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>destroying an overpowered mary sue like Saber with pure sword

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>destroying an overpowered mary sue like Saber with pure sword skill.
Is there a more based servant than Sasaki Kojiro?
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>>117442955
He's not Sasaki Kojiro.
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>>117442955
KATANAH
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>>117443154
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>>117442955
well, medusa actually kills her
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>>117442955
>Saber survives it anyway for no reason
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He's so fucking irrelevant they didn't bother to let you know who killed him in Fate.

>develops a master sword technique
>to kill swallows

Pic related, look at this big bad motherfucker, you'd have to train for decades to kill one of these things if you didn't want to use a slingshot. Based Sasaki Kojiro.
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>>117443108
There's nothing wrong with using that name. He represents the legend of Sakaki Kojiro, the real one didn't even exist.
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there are seriously way to many "undodgebal one hit kill" moves in fate/stay night.

And they never work!
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>>117443406
>what is plate armor?
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>>117442955
NIPPON STEEL FOLDED 1000 TIMES OVER > Shitty Fairy Sword.
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>>117443406
Instinct skill.

At high enough levels you can dodge almost every attack after seeing it once.
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For anyone that has read F/HA here:

How long is it? It doesn't feel like it can be that long from what I've read so far. Besides there aren't routes.
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>>117443348
Alter is shit though.
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>>117443227
I suddenly want a katana. Stop me, /a/.
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>>117443583
>after seeing it once.

Too bad she didn't see it once.

Also, Tsubame Gaeshi is literally unavoidable, it doesn't matter if you "predict" it. It's like Gae Bolg except without fate-warping so even luck won't save you.

In the VN he only used the 2-strike variant which can be dodged if you're good enough, but in the anime he used the three strikes which is unavoidable.
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Iskandar, King of Conquerors is more based.
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>>117443492

Nasuverse Swallows have Instinct EX and Agility A++, motherfucker.
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>>117443685
She didn't dodge it. Her instinct showed her what would happen, so she blocked it.

For some reason Assassin's sword isn't sharp enough to cut her armor. That, or he wasn't serious, and he'll reveal it in their last showdown.
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>>117443685
Ufotable fucked up.
Suprise.
Also Luck being able to protect from Gae Bolg is condensed bullshit
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>>117443685
It's unavoidable but it's not a one hit kill like Gae Bolg. Saber just moved to tank it with her armor.
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>>117443745
>It's unavoidable but it's not a one hit kill like Gae Bolg. Saber just moved to tank it with her armor.
So why didn't she have that brilliant idea in the VN?
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>mfw Tsubame Gaeshi
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>>117443745
It is meant to be a one hit kill, each swing is a lethal attack, blocking it with her armor is bullshit and makes Assassin no where near as big of a threat as before. Ufotable simply fucked up again
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>>117443664
Why? AS long as you aren't autistic like that guy it should be fine.
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>>117443830
>It is meant to be a one hit kill, each swing is a lethal attack
How can a regular sword be a one hit kill against a servant? Archer tanks fucking gate of babylon to shield shirou and doesn't die.
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>>117443903
2nd magic.
Don't ask questions
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>>117443517
A noname farmer wrecking Saber is much more badass than Sasaki Kojiro doing it.
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>>117443903
Healing rapidly takes up a ton of mana, something that is a big deal for Saber at this point in the story.
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>>117443903
The same way that cutting off your head and slicing your body into two is lethal.
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>>117442955
That scene was 10/10 voiceacting.

But saber had to open her mouth... I wonder if it could be fixed with some video cutting.

Interrupting her mid-sentence would be even more delicious.
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>>117443903
Because that's just how badass Fake Assassin is.
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>>117443903
It's a NP-level skill. It's just that fucking good.
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>>117443492
I have question - is this european or asian swallow?
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>>117443987
Second magic makes the sword exist in 3 places at once but it doesn't make it any stronger.
>>117444061
You have to destroy the core to kill a servant and they're extremely tough, specially Saber.

