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>[Ohys-Raws] Grisaia no Kajitsu - 07 (AT-X 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4
Didn't see a thread in the catalog
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>>116994957
I am playing her route right now. Couldn't even fap on the first H-scene.
How the heck did they do something so sexual be so depressing and shit, for the first time on a H-scene muh dick was not diamonds.
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>>116995015
Sex with Sachi is basically taking advantage of a mentally ill person
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Holy fuck talk about rushed
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>>116995081
Exactly, it feels so shit. There isn't the thrill of conquest when you only have to say "let's go in there and have sex", even Illusion games are harder.
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>>116994957
>Didn't see a thread in the catalog
Kill yourself.
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More like le fruit de la piss
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>いい最終回だった
so it was good
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holy fuck
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>>116995319
It looks like she's gliding backwards.
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>>116995346
it's the skirt
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How is this anime so bad? Why was Mitcher's route the only one so far that got more than a single episode? What the hell are they even going to do for the next 5 episodes? There's no way they're gonna cover Angelic Howl fully and Makina's route isn't that long
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>>116995437
do you even math?
2 episodes for Makina confirmed and rest for Amane's
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Makina next week. We're either getting a long Aname end or anime-original nonsense
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http://i.imgur.com/l6lqV2l.gif

too much for a TV show. Wait for the BDs
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>>116995319
When you see the Juice, you release your own.
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>>116995489
>no "Sachi why?"
Shit/10 adaption.
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>>116995559
>no Sachi crying
Fucking blew it twice
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>>116995489
>Wait for the BDs
It'll be the same shit. Fuck the anime.
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Have they adapted the battles between Maguro Man and Karubi Shogun yet?
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>>116995688
Same man > Maguro Man > shit > Karubi Shougun.
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>>116995719
Maguro Man is a CRIMINAL. Why would you be in favour of a murderer?
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>>116995479
>We're either getting a long Aname end or anime-original nonsense
Probably both.
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This is the fastest I've ever seen a route adapted
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>>116995479
In one way it's anime original, but it's canon since the anime adaptation was supposed to lead into the grand route.
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>no Sachi ED song
what is this shit, really
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>>116995370
50% was anime original. But I forgive them because Sachi's bloomers. dayum
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>>116995479
Or going back to finish Yumiko, off to Sachi, finish Makina and then S2 CONFIRMED.
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holy fuck BD Vol 3 is utter shit with Yumiko and Sachi's crippled episodes
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SANIC SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

GOTTA ADAPT FAST
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>>116995559
Jesus fuck, they even butchered that part?
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>>116996641
Somebody should hurry up with the Grisaia version of Sonic X's OP.
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1 million yen for a 1 cour series. And people was waiting for 2 cours. For an eroge anime. heh
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Too big
http://i.imgur.com/l6lqV2l.gif
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>>116997801
sound makes that scene for me
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Obligatory.
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>>116994957
>Didn't see a thread in the catalog
Because it's shit.
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next ep anime officially begins for me
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>>116997801
>Hugging in the middle of the road.
What the fuck, Are you serious.
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>>116998217
Makina a shit.
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>>116998248
She's great in everything except her route
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>>116998227
it's a fucking zebra crossing
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>>116998227
>Blaming the victims

I bet you think short skirts cause rape.
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Did Satcher get her own ED?
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>>116998348
I personally am much less inclined to rape women wearing moderately loose pants.
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>>116998348
They certainly make it easier.
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>>116998275
I find that I hate her less in any route but hers
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>>116995319
she didn't piss herself in the VN.
what the fuck is that.
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>>116998838
Gasoline.
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>>116998838
>Not wanting to make love to best girl in a pool of her own juices.

They've taken so much from us, this is a consolation prize
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>>116995319
How much piss.
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How long til subs?
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>>116999039
3 hours
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IMO the anime adaptation is decent if not compared to the VN
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>>116995319
#wet
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>>116998394
Nope. Instrumental version for you.
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>>117000646
Mitcher gonna be the only girl that got her own ending
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>>117000730
Yumiko got the vocal version of her ED as an insert song, though.
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>>117000730
8bit confirmed for hating Yumiko and Sachi.
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so is sachi's route done this episode or is there more? Didn't watch yet
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>>117000802
'Tis done. Get ready for LIGHT SPEED
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>>117000832
d-did they at least blow up the school?
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>>117000801
not 8bit but Japan. I think they are making the anime following a poll of fav girls from VN readers.
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It was a good episode. Way better paced than Yumiko's
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>>117000854
Nope. All you'll get is Sachi almost Allahu Ackbar'ing everyone followed by #wet.
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>>117000730
Praise Mitcher
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>>117000956
Sachi's story suffers far less from the characters being unable to leave the school for an extended period of time.
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Was there anime only garbage or was it just rushed as fuck like Mitcher but worse?

I can't handle my favorite girl getting treated like shit ;_;
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Why do people always claim they like Sachi's voice so much? I remember when I read about Grisaia a few years ago when Moogy-dono did a review on it, he had a whole paragraph praising Sachi's VA. I wonder why though, she doesn't sound any better than average.

I wanted to trust Moogy-dono's opinion, but I just can't see where he's coming from with that.
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>>117001114
If yumiko's got butchered for one ep, what about makina?
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>>117001238
Makina will be a two-parter at a minimum, seeing as the episode title is "Seed of the World Tree 1"
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>>117001441
Spinzaku taking a quick nap on the floor.
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>>117001441
Sachi's dad turned into Spinzaku
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>>116995319
The rain on Spain fell on her lady jane #wet
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>Yumiko getting a gun and a grenade. HOW
internet

