have the PV's sufficiently whet your appetite?
Pretty much this.
Burumas are one thing to make somehow unattractive, but to make Shimakaze somehow non-erotic, that was a grave sin.
I expected Diomedea to fuck this up though to be honest. I'm pretty sure otaku will think like I do.
Well im not watching for the porn.
I'll be happy as long as they include the subs in the anime and give them a decent amount of screentime.
And by subs im talking about Imuya/Goya because they were introduced in august 2013 and have no excuse to leave them out.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not watching it for that either.
But Shimakaze is a damn symbol, so seeing her skirt somehow covering her into decency made me realize once again just how cheap and disappointing Diomedea is.
It won't sell either (I have near 100% prediction rate) but that might have been inteded. They ARE having that studio animating it after all.
Were you really expecting them to turn shimakaze into some kind of slutty semen demon that goes around in a 1cm skirt and a thong?
That kind of change was 100% expected and its not like the anime will flop because they made her skirt longer.
Yes, I expected, hell 90% of any ecchi anime has that level of lewdness or more. But the worst part is how simple, undetailed the girls are, yet again.
I've had enough of that kind of crap.
Burumas look like diapers and such.
And once again, this IS Shimakaze.
>they were introduced in august 2013
So was Iku. And who knows how long in advance Shioi and Hachi's designs were done. But I wouldn't get your hopes up, the most I'm expecting is a cameo appearance. Plenty of girls that were in from the start won't make it either.
Only part of the reason why the show will be shit.
Why would you ever expect that?
Even the damaged sprites in game are pretty tame, its the fans that make the extremely lewd art and doujins and not the devs.
Shimakaze might be incredibly popular but its not like the devs will suddenly change her character and personality because the fans want to see her as some kind of huge slut.
She was always a dumb girl that only cares about going fast and the thong is there because of something about her ship design and its reflected in the anime.
What are the games even about? Girls that are ships fighting ... what exactly? Americans? Is there a loli USS Johnston who sinks destroyers and scares off the Yamato herself?
Or are these WWII ships that go around making bentos and joining the light music club?
It probably wasn't that different.
Could you be a more stereotypical secondary?
Why don't you read a wiki or something?
Careful there anon, the free (of pay) man might get angry at you.
Shipgirls are actually liberates Abyss monsters. This is shown by recent Abyss designs having design elements similar to the shipgirls.
When you sortie you actually capture defeated Abyss monsters, take them back and convert them, that is why you find them after battles.
Ones constructed are built off analysis of captured monsters.
You can't deny that it'll feel lacking without her. She just offers too much potential in interaction with other characters. A Tenryuu Kindergarten episode would be perfect and reflect the game in a way that should satisfy your primary sensibilities.
Yea yea I know he was. It's just hard to find info on Jap salutes of WW2 that isn't the series you posted.
I guess that reason the arm is kept that close is because of how cramped Jap ships were?
>Michishio here. Why did I get assigned to such a fleet?
Ship girls get assigned to your fleet. Special ones are earned from clearing special missions, like events or the hoops you have to jump through to unlock Germans. The people in charge are just a bunch of incompetent gamblers.
'Murica being butthurt forever because there will never be canon american shipgirls. There's a ton of axis stuff to go through. Namely Shinano, the whole of german navy (including capitals Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Tirpitz and Zeppelin) and the Regia Marina (which was pretty huge). Heck... there's even minor axis powers like Finland if they really run out of ideas. Once they have gathered balls to go allied (if they ever do) they'll still probably go for Britbongs first due to the connection between the countries' navies.
Abyss are the allies. It's canon. Look at those gun calibers.
According to the Japs, the Abyss are also IJN.
You have to hand it to them. I can't think off, offhand, a WWII product of any description that airbrushes the opposing force out of existence.
shttiest carrier of the war. Expensive, slow, poorly built, didn't even last 10 days IRL.
barely contributed. Had a few interesting events but failed to make any real contributions
Had one successful raid, but otherwise uninteresting. Was used as a harbor block.
come on, do I even have to explain this one?
are you even trying? It wasn't even completed!