Again, tsubame gaeshi is unavoidable but not a one hit kill because washing pole isn't a noble phantasm but a regular katana.
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>>117444310
Servants still die if you cut off their head
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>>117444310
Nasu says it is a completly fatal technique though.
And if you haven't noticed Nasu breaks his own rules constantly
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>>117444310
You can still kill a servant if you cut off their head or rip out their hearts. Vital points still matter.
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Tsubame Gaeshi was here. Every other ultimate sword techniques are for losers.
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Li Shuwen.
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Havent been keeping up with anime lately, but as far as l remember fate/zero ended a while back, so why the therads?
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>>117442955

It wasn't a fair fight

Assassin had his AIBO backing him up
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>>117443492
He didn't merely want to kill it, he wanted to cut it down, mid flight, with a sword. He even acknowledges it's stupid, but he kept on doing it.
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>>117444501
FZ got a sequel.
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>>117444501
This isn't about fate/zero.
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>>117442955
Li Shuwen fucked up Mooncell servants with a single punch. Li Shuwen > Kojirou.
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>>117444501
This is about the superior work, F/SN. Read the VN.
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>>117444619
>Aibou
>translated as Bro
The fuck, shouldn't it be partner?
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>>117443830
His sword isn't strong enough to get through seiba's armor. If you'll notice, in her premonition, the strikes were all aimed at unarmored parts.
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>>117444569
How come when Assassin isn't an assassin, they get strangely good, even strong?
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>>117444569
Li Shuwen and Kojirou are the best assassins. All other assassins can go home.
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>>117444011
I don't think you understand. He was never a human. He wasn't alive. It's like summoning Harry Potter as a caster.
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>>117444371
>>117444441
He's not going to cut Saber's head because of her bullshit instinct/prediction and he can't cut through her armor with a regular sword.

Tsubame gaeshi can probably one shot some servants but not Saber.
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>>117444671
Semiramis best Caster, best waifu and best girl. Assassin not so much.
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>>117444644
It should. Blame UTW.
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>people trying to defend Ufotable's retarded changes
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>>117444292
It's african, not asian.
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>>117444671
>knife ears
top slut
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>>117444746
Neither was Medusa, yet she was summoned.
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>>117444774
The only retarded change so far has been Saber killing berserker.
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>>117443406
Wait, wasn't the reason because trading blows with saber made Kojiro's sword slightly bent so Saber was able to use that opening to dodge?
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>>117444644
Yeah, it should. But it doesn't make the scene less hilarious.
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>>117444972
That's the second fight, we are talking about the first one
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>>117444972
That happens in the second fight when she kills him through TG.
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>>117443542

There's fucking three and all of them are flawed.
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>>117443517
>the real one didn't even exist
He did and he died to the best.
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>>117442955
Miyamoto Musashi.
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>>117444569

In terms of excellency and utility maybe, but coincidentally Kojirou is a complete counter to Li Shuwen.
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>>117443542
Bazett's Fragarach worked every time i think.
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Too bad he couldn't kill her because the plot demanded it. (^:
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>>117445070
What would Miyamoto Musashi's NP be (or at least fake NP like Koujiro) ?

Most likely something with his two swords
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>>117444746
Nursery Rhyme says hello.
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>>117445097
Complete Ofusacation > Presence Consealment.
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>>117445097
How? Li Shuwen would walk up to Kojirou while invisible and one-shot him.

>>117445189
He'd have an oar as a noble phantasm.
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>>117444746
>>117445205
Different concepts. Fake Assassin isn't Kojiro, but he existed.
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>>117445189

He'd fight with two swords, but his noble phantasm would obviously be taking out a boat oar.
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>>117445244
>>117445262

Mind's Eye (Fake) rank A. Kojirou is perfectly equipped to deal with an invisible opponent, and Shuwen has no means of closing distance or defending from his tremendous sword.
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>>117445189

I bet the story about the oar would grant him a Noble Phantasm of the same sort of nature as Lancelot's Knight of Honor, with a few twists of its own. Something like being able to grasp everyday objects and reclassifying them as a "sword", giving them durability and cutting ability worthy of legendary katana.

