Who is OTP, and why is it Tomoyo x Andou?
They're chuunis. Chuunis always make the perfect couple.
Ignore all 'redfag' spammers, it's bait.
Andou is the bad guy for making Hatoko cry. Hatoko's complaints are all valid and it's Andou's fault for not growing up.
Andou tried being opened about it in the past. She was the one who was never really interested. She wouldn't understand, so what's the point in making her understand? That's obviously how Andou sees it.
>Which is also why he seems so oblivious to Hatoko's feelings even though he's super perceptive with the other girls - he's not dense, he's got a specific mental block.
You know, I'd actually really like this because in this episode it seriously felt to me like Andou magically lost whatever emotional intelligence he displayed in the series thus far and became a generic harem protagonist with the way the exchange before Hatoko's blow up went down.
>Saying this when he posted World
Are you serious?
Andou is a huge chuuni, but he's very mature and serious when it counts. He often uses his chuuni to be subtle about it.
For me, this was Ayase all over again. All I could see was Kirino and Kyousuke standing in the rain while Ayase rolls her eyes fearfully and hysterically shouts that she's running away. Good times.
Well, it's probably hardest for Andou to understand Hotoko's problem because she is so close to him. He probably thinks if she had a problem with him, she would have said something way before now, so he doesn't pay her that much attention.
Reminder not to feed it. He's done this before.
>When the club thought it was best to devise a plan to help deal with Mirei's deep delusions, but Andou stepped up cause he knew it was his problem
Andou wasn't even enjoying Mirei's company cause he knew it was a misunderstanding.
TEMPLATE FOR HOMEMADE PASTA OF HATAKO's RANT!
I don’t understand! I don’t understand a single word you said! I don’t understand what’s good about the things you call good! I don’t understand! I can’t understand.
What’s so cool about "[x]”? I don’t like [x]. [Insert something bad about x]
What do you mean by “[y]”? What’s so good about having [y]? [Insert something bad about y]
Between [a] and [b], why is [b] better? Why do you prefer [b]? Isn’t it [b] because it’s wrong?
“[z]”? What’s that? That just makes you a fool!
It’s much cooler when you [opposite of z]! That’s worthy of respect!
[c], [d], [e], and [f], don’t start talking about them just because you did a little research!
If you don’t properly explain it, I can’t understand what you mean! If you’re going to teach me, teach me right! Listening to explanations about [whatever the person is talking about] is not fun!
[g], [h], [i], and [j] all mean nothing to me! I don’t understand what’s cool about them!
All your other terminology is confusing too! [k], [l], [m], [n]…what do you mean by “[Insert something they said]”?
It’s impossible for me to “feel it by their atmosphere”!
[o], [p], [q], don’t act like you understand them because you read a little on the net! I can’t understand them at all if you give half-baked explanations!
Talk to me in your own words!
I’m begging you; speak so I can understand you!
What is “[r]”? What does “[r]” mean?
I don’t understand, I don’t understand, I don’t understand, I don’t understand!
I don’t understand a single word you’ve ever said!
Not him, but no. That sort of response is just overly dismissive and somewhat condescending. If she asks about something pertaining to his interests, he should endeavor to explain it anyway because she's trying to show that she cares about what matters to him. Even if it proves fruitless in the end, the gesture still has significance, and it's this sort of effort that helps keep friendship alive even when there's nothing in common tying you together.
Okay realistically though nothing is too hard to explain unless you're a retard. If a non anime watching friend asks why I'm so involved in something I don't just wave them away. You can almost always sum up something in two sentences or less. Andou is just a huge cunt with zero personality who won't grow into a functioning adult.
They're not real friends. They have nothing in common and no real reason to hang out with each other. She was forcing herself to pretend to have an interest in things he liked, which is worse for both of them than to just come out and say she doesn't give a shit.
That makes sense. Thanks anon, you've helped restore my faith in Andou.
I don't think he ever did that, it looked more like he just shared his likes with her (because that's what friends do) without even trying to making her understand what were all these things about, like someone talking with you about the characters and events of a book you haven't read.
