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OTAKU PANDERING

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What's going on this year?

Why have MCs become so alpha all of a sudden? How do they achieve impossible shit with no effort and attract girls in a way that makes your other harem look average? Is the industry in that desperate a situation?

I actually preferred it when they were beta - it's spooky
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It's become even more unrealistic and escapist

Plot armour doesn't begin to describe it
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>>116970083
Why not?

You still have plenty of beta MCs that you love.
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>acts not like a total retard around girls
>WOAH SO ALPHA
That's pretty normal behaviour for a average guy nowadays, you know.
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Contrary to OP, I actually prefer well written characters, which neither the beta MCs or those supposedly alpha MCs are.
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>>116970083
Great, i hate spineless shitty MCs.
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>>116970083
Now if only they can separate confident competent mc from obnoxious gary stu traits. Kanye is a good example of how it should be done (another is Tooru from Chaika).
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>>116970083
Finally I can self-insert.
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Sure is better than blank slate MCs
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>>116970159
But they're all 'you're the best onee-sama', it's all one big eroge now

Hayao Miyazaki must be spinning in his grave
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>>116970083
They're almost the same character, design-wise.
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I like the guy Trinity Seven
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>2014
>not self-inserting
>not escaping realtiy
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>>116970264
Too bad they keep throwing Kanye into typical harem situations.
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>>116970138
>motivated
>capable of setting and achieving goals
>not entirely unattractive
>maintains healthy physique
>reasonably intelligent
>socially confidant
>leadership skills
>can interact with the opposite sex

>unrealistic
>escapist

lel
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as a guy who isn't a total faggot, i prefer my escapism to be a step-up from my life, rather than a step-down.

what's the point of being surrounded by women if you're so dense/awkward you might as well be surrounded by men
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>>116970083
>self insert as Tats
That's so wrong on many level, you can't self insert as him no matter how hard you try, just enjoy and wet yourself yelling Onii-sama.
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>>116970362
They're all like that

Brown hair, covering the forehead, same expressions, personality, etc.

Somehow they figured this is the best way to market
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>>116970083
Given a choice beteween a spineless betafag and a impossibly perfect alphafag, I would unquestionably pick alphafag every time without fail
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>>116970083
>I actually preferred it when they were beta - it's spooky
Fuck you OP.
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I don't have a problem with alpha MCs at all, in fact they are better than the conventional beta if done right. However, Japan has this thing that either stoild, spineless placeholders like Tatsuya or asswipes bereft of any distingushable qualities like Kanie are the only tropes that qualify as alpha.
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>>116970292
Yeah but that's because they're shallow one-dimensional characters who fall for a guy because he compliments them.
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>>116970083
>Kanye
>Alpha
Yeah, no. Remember when he blushed seeing Sento in pirate outfit?
That's not alpha at all.
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>>116970562
It would take a seriously neutered man to not blush at sento wearing practically nothing.
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>>116970613
He should have just said she looks hot as fuck instead of turning and blushing.
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>>116970562
There's a hell of a lot more to being Alpha than being a lady killer.
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>>116970677
He's doing his best to remain professional.
No relationships in the workplace and all that jazz.
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>>116970434
Depends on the story.

Eva and Mirai Nikki need Betas as the MCs or the shows wouldn't work at all.
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All natural alphas deserve to die.
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>>116970677
That's really something a douchebag would do. Hell there is nothing wrong with looking away.

Maybe i'm a prude.
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>Before
>Beta MCs galore
HOW OUTRAGEOUS, THIS IS PANDERING FOR ALL THOSE BETA AS FUCK OTAKU!

>After
>More and more alpha MCs
HOW OUTRAGEOUS, THIS IS OTAKU PANDERING!