>Sachi being an expert in guns, bombs an everything. HOW
internet

Ok I'll stop asking. It seems internet is the answer for everything in this anime.
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>>116995015
>>116995081
my enjoyment boner insta-died during the sex scenes with sachi. just can't even feel attracted to that. at least makina's funny.
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>>116995015
>>117002055
so i wasn't the only one.
my dick even get boner on the Sachi's H-scene.
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>>116995319
is this lewd?
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>>117002597
dunno but now I'm thirsty
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they loved the reairing of eps 1-5
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>>117003133
Why was there a reairing?
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>>117003477
it's nico nico douga thing
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>>117003566
I don't even
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>>117002232
I couldn't get a boner to any of em, just didn't feel right
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>>117003979
Michiru - too retarded, erection is a crime
Sachi - too obedient, erection would be wrong
Makina - too child-like in appearance, erection would be a sin
Yumiko - too angsty, erection would be chop with a boxcutter
Amane - too slutty, erection would be self-degrading
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>>116995319
This season has been so good to me, thank you anime gods
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>>117004248
>too child-like in appearance
Nothing wrong with that. The reason her sex scenes were weird was because she needed a father figure not a dicking. Not to mention the dialogue was fucking hilarious.
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>>117004248
To be fair, though Mitcher isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, much of her retardation is just an act.
She's actually really okay when she's not pretending to be retarded, and she comes with Liquid, who is very composed.

Not to mention Mitcher's sex scenes were easily the most passionate in Kajitsu.
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>>117004801
>Nothing wrong with that.
If you're a paedophile, that is. I've seen lolis in anime with more curves than her.
Makina does look like a prepubescent child.
If you get off with that, that's cool with me, but I can understand what the other Anon means.

Your second point also does work, though. Romance never worked in that route.
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>>116998912
I guess she's too busy doing chores during the day to take a break
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>>117004987
>If you're a paedophile, that is.
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still no subs?
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>>117005732
720p are out
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>>117001441
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http://a.pomf.se/ncvbft.webm
audio version
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>no music box

i am fucking furious
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Just how much of Sachi's route did they skip over? Did they even animate "Sachi Why?" or any of the other really important scenes?
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>>117006922
>Just how much of Sachi's route did they skip over?
Is her route completly without PTSD, Sachi's flashback and how Yuuji knows about it.

>Did they even animate "Sachi Why?" or any of the other really important scenes?
Yes. Sachi why? isn't here and like >>117006806 said, no Music Box or feels.
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>>117006922
well the school didn't explode
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>>117006806
>>117006922
>no music box
>no "meet me at the usual place"
>not making out outdoors after blowing up the school
>not revealing her status as childhood friend to everyone else, cementing her rightful place as best girl
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>>117006922
Everything.
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they only had 24 minutes and they did well.
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>>117007219
In that case, the last two episode are masterpiece.
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>>117006922
On the bright side we get some dere Yumiko, Yuu-kun playing with Sacchan, and casual clothes Sachi.
sadly all those scenes are pretty short.
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Does Sachi call him Yuu-kun now, at least?
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>>117007093
Jesus Christ they literally took out all the things that made her route so good. What the fuck are they doing?
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>>117001989
The gun and grenade were likely supplied by JB given the whole thing was set up to fake Yumiko's death.
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>>117007373
Oh right, we also got some Yuuji-Sachi hugging action. It was pretty cute
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>>117007104
>>117007110
I swear if they dont deliver on Seed of the World Tree and Angelic Howl after cutting out all of the what made Sachi's route good in order to give them the extra episodes for it im going to fucking lose it.
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>>117007477
More like they took out all the elements that actually make her route.
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>Michirus route was butchered to shit
>It's going to end up being the best one
This anime is fucking worse than I thought it'd be.

And they're going to waste 4 episodes on Angelic Howl. Fantastic, take a third of the already short season for a story that doesn't even involve the vast majority of the main cast.
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Don't worry everybody, in four years time KyoAni will remake it as two-cour series.

And it'll be worse.
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>>117007748
Angelic Howl is considered one of the best things in the vn. The japs fucking love it. So it should be no surprise that they are going to pour their entire budget into Angelic Howl and dump as many episodes as possible into it. Plus it has Kazuki in it which will allow it tie in with the sequels if they intend to do a second season. On the plus side I am looking forward to seeing scenes like this one animated. I wonder how ballsy 8bit is going to be with animating some of the more unpleasant moments in Angelic Howl.
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>>117008105
>The japs fucking love it.
How? How can they love something so drawn out when it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the cast? The others' flashbacks weren't nearly as bad as this.
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>>117008398
The Nips love Kazuki, Mitcher being a close second.
They even got a spin-off VN.
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>>117008516
>The Nips love Kazuki
I never understood this. Is a mary sue brocon that fucking great of a character?
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she is in heat
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>>117008667
The Nips love incest.
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>>117008667
If you haven't noticed by now, the Nips love characters that are perfect at everything (or nearly everything).
They aren't really as interested with realism as Westerners. In fact, the more gimmicks a character has, the better.

Kazuki also being cute and a brocon adds to her appeal.
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Speaking of "anime original" stuff, Ryuuta has actually cooperated with script writer of anime starting with ep 4 (脚本協力). Yumiko's route writer Nachi have also helped with her episode.
Proof here: http://seesaawiki.jp/w/radioi_34/d/%A5%B0%A5%EA%A5%B6%A5%A4%A5%A2%A4%CE%B2%CC%BC%C2
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I keep watching hoping that top to explode in any moment
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I remember when these threads were active as fuck.

Now no one gives a shit. Can't blame them, this show is garbage.
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>>117009166
The show became garbage the second they stopped doing the common route and decided to change the entire story because they didn't like it.
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>>117009166
Just wait. The next upcoming episodes is were 8bit has clearly been saving their budget for. Im expecting things to actually pick up now. I wonder if we will be getting anime original Makina route?
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>>117008872
Don't get your hopes up. We haven't even had pantsu in a while.
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So we're going to see Chiara in the next two epsiodes, considering it's going to be Makina's route. If there's no ass shot or just having Yuuji comment on it I'm going to fucking riot.
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>Makina route next week
Hopefully it'll take like 4 episodes.
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>>117010214
Actually we're just getting two. Amane's getting four because the Nips have shit taste.
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>>117010278
Nips seem to like women who view themselves as slaves for men.
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Will best gril Millie be animated?
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>Yuuji isn't the one who found Sachi in the bath