That's basically what she demanded, she wanted him to stop giving her those half-assed explanations, she wants to understand him even if she doesn't give a shit about it.
But that's the thing, you just can't understand a chuuni, that's where the Endless Paradox shit comes in.
Has a webm for this part been made yet?
Has nothing to do with now, is she can't accept him for him then she isn't his friend and must not truly like him. He was always open about it, if he wasn't then she couldn't have rambled off all that chuuni stuff.
I don't even thing 8man himself could have made a better verbal owning than Hatoko here.
He would have been proud.
Or maybe not, you presumptuous fuck. Do you know how many chuunis there are running the anime and manga industry? More than you could possibly imagine.
Go back to /v/.
>If a non anime watching friend asks why I'm so involved in something I don't just wave them away.
This. You only create distance and tension.
He gave her a fucking whole LN.
Meaning, she got the whole premise to talk about it (at least about that one LN, which he probably intended) but pushed it away with a shitty reason like the names are too hard to remember and even said that everyone has his own interests.
What would you do then? She clearly told him with that statement that she accepts his hobbies but has no interest in them.
Sounds like you've never had a friend. But this is /a/ so that's normal. Andou and Hatoko literally have no shared interests. If you have to pretend to like everything about the other person it's a forced relationship and not healthy for either party to continue the farce.
I don’t understand! I don’t understand a single word you said! I don’t understand what’s good about the things you call good! I don’t understand! I can’t understand. What’s so cool about anime? I don’t like anime. It's for pedophiles and fat gross people! What do you mean by good taste? What’s so good about having good taste? Taste is subjective! Between lolis and high school girls, why are lolis better? Why do you prefer lolis? Isn’t it lolis because it’s wrong? Powerlevel? What’s that? That just makes you a fool!
It’s much cooler when you read or play music or socialize! That’s worthy of respect! Japanese education, food, culture, and history, don’t start talking about them just because you did a little research! If you don’t properly explain it, I can’t understand what you mean! If you’re going to teach me, teach me right! Listening to explanations about watching anime is not fun! ZR, eroge, incest, and traps all mean nothing to me! I don’t understand what’s cool about them! All your other terminology is confusing too! Mechas, NTR, romcoms, fujoshit…what do you mean by entry level? It’s impossible for me to “feel it by their atmosphere”! Girls, real-life romance, social life, don’t act like you understand them because you read a little on the net! I can’t understand them at all if you give half-baked explanations! Talk to me in your own words! I’m begging you; speak so I can understand you! What is backlog? What does backlog mean? I don’t understand, I don’t understand, I don’t understand, I don’t understand! I don’t understand a single word you’ve ever said!
Only after trying to get her interested in his interest and she didn't want anything to do with it. She pushed it off first so he didn't keep shoving it in her face. If he keep shoving it in her face he'd be an annoying asshole.
I share your opinion on how to approach that sort of situation, but I think you're being a little harsh on Andou. They've known each other for forever and he's tried to get her into his hobbies and interests before, so it's entirely possible that by now he just figures she's only asking to be polite or to have something to talk about. I can't imagine him being so insensitive otherwise given how on the ball he's been about other people's feelings thus far in the series.
You obviously didn't watched any episode before 7, so shut the fuck up.
I have a huge fascination for animation. Like I got ramble on for days about the shit and different techniques. My friend has zero interest in that, and instead has an obsession with learning to play as many instruments as possible. While we don't particularly care for one another hobbies, we enjoy each other's company, we crack jokes, we have a wider perspective of the other interests, etc... if you think just because you're a weeb your friend has to be one too you have some learning to do.
>But that's the thing, you just can't understand a chuuni
Chuuni is basically being not able to accept who you are, as well as this reality, and, instead, create your own world and identity and acting upon it in real life while trying to look cool with the things you like.
How is that so hard to understand? Beats me.
fixed and changed some things, now I want to sleep
But I don't think she pretends to like everything about him, just his chuuni habits and interests. Have you forgotten about that story of how she got her nickname or even the flashback from this episode about how he came to find her when she'd set off the alarm? As >>117077689 says, there's more to friendship than just sharing interests.