Make up your fucking mind.
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>>116970761
I hated Shinji so fucking much and the Mirai Nikki faggot ruined the show for me. So no.
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>>116970761
If your story absolutely must rely upon the main character spending vast amounts of time in brooding indecision your story is awful and so are you.
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>>116970677
Are you 12?
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>>116970879
No, why?
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>>116970083
go watch bahamut
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>>116970940
So you're just mentally 12? Poor thing.
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We're missing the real swager from this season.
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>>116970857
How about we have actual well written characters instead of one dimensional stick figures whose personalities can be solely defined by "alpha" or "beta"?
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>>116970940
That's something I'd expect from a 12 year old in youtube comments. Probably followed by a "ID FUGG HER SO H4RD WHY IS KANYE WEST SUCH A FAG? XD"
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>>116970964
I don't see how's complimenting a girl makes me 12. Care to elaborate?
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>>116971025
So telling a girl she looks good is being 12 years old?
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>>116970987
>slut
>can't do nothing alone
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>>116970083
Self insert power fantasies for neckbeards who then get mad when reality doesn't work like that and become butthurt fedora wearing neckbeards.
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>>116971034
That isn't a compliment you autist. It's way over the line, unless it's your fucking girlfriend.
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>>116970083
>kanye is alpha
u stupid or what anon
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Yeah, I preferred it when they were beta also, it helped me self-insert easier.
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>>116971034
>"AYO GURL YOU HOT AS FUCK"
>complimenting
Though to be fair if he actually was Kanye West that is what he'd say.
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>>116970083

What the shit are you even talking about? What MC's?

All-girl anime are completely dominating the industry. Male leads no longer matter. At all.

Mahouka sold 12k. Which is okay but not even close to something like GuP. Not even mentioning LL or Madoka. Amagi will be very lucky to sell 8k.

And they are still doing insanely good compared to average LN adaptation or harem anime with male leads.

It's over. Male leads are finished.
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>>116971094
This is what you posted:
>He should have just said she looks hot as fuck instead of turning and blushing.
If you don't understand why this post is what people expect from a 12 year old, I can't help you.
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Tatsuya doesn't try to be anything. He just exists.

Kanye will fall apart at the slightest criticism harder than Sensei from Barakamon.
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>>116971019
You will just lump them into the same categories anyway. The use of those words reflect more on /a/ than the actual characters.
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>>116971224
lowqualitybait.jpg
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>>116970380
>Sento likes him
>OH MY GAWD GUYS, IT'S A HAREM
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>>116971353

It's 100% true.
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Those shows are garbage, though.

How can you expect good writing? Just turn your brain off and have fun.
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Whilst we're here

Post best girls of their respective series
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>>116971393
Sure.
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>>116970380

They really don't. One, at best two girls feel anything for him. That's not a harem. That's a triangle at best.
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>>116971138
Not really, normal people would just laugh it off a be ok with this, nothing over the line here
>>116971227
I posted this because he was called alpha, and that's exactly what whould you expect from the one.
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>achieve impossible shit with no effort and attract girls in a way that makes your other harem look average
Finally, main characters I can relate to.
Feels good not having to watch losers anymore.
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>>116971430

Look at all the top selling anime in recent years and tell me it's not true.
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>>116970083
first, kayne is not alpha. he's just not lame. second, overpowered mcs are far better than whiny betas.
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>thinking this is a new thing

Though really it's nice to see more cases where the MC isn't some beta that is oblivious to all the girls that want his dick. I wish we'd see more of this It's more relatable to me I have a fucking massive ego.
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>>116971503

Tats is not just overpowered. He's a boring Gary Stu. He never faces any real opposition.

This is why Mahouka novels are selling worse and worse now. People got bored of this shit.
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>>116971422
Lelouch is that you? You forgot your trips again
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>>116971499
All female cast.
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>>116970083
everbody is going to love this alpha MC, but in a couple of years, all in /a/ will hate them
>they are to perfect
>they just curb stomp everthing
>boring fights

THE ERA OF MARY SUE IS COMING.
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>>116971597
>Love Live
every time.
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>>116971466
>this is what fedorafags actually think
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Seriously now, how many popular and well selling anime had "beta" leads?

EVA did. But it was made 15 years ago in the middle of the greatest depression Japan faced since WW2. This is why they liked a pathetic guy who fails at life lead.

Other than that, what else? Shows with those beta leads almost always fail horribly.
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>>116970761
>Mirai Nikki
It was needed to sell Yuno as a psychotic stalker girlfriend for losers. Might as well not even show he wasn't so shit in another timeline.
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>>116970083
>Kanye West
>Not one of the best MCs to be spawned from Nipponland
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>>116971385
>>116971444
>all the girls in swimsuits dancing in front of him
>all the girls in scantily clad pirate costumes
Maybe it's just fanservice for the viewer. but he still gets in really typical situations. The extent of his "narcissism" is
>"I am the best!"
>Sento shoots him
>laughter ensues
They could have done something really interesting with his character, but he never gets into any serious consequences for his flaws. It's just a gag.
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>>116971597
>2009
>2004