Or something like that.
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>>117445189
Musashi was also very famous for throwing swords at people, so according to Nasu, he would be an Archer.
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>>117444644
>>117444988
I think it's even funnier he thinks the gates his goddamn brother somehow
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>>117445321
>Mind's Eye (Fake) rank A
That didn't help Extra Archer.
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>>117445399
In Koha-Ace he's Saber.
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Is Assassin the Jetstream Sam of anime?
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>>117443842
But that guy, surprisingly enough, was using it correctly.
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>>117445484

Rank B doesn't confer any additional benefits against that which cannot be detected. A does.
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>>117442955
>Saber with Shirou as a master
>Overpowered
lul
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>>117445355
That actually makes a lot of sense, but seems too weak
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>>117445538
MEMORIES BROKEN THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN
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>>117445669

It wouldn't be his only Noble Phantasm, it'd probably just supplement some pair of swords he actually utilized that he can't use without a condition being fulfilled. Typical Saber class sort of thing.
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>>117445713
Heh
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>>117445713
>we're in asia you smarmy cunt
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>>117445713
Genius!
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>>117445713
Now she's in character
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>>117445713
MP's Arthur would make a great servant.
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>>117445713
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>>117443842

He's fat, what's autistic about some pretty impressive jug-cutting skills?
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>>117445713
Asian swallows confirmed smarter than a shitty King.
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>>117444753
>he can't cut through her armor with a regular sword

but he does
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>>117445964

Even in the VN he can't. Saber just can't make an opening because he never aims for her armor, every single attack he makes is a lethal strike at her neck.
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>>117445591
Nippon Steel vs Chinease Fists. Who'd win?
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>>117443737
luck means fate defence, explicitly it defends against conceptual weapons
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I've only watched the first Fate anime that came out a bunch of years ago. Should I watch this, or is there something else I should watch first'
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>>117446087
Read the VN.
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>>117445825
Black knight versus berserker, who wins?
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>>117444924
In FSN universe Medusa did exist, though. Sasaki is the only hero in VN which is described as originating from a non existing person.
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>>117446170
Best Berserker can manage is a draw
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>>117446115

I will... someday.
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>>117446208
>In FSN universe Medusa did exist
Nope
>It's been explained that Heroic Spirits are beings that heroes whom belief has been gathered upon become after death, but heroes of myths and legends can be born by the gathering of belief even if they didn't exist. Also, there are those who those who make a contract of some sort with the world when they were alive and as compensation become Heroic Spirits after death. In the Fifth War, Hasan Sabaha was a hero that actually existed, and Herakles and Medusa are ones of legends
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>>117446087
Now fuck off.
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>>117444924
>>117446208

Medusa's legend existed but Sasaki Kojirou's legend was never believed enough to crystallize into reality. He is an illusory figure even in myth.
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>>117446260

God damn it no, I still need to beat the Hisui and Kouhaku routes of Turkeyhandle. Don't make me do this
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>>117446382

They're the best routes of Turkeyhandle.

Go.
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>>117446382
Read those fucking routes anon
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>>117446246

Ok, if that's true, how do you get the actual relics from those Servants used as summoning catalysts?

Are we at the "God (Akashaic Record) also went and put the dinosaur bones in the rocks to lol you" stage?
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>>117445355
>Something like being able to grasp everyday objects and reclassifying them as a "sword"
So what would happen if he comes across something like this?
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>>117446663
Who the fuck knows.
Herakles was summoned using a fragment of his temple and Medusa with some mirror dug up from some other temple
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>>117446663

Don't need to exist for a physical object to be associated with you.
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>>117443685
You're wrong, only in the fate route he uses the 2 strike version for some reason. In ubw he uses the 3 strike version and we get a paragraph about why he developed the technique, as well as the explanation that a flaw in the weapon due to them exchanging blows
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>>117446696
Katanagatari had some pretty liberal definitions of a "sword".
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>>117445544
Is he? It looks like he's just chopping with stiff wrists. I thought you were supposed to draw it along whatever you were cutting.

Also,
>stabbing
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>>117446824
Could be A LOT better, but you can see that he isn't just blindly swinging at the jug. He's at least putting some thought into how he's cutting it.
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>>117446087
read the VN or eat shit
But seeing how you've already watched DEEN's adaption you've already eaten shit
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>>117443517
Most of the others are just like anti-matterial rounds or high explosive missles.
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>>117446811
I really would like to know how a gun could possibly be a sword in anyway shape or form
>inb4 someone posts FF8
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>>117446246
>>117446663
>>117446713
Additionally, Medusa's own recollection of her tale diverges wildly from accepted popular versions of her myth, which would be impossible if she was born entirely from gathering of belief.