You can be friends with someone without sharing interests, simply because you enjoy each others company. I had best friends who weren't into what I was into, but we still had a lot of fun together. Andou and Hatoko clearly get along and have fun in the club.
tempted to sub twintails synonyms into this. I can see Aika going on such a rant.
It;s not relevant, it doesn't matter if he;ll grow out of it. It has nothing to do with who he is here and now. If she can't accept him due to not understanding him then she's not much of a friend.
That's a shame. I was actually leaning towards disliking her because of some of the purported LN spoilers I read suggesting she's a possessive yandere, but this episode really made her much more human and relatable to me.
All the pomf webm I can find from the other thread:
In other related news. World is winning the Andoubowl in the latest volume.
You see what people fail to realise is that Hatoko = HF Sakura.
HF Sakura went off on a very similar tangent to Shirou on essentially the same topic.
Due to this, this is why Hatoko is not actually a best girl or OTP contender.
I need doujins of these two having chuuni sex.
>Hakoto ends up in tears.
>Tomoyo gets hand holding.
I don't think you need to maintain this delusion any more anon.
Fuck off, LRD.
How can you say no to this?
She was meant to be happy anons, why didn't you protect this smile?
She's so much better with her hair all down than in that weird double braid one over each shoulder hair. Very qt.
But i knew the episode was going to go sour 1 because of the preview and 2. Andou was just taking too much advantage of her.
That said I think Andou just got a bit to comfortable with Hakoto, and Hakoto's jealousy of not being included even though she always rejected Andous hobby, she just wanted to be there with him. (why else would she join the literature club when she barely enjoys going to the bookstore).
I have to say that was a great scene though. Wonderfully written and performed felt very natural.
If Trigger has one thing going for them its their ability to direct actors. Its the biggest constant in their shows so far. An ability to put the right voice to the right character and get everything out of it.
two basic things you need to have to say no to that
NOT explaining your shit when you are asked about it, even if she won't acctualy care about your stuff she will understand you better
BE fucking RetAndou as fuck
feminist fuck off to /v/
anon, it's one thing to intentionally distance yourself from society and solely interact with other anons you believe to be more or less like yourself. It's another to fail to understand that in the end we are all just people, normalfags included and you indisputably share some qualities with people you would otherwise never care to give the time of day. I'm not saying I'd make her my waifu let alone hang out with her. I'm just saying there's now more to her than just airheaded love for "Jun-kun."
In any case, I related to her because I feel that kind of frustration here all the time. That feeling of being incapable of understanding other anons' point of views despite all watching/reading/playing the same shit. It'd be easy to just leave it at they have shit tastes and their opinions don't matter, but if I am to continue believing that it's possible to have friends here, I have to actually try harder than that to understand where they're coming from.
The generic tsundere will win, don't delude yourself. This is a norm for nearly every series that has one tsundere in there.
Thank god some authors still have dignity and common sense, and make the tsundere bitch lose.
Part of it is not wanting to upset the other waifu warriors. Another might be editors.
This is why I prefer a romance with just a single girl in the run and all the stuff they go through to get/stay together, rather than a harem that pretends they all have a chance.
Because him ending up with someone, means they'd have to abandon the group dynamic as the other 3 memebers aren't just going to sit there and watch Andou and X be cosy together with a smile on their face.
Did you not see what happened with Mirei?
Yes, and Andou kept going with all the chuuni stuff even knowing she doesn't understand. Andou's been like "I inherited the powers of the magic lord semen demon but you wouldn't understand a shit about it so I won't tell you". Andou knows she's not interested in that stuff, she's aware she doesn't care about that shit but she cares about him, that's why she wants him to fill her in and be part of his interests.
>Instead of saying "you wouldn't understand", why don't you talk properly to me if you know that I don't understand you?
She also felt like she's losing him (more like losing TO her) and exploded, so there's that too.
How about you take your normalfag rant shove it up your ass.
Isn't about time for your bed, THK?
Dark Souls 2 would be a good target.
Doing one on Half Life 3 would be good too. - Not understanding why people want it so much.
