Work on your Art

Not anime.

Ripped this off from the /co/ "work on your art" Batman Threads. Edited some stuff for better context.

The environment here is much more lax and encouraging than in /ic/, and is generally more about having fun rather than engaging in rigorous studies and minutely perfecting our technique. Despite this, please keep the following in mind:

Rules:
> 1. Post your art.
> 2. Critique other people's art.
> 3. Accept/Reject critique and make better art in the meantime!
> 4. Do 2 without being an asshole or pushing advice on things you don't actually understand. It's fine to give your take on things regardless of skill level though.
> 5. Do 3 without being a defensive prick. Not all critique is constructive or valid, but rejecting the comments that are gets you nowhere.
> 6. Have fun!

> /r/-ing [X]
Try the /a/ drawthread, instead.

> How do I get better in general?/How do I get started?
Read and do the /ic/ sticky.

> How do I draw [X]?
Draw that object/body part from life until you're blue in the face.

>>117494646
So post your anime drawings.

>>117494465
baka gaijins cant draw /thread

>>117494713
Manga drawings would be better.

>Look guys I'm drawing manga
That's not how it works.

>>117494713
We have a drawfag thread. Go beg for people's approval there.

If only >>>/ic/ existed for exactly this purpose.
Oh wait! Fuck off!

>>117494465
This was tried like two years ago and the started getting deleted after about two weeks of them going on.

on an off chance you are not a faggot I give you a hint
go to pixiv
search akapen
???
PROFIT

>>117494840
Well I'll give it a shot. I'd like to see people post some work. I'm here to help for a few hours. If it gets deleted, no loss. I didn't exactly put in a lot of effort copypasting info.

And maybe I'll try it another day like a monday morning when things are slower.

>>117494830

It's funny, they even have constant "anime/stylized" threads now. This thread has no purpose.

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>>117494883
What am I looking at?

>>117494912
Anon, as someone who draws a comic: Why would I post my art or project? That's just asking to be shitposted to oblivion. It was a nice idea, but /a/ is really not the place. I speak as a frequent visitor of /ic/.

>>117494969
It exists because the OP liked the hugbox it created elsewhere and doesn't understand that /a/ is not elsewhere and the rules, hell even the userbase, are not so lightly to allow these kind of things.

>>117494883
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=59317 spoonfeeding lazy faggots
this link has EVERYTHING you need to be able to draw. disregard gaijin shit

manga studio 5, yea or nay?

>>117495205
If you want to make comics, then very yea.

>>117495205
yea get it on cgpeers

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>/a/ - consume/buy/leech/destroy/waste/dispose/hate/corrupt

Keep it up gents. Your reputation cannot be tainted in any way.

>>117494465
http://www.youtube.com/user/envstr/videos
awesome series about japanese top artists workflow. knowledge of moon is required

>>117495205
get CLIP http://www.clipstudio.net/en/purchase it's fucking $50 and all updates are free

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This is a bit old but I think this thread could use some drawings.

>implying I can draw for shit
Any music makers here? Why are there no threads about music?

>>117496171
alright a strong entry! cool shit anon. Any plans to color it?

>>117496171
arms are too short, shoulders too wide

wouldn't fug

>>117496239
on appropriate boards

>>117496239
fuck it post it here. What do you have?

>>117496249
Haha, thanks for the compliment. I did want to color it and fix a couple of things but I'm so damn slow at coloring because I'm still pretty new to it, and this pic has all these little details... tbh I'm not sure I ever will.

>>117496277
/mu/ barely ever discusses production, if at all.

>>117496291
https://soundcloud.com/point-seven-four
My latest track is probably my best.

>>117496138
aren't they the same thing?

>>117496171
One thing I could tell you is that you should work bigger! You did a decent job cropping the wings, but it seems as if you are confined to the paper.

>>117496328
>/mu/ barely ever discusses production, if at all.
Yeah i noticed, that's really too bad.

Hmmm why not make an AMV or something? Wouldn't mind seeing that to this music.

>>117496448
Don't really have the hard drive space for any video editing software, and I've never really been a fan of AMVs.

>>117496333
Yeah I've started getting more into drawing in photoshop lately so I don't have to worry about hitting an "edge" anymore, I can just enlarge the canvas. I thought that would've been big enough, that was an 8.5x11, but I underestimated, especially on the wings. I don't have the same control drawing digitally yet but I'm working on it.

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>>117494465
>not Japanese
>trying to become manga creator

>>117496332
Yes. Clip Studio Paint (Pro and EX) is just the digital download version of Manga Studio.