Sure is recent. SEED was 12 years ago.
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>>116971034
>He should have just said she looks hot as fuck
>complimenting
This is why you'll never get into a relationship, Anon.
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>>116970083
Kanie is a good MC. Tats is just too OP and is boring.
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>>116971597
And the best selling has a male lead

>implying it doesn't have anything to do with the distribution company and promotion
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>>116971737
His narcissism is just a form of escapism.
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Say what you will but after the endless march of MC's who can't get through any interaction with a girl without stuttering, it's good to see leads who can actually interact with other people, not even just women, without missing five obvious hints.

Onii-sama is overpowered, but he was also designed to be basically a living weapon. It's not like the series is anything other than him wrecking shop anyway

Kayne is an ego-maniac, doesn't mean he's good with women. In the first (or second episode, I don't remember) Sento talks about how he turns everyone off with his dickishness. But who cares, he gets shit done his own way, emphasis on getting shit done, not waiting for it to be force fed to him through some convoluted hijinks

Arata is meh, he's not hopeless but without his harem he's nothing

tl;dr 'Beta' MC's get old real fast 'Alpha' MC's can at least take the show somewhere
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>>116970083

>I actually preferred it when they were beta - it's spooky

I don't like Onii-sama, but the park guy is perfectly fine. But I fucking hate wimpy beta characters, they're even worse than those gary stus.
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>>116971790

It also has a completely female dominated cast and the main guy is a punching bag for girls. Not to mention it was 5 years ago.
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>>116970083
>Kanie
>achieve impossible shit with no effort
He is looking all the park's files everyday you doofus.
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>>116971781
I am, though, and you? Not everyone just treat girls like they're some kind of royalty.
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>>116971874
I know that feel anon. It's like watching those fucking Shota ass faggots in hentai. Pisses me off so much I always get happy when they get NTR'd.
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>>116970083
What's wrong, OP? Is it too hard to self insert to someone who's not a total loser?
>>116970677
There's a line between being alpha and being an insensitive asshole
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>>116971597

You do know disc sales don't even mean much for those top series right? Gundam is 30 years old and makes around 600 million $ a year thanks to toy sales.

Madoka and Love Live are giant franchises now too. Madoka made over 400 million $ with merch sales alone in just 2 years. LL is also big and making tons of money with games.

Monogatari and F/Z are not even in the same league. Not to mention they are adaptations. Madoka and LL are new franchises. And the next giant new franchise is Kancolle. Also all-girl.
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>>116972001

There's no better way to make me mad than having some male japanese seiyuu shouting ''waaaah! Indirectu kissu?!". I'd rather they drop the guys altogether and make it full on yuri instead of inserting some horrible harem lead that no man will ever respect.
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>>116970264
>liking kyoanus Rec.
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>>116970562
He blushed after he told her that he counted on her. That's also why Sento tries to press him a bit.
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>>116971974
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.
*That's why you'll never get into a relationship with anyone worth respecting.
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>>116972181
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS ME COMPLETELY! MARRY ME ANON!
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>>116971597
>>116972132
Fuck off you two, anime with all female cast and with male mc always will be there to you guys hate.
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>>116970948
>mfw time I fucking here this guy's VA
He makes a good job at that.
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>>116972378
Thank for your worthless opinion, don't forget to buy flowers and doing whatever the girl worth repecting tells you to on your next date.
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>>116972107
No, they ARE total losers - that's the problem.
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>>116972587
please elaborate
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>>116971974
>>116972378
>>116972546
>>>/r9k/
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>>116972587
what? no they aren't
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>>116970083
Are you actually watching AmaBuri or are did you just see an image of Kanye in /a/ and though he looked so alpa, so you assumed he is?

Also everyone, please sage your posts.
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>>116971737
They were only "dancing in front of him" because he's their boss and he ordered them to in a laughably desperate bid to attract customers.
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>>116972624
Only /r9k/ would care abput this alpha/beta bullshit anyway.
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YOU DARE INSULT ONII SAMA INFIDEL?
OFF WITH HIS HEAD
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Tatsuya is the alpha and omega though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFjWjoplZmw
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>>116972686
Not true /fit/, /v/, /b/, /soc/ etc would also care about this
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>>116970083
I still waiting to Kanye burn down a stadium to evaluate him.
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