Mass Effect 1 or 2
Read Dead Redeption
The Last of Us
Should also do nicely as well.
Priscilla-tan's magical adventures.
The only girl so far in the show to display chemistry with Andou is Tomoyo. Andou can get along and have some nice interactions with the others, but they lack chemistry. With Andou and Tomoyo, you can see sparks fly when the two act chuuni then move to being chummy and even tsun tsun a bit to each other.
>wanting to put even more shitposting in this site than there already is
I'll never understand you people.
Go make a separate thread you cocksucker.
Please don't, I'd rather not encourage any of them to start shitposting in retaliation here. There's enough crossboarding bullshit going on as it is.
I know Andou realised she doesn't understand him, but why did he have to gave her such a cold shoulder especially when he invited her to make a dinner? In that school scene he was almost saying "Just fuck off already". Couldn't he have handled it in a kinder manner since she's a close friend?
He got extremely complacent. Hatako has consistently showed herself off as someone would take everything and no consequence (aside from maybe comedic ones) would come out of it.
It's because she's such a close friend he thought a few simple words would be enough for her to understand what he meant. Unfortunately for him she's never taken their friendship seriously all this time and he actually knows nothing about her and vice verse.
But DA2 was already horrible. I usually give most games that i bother playing the benefit of the doubt, thinking they will "get better" as they progress, but with DA2 it only got worse. Reused dungeons, flat characters, unappealing storyline, simplistic gameplay and pretty average music compared to their predecessor. Bioware must truly be in the shitter Thank god we have TW3 coming this early 2015
Part of the reason is because the MC started to doubt that Pink was unhappy to be with him for all those years. Red destroyed that illusion he had that was born from self-loathing and depression. The other reason is to snap him out of that state and get him to be the cool and dependable guy he usually is.
I finally got it under 3MB. It's pretty small and unreadable, but ffmpeg is not my art.
>Error: Maximum allowed video duration is 120 seconds.
FUCK YOU MOOT
he probably didn't think it mattered that much. Given how callously he tossed around "You wouldn't understand" he's probably had similar conversations with her hundreds of times. He grew complacent with the norm, not realizing that there was a new issue that was causing all of Hatoko's pent up feelings to boil up to the surface. He doesn't understand that the only reason Hatoko was willing to put up with his chunnispeak as long as she did was because she was in love with him. He also doesn't realize just how jealous she has become of his new relationship with Tomoyo.
Andou's world, which revolves around all that is chuuni, is so far away from Hatoko, that even if he explained everything to her as simple as possible, she wouldn't be capable of understanding. She lacks understanding about the context in which Andou lives.
My question is: Does this change in the later volumes? By becoming a bit of a chuuni, or she remains normal?
Pure speculation and delusion, you could never know what will happen to Arararagi (or Shinobu for that matter) in the future because it will never be written.
All that was stated in the last novel is that crab and vamp remain as a couple and closer than ever, that's the true end.
That's all fanfiction-tier bullshit.
It was never even confirmed Araragi had a longer lifespan.
Senjougahara won that shit in the first novel and they were happy together throughout the entire series.
Is this the face of NTR?
This guy here, I like him. Told that dense MC of what a faggot he is.
>b-but shinobu will win in 100 years
~90% anon, there are some salvageable threads from time to time
Not about Inou Battle though, these ones are fucked.
Fuck that noise anon, you won't kill my idealism. I've discussed chinese cartoons amicably twice in the past few days alone.
Though for one I had to derail a cancerous shitposting thread to do so.
You can all have your fun shitposting or funposting or whatever you want to call it, I won't stop you. But neither will I stop trying to have productive discussions.
>>117079822 is right though, these threads are probably a lost cause if they stay like this.
Hatako really just wants to be closer to Andou and that scene exposed her insecurities not being the girl of choice atm by Andou.
Regardless, what a scene tho. Like that scrazy scene at the end of Shuffle. Deep so hopefully they dont shit it up.......... *they will*
>Hear the speech
>Shouts I DON'T UNDERSTAND
>For some reason all i can think about is Zoolander
How? She's losing her best friend. They were friends for so long and while she grew up, Andou didn't. Sure it's quite common for people to grow apart as they grow up and mature but it doesn't make it any less tragic. She loves him and wants to be with him but she's conflicted because they no longer have anything in common.