They already fucked up.
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>>117010339
They want Amane's route for Kazuki.
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>Sachi got the Number One
reroll, bitch
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Best girl was ruined. There's no beach scene, no swing scene, no music box scene, no hospital scene (one frame doesn't count), no school bombing scene, and where the hell are all of the in-town scenes?
This is horrible, and then fucking Makina, the worst character, is getting two episodes.
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A shame they didn't use Sachi's ending song.
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>>117010644
Calm down anon. We all know that the worst character is Yumiko. Besides Makina's route was one of the good parts of the vn and it sheds a lot of light on Yuuji's backstory and who exactly he is. Its a very important route. Of course its getting two episodes.
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>>117010644
>complaining about Makina getting two episode when Amane is getting FUCKING FOUR

Would you rather want an hour of "The Yuuji Identiy" or an hour of "Angelic Howl: In Which Absolutely Nothing Happens"?
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>>117010779
>Angelic Howl: In Which Absolutely Nothing Happens
Angelic Howl was the best part of grizznak.
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How many more Grisaia girls are going to pee themselves in the coming episodes? Place your bets.
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>>117003133
>they loved the reairing of eps 1-5
People watching anime marathons on niconico are usually fans.
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>>117010779
Why does everyone say Angelic Howl is nothing happening? Its got a lot of stuff happening. Its the best part of Grisaia second only to Makina's route. You just have shit taste.
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>>117010879
I would like some scat, personally.
Makina would do the part well, given she looks like a child.
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>>117010907
30,000 fans then it's not bad at all
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>>117010948
Maybe you'll get it from the girl with broken legs in Angelic Howl. Not my thing, but there's your hope.
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>>116999509
Even if you didn't read the VN, having only one episode for each route is way too short.
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>>117010879
There's one who does that in Angelic Howl.
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>>117008677
If only Arararararagi wasn't such a worthless faggot bitch, we could have had entire books about Yumi in heat.
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>>117011003
Well if 8bit adapts it perfectly yes she shits herself and lays in it for a few days before Kazuki notices it. Its a pretty unpleasant scene.
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At least we got this, even if it was more powerful in her route due to what it represents.
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>>117010879
Well considering broken leg girl from Angelic Howl pees herself and shits herself because she cant move and is too embarrassed to ask theres at least going to be one more girl doing that. If 8bit decides to animate that anyways. Which im not so sure they will. Im expecting Angelic Howl to be pretty toned down. They havent shown the ability to go really edgy or fucked up yet. I guess next episode will really show if they are willing to go that far.
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Gentlemen, how do you think Angelic Howl will turn out given probably only one episode?
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>>117011425
Its getting 4 episodes so how do you think?
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>>116998838

seems like this season for anime in general is when all the piss fetishist come out and direct anime.
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>>117004881

>not Yumiko's

Jesus Christ anon...
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Where are you people getting this Angelic Howl episode count?
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>>117011425
Two and a half episodes of it, because nothing else happens in Amane's route beyond the sex.
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>>117008105

Angelic Howl was boring for the most part.

The only good parts were the beginning and the climax. Everything else was nonsensical. I don't see how anyone besides waifufags can even say it was one of the best parts of the VN.

But everyone knows the Common Route is the best part of Grisaia.
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>>117011765
Yumiko's 2nd and 3rd scenes were definitely the most erotic, but not as Sachi's (post rule-dropping), or Michiru's.
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>>117011926
>but not as Sachi's (post rule-dropping), or Michiru's.
I meant to say "but not as passionate".
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>>117011885
Amane nor Kazuki are my waifu though and I still think it was one of the better parts of the VN. It had extremely solid writing and the slow pace allowed you to really get attached to the all of the girls and showed you the hell they were all going through. I love that they took their time with that backstory. It really helped make it have more impact.
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>>117011788

Because Makina Route=episode 8-9

so that means Amane will get at least episodes 10-12 but will most likely be episodes 10-13 with a teaser of the sequel near the end of 13.
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>>117011885
Common route is the best 'non-serious' part of the VN.
Angelic Howl is the best 'serious' part.

Get off your high horse.
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>>117010941
I didn't like Makina's route much.
It was cool to see all that Yuuji backstory - though him talking endlessly about Asako became vexing at some point.

The idea of action was cool, but the people from Ichigaya looked absolutely incompetent it wasn't even funny. It was pretty much Yuuji getting away with everything almost flawlessly. Hell, even Makina made them look bad. That alone speaks volumes.

Add to that the bad mix with action and comedy, and the fact that romance had no place in this route and that it's insertion felt forced.

I really didn't enjoy it much.

I did think it was better than Yumiko's.
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>>117011885
you just have to be patient and immerse yourself. if you don't do that, of course it's going to be boring; that's true of anything
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>>117012313
>Common route is the best 'non-serious' part of the VN.

nah, it was the best overall part.
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>>117012349
If they cut out the romance in Makina's route, it'll automatically get my vote for best adaptation.
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>>117012581
Nah. Elaborate further if you want to be taken seriously.
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So what's the meaning behind "Seed of the World Tree"?
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Anyone made webm of Yumiko hitting dere switch hard?
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>>117013052
It's a reference to my penis.
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>>117013052
I guess it's a reference to the apple seed Sachi gives to Makina
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>>117013052
Makina is the daughter to one of the biggest families in the world. Her family so large that if they were to go under it severely affect the entire world stock exchange and cause another depression. Makina's family has their roots in pretty much everything. So therefore she is the seed of the world tree.
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>>117013387
>>117013457
Huh. I guess that makes sense. The overarching fruit motif is apples, after all.