Keep an eye on the Smith Micro site as they usually have a sale around this time with massively reduced prices (and/or check Amazon).

>>117496520
It's possible though

>>117496520
There is a small group of black people living in Korea animating right now and the Japanese are cooperating with them. What's your excuse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYJ0VswdBOA

And who cares. If it's a hobby it's worth it to help each other out. Surely you have something you like to make? Why not post it here?

>>117496520
No one's trying to make manga. They're just drawing. Some of their art might resemble a style associated with Japan, but we have to remember, manga isn't a style

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>>117496588
Indeed it is. Pic related: Paul Pope's "Supertrouble", published by Kodansha.

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>>117494465
Having just finished 3rd season of Bakuman I think I can safely say "NOPE" to ever becoming a manga artist. I could never work that hard or care that much. I can draw reasonably well but it's really not that fun to be perfectly honest.

>>117496171
neat. I like the triangle underboob

>>117494465
If you already know there's a thread for this on /ic/ why the fuck would you make one here?

>>117496686
Paul Pope is one of the best comic artists in the world. If this doesn't invigorate you guys to make some cool shit

>>117496689
You don't have to work for the Japanese or their crazy mangaka schedule, just make a weekly 4-8 panel webcomic. Look at all the success stories.

Once again this isn't about making a career, just post some creative stuff. The draw thread is for serving peoples masturbatory fantasies. On here you can make what YOU want.

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>>117494465
>>>117496138
where can i get more reference like this

>>117496726
1. Not everyone likes posting on /ic/
2. The stylization thread can be anything, /a/ "Work on your Art" thread would be specifically helping out you anime dudes.
3. Different audience, different volume of users and contributers.

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>>117496879

>>117496879
flickr
form design reference books
image bank libraries
product design booklets

>>117496802
Speaking of which there is so much quality hentai doujinshi available for Bakuman, truly the mark of a great anime!

>>117496633
Shit, that's kind of cool..
>>117496702
Thanks, but I didn't design the costume. It's supposed to be Nina from I think Breath of Fire? Not sure, it wasn't a game I played, just a request in a /v/ drawthread. They wanted her newest design with larger breasts lol

>>117496270
On most people I see, the wrists usually end up at or just below the waist line. Given that, I would say these are too long to work on a normal person. For the picture though, it works just fine.
Not the artist, by the way.

>>117496633
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/473463284/cannon-busters-the-animated-series-pilot
Do want

>>117497125
I would say the torso is slightly shorter than it should be, but it's not like it is anatomically incorrect or anything. Not that guy.

I'm trying to get better at drawing, but I usually get confused as to where to start.
Like for instance when I see how many aspects there are to art and what is important I get kinda overwhelmed and try to learn everything at once if that makes sense.
Like one day I'll work on people, another I'll try and do buildings or some shit.

As of right now, I got that one michael hampton book and am currently reading through that trying to pace myself.

>>117496686
>Donald duck comics
Brunette my nigga

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>>117496879
>>117496934
it looks like you've already collected some pretty slamming reference though.

Keep this in mind. The reason you can't find a lot of reference on google is because of image copyrights. Even some things you wouldn't think of anyone caring about, has copyrights. There are so many images you guys aren't seeing on google because of this. Think about how often National Geographic or any similar science resource channel pulls their content off youtube. This is the same deal. If you wanna grab that reference you have to find a library, an image bank and really put in some work to find it or buy it, or torrent it.

I'm lucky enough to live near NYC, so i can go visit the NYPL image bank and get thousands of images you will never find online. You gotta get in there.

Another thing I can recommend you is to shoot your own pictures. Sometimes it just doesn't exist, but if you have a cheap point and shoot, you can make it happen.

Idunno if this helps, but you can see these guys talk about buying reference books.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNI5ojXU9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIUbGJuAxTY

The idea is the same, and the Japanese do it too. Hell even in Bakuman they show too.

>>117496099
thanks for this, very awesome stuff here.

>>117497367
If you want to improve everything at once then just draw things that are correct, in other words real life objects. If you draw correct things enough times then your hands and brain will learn how to draw even if you don't.

So, how long does it take to learn?

>>117497442
I just copy set design from television sitcoms

>>117497125
>>117497316
Elbows line up at the bottom of the rib cage, wrists line up with the bottom of the crotch, fingers end halfway down the upper leg (if they're fully outstretched)
http://www.freetexturesblueprints.com/albums/userpics/10001/normal_female-2.gif

>>117497442
thanks, guess i'll buy some books

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>>117497367
this >>117497446

>learn to draw everything at once
This is actually kind of possible if you just practice perspective and form you do train everything at once. I highly recommend you buy this book.