Not really, this is not anywhere near as bad as usual. People are actually discussing it, most of the time it's a bunch of people taking tsunhater's bait and the whole thread just shitposting about tsun vs anti tsun.
I was really talking more about that one dedicated antiRedfag and either Bluefags rising to his bait or him responding to himself, leading other anons to waste their time and energy posting bait images or telling other anons not to respond. I also don't really get what you mean by bringing the concept of normalfaggotry into it. I've always worked using the definition of pic related. I don't buy into the idea of normal people being normalfags by default as that just leads to pointless and flawed "us versus them" groupthink.
Hatoko got upset not just because Andou is a chuuni, but because she feels cut off from him and his world, even more so now than before considering that Tomoyo is seemingly able to interact with him on a level she never has. It isn't that she wants him to stop being a chuuni, it's that she wants him to try harder to include her in his life, even if she doesn't get it right away or maybe even ever.
If she'd instead told him to just grow the fuck up, that'd be another story though.
Being a NEET/Weeb and being a chuuni are two different things. I'm not sure why people in this thread think that being a chuuni is acceptable though, that's Narutard faggotry.
>encouraging le ebin raidz
Also, you post this like it isn't said on /a/ all the time. Every board on this site is gay as fuck.
Well there are varying levels of chuuni after all. You aren't bothering anyone if you keep it largely under wraps like Tomoyo. Sperging out in public is hard to justify though, especially if you're in the company of people who don't share your interests, because then you're causing trouble for them simply by association.
No, not really. Does liking anime and shit like manchildren like us here make us the same as them too? No, it's all fucking different depending on circumstances or reasoning.
You're a downright normalfag if there isn't even a bit of chuuni in you. You don't have to display it in exaggerated fashion publicly at all, you know. It's the same as people hiding their powerlevels.
Fuck Time and you will be able to rule time.
Why do I get the feeling that we're going to see each of the other girls act crazy like this for an episode at least, and people will be calling THEM a shit or drama queens and whatnot, but we'll eventually come round with status quo and this show ends with Red and MC kissu?
That's the way of OC, anon. Silent cooperation
Considering he only does it whenever to troll/annoy his clubmates and doesn't even dress to the extent as Tomoyo's brother, his chuuni isn't even that bad. I'd say Yuuta's post DFM chuuni is worse off.
Why is this shit getting exponentially better?
And why does it need real powers at all in it's plot, considering how much it has accomplished through sheer relationship between characters? You have to think why would they use "super powers" as the trope that put them all together in the same club, instead of something more down to earth, even though chuuni is the central theme of the story.
Anyone that reads the novels would care to elaborate the general outline of where the plot is headed? I heard talk about
competition between the literature club being the "good guys" and people like the white haired guy being some kind of villains but I'm not sure exactly how do these matter.
>MC gets fucking told by ponytail faggot
Oh god, this is fucking great.
Maybe people will finally except that Saori Hayami is the best girl now.
Is this worth picking back up?
I dropped this after episode two because I got blindsided with too much drama. But if there's actually going to be character development I might want to see it.
>And why does it need real powers at all in it's plot, considering how much it has accomplished through sheer relationship between characters?
Because next episode will have fightan. Did you watch this week's preview?
I haven't seen the show, but i suppose that being chuuni is just a way of dissociating yourself from the social norm in order to feel special, just like many other social trends. In that sense, you're not really 'special' at all, but believe to be so, and that's what matters in the end, i guess.
>people actually think the ponytail faggot is right
Oh, boy. You guys are in for a surprise. Just because Hatoko doesn't "understand" the MC's chuuni shenanigans it doesn't mean she dislikes it. She only snapped because she thought she was getting replace by someone who could understand him.
>And why does it need real powers at all in it's plot
Because that's the whole fucking point. The powers are supposed to be useless since realistically, there would never be some super evil organization trying to dominate the world.