>The apple in Kajitsu's logo is blue because it's a bad apple
>Everyone at Mihama is considered a "bad apple" by society
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>>116998348
Exactly, that's why "look both ways before crossing" is acceptable, while rape-victim-blaming isn't. Crossing a street is subject to many different random occurences and requires vigilance, while rape is entirely purposeful and malevolent. Sachi route a trainwreck (figuratively).
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>>117001204
Moogy is shit.
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So whos wanting to take bets on how much they censor Angelic Howl? Im betting they dont even show any of the more fucked up bits.
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>>117014682
Anime only stuff.
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>>117014741
Nah they wont. Angelic Howl is entirely backstory and so far they havent changed the backstories that much.
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>>117008824
So the anime is the grand route after all, then.
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>>116995319
>wetting
Confirmed second best girl.
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>>117004987
>pedophile
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Lolis do not look like children, they look like small teenagers, why don't people understand this?
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As someone who hasn't played Sachi's route: How badly was it butchered?
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>>117015506
A LOT. AND I MEAN A WHOLE FUCKING LOT.
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>>117015506
I'd say it was even worse off than Yumiko's.
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>>117015506

basically 99% of thr route was cut and/or butchered compared to the vn
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>>117015506
It's worse than what everyone expected, and that's a fucking lot.
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>>117015506
Is there a Cliffsnotes of Cliffsnotes? Because that's what this felt like.
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>>117015506
skips straight to the climax with no background or reasoning behind her actions. i mean, yeah, probably as good as they could have done in one episode, but still laughably bad
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Holy shit this episode was so fucking dumb. I had high hopes for this series but it gets worse and worse every episode
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>>116995319
Why is anime piss so clear?
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>>116995319
She wants to fuck
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>>117016068
She must keep herself well-hydrated, pee is usually only bright yellow when you don't drink enough water.
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Good thing I stopped watching Grisaia at ep 2, it got me into the VN, that's all it's good for
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Comedy of the season.
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>>117016299
>Parents run into the street
>Not the kid
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>>117015506
A lot. I'll try and summarize it as good as I can

>Yuuji only remembered the playground after telling Sachi to meet at "the usual place" when they studied together for the test, not when she called him "Yuu-kun"
>Sachi's PTSD was actually shown and elaborated on more, she has nightmares in the VN, her mother also asks "Sachi...why?" after being hit by the truck
>The shirt tug took place on the second date they had, where they went to the beach, it's also before she became a "rule breaker"
>Sachi announces to everyone that she is Yuuji's childhood friend
>Yuuji was the one who made the bombs, Sachi tried to burn the school down even though it's brick and mortar because that was the only way she knew
>The music box had more of a role in the ending, instead of just being relegated to a prop on the table
>Going off of that, Yuuji learned of Sachi's uncle when she mentions that she writes letters to him. Yuuji gets the key through the mail and talks to the uncle over the phone
>Sachi and Yuuji had a shoe-kicking contest when they were kids, and they did it again at the end of her route
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>>117016299
They love those sunset scenes, don't they.
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>>117016363
Why is the road so close to the street? That's pretty dangerous.
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>>117015506
>>117016363
and she did actually blow up the school with said bombs, none of this pussy fireworks shit
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>>117016458
Looks like a pretty normal sidewalk to me.
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>>117003566
why
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>>117016363
>Sachi and Yuuji had a shoe-kicking contest when they were kids, and they did it again at the end of her route
You forgot to mention it was for the right to marry her
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>>117016363
>Sachi and Yuuji had a shoe-kicking contest when they were kids, and they did it again at the end of her route
They referenced it when Yuuji went to the playground, so I'm a little happy about that.
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>>117016506
There is usually grass, telephone poles, something between the road and the sidewalk.
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>>117016363
>Sachi's PTSD was actually shown and elaborated on more, she has nightmares in the VN, her mother also asks "Sachi...why?" after being hit by the truck
This happens in the VN as well.
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>>117016547
Aren't most sidewalks right next to the road without anything in between?
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>>117016394
Well thats accurate to the actual route though as it was sunset when they found her.

>>117016360
the parents ran into the street to grab her because they were scared and worried about her because she had ran off and been gone for so long.
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Why is it always trucks? Regular cars kill people way more than trucks.
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>>117016619
Not here, there is always grass on both sides of the sidewalk.
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>>116995319
Did they actually make her piss herself? That was not in the vn route at all. Does the guy directing this have a massive piss fetish?
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>>117016624
It's just funny because it's usually the kid who forgets to look before crossing
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>>117016514
Yeah, pretty big detail to miss.
>>117016537
It still didn't happen for real though, not even a flashback.
>>117016558
>This happens in the VN as well
That's what I wrote, yes. They don't elaborate on her PTSD at all beyond the flashback, they don't mention or show her mother asking "Sachi...why?"
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>>117016634
a car probably couldn't have gotten both at once though
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>>117016634
Bigger is better.
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>>117016741
I misunderstood your post, I haven't seen the episode yet, but it seems like it will be shit.
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>>117001441
Did it describe her father being that fucked up in the vn? I dont remember them being that horrifically mangled. I just remember Sachi's mother trying to crawl over towards her and saying "Sachi Why" and passing out.
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>>117016837
What the fuck is she doing just standing there? I saw that same scene in the anime and at least she looked legitimately distracted when she was picking some object up off the ground.