The Italians did nothing but run away. Barely any of their soldiers or ships contributed.
>Almost every one of those calibers correspond to a Japanese caliber
Of course they do. Engineering works that way. It's just that only
the bad guysanglo-american countries used outdated measurement systems back then.
When it comes to torpedo cruisers I'm no expert but as a classification wasn't that a "jap only" class created for their unique way of using torpedo doctrine as part of their very "nikuhaku" kind of fightingstyle. I'll just wave that thing off with the assumption that they ran out of ideas for classifications. Maybe the evil
alliesAbyss capture some units and convert them or something.
There's definitely an allied portion of the Abyss. They didn't really try very hard to hide "Hellcat" fighters or the "Y" fleet at Midway. But the fact that the clearly American ships are nearly all event-only or bosses implies the generic abyss could be from any side, and the Abyss CLTs are clearly nip.
Torpedo cruisers were forbidden by treaty, but the Japanese took treaty obligations lightly.
Later it was discovered that strapping tons of explosives to the deck of a non-expendable, larger unit was a bad idea. See Choukai and Mikuma
>It's just that only the bad guys anglo-american countries used outdated measurement systems back then.
Untrue, Japan did not complete metrication until December 31st, 1958. Until then, measurements were legal in Imperial, Metric or Japan's old system.
> I'll just wave that thing off with the assumption that they ran out of ideas for classifications.
You could handwave the use of the imperial system and say that they were just using the original names of the British Guns the IJN based their cannons off too, but let's not.
Got like 5 Maruyus from this event, please stop.
Thread needs more Amatsukaze and/or Murakumo.
>airbrushes the opposing force out of existence.
It's smart. It lets them recreate history while not excluding entire nations worth of cute girls as potential additions. The abyss are just a stand in for the proper enemy in any given conflict. That way they could represent Americans, or Japanese, or anything in between, and it'd make sense no matter which nation you're commanding to fight them. Meanwhile, the backstory of them being malicious spirits along with some vague voiced lines keeps people guessing as to their true nature. I don't think it'll ever go full grimdark though. It's basically the same setup as the Neuroi, though I appreciate that they put effort into giving the abyssals some character.
would help if i actually got a pic
Well some of those make up for an excellent design, story or personality for the character. It's not the amazing achievements in battle. Even Yamato was a frickin hotel with sinkings whatsoever, but it's one of the more famous vessels of the war. At very least Tirpitz makes for a great cold and lonely character with her being secluded into a Norwegian fjord for years. I'm not sure if it's possible to shoehorn some Norway-related lines but that should be cool. Regia Marina wasn't great though. I'm not sure if they had any heroic ships or ships with good stories since they lost a couple of their battleships in that silly Taranto incident to some outdated biplane britbong torpedo bombers. That doesn't make for a cool story. Scharnhorst and Gneisenau could easily get a ton of cool lines for everything they did.
There is something about Atago
what is it I like so much about her
what is the reason, the why and the how
what makes here such best ship?
Just what is it that makes today's Atagos so different, so appealing?
I will post this in every thread until you love it.
You know what would make for good lines?
the uss enterprise.
or the other Yorktown.
or North Carolina. (god that thing looks so fucking cool)
or San Diego.
or San Francisco.
or New Orleans.
I spose some of those would indeed make for interesting story, but come on, just look at the options here!
I will watch this for my waifu and her glorious thong
My sense is that they're not just going to up and drop any US ships piecemeal.
They're going to save it for some marketing/cross-media initiative when they want to drum up new interest.
US already uses the metric system in the sciences, engineering and the military. There's no reason to force Aunt Tilly to switch over from ounces of raisins to grams of raisins for her oatmeal raisin cookies.
I don't post on /jp/, that place is scary.
She has a body built for sex, it only makes sense to share.
My thoughts exactly
>Shimakaze isn't bad, its the secondary she attracts.
That's precisely why you hardly see any conversation about her in a positive light in regular threads that aren't made by kuso posting secondaries.
Why are you people replying to him? That's what he wants. Keep doing that and everyone will catch on and do that when the anime airs.