It basically turns into a battle-harem with MCs group fighting the other chuuni group. The reason is pretty much 'because superpower fights are cool', so the chuunis find excuses to start shit, villain of the week style.
If it doesn't cause any actual damage and normals don't see any of it, I have my doubts about whether they actually have powers.
It'd be best if they leave it ambiguous as to whether or not they're real.
I don't have a "mad.jpg" mad enough for how I'll feel.
I know where the plot is headed, I'm wondering why it has to go that route though. It could be a really good SOL as it is, fighting seems pretty pointless, and might just screw how the things work out in the story. But I'm not basing this on facts, only on experience that fighting in fiction generally turns character development to shit.
Which are the extreme opposite sides of each other. The "somewhere between the middle" by your definition is the same as saying "could downright be anything really". Great deduction man.
Honestly don't see the bitching about "status quo" "status quo" for this kind of series. This isn't like Monster where there's some grand overarching plot from start to finish. The series are pretty much short story arcs.
Because "status quo" is what you get 90% of the fucking time, and there's plenty of people that would actually like to see relationships develop and grow over the course of an entire series rather than maybe some development in the last couple episodes/chapters.
I never like Hatoko but this episode changed me.
Yes, Andou is a nice guy, but Chuuni is seriously cancer killing this universe.
If Andou gonna end up with Tomoyo I wish it's not only because she's Chuuni like him.
Because I've been gradually coming to dislike the MC more and more the more I've seen of him. He's self-centered, obnoxiously so. There's just been little things throughout the series, like leaving Hatoko waiting in front of the school until sundown in episode 5 because he couldn't be arsed to even text her while he played chuuni makebelieve with red, after he asked her to wait for him because he'd "just be a moment".
And he didn't even apologize. If somebody I knew did that I'd kick them for being a fuckwit.
Hatoko's rant is 100% pure, well-deserved justice, not because she's best girl but because he's worst boy. I want to see him reflect on the kind of shit he's been putting the people who care about him through and come out a different person. I want him to make amends, to be sorry.
But instead he just 'feels bad' beats himself up over it for a bit, and next episode we're going to get chuuni battleshounen with a half-assed apology (probably a comically exagerated prostration with hatoko deciding to forgive him without anything changing because she's a fucking dormat) and then next episode we'll be right back to Andou's silly little chuuni antics, oh gosh darn isn't he just a card?
No he's a fucking asshole. He's an oblivious shitbag who steps on the people around him and only cares about himself.
No, chuunibyou is just someone trying to find something unique about themselves. A way to define themselves apart from the social roles they find themselves in. Everyone does this in some way, the ones we call chuuni just do so by pretending to hold the powers they see in anime. Overemphasizing your hobbies as your defining quality is actually pretty normal, some people's hobbies just stand out more.
It's not about feeling special or superior to everyone else, it's about finding yourself. And, by being so blunt in your expression of yourself, you hope that others will more easily recognize who you are and accept you for you instead of the act you put on.
Of course, it's fundamentally flawed because no one is composed only of one hobby. Which is what leads to the paradox of putting one trait so far above the others that it hides them and, through the attempt to understand and be understood, dilutes and confuses that understanding. This cycle of understanding leading to misunderstanding is the Endless Paradox of chuunibyou.
That's what it looks like. "That long speech... was recorded straight through in one take..." or thereabouts. And then whatever "kami ka to" means. Maybe "GODDAMN" works.
Holy shit I can't remember the last time someone got this ass blasted.
>Red's chuuni brother actually seems like an alright guy
>Then rape happens
Come the fuck on.
Oh get off your fucking high horse. It's clear it means they're both right. Do I need to spell out everything to you?
Hatoko wasn't seething in rage at his chuuni antics because it's clear she made the effort to continue being with him, even looking up all his bullshit. She does it because she cares about him. At the same time, Andou never bothered to see how much effort Hatoko was putting into it. Andou never really understood Hatoko and that asshole gave him a much needed reality check.
This is probably bait anyway why am I even responding to someone who can't into anime comprehension.