Or did the text give all the context?
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>>117016634
>>117016837
you know it doesn't matter if it's a truck, a bus or a car. It's a metaphor for DESTINY.
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>>117016176
>MPW I neglect hydrating on a 24 hour plane ride and take a piss
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Now with subtitles episode is even good.
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>>117016624
best birthday surprise ever
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>>117016176
My pee is always golden when I wake up and piss.
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if this was 2009 Sachi's father would be a meme now
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what is tha tthing about counting until 1000 in the bath? what is that suppose to be helpful for?
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>>117017261
The kids-counting-to-100 thing is to keep them in the bath for a period of time, I guess. Not sure what the point is, why would you want to leave a nice warm bath?
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>>117017261
"women can't even count to 100 in bath nowadays"
blame the TV
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>>117016837
Really, how often do accidents involving supersonic buses and trucks occur there? It must be the biggest in-joke in world.
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>>117017359
Followed by the Wilhelm Scream.
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>>117017359
All the lethal bus and truck incidents I know involve either cars or motorcycles or mopeds as victims. They basically never hit pedestrians.
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I can't hold all those harem signals
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>>117017337
I suppose because they usually make their baths hot-tub tier hot, and it certainly is bad for you to stay in for too long if it's that hot.
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>>117017484
Well they are all adapting the harem route, but touching on each of the girls routes, which making some anime only stuff.
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>>117016944
It's only described as "massive blunt-force trauma" and her mom was described as twitching. Also they say the truck was idling and the CG shows it but the show has it all fucked to shit.
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>>117017261
I understand if all Japanese baths took up the entire room, but who'd want to stay in a tiny ass tub that barely fits your entire body when you sit down, and makes a huge mess if you fill it up too much?
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>>117017461
>Be driving truck
>Oh shit, I feel like some manslaughter right now
>Sound dampening field engage
>Oh shit, it's not working today
>Floor gas pedal, apply face to horn and hope for points
M-M-MULTI KILL
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>>117017599
I liked this episode because Sachi realizes everyone is after the Juice.
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>>117017337
>>117017354
I still don't understand, maybe that's what you need to sweat the dirt of your skin or something?
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>>117017826
don't try to understand Japanese culture, it's pointless
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>>117017826
No, in Japan you clean yourself off using a shower-type setup before getting in the bath.
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>>117017826
it's just a way of speaking. Someone that count to 100 in bath is a person that has patience and thinks calmly before actuating.
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>>117017826
What are you talking about, haven't you ever been told as a kid "count to 10 in the bath" because kids are hyper and want out, and to make sure they are clean their parents make them count.
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>>117017922
At least they get to use the whole room to clean themselves while the tub is untouched. My only choice is to shower because bathing means sitting in the same tub I just showered in.
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Christ. They already used traffic accident with the cat. This is just fucking lazy writing.
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You know for what it was I dont think it was that bad of an adaptation. Yeah they cut pretty much everything out but it still managed to feel well done. Hell it even gave me some of the same feelings her route in the vn did. Plus this is the grand route so it shouldnt be expected to be completely the same. For a one episode route it wasnt half bad. Better then Yumiko's. Ill give it a decent pass.
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>>117017922
well, I was thinking about how they say hot water open skin pores or something.

>>117017998
this actually makes sense
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>>117018111
1/10 You got me to respond.
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I only watch this shit because of Michiru, the writing in this is just terrible, another car accident really? blowing up the school?
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Well, cant say I saw them giving her dead eyes. I dont recall her ever getting them in the vn other then when her parents got fucked up. Was not prepared for this at all.
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>>117018308
>Them Dead Eyes
Based 8bit has delivered.
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>>117016674
where do you live?
where do you live?
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"BTW your uncle gave me this key"
say what
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>>117015506
this whole motherfucking adaptation
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>>117018487
It's not explained in the anime? He was given a key for when Sachi got over her PTSD to go to her parents present to her.
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>>117018509
there is nothing wrong with the adaption. In fact it's being a success so far becasue people got interested in the original VN.
You just cant' adapt +50 hours in 13 episodes.
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At least they delivered with this scene.
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>>117018545
Let's see. She complains she was alone and then an uncle just came from the blue
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>>117018487
>>117018650
It was done better in the VN (obviously). Sachi sends her uncle a letter once Yuuji starts helping her out, and she talks about how good a person Yuuji is so his uncle sends him a package (the key) and talks to him over the phone. Her uncle lives out in the sticks, not in the city.
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>>117018580
>there is nothing wrong with the adaption.

Except there is anime only shit, like Yumikos route, they are making up shit because they didn't like the route in the VN.

Fucking secondaries.
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>>117018610
The samesan shirt was pretty cool.
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>>117018702
>because they didn't like the route in the VN.

Well, it's so it fits with Meikyuu and Rakuen's Mega Route better, but yes it's still a garbage adaptation. Everyone's better off reading the VN.
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>>117018759
I liked the shirt too, thought it was cute.
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Kazuki best girl

Also any date given for rest of the VN's eng translations?
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>>117018580
1 episode of best girl and 4 four of housewife. This is criminally wrong.
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>>117018932
>7% 07%
>>7%
>7% 7.0%
>>7%
>7% 7%
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>>117018975
>Amane perfectly summarises Sachi.png
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>>117018932
http://prefundia.com/projects/view/lets-bring-the-grisaia-trilogy-to-the-west/2814/
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>>117008815
That's just shit taste being more prevalent in popcorn literature. Westerners, particularly women, also love a good dose of perfection and wish fulfillment through a bland character.
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>>117018932
The Kickstarter for the official translation is/was supposed to come out some time this month.
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>>117018702
>>117018791
yes, because I cant' wait to waste +50 hours left-clicking through a shitty VN with stupid plot holes.
You know what? I prefer keep watching.
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>>117019051
I think you mean

>Amane summarizing herself.png
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>>117019079
>stupid plot holes.

Less plotholes than this garbage.
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>>117019051
Bitch I'll cut you
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>>117019115
>>117019214
Sachi has no personality, she's just a robot that follows orders. Amane and Makina are good company, and at least that cunt Michiru is entertaining.
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>>117019158
it doesn't matter as first VN is not even canon
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>>117019283
The first VN is canon, the rest aren't.
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>>117019307
first Vn is just a WHAT IF X girl gets the juice
Second and third VNs are the real deal
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>>117019377
Second and third are just made to get people to buy the games based on some harem end.
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>>116995319
this adaptation is really fulfilling my fetish of seeing all the girls piss themselves

come on amane
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>>117019377
so he realy did fuck his own mother
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>>117019258
>wanting a big fat slut
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>>117019485
What? I don't remember seeing any other girl piss themself in the anime, unless my memory's shit. I do remember Amane and Makina pissing themselves during H-Scenes though.
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>>117019543
Michiru in the box
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>>117019543
It's anime only, yet again.
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>>117018702
>Changed Yumiko's route
>Has the some of the same writers from the vn helping them
>Mad because they didnt animate the worst route in the vn and changed it instead
I dont understand you people.
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>>117019521
She's only a slut for the Juice. Also >not liking delicious health
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>>117019573
I don't remember that. Might need to watch it again.
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>>117019589
They changed it to something worse, that's the problem.
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>>117019485
Dude you will be seeing a lot more then just Amane pissing herself in Angelic Howl. Im expecting piss central. Especially if the previous episodes are any indication.
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>>117019656
>Worse then shittier boring version of Makina's route
>Not enjoying Allah Ahkbar Yumiko
>Not glad they didnt spend 5 years on her backstory trying to make you feel bad for her daddy issues
Confirmed for shit taste.
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>>117001441
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>>117019822
10/10
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>>117019822
Nice.
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>>117019809
>shittier boring version of Makina's route
>boring
>he didnt like the Car chase scene
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>>117019822
Not bad.
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>>117019822
>not a gif of him spinning