It is however an interesting phenomenon that it is Shimakaze who appears as the covergirl for the whole franchise. Her design is highly immodest, lewd and overdesigned. Why have the japanese marketing people chosen her to do the job?
Being a secondary is fine, what's annoying is the retards who don't even know any of the characters declaring that Shimakaze/Tenryuu/Atago is the best and all others are shit.
m8 I've played the game for some time now, just because she is the culmination of best girl doesn't mean you have to hate.
Liking Shimakaze is similar to liking Kaga.
They're both good ships but the fans of these tend to be horrible people and terrible shitposters so saying you like them gets you lumped with these idiots.
I remember starting the game a bit over a year ago just because I'm a total faggot when it comes to the war. I stayed for the voice acting and the addicting collection RNG bullshit (the game itself is mediocre at best, but I loved the threads during events like Guadalcanal). Nowadays I've grown tired of the substance of the franchise(burnout?) and just fap to doujinshi. Maybe the anime will rekindle my fire for this game.
>Shimakaze who appears as the covergirl for the whole franchise
If that were true then she'd be the star of the anime and most other spinoff works, but those belong to other destroyers. But immodesty and lewdness are hardly a problem in this industry and I don't think there's anything about her design that needs to be removed or doesn't contribute to her overall style. If her outfit wasn't so effective then it wouldn't be one of the most iconic parts of the franchise.
More like the mere mention of them sends people into an autistic rage and shitposters caught on quick.
>they don't know the cuteness of shirayutsu's, more particularly samidare.
>they don't know the waifu quality of nagato and mutsu
>they don't know akebono's appeal.
It is just that the secondaries has secondary taste. And it is shit.
>All these shit gook tubs in this series
Who is currently whining at you for being idle?
Sorry, I should of used the right vernacular to show how BTFO the nips got in WWII
Hello 1st and 2nd carrier division. Today is a nice day ehhh.
I love how they tease shimakaze for just a split second but her scene is highlighted to fuck with everyone looking at her, it's like they're literally saying "yeah, we know you want this YES SHE IS HERE OKAY but the series has other stuff like these boring girls please like these other girls"
>high (as fuck) heels
>sailor uniform (this isn't a trope here though)
It's safe to say she's quite a buffet of fetishes compared to other girls in the franchise no matter how you look at it. I might have even let some pass. It's a pretty shameless overdesign. Somehow it works though.
I used my elite DDs in E-1 and E-2 and only had like 3 usable CAs so I'm leveling up other DDs and two CAs before I go finish it up. I could probably already finish E-3 though, tried it out with mostly non-kai fleet and managed to almost kill BB Hime, only had like 30 hp left. Yes, I'm a scrub you don't have to tell me.
oc Sealion found on Pixiv.
Damn, I didn't know she even got Mamiya.
Good day Enterprise, task force 58 here, ready to slay some slanty eyes in the pacific.
Honestly, against any other navy in the world in 1941 the nips would have done well. For all the old McMahonites in the USN, it still had a fairly advanced carrier force in 1941 with up-to-date planes at a time when the RN was using a biplane for a torpedo bomber and the Brewster Buffalo for a fighter, and it had the industrial power to replace their losses. Assuming no lend-lease, the RN would have had a tough fight even if it won against the IJN, and the others (RM, the French Navy, Kriegsmarine) wouldn't have stood a chance.
My secretary and shipfu doesn't have idle line.
Almost done with E-3. Just wish RNG would stop making it difficult to get final kill since I barely have any buckets but that's my fault for having stopped playing after summer event.
Dazzle camo is so hard to do in character design, since its stated purpose is to fuck up the profile and it actually does that.
The IJN were woefully outgunned from the start. During WWII the USN had over 6700 surface vessels with over 1000 of those being active naval combatants.
Honestly, after WWII the US navy could of 1v the rest of the world in terms of tonnage. I guess we really fucking wanted to win.
Not exactly. With the resources the US and RN needed in the Atlantic the IJN and the Allies (all of them) were equals in the Pacific throughout 1942. It didn't become a steamroller until the Two Ocean Navy Act started producing results early 1943.