>>117497489
Some people learn faster than others. But you can get pretty formidable in under a year of serious study.

>>117497490
I would have never thought of that, that's brilliant though. I may do that myself.

>>117497489
People learn at different rates man.
When you start trying to improve some things will click with you and some won't.
I mean if you put forth the effort and actually try, you can see results within months.

Just keep drawing and studying, I believe in you.

>>117497566
Check barnes and noble, I got a stack of image books for like 20 bucks. Consume everything you can. And see if you can pirate anything like those DK books, those are gold.

>>117496633
pretty cool

>>117497489
if you ask me, it mostly depends on whether or not you actually enjoy it

>>117497446
>If you draw correct things enough times then your hands and brain will learn how to draw even if you don't.

This is true, practice observation.

Thank you for pulling through for me today /a/ I just want everyone to be happy.

Please keep posting your art anything and everything, keep it anime related of course, ask questions. Forget the ideas of hugboxes and what not, I'm just here cause I think you guys have a lot to offer. If you're a hardworking individual, getting praise rained, you still work hard.

I'll definitely be posting some stuff, I have trouble drawing anime style, so maybe you guys can help me.

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I'll bite. Something I did for an illustration class. One day I'll not be shit at this. Maybe.

>>117497927
who is the ugly bitch

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Here is a resource with literally tons of books on drawing
I use it quite often
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WBAlWbAY!OHlVpL_6vsusinFzniu4_g

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>>117496633
>watch the series
>this guy appears
Shirou?

Even for the style you are going for, the face is off. It's a difficult angle to be sure, but even then the features are misplaced/too symbolic. Try doing at least some studies of proper anatomy before branching into your own style, it becomes much easier to actually adjust and exaggerate.

The background is nice, even though the branches of the trees are sort of off as well (off center, trees also have leaves/pines that encircle the whole upper branches so its better to just have the background peek through a few select areas rather than what you did)

>>117498577
meant for >>117497927

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I had been in one of the aforementioned /co/ threads a while ago and got some tips on how to draw women. I feel like the faces have lost a sense of femininity though. Any tips on how to fix this? For reference, the left is where I started and right where /co/ led me.

>>117498615
To start, do you know how actual skulls work? Once you've figured this out, look at some female skulls in particular and compare them to male skulls and musculature.

Pay attention to the jaw, chin, and cheekbones in particular. Eyes/nose/lips will just symbolically communicate gender cues. If you want your drawings to actually look feminine learn facial structure.

You will be better served figuring out the specifics on your own.

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>>117498732
Skulls?

>>117498577
Thank you. Yeah, looking back on it the eyes and nose are the only things that look proper in the perspective.

>>117499143
I count one skull.

>>117498615
In addition to what the other anon said, work on your proportionality. Placing the features of the face in the proper position goes a long way to improving your art. make sure the eyes are under that median line as opposed to below it for instance. I recommend finding an anatomy book, the rules aren't that hard to learn, you can pick them up in one or two drawings and after that your work will look way better.

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Probably never going to finish this. Oh well.

>>117499259
Why 'oh well'? Were you planning on selling it? Just move on and draw something better using whatever you learned while drawing this.

>>117497927
it looks like a manga page, that's for sure. Keep in mind form overlaps, especially at that angle. It's part of shape design that you see in cartoons. Straights/Curves/ETC. T overlaps, there should be plenty of info on that.

>>117499259
your goal for next time will be to do it in less lines. Or to use the eraser to clean it up and practice making it look nicer.

Go back to /co/mblr.

>>117499259
Sounds like you're showing off your skill to draw porn

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>>117499359
I draw for fun. Though if I have ever have time I'd love to go back and properly do the lineart and coloring.

>>117499422
When I prepare the lineart for coloring I make sure to use lines sparingly. But yes, I wish my sketches can be cleaner.

>>117499937
That's beyond my skill level since I never learned how to draw proper human anatomy.

And that's all I got on my computer at the moment.

>>117500513
If its on your computer, it might be easier to start with larger lines for your sketch and work your way down to smaller lines as you fill in details and go over the initial lines. That way you can minimize the amount of chicken scratch you use.

>>117500588
MSPaint is a good line art trainer. Or lower the sensitivity of your tablet and bump up your brush size.