6/10
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>>117019822
holy shit
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>>117019992
Literally one of the only semi amusing scenes in the entire route. Hell her route didnt even have a bad end. Just a slightly shittier end.
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>>117019591
stay delusional, my friend
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>>117020392
Who cares as long as she's not fucking other guys?
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>>117016363
They also cut out the part where Yuuji gives Sachi the choice to kill herself, or her mom, who was shown in the hospital (and left out the part that she was in a coma).
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>>117020392
well her backstory explains why she is so atached to food
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>>117021008
> (and left out the part that she was in a coma).
The anime clearly stated that her father died but her mother was in a coma.
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>>117018308
Someone didn't pay attention.
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>>117021008
Aka the stupidest part in the entire VN
>you have to kill to be free
>I have to kill mom
>I can't do it
>j/k you didn't actually have to kill, good thing you didn't go through with it boy would that have been awkward
It's like the writer tried his hardest to force some shitty good/ban end choice SOMEWHERE
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>>117021204
>>117021008
Rather, they added in a line about her mother showing signs of improvement. What's up with that?
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>>117021304
Who went and thought that killing Makinas mom would be the good end?
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>>117021323
I am just glad that we go a part we she goes "Chiiiii". Literally the best thing about her
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dayum
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>>117020214
>Semi Amusing

But that's Sachi's route?
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>>117021323
> Sachi's mother wakes up months later
> Meanwhile, Sachi has fucked off to a tropical island with the rest of the gang
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>>117021304
It was pretty risky considering she burned down one school and blew up another, murder was definitely a possibility
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You know what I hate about this adaption, if it was given 24 episodes, it would have come out pretty fucking good. The voice acting is there, the humor, the art, the music, it's all there. Now just have a good 3-4 episodes on each girls route, plenty of common route shenanigans and it would be great.

Instead we get an absolute butchering of the the routes.
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>>117021399
>Chiiiii
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>>117021585
Forget it. You can't adapt +50 hours in 480 minutes either.
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>>117021585
yes. Becasuse Little Busters was SO GOOD in 24+13+6 episodes, right?

When will people learn that there are stories that are simply not made for TV?
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>>117021851
there is no LB anime
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>>117021585
No, the only way to not butcher the VN is to stay away from the routes altogether

You ain't gonna get 10 hour routes into 3-4 20 minute episodes without butchering it

What they should've done is 12 episodes of common route with some light references to the individual routes, since this is pretty much an advertisement for the VN anyways
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>>117021427
just imagining how the class smells makes me hard
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>>117021851
To be fair LB was adapted by J.C Staff who are known for their inability to adapt things right. Plus it had a shit director as well. Blame that on simply bad choices for who to make it. Grisaia has a great director and a iffy studio but have been doing well enough for the episodes they are given. This could be much worse then what it is. Compared to LB this is a pretty damn good adaptation.
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I'm actually liking this anime
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Jesus Christ, Japanese people CANNOT drive
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>>117022681
Has it taken you this long to figure this out?
>>
No, but it just seems to be getting worse and worse each year.
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>>117022681
The test for the licence to drive bigger trucks is incredibly easy in Japan.
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>people still think angelic howl was anything except a way to show off Kuzuki

And a terrible one at that. It would be a lot more bearable if it wasn't a foregone conclusion, but you know exactly what will happen from the start. Combining this with it's grinding length it's fucking unbearable.

I mean, I get that they were really trying to immerse you in the bleakness of it all. I really do. But it just wasn't a good decision, they could have cut out well over a half of it and still have all the Kuzuki and drama it needed to for plot purposes. This kind of shit is what happens when directors fall in love with thier shit and can't keep it under 4 hours. It just isn't good.
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>>117022886
We already got Angelic Howl animated in the anime anyway.
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This show is kind of stupid, guys.
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>>117021851
Grisaia Anime makes LB anime look good
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>>117023199
>This is all we're going to get from Angelic howl

Feels bad.
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>>117023199
damn 8 bit is really fast with their adaption
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>>117022886
>Having this shit of taste
The extra time put into Angelic Howl was wonderful. It really helped you to get attached to all of the the characters and helped to really immerse you into all that was happening. I enjoyed every moment of it. I dont see why there are so many impatient faggots on here who cant enjoy a very well written route just because its too long.
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>>117022871
>Question 1: Can you see over the steering wheel while your feet reach the floor?
>Question 2: If you answered No to question 1, would you like a booster seat and blocks for the pedals?
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>>117023467
Hey now, some adults require assistive technology to drive.
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>>117023542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9cPQTNCVFo
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>>117023295
No, not even a little. Grisaia is at least trying to keep things close to the source. Its just become cool to hate on it because hurr durr they arent adaption every little inch of the route to a perfect fucking tee. For only being given 2 episodes for Michiru and one for both Yumiko and Sachi's routes they have done a pretty okay job. The second episode of Michiru's route was not bad at all. It was actually pretty well done. Sachi's wasnt bad in even the slightest either. Hell for being one episode they managed to adapt it pretty well. The Yumiko anime original route was needed and was actually better then the beyond trash route she had in the vn. Its like you people are bitching for the sake of bitching. LB had over 50 episodes to adapt the vn and they literally failed at every route. Beyond failed at some points.
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>>117023199
> All that black shadowing
At least we know they won't be holding back on the gore, it'll just be censored for the TV version.
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Y'know, I was thinking of picking this VN up if the anime seemed interesting, and to be honest this adaptation is the worst possible thing they could have made for people like me. Aside from Michiru's part, all the rest of the parts seem like they adapted the climax and that's it. So they skip all the background stuff that makes the climax significant, and then spoil you on the twist anyway. This anime is like someone screaming "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE" for me. Which sucks, since I've heard a lot of good words about the VN.
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>>117023305
What are you dumb? Angelic Howl is getting 3 to 4 fucking episodes. Its going to be getting the best adaptation out of any of the routes. That was just there as a teaser for whats to come.
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>>117023684
>since I've heard a lot of good words about the VN

whoever said that was lying. It's mediocre at best
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>>117023684
Just read it for the Common Route.
The rest is shit.
It's really not worth your time anywhere else. Just drop it before you get into a route.
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>>117023613
woah there buddy i'm sorry your favorite girl got a shit adaptation
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>>117023702
>Angelic Howl is getting 3 to 4 fucking episodes.