>Hey, come to my house and cook dinner for me
>oh no, I'm not going to walk home with you or anything, go ahead and get dinner started for me while I go play with my friends
>oh you want to have a conversation with me while you slave in my kitchen making me dinner? buzz off, I'm texting with my friends
>What am I texting them about? Oh just things you wouldn't understand, don't bother me, keep cooking.
Hatoko also gave off signals that she wasn't really interested in the whole chuuni business. She tolerated Andou's chuuni, but plainly indicated that it just wasn't her thing. Andou simply fell into the trap of believing that since she wasn't interested in that stuff she didn't care if he didn't tell her about it.
>he asked her to wait for him because he'd "just be a moment".
Did we watch the same show? He told her to go on without him.
Whatever you say boss.
I just don't get why you think being self-centered is "bad".
While Hatoko rant is justifiable, that's just about the only thing she did the whole season that is, so far.
She waiting for him, pretending to understand what she doesn't and her "I don't feel pain or stress over anything" attitude isn't justifiable at all, and if you grew up with someone like that glued to you of course you'd tend not to worry about others.
If you don't like Andou then start by thinking that he is that way because Hatoko let it be.
But like I said, being self-centered isn't bad, it's basically what everybody is, if you try to center your life towards someone else you just end up with a lot of expectations and no matter who you're dealing with, never fulfilled. Of course there is a point of reason between being self-centered - which everybody is - and being egocentric, which only a few are. Andou however isn't egocentric, he simply doesn't bother with people that don't voice their complaint, or show them at all. Like I said, if you grew up thinking a person is immune to any stress you'd be pretty lax about how you think that person feels, since most likely it isn't something bad. Only if she said it was would you then worry.
>MC is a complete nice guy gary stu who does no wrong
>MC does something wrong to show he is just as human as anyone
/a/ just does not enjoy the whole MC character no matter what.
I can understand and actually to some extent share your opinion of Andou being insensitive, but I think you're taking it a little far and demonizing his character as a whole, as >>117081935 says, he's been a pretty great guy in plenty of other situations. On another note, in that first example from episode 5, he actually told Hatoko to go on ahead without him, she shouted after him that she'd just wait but it's pretty clear he didn't hear.
Also: people generally don't just spontaneously grow into better people or shed their faults out of nowhere. If no one tells Andou that his "you wouldn't understand" comments are dismissive and terrible, he probably won't ever get it. If Hatoko or anyone else had told him he was being a dick and he refused to admit it or change, then I would easily agree with you that he's a selfish shitbag. But until he's been given the chance to redeem himself, I'm not going to just write him off.
Osananajimi ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>People arguing about chunni bullshit.
Despite her entire rant being his chuuni behavior, it had almost nothing to do with his chuuni behavior.
She's just being a jealous bitch and lashing out at him over whatever she could. She's pissed because she thinks he's blowing her off for another girl. If she actually hated his chuuni nonsense so much, she'd have fucked off long ago. This is standard female behavior, yell at you for something entirely unrelated to the reason why they're actually mad. And then stay mad at you for not deciphering their fucked up logic.
This is the exact moment I dropped it. Why couldn't it have been harmless SoL?
No more arguing. Now is art.
>INOU-Battle is a series full of characters with unique personalities. Out of all the characters, Jurai Ando is probably the first character that comes to mind when one thinks of the most difficult role to play. When we were conducting auditions for the role of Jurai, the one criteria we all agreed that needs to be fulfilled was, "the actor must be able to pull off a skit." It may sound like a given, but out of all the valuable aspects that a voice actor possesses, such as the tone of voice or the atmosphere the actor is able to create, we valued the voice actor's proficiency in acting the most for Jurai. Jurai's character demands a variety of personalities from comic relief to a composed, calm character from his actor. Most importantly, the actor must be able to handle the transition between the two phases delicately so that the character will feel natural. The voice actor for Jurai, Mr. Okamoto is a gentleman in person. So it is no exaggeration to say that Mr. Okamoto is the reason why Jurai is such a likeable character.(HIGUCHI)
>Seriously hates it when Andou goes chuuni
Just drop it.