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>Assassin can briefly use the Second Magic for Tsubame Gaeshi

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>Assassin can briefly use the Second Magic for Tsubame Gaeshi

And he's the weakest Servant? That's bullshit.
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>>117343173
no. yes. no.
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It's just a fragment of the Second Magic with only one limited application.

Which is admittedly still insane, since Assassin achieved it through pure skill, but it's essentially still just three simultaneous slashes. It's no beam sword or self-resurrection or anything.
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>>117343173
The 'weakest Servant' thing is more that he's a specialized Servant.
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>>117344185
specialized at what? doing nothing then dieing like a bitch cause he can't kamehameha like all the other servants?
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>>117346327
Yes.

Best sniper in the world wouldn't be able to kill goku.

Best swordsman in the world doesn't do jack shit if kerry carpet bombs him.
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>>117343173
Actualy Caster is the weakest servant
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>>117347011
would he be a top tier servant even surpassing saber if he was given a magic weapon though? Why didn't caster just find him one since he was working for her?
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>>117347093
Caster is only weak because literally everybody seems to be capable of breaking out of her magic with sheer willpower. The magic rules in fate are kind of dumb.
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>>117343173
I'm GAR for fake assasin.
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>>117347542
Dude, caster is a great magus but it is beyond her ability to create a NP and give the rights of it to another servant
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>>117347683
well aren't NP already on the planet couldn't she use magic to locate one somewhere since they are magical artifacts?
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>>117347583
And she get punched by Tohsaka

Assassin is weak because he's bound to a goddamn door, and doesn't have a master
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>>117347583
Why would anyone ever want to be a magus since raw combat ability seems to be the way to go? Just wear magic shielding armor and train with a sword for 20 years and boom instant saber level. Now all you have to do is find an op weapon on the ground somewhere.
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>>117347908

because life doesn't center around combat. Magi can affect the basic principles ruling reality, like time flow, space limitations, own lifespans nad physical conditions.

and the end goal is having literally all knowledge of things past, present and future. while you will be around, swinging a stick like noone else.
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>>117347683
She's got Item Creation A, so she could create a bitching Mystic Code and give it to him. Assassin's just not suited to fancy shit, he's purely about skill, and purely about skill with that particular weapon.

Also Caster considers making items to be a waste of time and resources, and reinforcing her territory to be more important.

She could have at least made him a stronger sword of equal size/shape, so it wouldn't bend when in a direct clash with Saber's. An A rank Mystic Code by Caster would be equal to about a C rank NP, so that's wholly possible. She was just A. a jobber and B. didn't care about her dog.
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>>117347908
Noone realy wants Caster in the Holy Grail War.
And in "normal" life you don't have mythological heroes running around basing your face in
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>>117348116
All mythological heroes are merely people who trained in combat all their life and found an overpowered magic weapon (this excludes hercules since that nigga was a god child). Anyone can become one if they try. Well the weapon part is harder, but possible.
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>>117348092
All those ruling principles get broken pretty easily in combat though such as the archer vs caster battle where he just breaks out of her time freeze ability like it was nothing and shoots one arrow that rapes her.
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>>117347583
Caster's weak against Servants because Magic Resistance exists, and also can compound with the MAG stat and things like that. Against Servant-level opponents like the DAAs, she kills most of them really really easily. If you want to beat Medea as a DAA, you'll need to get into the special-level ones like Altrouge's bodyguards and whatnot. High Speed Divine Words is monstrous, but Medea just had shitty luck with the kinds of enemies she was up against. Also she was overconfident as shit, one of FSN biggest jobbers behind Gil.
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>>117348353
Magic Resistance + Bonus Magic Resistance from Kanshou and Bakuya + B rank MAG getting surged through the Spiritual Core to simulate the Resistance effect = broken Atlas spell.

It wasn't nothing. She just underestimated Archer and overestimated herself.
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>>117348263
Hercules and Gil. Both gods. The grail really doesn't seem to give a fuck about its own rules when it comes to divinity.
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>>117348263
Cu was a god child, Medea was an Age of Gods magus, Medusa was Medusa, Herc was Herc, Arturia got a dragon roughly the size of the Fuyuki Park sealed inside her body by a half-incubus magus.

It's not easy.
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>>117348537
yet saber was just a girl who pulled a sword out of a rock and was better then all of them.
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>>117348485
Nah, Herc didn't become a god until post-death, so there's Divine Spirit Herc and Heroic Spirit Herc.

Gil's more god than human, but as long as you've got some human in you, you're fine. Also every hero not named "Enkidu" is just a derivative of him, as far as Nasu's concerned.
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>>117348537
>>117348588
actually wait i didnt see you said arturia she actually had a dragon sealed in her?
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>>117348602
>Also every hero not named "Enkidu" is just a derivative of him, as far as Nasu's concerned.
That doesn't make sense at all though.
>Nasu
>Making sense
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>>117347542
He would be a stronger servant with a Noble Phantasm.
He still has shit stats.
And is bound to a gate instead of a real master.
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>>117348588
Good reading comprehension.

>Arturia got a dragon roughly the size of the Fuyuki Park sealed inside her body by a half-incubus magus

The dragon core is what lets her prana brust, which is why she has those stats. See the UBW baseball scene, without Prana Burst she's physically weaker than Shirou and Rin, Prana Burst gives her those stats.

Also Excalibur was made by gods, lent to fairies, and then given to her.
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>>117348537
>Arturia got a dragon roughly the size of the Fuyuki Park sealed inside her body by a half-incubus magus
I must have missed that part in the Arthurian legend.
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The entire thing with Caster, Assasin and Kuzaki was boring as shit filler that ruined half of UBW for me. It's pointless and boring fluff that's ultimately irrelevant in the long run. The route doesn't get good until Gilgamesh finally gets off his lazy ass.
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>>117348653
Pretty much. Nasu loves Gil a lot. I didn't realize how much until CCC, when he clarified on everything.

>>117348645
Merlin put a dragon inside her. That's why she has Magic Resistance A and her stats. Without the dragon's prana burst, she has the stats of a weak normal teenage girl.
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>>117347542
You don't give a nigga like that a sparkly overpowered toy after they trained their entire life with their baby girl Grorious Nippon Banzai Katana.
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>>117348702
Welcome to Nasu.

He laughs in the face of your legends and mythology.
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