>During WWII the USN had over 6700 surface vessels with over 1000 of those being active naval combatants.
That's not from the start, that's over the duration of the war on two oceans. The IJN was not horrifically outmatched at the beginning, but they were acutely aware that without a major victory or peace they would be in the long run, but couldn't do anything to change it.
Who's ready for those "Breeding Material" and "anime girl you wanna fuck" threads starring Shimakaze?
I was hoping they would have started already
That was kind of underscored by >>117077869 - less than one in six USN ships were combat ships. The rest were supply, transports, tankers, merchant marine or various auxiliaries.
20 chapters behind.
>Actually wanting to fuck Shimakaze
I have the perfect image for this statement.
Who nuinui here
and who saw the stream of that guy totally failing at E1 in a Shiranui cosplay
Aww shit nigga, Iowa is hungry
Weren't the Iowas in active use up until fucking Iraq Freedom or something. That ought to require numeroous remodels. Those things must have spent years in the docks just for that.
The IJN hoped to maintain a roughly 7:10 ratio, which is hardly "outgunned" when the Japanese had a comparatively slightly better carrier doctrine at the beginning of the war and a comparable amount of planes.
Rather, it was their fear that they would eventually be outgunned that helped them to choose to fight while their chances remained good.
Besides industrial capacity of the US shitting on Japan's, the major advantage USN has on the IJN is its fire-control systems using primitive computations and not-relaying solely on line of sights and optics to range and fire on targets.
IJN is still the second most powerful navy to have ever existed.
It's because Tanaka is a lazy bastard that always keeps true to his word.
Iowa and Wisconsin were decommissioned in the 90s but were not removed from the Naval registry until 2006.
Reminder to appreciate Akitsu Maru.
"At Dawn We Slept"
"Day of Infamy"
"Barrier and the Javelin"
"Eagle Against The Sun"
"The Pacific War"
And various other books about the subject whose titles I can't immediately see from where I'm sitting.
Silly dog of the army, only good for fetishes.
I have a bunch of Pacific and Atlantic war books from the several WW2 military courses I took in college. Granted back then my focus was more on Operation Barbarossa and Germany vs Russia to care much for USN vs IJN.
Give her a little bit of your time and resources, and she gives you everything she has.
Her main problem is that she makes so many of the navy kanmusu look indolent and shiftless by comparison.
How much has the game changed?
I stopped playing last year because it consumed too much of my time and I couldn't keep up with the events but now I have more free time and I want to come back.
>they made her skirt longer
I'm not sure, it seems slightly longer but you can still see the goods pretty easily.
While the daylight was ruled by the carrier and the operative level stuff was dictated by them you have to give the shoutout to jap cruisers and destroyers that were able to stomp allied vessels in nearly every night engagement on the pacific. Everything about jap ships, their doctrine and crews was superior for night fighting. Not that night stuff mattered in the long run because even japs started fumbling once they started to feel attrition on their destroyer force and americans mastered the radar which enabled them to rule the night.
It was even claimed in the japanese navy that brown -eyed people could see better in the dark than the filthy blue-eyed gaijins and thus anything a gaijin could see , a japanese could see better. Americans were said to claim that japs had bad eyesight due to them slanty eyes so I'm not sure who to believe though. Either way the jap lookouts were quite adept at their jobs during night engagements.
Man, I just can't get over that photograph. There are more carriers in that picture than Japan fielded in most of the war-or at least the ones that did damage. Jeesus...
Mutsuki was revealed to be the larval stage of Mutsu. This is hinted at in the second PV. It might just be a plot point in the anime, who knows.
The japs ate shit because they refused to update their tech. Modernized battleships are nice to have in reserve, but fielding such things is simply silly. Japan didn't even make folding carrier wings standard, even the monsterous Shinano could only carry around 50 planes.
(Pic obviously unrelated, just posting it.)
>The japs ate shit because they refused to update their tech.
Or, you know, they couldn't. The US wasn't just throwing Radars around.
