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It's fun how the most popular routes when Fate/star night

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It's fun how the most popular routes when Fate/star night was released were Fate and Unlimited Blade Works, and people actually hated Heaven's Feel because it felt "bitter" compared to the other two.

Now, anime is all about edginess and Heaven's Feel and Fate/Zero are both more popular.

Can someone explain this?
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I realy doubt that Fate was ever more popular than any other route.
There's also roughly a 50% split between UBWfags and HFfags
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They were all good.

Sakura is a cunt though.
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>>117432072
The fanbase grew.

HF got popular after RN was released.
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The original western F/SN fanbase was full of cancerous shounen-loving secondaries, and it wasn't until later that people got into the Nasuverse as a whole and realized from Tsukihime that HF is what his works are supposed to be like.
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>>117432072
People liked Fate because it was the first route and the one that got animated, so secondaries enjoyed it. UBW was a drastic improvement over Fate and, in terms of the themes and tones of Fate/Stay Night, had the most thematically appropriately resolution to the game's plot. After Fate/Zero came out, people realized that, in terms of the themes and tones of Fate/Zero -> Fate/Stay Night, HF had the most thematically appropriate conclusion to the series as a whole.
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>>117432072
UBW >= HF > Fate
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>>117432532

It's odd, but tastes from the fanbase fluctuate all over the world. HF really was debased not just in the west, but in Japan too, for being depressing. Nasu's opinions on Sakura and the route have fluctuated too.

If you got him to honestly state his opinions, you'd find that he'd admit that his views were reflected upon the fanbases reactions. For instance, Sakura has gotten a large amount of support since 2009, and if you look at his reviews of her placings, he starts taking back the silly jokes he makes about her when he sees her getting top 10 with little exposure and small roles from an international poll. Probably baffles him. Even says she is perfect legal wife material in the twitter posts for the UBW anime.

Why do you think Kohaku adopted her Melty Blood persona wholesale? He sees what works and goes with it.

I suspect that we'll see more and more official support for HF after the movie.
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>>117434352
If Luvia becomes more popular due to Fate Kaleid Illya, will she appear in more material?
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>>117435610
Luvia always was 2nd player Rin.
Also the only chance of that would be UBW true clocktower sequel, which will never happen
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>>117435610
Silver Link certainly has a thing for her.
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>>117435823
But Luvia is actually nice, isn't poor, and doesn't have the breast size of a child
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Because Heaven's Feel is a hell of a lot more emotionally investing then Fate or UBW.
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>>117435870
Did you even play the VN?
Also Rin is still several times richer than Shirou.
>A: The Tohsaka family is still relatively wealthy because it receives royalties from magical patents (theories and rituals used at the Clock Tower. Like real-life patents.), and as a result their income is surprisingly high. Even without any additional revenue, annual income is roughly #0,000,000 yen. ...Although, Rin feels a bit ashamed of this since it’s all thanks to the work of previous generations.
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>>117436015
>is "rich"
>still has to work for Luvia

Should've picked something else other than expensive jewels to blowup poorfag
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>>117436058
Blame Kotomine.
He sold 90% of her assets because he believed that it would be better that way
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>>117436058
That's from Kaleid, though. Still, Luvia is stupidly rich in F/HA as well, and has Shirou working for her after one of the endings, if the materials are to be believed.
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>>117436058
Relevant.
They are basicaly the same person

