and she cut them off and stopped them.

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>>117578805
Does this look like prepubescent girl to you?

>>117579337
Where? Behind that horrid troll you posted?

>>117579209
That's not what anyone is saying.
>>117579251
How does it not? Your point was that a small change cannot make a difference, I provided an example where, regardless of your definition of loli, a small change would make a difference.

>>117575173
Would Chaika make a good wife and mommy?

>>117579387
see
>>117578927
>You weren't talking about a slight difference, you were talking about repeated slight changes over time resulting on massive change

>>117579442
Yes, once she learns to cook without destroying the food

>>117579387
But you, I believe it's still you, who said yes when asked why is Chaika not loli because she is like one waist size bigger and one year older then Freddy's loli from. Freddy being slightly smaller does not take away form Chaika being loli.

>>117579387
Anon, don't worry, your analogy is perfectly sound. People on /a/ are just dumb.

>>117579442
Always.

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>>117579442
Red is prime breeding material but white is #1 mom material.

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>>117575173

Too old.

>>117579457
But there has to be a point at which she stops being loli. I am not just saying look at one end, then at the other. I am saying look at each individual step. In one of those steps she will stop being a loli.
>>117579496
Actually it was not, that was >>117578725. I am making no arguments to whether or not Chaika is a loli. Just that a small change can matter in determining loliness.

>>117579534
[SAMEFAGGING INTENSIFIES]

>>117579575
But not in this case as I have been saying.

>>117579575
Yes, your point is right, but your analogy was full retard

>>117579599
Actually it's not. I don't support that, and if >>117579534 wanted to help, they could have tried providing an alternate explanation.

>>117579599
No. I just don't understand why you and that other anon are being so dense about this. >>117579575
has more than adequately explained the situation. The only possible way you could not see and acknowledge his point would be if you have no actual interest in learning and just want to languish in your own ignorance.

>>117575726
he gets shit done at least, without being a wimp

thats enough for me

>>117579683
>they could have tried providing an alternate explanation.
Why would I bother with that. Your analogy is perfectly fine and you've done an adequate job explaining it. It's probably the the most efficient way to describe what you mean. The problem is with >>117579682 having reached the point of self-confident stupidity that he dismisses everything that disagrees with him as just being stupid.

>>117579813
At least try to change your posting style when trying to samefag.

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>>117579337
>chest size is the only thing that changes during puberty

>>117579666
Then argue about why the specific small changes don't matter, and don't say "small changes don't matter"

Look, at this point there's nothing more for me to say, so just go back to arguing with >>117578725.

>>117579764
I like Toru since he's pretty much antithesis of most recent MCs.
>hurr I want world peace!
>killing is bad!
>I must be 100% lawful/chaotic good!
>doesn't go "Huh? Please explain" when asked for the T, just refuses

>>117579847
Most of the "loli's" have secondary sexual characteristics. Flat chest is one of the few that actually seems to matter.

>>117579932
They are both loli, the only reason he or you said she isn't was because Freddy's loli form was smaller. Freddy's smaller size done not affect Chaika. Not only but to even say they have a difference in size would be hard to prove, they look at least 90% the same.

>>117579813
For fuck's sake I already said that I agree with what he says, I'm just saying that his analogy was bogus and come out of fucking nowhere, here it is what the discussion has been so far

>The differences between Chaika and Freddie aren't enough to put them on different categories
>BUT WHAT IF YOU ARE WATCHING ONE OF THOSE SHOWS WHERE CHARACTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GROWING UP BUT LOOK THE SAME, THAT TOTALLY PROVES YOU WRONG
>Dude that was retarded
>NO IT WASN'T YOU ARE JUST JELLY.

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>>117580031
>Flat chest is one of the few that actually seems to matter.
>what is oppai loli

>>117580079
An abomination.

>>117580100
Yes, but still loli.

>>117580040
see >>117579575
I am not arguing about whether or not they are loli. Please stop replying to me.

>>117580114
Only in age since giant tits are the opposite of prepubescent.

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>>117580042