>Modernized battleships are nice to have in reserve, but fielding such things is simply silly
The whole "Hotel" moniker comes because nobody seriously considered fielding the Yamato-class and Nagato-class battleships until they had clearly no other choice. The Kongou, which were fast enough, served admirably in the Java sea, Indian Ocean and fairly well at Guadalcanal.
>Japan didn't even make folding carrier wings standard, even the monsterous Shinano could only carry around 50 planes.
This, though, is definitely a poor decision. At that point, though, Japan's issue was less that they had bad planes (they didn't) than that they didn't have good pilots to use them.
CUTE butts are more important.
HUGE butts are most important of all.
She has a nice front side too.
What would you have written? (Just curious, not in the mood to argue.)
Wing folding gear made the planes heavier. It also would have made it harder to put fuel tanks in the wings, which was part of the reason Japanese carrier aircraft had such great range. They were not prepared to give up the range and light weight to carry a few more planes.
>The whole "Hotel" moniker comes because nobody seriously considered fielding the Yamato-class and Nagato-class battleships until they had clearly no other choice. The Kongou, which were fast enough, served admirably in the Java sea, Indian Ocean and fairly well at Guadalcanal.
This is working around on multiple levels. The kongous were functional but their armor was to light; as were their anti-air capabilities. The kongou class's armor was designed to detonate cannon shells before then pierced the armor. It didn't work. The yamato class was just useless. It burned up too much fuel, there wasn't enough space on board for effective management, the guns rocked the boat to the point that the ship had to settle before the other armaments could open up, the anti-air guns were the clunky box fed ones that jammed, damage control was awful, they were slow, and they were overvalued. Oh, and it had abysmal anti-air capabilities. I'm all but certain an iowa class would've beaten it.
Thank god the Japanese won't ever forget their shamefur dispray. I won't see any USN shipgirl in Kancolle and I like it that way.
Johnston chan would bully Yamato and Nagato, would be cute to see a yandere Johnston with a Nagamon.
Just because I like traps as well doesn't mean I'm gay. She looks better with a smaller butt.
>Actual naval discussion in a kancolle thread
I like this
This was based on the Chinese translation, where she says 提督閣下. If you have a raw that says something else feel free to bring it out.
You guys discuss your shit on /k/. Discuss cute shit here.
I find it interesting but prefer it didn't happen. This is /a/ after all, not /k/.
"few more planes"
Zuikaku: 844 feet, 72 aircraft carried.
Yorktown: 824 feet, 90 aircraft
"few extra planes" my ass. and the planes they did carry were obsolete. I'd like to remind you as well that the average U.S. plane was two times the size of a japanese plane.
"wing folding gear made the planes heavier"
uh, no, a pair of hinges does not way a ton. U.S. planes were heavier because they were bigger, faster, more heavily armed and armored. and also not shit. Their weight was in proportion.
>people will forever call you a secondary for liking Shimakaze
Her design is cute and her official lines about being the fastest are a lot cuter than what the fandom has done to her. Also, don't hate on the DDs.
>Just because I like traps as well doesn't mean I'm gay.
But it does.
Traps and futa are homoshit and the homo posters tend to be pretty annoying just like their /u/ counterparts.
I like November's designs on the whole, but her tits are just too small to belong to the Big E.
Removing honorifics is just going to upset the people that want them in.
You cant please both so you have to pick a side to please (or have two tracks but you cant do that with manga/4komas).
I personally have no problem with honorifics and dont really care if they're in or not.
Nope, that's exactly how they salute in IJN. They hold arms very close to their chest because of the very limited space on the deck. IJA always made fun of the Navy salute because "they hold back like a coward".
>Posts Prinz Eugen
>The ship that got rekt on multiple fronts during WWII
I reckon you guys just get depressed from how all of your waifus were destroyed and sunk by navies that were superior.
You're just throwing out flaws without actually addressing my point. Regardless of their anti-air abilities of armor, the Kongou-class performed their job perfectly well into the mid-war.
>The yamato class was just useless.
And that's why the IJN command chose not to deploy them until there was literally no alternative, which was the point I was trying to make.