Luviagelita Edelfelt [Person's name]
Daughter of the Edelfelt family, a distinguished lineage in the world of magi.
She is considered to be one of the most promising students currently studying at the Clock Tower.
With her refined manners, elegant speech, and swan-like beauty, she was the very model of a perfect young lady.
That is, until Tohsaka Rin appeared before her.
It's said that like attracts like, but which one attracted the other is a total mystery. All that can be said for certain is that the two of them were far too similar.
And so, the perfect young lady Luvia (who had been successfully hiding her true nature up until then) met her rival. From that point on, every time they saw each other they inevitably ended up quarreling.
By the end of the year, there was an unspoken agreement within the mineralogy department to not even bother going to classes that the two of them were scheduled to attend at the same time.
Luvia specializes in jewel sorcery just like Rin, and is a master-level user of Gandr. Of course, that second one is only natural, given that she's from Finland.
She is a true perfect superhuman, and behind her graceful exterior is a neat freak that hates losing.
Honestly, it would be strange if she didn't clash with Rin.
After all, there's no need for two suns in the same sky.
However, although she might be a bit cranky at having the disguise she wore for so long suddenly ripped away, she seems to be having fun passing the days away with Rin, so it's probably alright.
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best girl
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>>117436191
If they're the same person, why do I find Rin dull and annoying while Luvia is absolutely hilarious?
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>>117436224
Because Luvia isn't afraid to be honest with her feelings for Shirou
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>>117436224
Because you like characters with absolutly no onscreen character development who only realy appear in a spin-off?
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>>117436224
Did you read the VN?
Or for that matter watch anything besides Prisma?
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>>117436321
VN, some of HA. Zero, CP, Kaleid.
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>>117436058
Honestly I interpret PRISMA as her being too ashamed to ask her parents for more money, or her dad just going no you got your yearly allowance no survive.
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Watched Kara no Kyoukai. Literally slept.
Watched part of Fate. Found it meh. Dropped in one of the episodes. Liked Illya.
Watched Kaleid. Loved it. OHOHOHOHO is great.
Is it weird?
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>>117436431
Not really. Kaleid doesn't take itself seriously, which makes it a much more entertaining watch.
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>>117436431
>watched Fate

There's your problem
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>>117432072
people are almost ten years older now
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>>117436431
>Watched part of Fate
Wait do you mean DEEN/Stay Night?
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>>117436474
I see.

>>117436488
>>117436500
Yeah, I think so.
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>>117436431
If you don't want to read the VN watch Zero then catch up with UBW. Worth just for the Ufo eyecandy
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>>117436598
Why would you watch the prequels first? That's dumb as shit.
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>>117436598
I see. Maybe will do that.

About Kara no Kyoukai, was it really just that? Always heard nice things about it, but it was...
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>>117436666
I think it makes perfect sense if you don't wanna slog through the VN.
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>>117436666
Because UBW will end in 6 months, duh.
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Also, there is a sequel for Fate, right? How much does Luvia appear in it?
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>>117432072
This HF love comes from the new kids joining the fanbase which love the edge. I miss old /a/.
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>>117436775
Luvia has two scenes in F/HA. Watch Kaleid if you want more of the ojousama.
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>>117436724
Not when there's a perfectly acceptable adaptation airing right this season.

>>117436753
So the advice is to spoil yourself because a lack of patience?
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>>117435823
luigi from mario bros also got coverage even though he is a second player mario
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>>117434352
>I suspect that we'll see more and more official support for HF after the movie.
This is hilarious why would her fans grow when HF shits on her.
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>>117436820
He could always read the VN
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>>117436820
If you browse /a/ you're already spoiled for the whole franchise.
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I want Luvia to Ohohoho at me while I fuck her.
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>>117436917
The best part of HF hands down was Kotomine calling Sakura out on her woe is me bullshit

Kotomine really was best girl
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>>117436922
Preferably, but order of FZ -> UBW still seems retarded.
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>>117436224
Post more Finnish oujou.
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>>117437022
Why ? It fits chronological and production order, and you won't be all frodo watching UBW
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>>117437081
It's stupid as hell.
Just read the fucking VN
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Why does she have next to no fan art?

Does Japan hate her?
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I think HF and UBW are better than fate. Fate doesnt really feel like an conclusion, shirou didnt change that much and if we ignore that retarded last chapter most likely ends up with Rin anyway. He didnt change too much even though he saw someone else with the same beliefs trying to get rid of everything she achieved.
UBW makes shirou clash much more with his ideals even though he and saber dont get together. Ironically Rin and shirou also have a better romance progression even though Fate was riding much more on romance.
Heavens feel is good but changes up quite a lot. At the one hand it handles the theme from another perspective. But at the other hand it just brushes away all the servants and masters nasu doesnt need for the story and has some random cooking in the middle.
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>>117437081
>and production order
Now you're just being stupid on purpose.
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>>117437154
FZ and UBW are anime anon, there'll be less expostion and sidestories to explain everything that's in the VN
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TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY

TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY

TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY

TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY

TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY
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>>117437288
ohoho
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>>117437109
More fanart of Luvia would be awesome. Maybe Kaleid is not that popular in Japan.
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>>117437288
Now say that in Finnish.
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>>117437024
How about Finnish muscle dyke?
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HF=UBW>FATE
Mind me though that I really enjoy Fate as well. People are bitter about it for reasons that baffle me, all the backstory of Saber was really good and the route already gives you a lot of bits and pieces about Shirou's Hypocrisy. Hell, for an istant he even admits the "I really loved Kiritsugu's smile" part before going to sleep. And I say this as a Sakurafag.
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>>117437331
TOHSAKA RIN TYYDYTTÄÄ VANHOJA MIEHIÄ RAHASTA!