I wish I could be as naive as you.
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>>117023832
Are you really this dumb? They confirmed it was weeks ago. Thats why Sachi and Yumiko's routes were both only one episode. Was so that Angelic Howl could be 3 to 4. Please learn to look into things before spouting bullshit.
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>>117023649
Does this mean they are actually going to go full on hard mode with Angelic Howl and show them falling apart?
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>>117023943
80 minutes of nothing happening.

Can't wait.
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>>117024027
>nothing happening
every minute with Kazuki is worth it
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>>117024027
>nothing happening in Angelic Howl
>being this autistic
Im sorry your favorite girl's route isnt going to get as much screen time anon. It must be rough.
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>>117023372

Length doesn't bother me in the slightest so long as it's actually good. I've read nearly every translated VN that's interested me, it's not a hobby for people who are impatient. Its just when something is long and boring AND you know how it's already going to end that it becomes a slog. Trying to invest you in characters who you know will die is a cheap way of doing drama unless it's what the entire story is about.
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>>117024169
Amane is so sexual, why does she have such a shit character?
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>>117023684

>watching a VN adaption before you've read the source material

You can get away with this sometimes for certain manga or LNs, but VN adaptions always cut too much. You should know this.
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>>117017359
All Japanese bus and truck drivers are secretly shinigami.

So when orders come down on top that someone needs to get ran down they all engage stealth mode.
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>>117024169
All the girls are shit, so I don't care.

And yes, nothing happening in Angelic Howl, how stupid are you?
It's literally just kids starving, something almost happenings, then everyone is too dead to move, than LOL CANIBALISM then Amane escapes.

Totally worth the 4 episodes.
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>Makina is getting 2+ episodes
>the shit girls all get 1 episode route
So Makina really was top tier.
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>>117024015
If they did that, it'd redeem this entire adaptation.
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>>117024469
And the endless eight was the same thing eight times and it gets lauded as the best part of Haruhi
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>>117024516
The endless eight was needed.
Your logic is without merit.
Angelic Howl is still nothing.
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Well yet again that was disappointing, though at least it wasn't a bad as Yumiko's. They still left out the important parts so the letter scene lost all the emotional impact it had.

Also I wish they'd stop including stupid shit (Yumiko's "suicide" and Sachi manufacturing explosives).
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At least they covered the main plot points

Oh well, 2 episodes of Makina and then Angelic Howl with some Amane thrown in to appease those who care
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>>117025207
>main plot points
They missed a huge one. The reason why Sachi would do everyone's requests to the T.

She said she had to be a good girl, but why does she need to be a good girl and why is that related to her devotion to the requests?
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>>117021186
Did she eat a dick?
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ep 3 > ep 1 > ep 2 > ep 5 > ep 6 > ep 4
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>>117025764
>ep 3 > ep 1 > ep 2 > ep 5 > ep 6=ep7 > ep 4
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>>117024516
>it gets lauded as the best part of Haruhi
Only trolls and fucking retards would say that.

The only thing Endless Eight did, aside from piss off everybody for 2 months, was it kind of put you into Yukis shoes so you could better understand her motivations in the movie.
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>>117024469
Your just assmad that your favorite girl isnt getting 3+ episodes devoted to her route. Stay mad faggot.
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>>117025764
ep3 > all
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>>117023199
>Those carrots
The PTSD is real.
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Yumiko = Sachi > Michuru > Makina > Amane
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is this the VN route rank ?
red > brown > yellow > blue > pink
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>>117026441
Is that Kazuki next to all of those corpses? Also, I believe we can expect them to go all out with the gore in Angelic Howl if the teaser for it is any indicator
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Angelic Howl will only get a fifteen minute flashback, mark my words.
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>>117026761
I'd have a rage induced aneurysm

It's the only good thing about Amane's route, and without the sex her adaptation would be severely lacking
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>>117026761
>3+ episodes for a route thats 80% flashback
>15 minute flashback
Are you stupid? Amanes route is literally nothing but her flashback and sex. Theres no way they would save that many episodes for just that.
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>>117026844
>>117026851
Either way we're getting 48+ minutes of absolutely nothing.
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>>117025726
>Hasn't read Angelic Howl
>Mocking best event
I really hope you get run over by a drunk driver
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was Sachi's route in the VN also a blatant copy of Clannad Kotomi's arc?
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>>117023613
>The Yumiko anime original route was needed and was actually better then the beyond trash route she had in the vn.
k.
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>>117027035
Wat
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>>117023702
>Its going to be getting the best adaptation out of any of the routes.
Let´s just hope they make it somewhat bearable, since i can´t press ctrl while watching anime
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>>117023684
Play it for Rakuen and Meikyuu(Only Yuuji´s past), Kajitsu´s routes were okay, i prefer the afters on meikyuu tough.
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>>117027078
>replying to an autist
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>>117027078
>>117027336
>Actually liking the route that is universally agreed on as being the single worst one in the vn
>The writer of the route was fired
>Having this much shit taste
Whats it like having this bad of taste?
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>>117027143
let's see. Retard childhood friend that wants to make MC remember her and her parents died in an accident thus she became retard.
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>>117025356
Being a good girl = being obedient. Stuck in the mindset of a small child, one whose behavior as a "bad girl" lead to the deaths of her parents and induced the trauma. A simple enough explanation for those just watching the anime, and for people who want something more in-depth they can read her route in the VN.
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>>117026900
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>>117027648
"And then everyone but me died." - Angelic Howl in a nutshell
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>>117027485
> >The writer of the route was fired
Then what about >>117008824?
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Someone can tell me why people are allowed driver's licenses in Japan?
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>>117027777
Car drivers aren't the issue, it's truck drivers.
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>>117027561
Except Kotomi isnt a retard? Shes extremely smart. She also didnt watch her family die in front of her. She also wasnt reduced to a broken robot that does what any tells her to because she cant say no. What your saying right now is like trying to say that any plot that involves a characters parents dying and being childhood friend character makes them a copy of Clannad. Just how autistic are you?
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>>117027888
>Kotomi isnt a retard