>I'm all but certain an iowa class would've beaten it.
Which is great, because the USN never got to use Iowa in a surface action either, because this was a war where neither of these battleships were particular important until the planes had landed. Every navy in the world (Hood, Iowa-class, Yamato-class, Surcouf) built flawed or somewhat obsolete surface vessels.
The USN was more advanced in areas, not as advanced in some. The IJN had better carrier-based fighters and bombers with a much longer range, as well as a much better doctrine for using them. The USN had superior radars, much more heavily-armored planes and very quickly adapted to carrier doctrine while their surface vessels were under repair, but they were the ones evidently outmatched in the early war.
Sure, we have a dedicated but desperate shitposter here.
I don't like saying this, because I generally enjoy a KanColle thread, but there have been too many threads recently. Slow and rarer threads tend to be quite comfy.
(In the main, a topic benefits from a cooling off period.)
Well since the Washington treaty(that pretty much dictated the initial power balance at the start of the war) limited size, the nations had to find different means of swinging their dicks around. It was all about honing doctrines, training crews and advancing in technologies. The japs were steps ahead in various things. I would even go as far as saying that the sides were evenly matched if we take "force multipliers" into account and not only the material balance. It is just that as a country america is so vast and capable of producing shit and having own oil reserves and all that jazz.
Even the japs knew that in the long run they would lose. Saying that they were outnumbered especially after what happened at Pearl Harbour (in b4 someone states the obvious by writing "BBs a shit") is a slight exaggeration. It was the japanese political view that americans didn't have it in them to enter a war after all that isolationism and passive support in Europe. Little did they know they had awoken a fearsome besta that would fight for it's freedom.
Yeah, we're approaching general status, with all that entails.
>>Torpedoed multiple times
Yet she survived it until the very end. Lucky ships are the cutest. Post more lucky ships.
Finally, an artist that remembered her patch.
I was thinking the thread was a little close to the last one, and Shimakaze in the OP seems to attract a certain kind of retard.
>You're just throwing out flaws without actually addressing my point.
Uh, no I'm not. My point was the IJN got it's ass beat because it was inferior. you have yet to disprove this.
>Regardless of their anti-air abilities of armor, the Kongou-class performed their job perfectly well into the mid-war.
...no, not so much. hei and kirishima bought it in 1942 because of inadequate armor. kongou lasted till 1944 till she died because of the same reasons. haruna died in 1945 when the U.S. swamped her with bombs.
>Which is great, because the USN never got to use Iowa in a surface action either, because this was a war where neither of these battleships were particular important until the planes had landed. Every navy in the world (Hood, Iowa-class, Yamato-class, Surcouf) built flawed or somewhat obsolete surface vessels.
yea, I know battle ships were obsolete, we all do. The fact of the matter is that the U.S. ships were less obsolete.
>The IJN had better carrier-based fighters and bombers with a much longer range, as well as a much better doctrine for using them
In early war, sure. not so much during 1943 onward. and NOTHING beat the dauntless.
>Yeah, we're approaching general status
We already did before.
The mod came and started deleting/shutting down the threads and people calmed down with slower/rarer threads and now it looks like people want to go fast again.
>now it looks like people want to go fast again.
Is that why speedslut is the OP picture?
The IJN's aa installations were so hilariously inferior that entire months would go by without ships shooting down planes. And yes, that armor made a difference. Here is a DIRECT QUOTE from The Japanese ace Saburo Sakai, a well honored man. here he described the Wildcat's capacity to absorb damage:
I had full confidence in my ability to destroy the Grumman and decided to finish off the enemy fighter with only my 7.7 mm machine guns. I turned the 20 mm cannon switch to the "off" position, and closed in. For some strange reason, even after I had poured about five or six hundred rounds of ammunition directly into the Grumman, the airplane did not fall, but kept on flying. I thought this very odd—it had never happened before—and closed the distance between the two airplanes until I could almost reach out and touch the Grumman. To my surprise, the Grumman's rudder and tail were torn to shreds, looking like an old torn piece of rag. With his plane in such condition, no wonder the pilot was unable to continue fighting! A Zero which had taken that many bullets would have been a ball of fire by now.