There.
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>>117437333
When did she get so buff?
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>>117437364
Miellyttää? On mieliksi? Viihdyttää?
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>>117437345
it might shed some light on him but it never really sets through. The fact that it is one longass intro route that sets the whole thing up combined with the endless "girls shouldnt fight" is just annoying.
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>>117437288
TOHSAKA FORNISCE FAVORI SESSUALI A VECCHIACCI IN CAMBIO DI DENARO
...gosh, saying it in italian makes it sound so retarded.
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>>117437364
OHOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>117437394
It only makes sense in this context my way.
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>>117437401
>it might shed some light on him but it never really sets through
Oh, this I agree. But Fate is strictly Saber's route and Shirou is more like someone that encounters and learns something with the experience. The ideal is unchanged, but it isn't that UBW really changes it as well, it just gives Shirou a different point of view, making him realize what's wrong. As Nasu himself stated, UBW and Fate are routes on opposite sides of a coin.
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In reality, the Edelfelt family is known for painting old men yanking the beards of dead old men.
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>>117437432
True. Euphenisms don't really work in Finnish.
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>>117432072
Fate's a shit tier plebbo route.

Everybody went GAR in Episode 14, and when mirror moon finally released the translation.
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>>117437448
And Luvia probably speaks Swedish as her first language.
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>>117437445
>But Fate is strictly Saber's route and Shirou is more like someone that encounters and learns something with the experience
well I think that is the problem most people are having with the route. They want shirou to get that stick out of his ass.
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>>117437448
ALBERT EDELFELT PAINTS OLD MEN FOR MONEY
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>Heaven's Feel
>edgy
Best route as long as you don't include Sakura in.
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>>117437514
And my god did he do a good work at that.
Can I have a "What the fuck am I watching?" edit?
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>>117437420
i wanna sug finnish cog :DDDD
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>>117437527
>Heaven's Feel
>not edgy
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>>117437587
I realy wonder how they are gonna handle to "swordification".
We will atleast see something of it during the Archer vs. Shirou fight and if I remember correctly next episode.
Also funny that those swords literaly keep Shirou alive in UBW and Fate while they kill him in HF
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>>117437488
She's probably Fennoswede.
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>>117437527
But Heaven's Feel is Sakura's route
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>>117437625
That's what I was saying. Living in the coast, being a rich bitch and speaking a minority language like it made her superior to the peasants, only worry in her head being ticks that give you Lyme's Disease.
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>>117437620
>Also funny that those swords literaly keep Shirou alive in UBW and Fate while they kill him in HF
if the swords didnt happen he would have been killed harder. They kept kotomine in check and kept him from collapsing earlier. By the time they start destroying his body beyond saving shirou without the virus would have already died
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>>117437288
>>117437488

TOHSAKA RIN TILLFREDSSTÄLLER GAMLA MÄN FÖR PENGAR!
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>>117437620
>Also funny that those swords literaly keep Shirou alive in UBW and Fate while they kill him in HF
He doesn't have Saber to power his plot armor and he doesn't have Archer to teach him how to not kill himself.
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>>117437655
It could have been Ilya's.
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SUOMI MAINITTU!
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>>117436789
Uh huh
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>>117437753
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I am enjoying Fate hollow a lot, but for some reason i want to see Shirou fight someone as he fought Kotomine. Oh well. Still enjoyable.
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>>117437784
Man I realy hope Ufotable won't that fight up.
It's going to be brutal.
They will totaly fuck it up
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>>117437829
I can't imagine how Ufo is going to animate that.
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>>117432495
>realized from Tsukihime that HF is what his works are supposed to be like.
I've read Tsukihime and I still like UBW more than HF. Fate I could give a shit about.
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>>117437688
ÖHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖ
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>>117437870
>>117437829
That's the problem, these fights aren't really complex in action but in how they are descripted. What the characters think and how their actions will reflect in the next turn. There is no way to properly convey it but I have faith in Ufo
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