If everyone believes you're a turbobitch who deserved to be beheaded by Perseus you're not going to incarnate into a sympathetic waifu figure.
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>>117442955
katana > western sword post
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>>117446972
It's a weapon. All the swords became increasingly abstracted ideas of a weapon. If there was a sword after Shichika, then it would probably be a philosophy or some shit.
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>>117444746

You are wrong, that guy sure isn't Kojiro but someone who actually lived and had skills enough to be summoned as a ''Sasaki Kojiro''.
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>>117446988
>Nasu couldn't stay consistent to save his life
News at 11
Also Perseus did nothing wrong
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Best Sasaki
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>>117444644
If you want the viewers to think they're gay for each other, yes.
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>>117447082
captcha:THE tiesAsia
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>>117443227
Why is always fatfags that obsess over swords.
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>>117447496
Because people don't take fat people seriously so they think that maybe if they own a sword then someone will.
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>>117443517
He got quickscoped by musashi m8

Now I WOULD cum my pantaloons if they made a musashi takehiko style as servants
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>>117445713
Saber would be so much fucking better if that was her personality
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>>117443794
Why are her eyes glowing? Is she horny?
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Which maid is better? Blue-eyes or Yellow?
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>>117445873

The word autistic is an old word, some may call archaic. It was originally a phrase of two words. Au-Tastic.

Au [ohw] comes from the Greek word for pain.
Tastic [tah-stick] from the Greek word for man.

The term was thought to have been originally coined during the Roman invasion of Athens in 138BC to refer to the Roman general Sulla who nearly destroyed the whole of Greece. They called him "The man who brings murder." Autotasticusius. Later it was shortened to Autastic.

Although the meaning of the use of the word had been lost over the years, it was again popularized by Benjamin Franklin in the second draft of the Declaration of Independence in the line most famously quoted "We hereby declare independence from the Empire of Britain and its King of Autists"

Swords are dangerous, so don't be autistic with them.
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>>117447710
The non-psycho
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>>117447802
No such thing in Tsukihime
>>117447710
Yellow
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>>117447710
Blue, but Yellow has a much better route.
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Assassin voice is pure earsex. No homo.
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For the last fucking time

True Assassin>Fake Assassin.
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>>117448080
No, go away zouken.
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Why he is such bullshit? Not even a legendary hero. Just some useless dude who tried to kill a bird his entire life because he literally got nothing else to do. Somehow because of this he is break rules of time and space. This is fucking beyond any other ridiculous staff from Nasu. Imagine if this guy would live now. She would be shitposter on on 4chan who shitpost that much that he can now shitpost 3 post at once and them all will be with trips. What the fuck Nasu? This broke all immersion for me.
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>>117444654
But his sword did cut through her armor twice during the fight, first when she tried to grab his blade, it cut her through her gauntlet, and the that single Tsubame Gaeshi cut that landed penetrated her armor as well, but it promptly regenerated due to it being magical.

So Fake Assassin's blade is sharp enough to cut through Saber armor, but with skillful use she can use it to soften the attacks and avoid critical wounds.
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>Saber
>Overpowered

With Shirou no she isn't. Even without him over powered would be Gil.
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>>117448080
I agree; reading how he reforms his body was creepy as fuck. Also because watching Rider throw him around was amazing.

Then again, Rider is the best servant in general in HF.
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>>117448229
>Rider is the best servant in general in HF.
Rider is a shit in every route.
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>>117445713
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>>117448155
She's protected by incredibly thick plot armor, even with Shirou.
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>>117448020
>>117448080

Assassin is a word rooted in the old-english word for donkey. "As" Thought to date back to the formation of early England, it is also used colloquially to mean bottom.

Ass ass in is thought to have been used by the homosexual community as far back as 360 AD to mean "Ravage my anus you viking barbarian scoundrel!" Of course, much is left open to interpretation as Vikings were not known to be seen in night clubs until the late 1400s.
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