—Saburo Sakai, Zero
U.S. aces called the zero "the matchstick" because of it's tendency to burst up in flames.
I hope the Kagerou girls will get a Yukikaze style kai ni.
Prinz Eugen is best tank destroyer.
Actual scientist here (Geology)
>US already uses the metric system in the sciences,
The only time we work in metric is:
1. When we need to publish in an international science journal.
2. When we might be on TV.
Water is measured in acre-feet, land surveys are in square miles, psi and cubic inches are the norm. As far as I'm aware nobody's bothered by it except in passing. Last time I needed to actually convert measurements from metric was about 3 weeks ago we were doing well slug tests
for the city and our sample case was set to cubic centimeters. Took about 4 seconds to ask my phone for the answer making any conversions to metric anytime soon unlikely because why?
Best thing to do is just wait for an ACTUAL kancolle thread and not a "Lets put Kancolle in the OP and discuss naval stuff no one gives a shit about and other unrelated /k/ stuff"
How can Shimakaze be so incredibly sexual?
No, really, explain it to me. Every time I see a picture of her, my left hand just instinctively starts rubbing my dick.
What sort of power is this?
>Uh, no I'm not. My point was the IJN got it's ass beat because it was inferior. you have yet to disprove this.
No, it's not, your original point was that
You haven't proved your point, all you've said were that Japanese battleships were flawed--which is completely pointless, since both sides were aware of this and relied on carrier combat throughout the war. I can't disprove a point you've failed to prove
>...no, not so much. hei and kirishima bought it in 1942
Remind me how many ships have survived essentially 41cm rounds at 5000 meters? And that was after devastating Guadalcanal, and wrecking face in Java and the Indian Ocean.
>The fact of the matter is that the U.S. ships were less obsolete.
Which is irrelevant to the point, because the war was not decided by the obsolete
>In early war, sure. not so much during 1943 onward. and NOTHING beat the dauntless.
Those failures came from a loss of skilled pilots and lack of industrial capacity, not because they (as you argued in >>117079605) "refused to update their tech". The Japanese were constantly testing and updating their planes throughout the war, the problem was that they lacked the industrial capacity to produce them, and they were being piloted by drafted 17-year olds.
Why is Haruna so daijoubu?
Would you steal Bismarck's hat?
She would be on the list of tank aces if she was a tank. Praise the Prinz!
I think he was calling someone else a shitposter and responding with the picture to show you her butt. That's why there is nothing below the post number quote.
That's nice but not anime. Fuck off.
From my work with other sciences (I don't work in a vacuum) it's the same all around. Meteorologists, Chemists, Hydrologists, Physicists. It's all the same. Everyone's working in imperials.
More than half of the posts in this thread aren't anime but /a/ has no moderation unless its about deleting NSFW stuff.
Is this what they were talking when they mentioned the /ak/ audience? Because this is terrible.
Will she get a second Kai upgrade?
>Those failures came from a loss of skilled pilots and lack of industrial capacity, not because they (as you argued in >>117079605) "refused to update their tech". The Japanese were constantly testing and updating their planes throughout the war, the problem was that they lacked the industrial capacity to produce them, and they were being piloted by drafted 17-year olds.
while shit pilots and shit industrial capacity did indeed have influence, you cannot deny that 1944 is anywhere near soon enough to prototype a replacement to the zero.
>No, it's not, your original point was that You haven't proved your point, all you've said were that Japanese battleships were flawed--which is completely pointless, since both sides were aware of this and relied on carrier combat throughout the war. I can't disprove a point you've failed to prove
I dont' actually understand any of this but let me make my overall argument clear to avoid misunderstanding.
the IJN was shit.
It was shit for various reasons. Some reasons, mind you, were not the fault of the IJN. Some mistakes the IJN did make though was producing battleships that didn't really do anything but sink, not making enough aircraft carriers (of all types) failure to standardize and update equipment and misuse of resources. (See operation ten-go)