Stopped reading right here.
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>>117009849
Jesus you're right
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>>117027941
>Kotomi isnt a retard
>Stopped reading right there
Fucking christ who let you on to a computer? People with such advanced forms of autism like you should not be allowed anywhere near a computer.
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>>117009849
This episode had Sachi ass and bloomers though.
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Who is the stupid fucking Japo that made the decision to fit in all the routes in a 13 episodes series?
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>>117021377
My friend told me killing her would be a good end, so I did the opposite for the bad end first, legitimately thought that was a bad end.

> mfw trashy yuuji
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>>117021377
I did? It seemed like the obvious choice, I thought Yuuji would die anyway if he didnt shoot her, he was in too deep.
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>>117028394
do you know how real world works? 1 million yen for 1 cour series is the norm now
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>>117029605
>1 million
100 million
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>>117029553
Need a webm of the twitching fingers.
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>>117029553
He strikes when you least expect it.
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>>117029885
Same VA as Yuuji
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why is yumiko still in this show? didnt she fake her death? whats the point of takbir allah akubar if she still lives at the fucking school.
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>>117030159
She faked her death so she could live at school forever.
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>>116995319
>that much pee so fast

holy shit
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>>117031148
All that stress, mang.
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>>116995319
she wants the D
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>>116996594
season 2 should be confirmed. i heard the sales are pretty good
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>>117029553
>>117029767
>>117029885

>>117019822
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>>116999509
could have been amazing if it had more episodes though
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>>117019822
topkek
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>>117017359
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmYrWXhFf4c
It happens a lot.
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>>117025994
How can I have a favorite girl if I don't like a single girl?
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>>117029885
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>>117029605
What does that got to do with me asking which person approved of trying to cram 5 routes in a 13 episode series?
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>>117031917
>no Spinzaku to knock her out

God damn it anon.
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>>117009308

It'll probably be 50% original. They can't have them fuck off to the US like in the VN else it shuts out Amane's part
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Wouldn't everyone be able to hear the sex in the dorms? Is that ever brought up?

Also Sachi is the best, no seriously.
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I wanna browse through these threads but I've only read through two routes, fucking shit, I should've listened when people we're just starting to read this
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>>117032713
>Wouldn't everyone be able to hear the sex in the dorms?
Yes, but they're all secretly masturbating to the sounds.
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>>117032713
Yes. Every single thrust they can pretty much feel too.

Of course no one says anything
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>>117032713
Everyone loves it and the juice doesn't care. So it works out.
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>>117032713
>Is that ever brought up?

I know that Amane checks on Mitcher because she hears her and Yuuji boning. I forget if anything similar happens.
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>>117010278
Amane's route is the most important and it has the fucking survivor flashback which is the peak of the entire VN.
>>117010214
Now everyone will get to see why Makina can't function as a main character.
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>>117032670
Will we at least get Makina operating operationally?
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>>117032992
Wait, that was a stupid question. Both the OP and ED show that we will.
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>>117032914
>the most important

Honestly Makina's is more important then her's. Yes, Amane's route lets us know what kind of person Kazuki is, but Makina delves more into Yuuji's upbringing and just how much of a fucked up person he really is, and how much fucked up shit he went through to become that way.

Really all of the routes are important in their own way due to touching on certain parts of Yuuji's past.
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>>117022089

How's clannad
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>>117032277
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>>117033441
It's even funnier now that I get to see it animated. It's too bad we won't get o see her get hit by the car int he exact same spot.
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>>117027715

>everyone but me died

First thread, huh?
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>>117033614
It's not like Amane was aware of Kazuki's survival at that point in time.
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>>117033614
Amane doesn't know that Kazuki survived until Rakuen.
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>>117029553
"You're going to have to run and play, Sachi. Mom and Dad are feeling a bit run down.
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>>117032896
Amane killed my boner during that scene. Just when things are about to get good, she justs "knock knock, Michiru?"
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>>117034146

That's kinda what happens when people knock on the door mid coitus
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Silly japanese middleweight vehicles.

The fuck is the regulation for a commercial truck/bus license in Japan?

Why are they always going 60 on a street full of stoplight intersections populated by pedestrians?

Who drives these things, Satan?

Why do they always stop and smile in the middle of a crosswalk?
Why don't they train their children to...
fuck I'm done
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HOW DO I FUCK THIS GIRL?
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>>117034429
>Girl
More like ancient fossil.
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>>117034429

You don't canonically
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>>117034429
Not until Meikyuu and Rakuen, Only then will everyone get a taste of The Juice.
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>>117033683
She does learn of it in the bad end of her route, but she doesn't last much longer after that
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>>117035127
Well yeah. The bad end is obviously non-canon.
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>>117034429
By playing Meikyuu
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>>117035166
I do wish it was though

What could go wrong with having Juicy even more fucked up?
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Wait, so does this have retard girl sex like, Key heroine level?? I might want to play the VN if that's the case.
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>>117035315

Well, Makina and Michiru are pretty fucking retarted
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>>117035315
Mitcher is pretty retarded, everyone else has problems

Amane too, even if she appears to be a garden variety slut at first
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>>117035315
Does this answer your question?
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Man this adaption is fucking helarious
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Was saving Sachi's route for last because best girl but this thread pretty much just spoiled everything for me. I don't know why I do this to myself.
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>>117035737
It's still worth going through. Sachi becomes even more best in it.
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>>117035737
I don't know what you expected.